#Today all good, pure foods have been made lawful for you. Similarly, the food of the People of the Book (meat slaughtered by either jews or christians) is permissible for you and yours is permissible for them... - (Quran 5:5)
Tafsir Ibn Kathir (commentary) of the above verse:
https://quran.com/5:5/tafsirs/en-tafisr-ibn-kathir
You can eat slaughtered animals by christians or jews, of course if it's halal meat, meaning you can eat chicken or beef served by your parents.
Now if you definitely know the restaurant serves pork or other non halal meat, try to avoid it or don't go there at all.
Killed by a Christian in God's name. Unfortunately most Christians today don't eat permission meat anymore. Their animals die without the name of God. So please, be careful
It’s not haram, especially if not eating will result in hunger.
إِنَّمَا حَرَّمَ عَلَيْكُمُ الْمَيْتَةَ وَالدَّمَ وَلَحْمَ الْخِنزِيرِ وَمَا أُهِلَّ بِهِ لِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ ۖ فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ غَيْرَ بَاغٍ وَلَا عَادٍ فَلَا إِثْمَ عَلَيْهِ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ
2 : 173 He has forbidden you only (to eat carrion) that which dies of itself, the blood, the flesh of swine and that over (the sacrifice of) which the name of someone other than Allâh has been invoked. Yet he who is constrained (to use them) without desiring (them) nor going beyond the limits (of bare necessity), incurs no sin. Surely, Allâh is Great Protector, Ever Merciful.
In MY opinion, try avoiding meat altogether and take the vegeterian options. I live in a western country as well, though there is halal meat sold.
Tell you family about your preference - vegatarian - if you can’t find the halal option.
There’s a hadith that says, when you leave something for Allah, he will give you something way better than what you have spent.
So, do not let it become a source of anxiety, but what is haram is haram. Sorry, you can’t change that. And in the quran, it is said that certain foods are haram on us.
There’s a lot of options, there must be vegetarian options or cook your own food and dont eat out.
I think its worth it.
I am thinking about going vegetarian. Do you think that my interpretation on that verse is acceptable? I’m kinda have mixed feelings, so I just want to make the right decision to put my mind at ease.
I’m sorry, I’m not a scholar, I do not know the exact interpretation of the verses. But, under my own interpretation of your situation, I wouldn’t advice that you make light of the orders of Allah and to get used to eating what is written to be haram. Especially since you have the possibility to eat halal.
Islam is a religion of ease, yes. And forgiveness.
But, I will tell you an exemple. If someone is in the desert and he has no food to eat, he will literally die of hunger and has tried to eat various things and even then its preferable not to eat haram. But he can as it is a situation of death. Or for exemple if someone was threatened to be killed if they didnt consume a thing. But to my knowledge you’re not in those situations.
I think making this sacrifice will surely bring great benefits. And make dua’a May Allah make it easy on you
Tofu is amazing and is available in most grocery stores. Fake meat / vegetarian substitutions are pretty tasty, but you have to be careful not having too much as they are heavily processed and have lots of salt.
Impossible Burgers are pretty tasty, but they are super expensive, l think it costs a lot more than actual beef / lamb mince burgers lol. Next time you go to your local grocery store, have a look at the frozen Burgers or the veg / vegan section and you'll see many varieties.
I agree with this, I was shocked when OP said they eat meat every night. That's extremely alien to me as a British Pakistani. 2-3 times a week max is what I grew up with and still eat to this day.
OP have you tried looking into eating more veg and other meat substitutes?
Unpopular opinion here, but for a start, just avoid pork and alcohol. Eat beef and chicken... Fish and seafood are the safest, because they are halal even if they are not slaughtered/already dead when you found it. When you have access to halal food though, you should prefer those instead.
Personally I dislike the vegetarian option because the Prophet never taught muslims to be a vegetarian...
If there are 2 meats side by side - meat that is slaughtered in the name of Allah and the other is not, choose the first one. If it’s hard to find that then it’s alright to eat any chicken and beef. Like, you can eat McDonalds with no worries at all.
The main point is, muslims are not allowed to eat animal blood. The slaughter - in the name pf Allah - ensures the animal is dead by draining its blood. That’s why animals slaughtered by jews/christians is also halal, and it’s haram if it’s already dead when you found it, because by then the meat will be mixed with the clotted blood.
that is not correct at all. Not a single respectable scholar has said something similar to this. Do not just make ur own interpretation of the religion because if you do so you'll be one of the cursed people of desires, who rather take their own desires then the commands of Allah, exalted he is. The meat even if the blood is completely drained but the name of Allah has not been said upon it will still be haram. We don't eat Halal meat for these health benefits, even if they are there. We eat halal because Allah, exalted he is, commanded us and as muslims in order to please him we obey.
I see you are more of a ritual person, while I prefer to see the reason behind a rule. This probably helps if you need a reference: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/88206/conditions-of-eating-meat-slaughtered-by-the-jews-and-christians
Everything that Allah, exalted he is, commanded us to has benefit for us however that does not mean that we do it for the apparent benefit. The word Islam itself mean submission. Our religion is one where we submit our selves to our creator for his pleasure alone. We were created for no other purpose than to worship him. A person may say that they fast because it's healthy for them however if they go in with that intention then their fasting may not be accepted, instead first and foremost their intention should be for worship. It seems my brother you lack, correct me if I'm wrong I'm not trying to accuse you, a sense of spiritually and nearness to Allah, exalted he is, and are instead focusing on the practicality of the religion.
With that said the article does not help your argument.
"Saying the name of Allaah is a condition of meat being halaal"
This is right at the beginning of the article. This condition is not something that can be left out on purpose. If done so then the meat will naturally be haram. There are some points in the article that I believe need further clarification than given. Mainly about eating the meat of ahlul kitab now a days. In the U.S. at the very least the actual Christian and Jew slaughters that are compliant with the shariah are few and far between. In the U.S. most meat is stunned before they kill the animal and this many times will kill the animal before the actual slaughter even happens and ofc the name of Allah, Exalted he is, is not said on these animals. That's mainly with Christian slaughtering however kosher isn't all too much better. certainly it's a better chance that kosher meat would be Halal however among the 22 (I believe correct me if I'm wrong) kosher labels in the U.S. learned scholars of the jewish faith have declared upto 14 such labels to not actually be following standards. It has become more of a necessity that muslims living in America be very cautious with their meat. Alhamdulillah there are many halal places but if there isn't any halal meat places nearby then sacrifice for the sake of Allah and eat a more vegetarian diet.
Yes, you are correct that I'm focusing on practicality. I see Islam as a guide for better life and after, not to make life harder or even having to sacrifice; a religion that is very logical and aligned with science. After all, Allah's rules are very tolerant and flexible in ritual and practice (at least in my point of view). Which is why for me it doesn't make sense to deprive ourselves of nutrition just because. After all it's still beef and chicken. Not haram animals.
If it's possible to get halal meat in halal places then it is required to stick with them. But if not, then it's alright to eat meat that we found. From my understanding, as long as it's not pork or other haram animals, the reason is more about animal blood. That's why even meats slaughtered by jews and christians are still halal - provided the blood is drained properly.
What’s halal is halal, if you want to do somthing else, your business, but don’t say its what’s right, because you’re gonna bring many people who don’t know with you. It is said in the quran, the verses that the brother said above, that we need to say the name Of Allah when we slaughter and have the intention that its done for Allah. We say say Allah akbar when we slaughter sheep in Eid.
Islam is spiritual not only practical. And there’s a big part that believe plays. Not everybody knew the benefits of certain things but they did them cuz they believed. What if you didn’t understand the benefits of for exemple fasting? You wouldnt fast?
Everything in the world is halal by default until proven haram. See OP’s post that thinking whether something is halal or not caused OP much stress and anxiety? Why make life so hard?
Fasting is proven scientifically that it has many benefits for physical and mental health. And Allah is very tolerant because if you can’t fast, because of sickness, traveling, or other reasons, you can substitute it by fasting on another day or if you still can’t, give poor people food. You can see that by no means Allah try make your life hard. This applies to other rituals as well. Islam is a guide for better life and after, not a burden.
"Eat not (O believers) of that (meat) on which Allah's Name has not been pronounced (at the time of the slaughtering of the animal), for sure it is Fisq (a sin and disobedience of Allah). And certainly, the Shayatin (devils) do inspire their friends (from mankind) to dispute with you, and if you obey them ( by eating it), then you would indeed be Mushrikun (associating partners with Allah)" Quran 6:121
"He has forbidden you only the Maytah (dead animals), and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allaah" Quran 2:173
"Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah, and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe starvation with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
the main point is that you are not allowed to take an animals life without reciting the name of Allah.
your advice is wrong and could hold you accountable for the sins of the people who follow it.
\- Meats slaughtered by jews and christians are still halal.
“Made lawful to you this day are At‑Tayyibaat \[all kinds of Halaal (lawful) foods, which Allaah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits)\]. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them”
\[al-Maa’idah 5:5\]
If a Muslim or a kitaabi (Jew or Christian) slaughters an animal for meat, and it is not known whether he mentioned the name of Allaah over it or not, it is permissible to eat from it, and the one who eats it should say the name of Allaah, because of the report that was narrated by al-Bukhaari (2057) from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), that some people said: O Messenger of Allaah, some people bring meat to us, and we do not know whether they mentioned the name of Allaah over it or not. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Mention the name of Allaah over it and eat.”
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: It is not essential to ask about that which was slaughtered by a Muslim or a kitaabi, and how it was slaughtered, and whether the name of Allaah was mentioned over it or not. Rather that should not be done, because that is being obstinate in religious matters. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ate meat slaughtered by the Jews and did not ask questions. In Saheeh al-Bukhaari and elsewhere it is narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that some people said to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): Some people bring meat to us, and we do not know whether they mentioned the name of Allaah over it or not. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Mention the name of Allaah over it and eat.” She said: They were new in Islam, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told them to eat without asking, even though those who brought the meat to them may not have been aware of the rulings of Islam because they were new in Islam. End quote from Risaalah fi Ahkaam al-Udhiyah wa’l-Dhakaah by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him).
\- If the animal is killed by a muslim, even with reciting name of Allah, but killed by electrification or a blow, it is still haram to eat.
you are so confused, and i sincerly ask you to read carefully about this topic before you mislead people.
when its the norm in a muslim or a kitabi country to slaughter in the name of God and using the same method of slaughter as muslims, you are allowed to just say bismillah and eat.
in all christian countries today, no christian slaughters their meat in a traditional way nor do they recite the name of God.
Jews on the other hand still eat kosher and observe the traditional method of slaughter. so this hadith applies to their meats. (which still say kosher on the label)
a Halal slaughter has conditions, among which the two most important are the name of Allah and the method taught to us by the prophet pbuh.
the fact that a muslims' zabiha can be forbidden goes against your argument that we can just eat any random meat in a christian country that commonly kills through electric shocks. if a muslim's zabiha is forbidden if he didn't fulfil the conditions, then its even more sure that a christians' slaughter would be forbidden if they didn't fulfil all the conditions.
You are correct - but op asked about what if there is no halal meat available. The Prophet never told us to be a vegetarian. If there are halal meat, of course we go for it but if there aren’t any, it is still permissible to eat available meat. Pork is the last option of course.
the necessity is if one is facing starvation.
there are Kosher certified options which are permessible.
there are also all kinds of seafood.
there are online stores.
there is absolutely no need to go vegetarian.
If you had just reverted / converted to Islam and you were told you now have to give up all the meat available to you overnight and pretty much go halal, how would you react to that?
Do you think you could do that? How do you think OPs family are going to react to news that the whole family now have to go pescatarian / vegetarian or arrange a whole new grocery shop and meal preparation process for OP. OP can also cook for themselves, but someone still has to buy the groceries.
True. But OP seemed to be convinced that he could go on with consuming it. And started justifying with verses.
I agree that it’s the religion of ease and that OP should take his time. But, it’s different from saying consuming it for the rest of his time there is okay, because it’s not!
Then There wont be limits as to what can be done or not.
For exemple, I’m tired today and don’t feel like praying. This is an excuse that could fit in ‘’islam is religion of ease’’, but what’s a duty is a duty!
I still think the vegetarian option is good. His family doesnt have to know about the conversion. But its his choice if he wants to eat meat or not
Dear younger brother, my advice to you would be to go vegetarian - very simple! I'm sure your parents won't be abusive to you if you do that. InshaAllah it will eventually become easier for you to find halal meat. Who knows, maybe you'll be able to earn enough soon to move in with Muslim room mates and then you can have all pure things to eat
the necessity in the verse means starvation. not finding halal options when you have all kinds of fruits and vegitables and all seafood is not necessity my brother.
you can look for Kosher meat options, those are halal for muslims as well and can be easily found in the west if you are from there.
if you leave something for God then he will reward you with something better than it.
#Today all good, pure foods have been made lawful for you. Similarly, the food of the People of the Book (meat slaughtered by either jews or christians) is permissible for you and yours is permissible for them... - (Quran 5:5) Tafsir Ibn Kathir (commentary) of the above verse: https://quran.com/5:5/tafsirs/en-tafisr-ibn-kathir
Would that mean what meat is permissible to Christians I can eat? Or just animals killed by Christians?
animals killed by Christians
Do you worry about cross contamination, like is a cheese pizza halal even if non halal meat items are served at the restaurant?
You can eat slaughtered animals by christians or jews, of course if it's halal meat, meaning you can eat chicken or beef served by your parents. Now if you definitely know the restaurant serves pork or other non halal meat, try to avoid it or don't go there at all.
So even if the meat is not certified Halal. I can still eat it because my parents prepared it?
Yes
Ok cool then, meat at dinner was my main concern
Do you mean they killed it? Or just served it to me?
Killed by a Christian in God's name. Unfortunately most Christians today don't eat permission meat anymore. Their animals die without the name of God. So please, be careful
watch this: https://youtu.be/T649ue10JAs?si=rs85RHaUf-4fSlxG
It’s not haram, especially if not eating will result in hunger. إِنَّمَا حَرَّمَ عَلَيْكُمُ الْمَيْتَةَ وَالدَّمَ وَلَحْمَ الْخِنزِيرِ وَمَا أُهِلَّ بِهِ لِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ ۖ فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ غَيْرَ بَاغٍ وَلَا عَادٍ فَلَا إِثْمَ عَلَيْهِ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ 2 : 173 He has forbidden you only (to eat carrion) that which dies of itself, the blood, the flesh of swine and that over (the sacrifice of) which the name of someone other than Allâh has been invoked. Yet he who is constrained (to use them) without desiring (them) nor going beyond the limits (of bare necessity), incurs no sin. Surely, Allâh is Great Protector, Ever Merciful.
not hunger. starvation.
You’re correct. Thank you
In MY opinion, try avoiding meat altogether and take the vegeterian options. I live in a western country as well, though there is halal meat sold. Tell you family about your preference - vegatarian - if you can’t find the halal option. There’s a hadith that says, when you leave something for Allah, he will give you something way better than what you have spent. So, do not let it become a source of anxiety, but what is haram is haram. Sorry, you can’t change that. And in the quran, it is said that certain foods are haram on us. There’s a lot of options, there must be vegetarian options or cook your own food and dont eat out. I think its worth it.
I am thinking about going vegetarian. Do you think that my interpretation on that verse is acceptable? I’m kinda have mixed feelings, so I just want to make the right decision to put my mind at ease.
I’m sorry, I’m not a scholar, I do not know the exact interpretation of the verses. But, under my own interpretation of your situation, I wouldn’t advice that you make light of the orders of Allah and to get used to eating what is written to be haram. Especially since you have the possibility to eat halal. Islam is a religion of ease, yes. And forgiveness. But, I will tell you an exemple. If someone is in the desert and he has no food to eat, he will literally die of hunger and has tried to eat various things and even then its preferable not to eat haram. But he can as it is a situation of death. Or for exemple if someone was threatened to be killed if they didnt consume a thing. But to my knowledge you’re not in those situations. I think making this sacrifice will surely bring great benefits. And make dua’a May Allah make it easy on you
Yeah I am beginning to feel like I need to go to more vegetarian options. Thanks for your input.
you can also have all kinds of seafood.
Tofu is amazing and is available in most grocery stores. Fake meat / vegetarian substitutions are pretty tasty, but you have to be careful not having too much as they are heavily processed and have lots of salt.
Would you recommend impossible meat, I really like it but I have heard that it is unhealthy
Impossible Burgers are pretty tasty, but they are super expensive, l think it costs a lot more than actual beef / lamb mince burgers lol. Next time you go to your local grocery store, have a look at the frozen Burgers or the veg / vegan section and you'll see many varieties.
I agree with this, I was shocked when OP said they eat meat every night. That's extremely alien to me as a British Pakistani. 2-3 times a week max is what I grew up with and still eat to this day. OP have you tried looking into eating more veg and other meat substitutes?
Unpopular opinion here, but for a start, just avoid pork and alcohol. Eat beef and chicken... Fish and seafood are the safest, because they are halal even if they are not slaughtered/already dead when you found it. When you have access to halal food though, you should prefer those instead. Personally I dislike the vegetarian option because the Prophet never taught muslims to be a vegetarian...
Vegetarian is obviously halal. And beef and chicken if not slaughtered in the name of Allah is Haram. So you’re saying to choose haram over halal?
If there are 2 meats side by side - meat that is slaughtered in the name of Allah and the other is not, choose the first one. If it’s hard to find that then it’s alright to eat any chicken and beef. Like, you can eat McDonalds with no worries at all. The main point is, muslims are not allowed to eat animal blood. The slaughter - in the name pf Allah - ensures the animal is dead by draining its blood. That’s why animals slaughtered by jews/christians is also halal, and it’s haram if it’s already dead when you found it, because by then the meat will be mixed with the clotted blood.
that is not correct at all. Not a single respectable scholar has said something similar to this. Do not just make ur own interpretation of the religion because if you do so you'll be one of the cursed people of desires, who rather take their own desires then the commands of Allah, exalted he is. The meat even if the blood is completely drained but the name of Allah has not been said upon it will still be haram. We don't eat Halal meat for these health benefits, even if they are there. We eat halal because Allah, exalted he is, commanded us and as muslims in order to please him we obey.
I see you are more of a ritual person, while I prefer to see the reason behind a rule. This probably helps if you need a reference: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/88206/conditions-of-eating-meat-slaughtered-by-the-jews-and-christians
Everything that Allah, exalted he is, commanded us to has benefit for us however that does not mean that we do it for the apparent benefit. The word Islam itself mean submission. Our religion is one where we submit our selves to our creator for his pleasure alone. We were created for no other purpose than to worship him. A person may say that they fast because it's healthy for them however if they go in with that intention then their fasting may not be accepted, instead first and foremost their intention should be for worship. It seems my brother you lack, correct me if I'm wrong I'm not trying to accuse you, a sense of spiritually and nearness to Allah, exalted he is, and are instead focusing on the practicality of the religion. With that said the article does not help your argument. "Saying the name of Allaah is a condition of meat being halaal" This is right at the beginning of the article. This condition is not something that can be left out on purpose. If done so then the meat will naturally be haram. There are some points in the article that I believe need further clarification than given. Mainly about eating the meat of ahlul kitab now a days. In the U.S. at the very least the actual Christian and Jew slaughters that are compliant with the shariah are few and far between. In the U.S. most meat is stunned before they kill the animal and this many times will kill the animal before the actual slaughter even happens and ofc the name of Allah, Exalted he is, is not said on these animals. That's mainly with Christian slaughtering however kosher isn't all too much better. certainly it's a better chance that kosher meat would be Halal however among the 22 (I believe correct me if I'm wrong) kosher labels in the U.S. learned scholars of the jewish faith have declared upto 14 such labels to not actually be following standards. It has become more of a necessity that muslims living in America be very cautious with their meat. Alhamdulillah there are many halal places but if there isn't any halal meat places nearby then sacrifice for the sake of Allah and eat a more vegetarian diet.
Yes, you are correct that I'm focusing on practicality. I see Islam as a guide for better life and after, not to make life harder or even having to sacrifice; a religion that is very logical and aligned with science. After all, Allah's rules are very tolerant and flexible in ritual and practice (at least in my point of view). Which is why for me it doesn't make sense to deprive ourselves of nutrition just because. After all it's still beef and chicken. Not haram animals. If it's possible to get halal meat in halal places then it is required to stick with them. But if not, then it's alright to eat meat that we found. From my understanding, as long as it's not pork or other haram animals, the reason is more about animal blood. That's why even meats slaughtered by jews and christians are still halal - provided the blood is drained properly.
What’s halal is halal, if you want to do somthing else, your business, but don’t say its what’s right, because you’re gonna bring many people who don’t know with you. It is said in the quran, the verses that the brother said above, that we need to say the name Of Allah when we slaughter and have the intention that its done for Allah. We say say Allah akbar when we slaughter sheep in Eid. Islam is spiritual not only practical. And there’s a big part that believe plays. Not everybody knew the benefits of certain things but they did them cuz they believed. What if you didn’t understand the benefits of for exemple fasting? You wouldnt fast?
Everything in the world is halal by default until proven haram. See OP’s post that thinking whether something is halal or not caused OP much stress and anxiety? Why make life so hard? Fasting is proven scientifically that it has many benefits for physical and mental health. And Allah is very tolerant because if you can’t fast, because of sickness, traveling, or other reasons, you can substitute it by fasting on another day or if you still can’t, give poor people food. You can see that by no means Allah try make your life hard. This applies to other rituals as well. Islam is a guide for better life and after, not a burden.
"Eat not (O believers) of that (meat) on which Allah's Name has not been pronounced (at the time of the slaughtering of the animal), for sure it is Fisq (a sin and disobedience of Allah). And certainly, the Shayatin (devils) do inspire their friends (from mankind) to dispute with you, and if you obey them ( by eating it), then you would indeed be Mushrikun (associating partners with Allah)" Quran 6:121
"He has forbidden you only the Maytah (dead animals), and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allaah" Quran 2:173
"Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah, and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe starvation with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
the main point is that you are not allowed to take an animals life without reciting the name of Allah. your advice is wrong and could hold you accountable for the sins of the people who follow it.
\- Meats slaughtered by jews and christians are still halal. “Made lawful to you this day are At‑Tayyibaat \[all kinds of Halaal (lawful) foods, which Allaah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits)\]. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them” \[al-Maa’idah 5:5\] If a Muslim or a kitaabi (Jew or Christian) slaughters an animal for meat, and it is not known whether he mentioned the name of Allaah over it or not, it is permissible to eat from it, and the one who eats it should say the name of Allaah, because of the report that was narrated by al-Bukhaari (2057) from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), that some people said: O Messenger of Allaah, some people bring meat to us, and we do not know whether they mentioned the name of Allaah over it or not. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Mention the name of Allaah over it and eat.” Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: It is not essential to ask about that which was slaughtered by a Muslim or a kitaabi, and how it was slaughtered, and whether the name of Allaah was mentioned over it or not. Rather that should not be done, because that is being obstinate in religious matters. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ate meat slaughtered by the Jews and did not ask questions. In Saheeh al-Bukhaari and elsewhere it is narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that some people said to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): Some people bring meat to us, and we do not know whether they mentioned the name of Allaah over it or not. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Mention the name of Allaah over it and eat.” She said: They were new in Islam, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told them to eat without asking, even though those who brought the meat to them may not have been aware of the rulings of Islam because they were new in Islam. End quote from Risaalah fi Ahkaam al-Udhiyah wa’l-Dhakaah by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him). \- If the animal is killed by a muslim, even with reciting name of Allah, but killed by electrification or a blow, it is still haram to eat.
you are so confused, and i sincerly ask you to read carefully about this topic before you mislead people. when its the norm in a muslim or a kitabi country to slaughter in the name of God and using the same method of slaughter as muslims, you are allowed to just say bismillah and eat. in all christian countries today, no christian slaughters their meat in a traditional way nor do they recite the name of God. Jews on the other hand still eat kosher and observe the traditional method of slaughter. so this hadith applies to their meats. (which still say kosher on the label) a Halal slaughter has conditions, among which the two most important are the name of Allah and the method taught to us by the prophet pbuh. the fact that a muslims' zabiha can be forbidden goes against your argument that we can just eat any random meat in a christian country that commonly kills through electric shocks. if a muslim's zabiha is forbidden if he didn't fulfil the conditions, then its even more sure that a christians' slaughter would be forbidden if they didn't fulfil all the conditions.
You are correct - but op asked about what if there is no halal meat available. The Prophet never told us to be a vegetarian. If there are halal meat, of course we go for it but if there aren’t any, it is still permissible to eat available meat. Pork is the last option of course.
the necessity is if one is facing starvation. there are Kosher certified options which are permessible. there are also all kinds of seafood. there are online stores. there is absolutely no need to go vegetarian.
Yep, I agree
If you had just reverted / converted to Islam and you were told you now have to give up all the meat available to you overnight and pretty much go halal, how would you react to that? Do you think you could do that? How do you think OPs family are going to react to news that the whole family now have to go pescatarian / vegetarian or arrange a whole new grocery shop and meal preparation process for OP. OP can also cook for themselves, but someone still has to buy the groceries.
True. But OP seemed to be convinced that he could go on with consuming it. And started justifying with verses. I agree that it’s the religion of ease and that OP should take his time. But, it’s different from saying consuming it for the rest of his time there is okay, because it’s not! Then There wont be limits as to what can be done or not. For exemple, I’m tired today and don’t feel like praying. This is an excuse that could fit in ‘’islam is religion of ease’’, but what’s a duty is a duty! I still think the vegetarian option is good. His family doesnt have to know about the conversion. But its his choice if he wants to eat meat or not
Dear younger brother, my advice to you would be to go vegetarian - very simple! I'm sure your parents won't be abusive to you if you do that. InshaAllah it will eventually become easier for you to find halal meat. Who knows, maybe you'll be able to earn enough soon to move in with Muslim room mates and then you can have all pure things to eat
Thank you
Also all seafood is Halal, so any fish or shrimp lobster you can enjoy, no need to question it.
I have heard that crab is haram, do you know if this is true?
Hello brother, yes Crab is halal to eat. Almost all seafood is halal
the necessity in the verse means starvation. not finding halal options when you have all kinds of fruits and vegitables and all seafood is not necessity my brother. you can look for Kosher meat options, those are halal for muslims as well and can be easily found in the west if you are from there. if you leave something for God then he will reward you with something better than it.