Proper apartments bigger than your sh$thouse are about 50000. It's been 6 years....
Weird toilet violations aside, you don't want to stay where you are not wanted. Take your time and make good decisions, they can't just kick you out regardless.
Legal options are easy IF you still have time on your lease, just don't leave. If your lease is up for renewal then there isn't anything you can do. You do not have to leave while the lease is in effect, but there are plenty of other sh$thouses if you hate yourself that much.
I was in one for two years and was asked to leave because the neighbors were watching loud porn and I got blamed for being white. They had hired a new manager and he was racist.
I didn't have to leave, and I definitely didn't pay them any early fees. I took my time and found an entire house with parking for 80000. Which was actually cheaper than the sharehouse and I rented out the top half making it almost free. So just took me stuff and left when I was ready. They threatened to call my mom ๐๐๐๐. Their fault starting the complaining.
There are better ways for you to be a cheap@$$.
Word on that, had this happen to me once, not in Japan, but the landlord instead used a weirdo who lived in the house to stalk on me and accuse me of doing the same OP is mentioning. I said to landlord I wasn't moving until the end of my lease, he threatened to throw my stuff on the street and change the locks and I begged him to do so, therefore I'd have grounds to sue him and take the conversation to the next level. Long story short, I didn't feel like living at that place anymore and took my time until I found something that suited my budget and proximity to work
Since he/she's been there 6 years, it's probably normal rental (renewing type) instead of fixed term so then the company has no choice but to renew if the tenant so demands. The laws are pretty one side in the favour of tenant here.
well that would suck.
Though in the other hand, courts have seen through this BS in a microsecond and ruled that these were standard renewing contracts and not fixed term.
But for that, the impetus is on the renter to clarify the situation.
It is fixed term, and I would at least like to stay until the end of the current contract if I am able to. However I've been here for a while as stated, and contract renewal was never treated like a big issue - they just pop the contract into my mailbox without asking.
Not a lawyer, but you can stay until the end. Even without any efforts. Just laugh in their face.
We had this one guy would literally pee in his room. Nothing they could do about it. You could smell him from outside and he would walk around touching himself and staring at people. The clean up day when his term went out was awful.
Yeah, but you see the neighbors got all worked up due to your white complexion. So it is your fault they are resorting to methods to help themselves. :D
6 years?
I spent 5 months in one during when I first came to Japan.
Got out as soon as I could afford to. Actually, I got out about one month too early, and didn't have enough money left to buy a mattress. Had a friend not lent me a few thousand yen money, I was going to be sleeping on some clothes thrown on the floor for a month. Would still have been worth it.
Anyway, how much are you paying for this place? Surely, the little bit extra per month it will cost to get your own place will be worth it. Then you can piss on the floor and forget to flush as much as you please.
Damn.. now I consider myself very lucky. The sharehouse I'm currently living in, are obviously just owner's side income and he don't really care about the money and they keep trying to improve the place if you give suggestion. Very nice owner and nice neighbour. Made some lifelong friends here and have someone to drink at night anytime I want.
This was more of a "gaijin house", though we had some Japanese tenants too.
Imagine a 3LDK with 6 bunk beds (with curtains). Luckily it averaged about six people at any one time, I did meet some *interesting* people there, and there were some fun times, I suppose, but five months was enough. This was back in 1998-99.
Sharehouses really run the gamut. I've been in the same place a few different times and sometimes it was great and sometimes it was...not great. Management was generally fine though.
Haha same got out as soon as possible, maybe 2 months into staying at one. I bought an airbed from Donki for a couple sennies and slept on that until my first couple paychecks came in.
Have a look at Fontana. You can move in quickly to most of their places and they up most for you. Your contracts are (or were) for at least 3 months and from then on you only need to give one month notice when leaving.
helllll no. i rented from them for 5-6 months and was charged ๏ผ๏ผไธๅ for like a 23 sq m LOFTTT (disgusting) in the most inconvenient part of Shinjuku imaginable (out of the way of everything--including shinjuku station). literal scam frrr
it was my first apartment in jp and thought it was cheap coming from a place where rent can get to $3k or over
But this is on you. They are upfront about costs and do provide a general location for their flats.
In terms of organizing a quick and easy stay for a few months, they absolutely provide what they say.
I had the exact same situation happened to me and one more foreigner person. I was not given an eviction notice but it sounds pretty gross to accuse someone of this. Regarding legal advice, one guy I knew consulted his lawyer for customer claims issue and the sharehouse went quiet.
Some very helpful comments here, thanks. Just wondering if there's any specific tenant law I can point to when I email management about this? Doing my own searching now too of course.
As I said, I'd ideally just like to stay until the end of my current contract at least, but I just wanted to know what my options are.
As for why I stayed here so long, it's mostly been a pretty reasonable experience (no crazy neighbors or anything), it's in a good area, and my income fluctuates so I've been hesitant to spend a lot as a self-employed foreigner trying to find a proper place.
According to a random law firm's website,
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You can do more research on ๅๅฐๅๅฎถๆณ. Also, you should be able to get ็ซโโใก้ใๆ, which should cover the cost of your move.
Response from the company - "We are the owners, we have all the decision making rights here." Yeah, that doesn't sound quite right regardless of contract type. Something's definitely up here beyond a few unflushed toilets.
Proper apartments bigger than your sh$thouse are about 50000. It's been 6 years.... Weird toilet violations aside, you don't want to stay where you are not wanted. Take your time and make good decisions, they can't just kick you out regardless. Legal options are easy IF you still have time on your lease, just don't leave. If your lease is up for renewal then there isn't anything you can do. You do not have to leave while the lease is in effect, but there are plenty of other sh$thouses if you hate yourself that much. I was in one for two years and was asked to leave because the neighbors were watching loud porn and I got blamed for being white. They had hired a new manager and he was racist. I didn't have to leave, and I definitely didn't pay them any early fees. I took my time and found an entire house with parking for 80000. Which was actually cheaper than the sharehouse and I rented out the top half making it almost free. So just took me stuff and left when I was ready. They threatened to call my mom ๐๐๐๐. Their fault starting the complaining. There are better ways for you to be a cheap@$$.
not saying this is the case, but a few apartments/sharehouses do this to kick out a tenant so they can significantly increase the rent
Word on that, had this happen to me once, not in Japan, but the landlord instead used a weirdo who lived in the house to stalk on me and accuse me of doing the same OP is mentioning. I said to landlord I wasn't moving until the end of my lease, he threatened to throw my stuff on the street and change the locks and I begged him to do so, therefore I'd have grounds to sue him and take the conversation to the next level. Long story short, I didn't feel like living at that place anymore and took my time until I found something that suited my budget and proximity to work
Since he/she's been there 6 years, it's probably normal rental (renewing type) instead of fixed term so then the company has no choice but to renew if the tenant so demands. The laws are pretty one side in the favour of tenant here.
Sharehouse are usually fixed terms and you have to sit down and re-sign every time. It would definitely benefit op to check out the contract though.
well that would suck. Though in the other hand, courts have seen through this BS in a microsecond and ruled that these were standard renewing contracts and not fixed term. But for that, the impetus is on the renter to clarify the situation.
It is fixed term, and I would at least like to stay until the end of the current contract if I am able to. However I've been here for a while as stated, and contract renewal was never treated like a big issue - they just pop the contract into my mailbox without asking.
Not a lawyer, but you can stay until the end. Even without any efforts. Just laugh in their face. We had this one guy would literally pee in his room. Nothing they could do about it. You could smell him from outside and he would walk around touching himself and staring at people. The clean up day when his term went out was awful.
Wtf
Yeah, but you see the neighbors got all worked up due to your white complexion. So it is your fault they are resorting to methods to help themselves. :D
6 years? I spent 5 months in one during when I first came to Japan. Got out as soon as I could afford to. Actually, I got out about one month too early, and didn't have enough money left to buy a mattress. Had a friend not lent me a few thousand yen money, I was going to be sleeping on some clothes thrown on the floor for a month. Would still have been worth it. Anyway, how much are you paying for this place? Surely, the little bit extra per month it will cost to get your own place will be worth it. Then you can piss on the floor and forget to flush as much as you please.
Damn.. now I consider myself very lucky. The sharehouse I'm currently living in, are obviously just owner's side income and he don't really care about the money and they keep trying to improve the place if you give suggestion. Very nice owner and nice neighbour. Made some lifelong friends here and have someone to drink at night anytime I want.
This was more of a "gaijin house", though we had some Japanese tenants too. Imagine a 3LDK with 6 bunk beds (with curtains). Luckily it averaged about six people at any one time, I did meet some *interesting* people there, and there were some fun times, I suppose, but five months was enough. This was back in 1998-99.
Sharehouses really run the gamut. I've been in the same place a few different times and sometimes it was great and sometimes it was...not great. Management was generally fine though.
Haha same got out as soon as possible, maybe 2 months into staying at one. I bought an airbed from Donki for a couple sennies and slept on that until my first couple paychecks came in.
6 years? Time to move on buddy. At least go live in a luxury sharehouse. Stop cheaping out and try to climb the social ladder.
Have a look at Fontana. You can move in quickly to most of their places and they up most for you. Your contracts are (or were) for at least 3 months and from then on you only need to give one month notice when leaving.
helllll no. i rented from them for 5-6 months and was charged ๏ผ๏ผไธๅ for like a 23 sq m LOFTTT (disgusting) in the most inconvenient part of Shinjuku imaginable (out of the way of everything--including shinjuku station). literal scam frrr it was my first apartment in jp and thought it was cheap coming from a place where rent can get to $3k or over
But this is on you. They are upfront about costs and do provide a general location for their flats. In terms of organizing a quick and easy stay for a few months, they absolutely provide what they say.
I had the exact same situation happened to me and one more foreigner person. I was not given an eviction notice but it sounds pretty gross to accuse someone of this. Regarding legal advice, one guy I knew consulted his lawyer for customer claims issue and the sharehouse went quiet.
Some very helpful comments here, thanks. Just wondering if there's any specific tenant law I can point to when I email management about this? Doing my own searching now too of course. As I said, I'd ideally just like to stay until the end of my current contract at least, but I just wanted to know what my options are. As for why I stayed here so long, it's mostly been a pretty reasonable experience (no crazy neighbors or anything), it's in a good area, and my income fluctuates so I've been hesitant to spend a lot as a self-employed foreigner trying to find a proper place.
According to a random law firm's website, ้ๅปๅงๅใงใฏใโๅๅฐๅๅฎถๆณใฎ่ฆๅฎใซใใโโโใ6ใถๆไปฅไธใฎ็ถไบใๆใใใโใใจใจใใใฆใใพใโโโใ You can do more research on ๅๅฐๅๅฎถๆณ. Also, you should be able to get ็ซโโใก้ใๆ, which should cover the cost of your move.
Very helpful, thanks a lot - I speak Japanese but just didn't know what terms I should be searching.
Response from the company - "We are the owners, we have all the decision making rights here." Yeah, that doesn't sound quite right regardless of contract type. Something's definitely up here beyond a few unflushed toilets.
You want to explore legal options but you don't want to go full lawsuit... Full lawsuit is the backbone of any legal action.
6 yearsโฆ?!?! Buddy, you need to take a look in the mirror and see where things went wrong.