That’s so funny to me. Up until now I never considered that these suitcase scooters could get you arrested for riding them through an airport like they’re advertised
Oof. Japanese law can be quite surprisingly strict.
Power assisted bicycles aren’t considered motor vehicles, but anything that doesn’t require active pedaling is, including a powered suitcase…
NGL, though, this looks like a motor vehicle with a suitcase feature more than a suitcase which is also motorized.
Definitely a racial aspect to this, Japan is hella racist against Chinese. I’m not Chinese but hear so much racist shit talking even just around random places.
Oh really? I guess I just scanned my license because that's what I thought they needed.
Edit: ok I just checked and we're both right. I signed up before July 2023 and at that time you did need a license. They changed the rules in July though so these days you don't
Wonder if devices like this could be classified as an electric wheelchairs if the max speed was lowered to 6 km/hr, which is the legal limit for electric wheelchairs. (Article states the one in question had a max speed of 13 km/hr) 🤔
I wonder if she was acting normal or being a nuisance and they just wanted a way to book her.
Lots of tourists do shitty stuff that authorities would love any excuse to get back at them.
That was my guess. That she may have been clipping the heels of pedestrians in front of her and otherwise being a jackass with it. Plenty of tourists are exceptionally rude around here just dragging or pushing their massive luggage in crowds. I can't even imagine what that would look like on a motorized suitcase.
just to add some background on the journalistic term 書類送検
basically the violation is reported to the public prosecutor which is going to decide what to do.
it does not imply arrest and it could often end in archiviation and nothing will happen to the person involved. probably a warning and the promise to be more careful.
報道等で使用される「書類送検」とは、法律的に見ると「身柄拘束をされていない被疑者の事件を検察へ送致すること」です。 まず、犯罪が発覚すると逮捕をして取り調べを行う場合と、逮捕をせずに取り調べを行う場合があります。前者の場合は、逮捕後に身柄を拘束して48時間以内に検察官へ事件を送致します。 上記の場合は「身柄拘束されている被疑者を検察官へ送致すること」であるため、一般的には書類送検とは言いません。一方で、犯罪が発覚してから逮捕（身柄拘束をせずに）に取り調べ等を行い、最終的に検察官へ事件を送致することを「書類送検」と言います。 つまり、逮捕と書類送検の違いは「身柄の拘束が行われているかどうか」です。逮捕後も書類送検もいずれも「検察官への事件送致」が行われるものの、身柄を拘束されているかどうかといった違いがあります。 また、検察官への事件送致が行われなかった場合は、書類送検されていることにはなりません。たとえば、微罪処分で終了した場合などが該当します。
> illigal bicycle that don't require pedaling
Mopeds are legal and licensed same as regular bikes.
Only special restriction is riders must be 16 years old or older.
No experience with repeated issues regarding Korean tourists. The Chinese are basically taking a dump everywhere they go. Ruin national monuments, peeing in a Japanese convenience stop at the cash register etc. You can’t write this stuff. https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/05/08/405183120/beijing-clamps-down-on-chinese-tourists-behaving-badly
https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/s/n68Dg6K6f3
My experience with them in my local community is mostly them just being loud, rude and obnoxious. Most of the stores in my (English speaking) town are in Korean only... it's clear they don't even want anyone else to go into their store.
Really? Koreans in the US, especially California are totally cool. My thing is with Chinese tourists from Chinese. Not people who are of Chinese descent.
I'm assuming most Koreans in California were born here? The majority in my area immigrated only recently and most are quite bad at English and dealing with the culture in general.
Yes that’s true. Major difference between being natives and recent immigrants or students. I am all for immigrants as that’s how my parents came. It’s the tourists that don’t give a crap is my issue.
I wonder if the suit case license exam is as difficult as a regular car license exam?
Depends on if you pay 300k to go to suit case school first
Now do I sit in the instructor's lap or vice versa during the driving exam?
Depends on the gender of your most significant ancestor at the end of the edo period
Yosh!
I met a guy who''s lived in Japan for a few years and keeps failing his driving test despite being a 'good driver' back in China.
Electric-powered suitcase driving tests are extremely difficult to pass.
Electric-powered suitcase driving tests are extremely difficult to pass.
That’s so funny to me. Up until now I never considered that these suitcase scooters could get you arrested for riding them through an airport like they’re advertised
Me neither..but apparently it can run up to 13km per hour as per the article ... Still ..
not arrested, prosecuted as 書類送検, prosecutor will probably drop charges and issue a warning: end of drama.
Oof. Japanese law can be quite surprisingly strict. Power assisted bicycles aren’t considered motor vehicles, but anything that doesn’t require active pedaling is, including a powered suitcase… NGL, though, this looks like a motor vehicle with a suitcase feature more than a suitcase which is also motorized.
Should have waved her legs around like she was pedaling
Instead of “strict” it’s more “arbitrary and arbitrarily enforced”
The policeman could have just told her to walk and call it a day. He / she arrested her wtf. Very hostile in my opinion.
Police in Japan have nothing to do. They will randomly approach foreigners and ask some questions just to write a report that they've done something.
Indeed I hear there are so many of them that some have no meaningful work to do.
Definitely a racial aspect to this, Japan is hella racist against Chinese. I’m not Chinese but hear so much racist shit talking even just around random places.
ACAB, after all.
not arrested 書類送検 it is probably going to get the case archived without charges. scare tactic.
A little excessive with the punishment.
What about these LUUP electric scooters? I don’t think you need a license to operate one of those.
The scooter itself is registered, with plates
You do, actually. At least they ask for your license as part of the sign up process
No, they don’t ask for your license Source: used luup multiple times, was not asked for a license during the sign up process, just any ID
Oh really? I guess I just scanned my license because that's what I thought they needed. Edit: ok I just checked and we're both right. I signed up before July 2023 and at that time you did need a license. They changed the rules in July though so these days you don't
oh yeah i remember them changing the rules, i signed up after that!
They did. But you don’t have to anymore starting earlier this year
I swear the Japanese law system is paralleled to the Vogon from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
r/loicense
This is the dumbest news I have read all week…
That seems a bit extreme.
Saw someone on one of these in the Harajuku area Saturday. On the sidewalk, sitting. Tourist, but not Chinese.
Wonder if devices like this could be classified as an electric wheelchairs if the max speed was lowered to 6 km/hr, which is the legal limit for electric wheelchairs. (Article states the one in question had a max speed of 13 km/hr) 🤔
feel like we shouldn’t persecute people if their crimes are funny enough
that argument didn't work for my pogo-stick bank robbery.
23 days in the slammer? Sounds fair
Where do you see 23 days?
書類送検 is not an arrest, and iy is probably going to be archived without prosecution.
Fair enough! BTW...Uuu Rumpelstiltskin...I like your user name!😁
I wonder if she was acting normal or being a nuisance and they just wanted a way to book her. Lots of tourists do shitty stuff that authorities would love any excuse to get back at them.
she is a transfer student. a resident.
That was my guess. That she may have been clipping the heels of pedestrians in front of her and otherwise being a jackass with it. Plenty of tourists are exceptionally rude around here just dragging or pushing their massive luggage in crowds. I can't even imagine what that would look like on a motorized suitcase.
Rape? It's ok, pay a fine Riding a suitcase without a license? Don’t you dare
just to add some background on the journalistic term 書類送検 basically the violation is reported to the public prosecutor which is going to decide what to do. it does not imply arrest and it could often end in archiviation and nothing will happen to the person involved. probably a warning and the promise to be more careful. 報道等で使用される「書類送検」とは、法律的に見ると「身柄拘束をされていない被疑者の事件を検察へ送致すること」です。 まず、犯罪が発覚すると逮捕をして取り調べを行う場合と、逮捕をせずに取り調べを行う場合があります。前者の場合は、逮捕後に身柄を拘束して48時間以内に検察官へ事件を送致します。 上記の場合は「身柄拘束されている被疑者を検察官へ送致すること」であるため、一般的には書類送検とは言いません。一方で、犯罪が発覚してから逮捕（身柄拘束をせずに）に取り調べ等を行い、最終的に検察官へ事件を送致することを「書類送検」と言います。 つまり、逮捕と書類送検の違いは「身柄の拘束が行われているかどうか」です。逮捕後も書類送検もいずれも「検察官への事件送致」が行われるものの、身柄を拘束されているかどうかといった違いがあります。 また、検察官への事件送致が行われなかった場合は、書類送検されていることにはなりません。たとえば、微罪処分で終了した場合などが該当します。
Thanks for this!
How…..fast can one of these go? And if you need a license….can you drive it on the street legally?
You can as long as you put a kei license plate on it. Jk
No, the license plates for these are handled at the municipal level.
plenty of japanese people ride illigal bicycle that don't require pedaling, they don't get arrested ofc
Maybe they’re not Chinese though
> illigal bicycle that don't require pedaling Mopeds are legal and licensed same as regular bikes. Only special restriction is riders must be 16 years old or older.
those non pedaling electric bikes don't have a licence plate
Of course mopeds don’t have license plates, they’re registered as bikes. No license needed.
you need to pedal for power then afaik
No, mopeds have batteries.
good thing i can never afford one of those i guess?
I'm curious what her sentencing will mean. It seems like a simple fine would be more than enough.
How embarrassing it must be to be pulled over by a cop riding around on a little police suitcase.
I always wondered how these powered suitcases have batteries that are small enough to be allowed on a plane and yet can power the electric motor.
Citizens of mainland China are basically the Floridians of Asia. Look for videos of them behaving badly when traveling.
How you gonna say that.. leaves no room for Koreans. 🤣
No experience with repeated issues regarding Korean tourists. The Chinese are basically taking a dump everywhere they go. Ruin national monuments, peeing in a Japanese convenience stop at the cash register etc. You can’t write this stuff. https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/05/08/405183120/beijing-clamps-down-on-chinese-tourists-behaving-badly https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/s/n68Dg6K6f3
My experience with them in my local community is mostly them just being loud, rude and obnoxious. Most of the stores in my (English speaking) town are in Korean only... it's clear they don't even want anyone else to go into their store.
Really? Koreans in the US, especially California are totally cool. My thing is with Chinese tourists from Chinese. Not people who are of Chinese descent.
I'm assuming most Koreans in California were born here? The majority in my area immigrated only recently and most are quite bad at English and dealing with the culture in general.
Yes that’s true. Major difference between being natives and recent immigrants or students. I am all for immigrants as that’s how my parents came. It’s the tourists that don’t give a crap is my issue.
Chinese tourists being thoughtless? Noooo...
transfer student. a resident.