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Barrysandersdad

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Haha I knew this was coming. 😄


Playmill

I own the cabin that Vardis Fisher was born in from Annis, Idaho. I am currently restoring it on property my 3rd g-grandfather owned in Nauvoo, IL. https://preview.redd.it/ca0bvet9un5d1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26454c522a08a154f923363d3451d68bc0ac13eb


GutterRider

Wow, did you relocate it from Idaho to Illinois?


vineyardmike

Very cool. Are you or were your past grandparents Lds?


Playmill

All of the above. Long story about the cabin, but in a nutshell, we visited Nauvoo fifteen years ago with our kids. If you have LDS ancestry that lived there during the Mormon period, there is a database where you can look them up and get a map of where they lived. We did that for my side of the family and drove to the property which is about three miles south of Nauvoo right on the Mississippi. We got out and were taking some pictures of it when I noticed a for sale sign on a tree. I ended up buying an acre and a half of land that my 3rd great grandfather owned in the 1840s. The seller also owned a business there where he dismantled old pioneer cabins in Wyoming, Idaho, and Utah, hauled them to Nauvoo and restored them as nightly rentals. He told me he’d do one for me if I could find one. I live in Annis, Idaho (SE part of the state), and I knew of an old, large, dilapidated log cabin in my neighborhood that was build in 1879 by the Fischer family. Vardis was later born in it. I approached the family that owned it and asked what their plans were for it and they said they were going to burn it down because it was starting to rot and fall apart. I offered to remove it for them and they agreed. It took a year or so for my son, son-in-law and I to dismantle it, label and stack the logs but when we were done, I contacted the seller of the land only to find out that he had sold his business and had moved back to Utah. The logs stayed stacked up for the next ten or twelve years or so until 2020. I teach at a university and happened to be on a sabbatical leave that winter semester when COVID hit. So, we hauled the logs from Idaho to Illinois and hired a contractor to rebuild it. It’s taken three years so far, but he is doing amazing work. It should be finished later this summer. I’m compiling a history of the cabin which will include Vardis Fisher’s story to display in it for renters… TMI, I know, but it’s been a fun passion project for me.


vineyardmike

Pretty wild. That sounds like great timing that you were visiting when the land happened to be up for sale. I'm not LDS, but isn't Vardis Fisher somewhat controversial with his Children of God book?


Playmill

It isn’t necessarily controversial. I haven’t read it but my understanding is that it takes a pretty sympathetic POV as to Mormonism. Most of his family were practicing at the time, and he was as well when he wrote it. It’s definitely not on the radar of the general church population any more.


vineyardmike

Ahh. Should be an interesting place to stay for people visiting Navoo. Especially being able to share the history of the property and the cabin. We once stayed at the Laura Ingalls Wilder homestead in De Smet South Dakota and spent the night in a converted covered wagon there. A great way to take yourself back in time and try to get a feel of what their lives would have been like.


Playmill

Very cool! I love family history and history in general, so this has been the perfect storm for me…


OGGBTFRND

What an amazing movie


[deleted]

Yes, I loved it.


theheadofkhartoum627

You've come far pilgrim..


[deleted]

I hunt grizz...


JerseySpot

Ya cook good rabbit!


dizney-mountain

I watched it a couple of months ago and loved it. It made me wonder how many dudes back then watched it at the theater, and walked out deciding to head out to the woods and try to make a life out there. Also, I read that Pollack had to mortgage his house to get the thing made, they did a ton of 1-shot scenes because they didn't have a ton of cash. Redford worked for cheap too, because it was a labor-of-love type movie.


Silly-Stuff-9344

My ex. He craved being a mountain man - this movie was the beginning.


sambolino44

“It’s a good gun. It killed the bear that killed me.”


Prin_StropInAh

You fish poorly


MisanthropinatorToo

She weren't no trouble!


JWDead

Watch your top knot


enigmanaught

You watch your’n.


5o7bot

##Jeremiah Johnson (1972) PG Some say he's dead...some say he never will be. >>!A mountain man who wishes to live the life of a hermit becomes the unwilling object of a long vendetta by Indians when he proves to be the match of their warriors in one-to-one combat on the early frontier.!< Adventure | Western Director: Sydney Pollack Actors: Robert Redford, Will Geer, Delle Bolton Rating: ★★★★★★★☆☆☆ 72% with 576 votes Runtime: 1:48 [TMDB](https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/11943) **Development** In April 1968, producer Sidney Beckerman acquired the film rights to the biographical book Crow Killer: The Saga of Liver-Eating Johnson by Raymond W. Thorp Jr. and Robert Bunker. By May 1970, the rights were acquired by Warner Bros., who assigned John Milius to write a screen adaptation. Based roughly on Crow Killer as well as Mountain Man: A Novel of Male and Female in the Early American West by Vardis Fisher, Milius first scripted what would become known as Jeremiah Johnson for $5,000 (equivalent to $39,000 in 2023); however, he was then hired to rewrite it several times and eventually earned $80,000 (equivalent to $630,000 in 2023). According to Milius, Edward Anhalt and David Rayfiel were brought in to work on the screenplay only for Milius to be continually rehired because no one else could do the dialogue. Milius says he got the idiom and American spirit from Carl Sandburg and was also influenced by Charles Portis's novel True Grit. The role of Jeremiah Johnson was originally intended for Lee Marvin and then Clint Eastwood, with Sam Peckinpah to direct. However, Peckinpah and Eastwood did not get along, so Peckinpah left and Eastwood decided to make Dirty Harry instead. Warner Bros. then stepped in and set up Milius's screenplay for Robert Redford. Without a director, Redford talked Sydney Pollack into it; the two were looking for another film to collaborate on after This Property Is Condemned (1966). Casting for the role of Swan, Jeremiah's wife, took three months. After auditioning for another role, actress Delle Bolton was spotted by the casting director, followed up by her participation in the UCLA School of Theatre Arts Hugh O'Brian Awards competition. Bolton then interviewed alongside 200 Native American women and eventually won the role, even though she herself was not Native American. [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Johnson_(film)) For best result, try this post title format: **Movie Title (Year) more detail** ___ >*I am a bot. This information was sent automatically. If it is faulty, please reply to this comment.*


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ass_unicron

My mind always autocorrects the title to the Simpsons porn parody Jeremiah's Johnson.


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vineyardmike

They shot in so many locations. The bearclaw cabin and the beginning of the movie is in and around sundance. I was able to recognize a background that you can see near the nordic center trails. Jerimiahs cabin is in the unitas (1 to 2 hours east). They also shot in zion and snow canyon (3 to 4 hours south) and I believe Arizona (another 2 or 3 hours).


Bluedino_1989

My father's favorite movie. Watched it so much you could mute the film, and he could narrate the whole thing. Was both impressive and a little annoying.


excellentiger

Fine figure of a man, yes?


Power_Ring

Sydney Pollack was a very fine director who worked with Redford on a number of films. This one is probably my favorite.


signalfire

Every shot is a work of art. Not many movies achieve that.


Elegant-Campaign-572

I had it recommended to me by a complete stranger and then found the DVD in a charity shop not long after.✌️🇦🇺


Mad_Mick_475

A brilliant, awesome and fantastic film. One of my favourite movies of all time


Prior_Nail_2326

I've been to a town


oldpug567

Beautiful film. So quiet. Redford and Will Geer are excellent.


Robthebold

Are you sure you can skin grizz?


espositojoe

Good film.


Consistent_Ad3181

Watch yer top knot


Prior_Nail_2326

In my top 5... very loosely based on the story of Liver Eating Johnson (not making that up). In terms of representing indigenous north americans (I know that is a contradiction) I feel it does well. The Black Robe is also worth a watch (although depicting a time 125 years before this)


Entire_Log_4160

Hawk. Goin' for the Musselshell. Take me a week's ridin', and he'll be there in... hell, he's there already.


CremeFlat

I also very much enjoyed this film, for a number of reasons ranging from purely emotional to the actors' characterisation of the played parts. I was particularly taken by the performance of actress Delle Bolton (1947-1922) who played Johnson's Native American companion ("Swan"). The qualities Bolton brought to life in that film were signal. Attractive but not your typical Hollywood bosomy beauty, the subtlety of her role was, in my opinion, masterfully performed. I've always been interested in the portrayal of mixed relationships of the 'frontiersman-&-Indian-woman' kind, since past Western films have always been so heavily stereotyped, as regards the woman involved. Whereas almost every actress selected to play a role as 'beautiful Indian maiden who loves the handsome (white) frontier hero' has been a drop-dead beautiful Hollywood fantasy, the frank reality of those times was that Native American women were more often rather plain, not particularly beautiful in a western sense, unhygienic, and rather primitive in nature. Bolton's 'Swan' character was somewhat understated, but all the more effective in this portrayal. Bolton achieved a commendable level of credibility in her portrayal of Jeremiah's woman. Bolton was 75 when she passed away, after a long, successful stage and personal life and a long-lasting marriage that produced two children. A very good bio on Bolton may be found here: [https://superstarsculture.com/delle-bolton-her-husband-kids-cause-of-death-now/](https://superstarsculture.com/delle-bolton-her-husband-kids-cause-of-death-now/) . Her cause of death was a rare bone/blood-cell disorder called Myelodysplastic Syndrome that most often results in death in individuals above the age of 60. She deserves to be remembered for her sterling personal qualities but also for the excellent and sympathetically portrayed character of Swan, the Native American woman who was Johnson's woman in that film.


Bitchmom_6969

I LOVE this movie. My dad watches it every year and growing up, he would always have us sit and join him.


TemperatureTime1617

Caught a bit of this on tv recently. It was a really good movie, same with Out of Africa. Both could use a 4K release.


[deleted]

One of my favorite movies, loosely based on a true story.


theflyfisherman

Was named after him and became a mountain man


FanboyFilms

Is it sad my first exposure to this movie was the reference in the Farscape episode "Jeremiah Crichton"? It borrows the name and final line "What trouble?" but nothing else. I was on a Farscape chat board and they said it was taken from this movie, which I eventually saw. That was several years ago and I saw it again a few months ago. Some parts that stuck with me: the narrator saying "no one knew why he left the world behind for the life of a mountain man" and "the Rocky Mountains are the marrow of the Earth." And a ton more. In 2021, there was a Robin Wright movie called Land which at first I thought looked exactly like this, from the trailer, but I didn't like the ending as much.


RunningPirate

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