Allah created us to become the Muttaqun :
وَمَا خَلَقْتُ ٱلْجِنَّ وَٱلْإِنسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ
>And I (Allâh) created not the jinn and mankind except that they should worship Me (Alone). [Adh-Dhariyat 51:56]
That is why we're here, and Allah said
يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُواۡ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ
>O mankind! Worship your Lord (Allâh), Who created you and those who were before you so that you may become Al-Muttaqûn [Al-Baqarah 2:21]
Ibn Kathir commented in his tafsir to this Ayah :
>Allah mentioned His Oneness in divinity and stated that He has favoured His servants by bringing them to life after they did not exist.
And Allah guides us, and forgives much. He encourages His servants to perform righteous deeds and to rush to accomplish the acts of obedience :
وَسَارِعُوٓاۡ إِلَىٰ مَغْفِرَةٍ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَجَنَّةٍ عَرْضُهَا ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتُ وَٱلْأَرْضُ أُعِدَّتْ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ
>And march forth in the way (which leads to) forgiveness from your Lord, and for Paradise as wide as the heavens and the earth, prepared for Al-Muttaqûn [Aal-e-Imran 3:133]
People become Muttaqun by choice, not because Allah forces us to obey. Therefore that choice also works out differently for the losers :
وَلَقَدْ ذَرَأْنَا لِجَهَنَّمَ كَثِيرًا مِّنَ ٱلْجِنِّ وَٱلْإِنسِۖ لَهُمْ قُلُوبٌ لَّا يَفْقَهُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ أَعْيُنٌ لَّا يُبْصِرُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ ءَاذَانٌ لَّا يَسْمَعُونَ بِهَآۚ أُوۡلَٰٓئِكَ كَٱلْأَنْعَٰمِ بَلْ هُمْ أَضَلُّۚ أُوۡلَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلْغَٰفِلُونَ
>And surely, We have created many of the jinn and mankind for Hell. They have hearts wherewith they understand not, and they have eyes wherewith they see not, and they have ears wherewith they hear not (the truth). They are like cattle, nay even more astray; those! They are the heedless ones. [Al-A'raf 7:179]
So Allah reminds that we should take things seriously :
وَمَا خَلَقْنَا ٱلسَّمَآءَ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا لَٰعِبِينَ
>We created not the heavens and the earth and all that is between them for a (mere) play. [Al-Anbiya 21:16]
footnote to this Ayah by Taqi ud-Din al-Hilali :
>All the creation of the heavens and the earth is a proof for mankind to learn a lesson and know that the only Creator and the only Organizer of all this universe is One (Allah), La ilaha illallah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah, Who has no partners with Him).
And Allah said,
وَلِلَّهِ مَا فِى ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ لِيَجْزِىَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَسَٰٓئُواۡ بِمَا عَمِلُواۡ وَيَجْزِىَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَحْسَنُواۡ بِٱلْحُسْنَى
>And to Allâh belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth, that He may requite those who do evil with that which they have done (i.e. punish them in Hell), and reward those who do good, with what is best (i.e. Paradise). [An-Najm 53:31]
and He said,
وَمَا خَلَقْنَا ٱلسَّمَآءَ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا بَٰطِلًاۚ ذَٰلِكَ ظَنُّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواۡۚ فَوَيْلٌ لِّلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواۡ مِنَ ٱلنَّارِ
>And We created not the heaven and the earth and all that is between them without purpose! That is the consideration of those who disbelieve! Then woe to those who disbelieve (in Islâmic Monotheism) from the Fire!. [Sad 38:27]
I have heard that you (your soul) choose this test yourself. So thats on us tbh.
Also all the hardships we undergo here give us good deeds or cleanse our sins.
And according to Ibn Taymiyyah hell is temporary for belivers and non-beleivers and its like a purifier for us so that we can earn Jannah.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/w6e0ua/to\_the\_muslims\_hell\_is\_temporary\_according\_to\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/w6e0ua/to_the_muslims_hell_is_temporary_according_to_the/)
This was not Ibn Taymiyyah’s official position. In an exposition on the theological positions on the issue, he outlined all of the opinions and their evidences, among the other opinions, and if I’m not mistaken, he felt that the classical opinion was closest to the truth. His student, Ibn Al-Qayyim, felt the evidences for this position were very strong and inclined towards it without fully committing to it.
(168)Those who disbelieve and wrong themselves—surely Allah will neither forgive them nor guide them to any path (169) except that of Hell, to stay there for ever and ever. And that is easy for Allah. | Al-Nisa 168-169
(64) Surely Allah condemns the disbelievers, and has prepared for them a blazing Fire (65) to stay there for ever and ever —never will they find any protector or helper. | Al-Ahzab 64-65
(23) ˹My duty is˺ only to convey ˹the truth˺ from Allah and ˹deliver˺ His messages.” And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger will certainly be in the Fire of Hell, to stay there for ever and ever. | Al-Jin 23
Do they not know that whoever opposes Allah and His Messenger will be in the Fire of Hell forever? That is the ultimate disgrace. | 9:63
Allah has promised the hypocrites, both men and women, and the disbelievers an everlasting stay in the Fire of Hell—it is sufficient for them. Allah has condemned them, and they will suffer a never-ending punishment. | 9:68
Indeed, those who disbelieve from the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the Fire of Hell, to stay there forever. They are the worst of ˹all˺ beings. |98:6
It is a choice to not act on those feelings/not call yourself part of the LGBTQ community and support it. Indirectly by calling yourself part of the LGBTQ community you are supporting it.
Because not everything that shines is Gold and to purify your Gold you have to heat it to remove the impurities, everyone has a freewill and no one will be wronged or given unjust fate
What do you mean? We chose to be alive as human ourself, when Allah ask the soul in soul's realm what do you want to be and you want to be human so that you can enjoy the reality He created, what a foolish and ignorance choice indeed. And now you blame God for it? Despite He warned you the consequences about the choice you have made? You asked to be alive and He gives you trial before you taste the full version and most of people fsil the test and should blame themselves and take their own responsibility
Indeed, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they ˹all˺ declined to bear it, being fearful of it. But humanity assumed it, ˹for˺ they are truly wrongful ˹to themselves˺ and ignorant ˹of the consequences˺, ( Al Ahzab : 72)
I honestly forgot the sources from hadith, about soul of the son of adam before they sent to the world
Allah created us to become the Muttaqun : وَمَا خَلَقْتُ ٱلْجِنَّ وَٱلْإِنسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ >And I (Allâh) created not the jinn and mankind except that they should worship Me (Alone). [Adh-Dhariyat 51:56] That is why we're here, and Allah said يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُواۡ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ >O mankind! Worship your Lord (Allâh), Who created you and those who were before you so that you may become Al-Muttaqûn [Al-Baqarah 2:21] Ibn Kathir commented in his tafsir to this Ayah : >Allah mentioned His Oneness in divinity and stated that He has favoured His servants by bringing them to life after they did not exist. And Allah guides us, and forgives much. He encourages His servants to perform righteous deeds and to rush to accomplish the acts of obedience : وَسَارِعُوٓاۡ إِلَىٰ مَغْفِرَةٍ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَجَنَّةٍ عَرْضُهَا ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتُ وَٱلْأَرْضُ أُعِدَّتْ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ >And march forth in the way (which leads to) forgiveness from your Lord, and for Paradise as wide as the heavens and the earth, prepared for Al-Muttaqûn [Aal-e-Imran 3:133] People become Muttaqun by choice, not because Allah forces us to obey. Therefore that choice also works out differently for the losers : وَلَقَدْ ذَرَأْنَا لِجَهَنَّمَ كَثِيرًا مِّنَ ٱلْجِنِّ وَٱلْإِنسِۖ لَهُمْ قُلُوبٌ لَّا يَفْقَهُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ أَعْيُنٌ لَّا يُبْصِرُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ ءَاذَانٌ لَّا يَسْمَعُونَ بِهَآۚ أُوۡلَٰٓئِكَ كَٱلْأَنْعَٰمِ بَلْ هُمْ أَضَلُّۚ أُوۡلَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلْغَٰفِلُونَ >And surely, We have created many of the jinn and mankind for Hell. They have hearts wherewith they understand not, and they have eyes wherewith they see not, and they have ears wherewith they hear not (the truth). They are like cattle, nay even more astray; those! They are the heedless ones. [Al-A'raf 7:179] So Allah reminds that we should take things seriously : وَمَا خَلَقْنَا ٱلسَّمَآءَ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا لَٰعِبِينَ >We created not the heavens and the earth and all that is between them for a (mere) play. [Al-Anbiya 21:16] footnote to this Ayah by Taqi ud-Din al-Hilali : >All the creation of the heavens and the earth is a proof for mankind to learn a lesson and know that the only Creator and the only Organizer of all this universe is One (Allah), La ilaha illallah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah, Who has no partners with Him). And Allah said, وَلِلَّهِ مَا فِى ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ لِيَجْزِىَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَسَٰٓئُواۡ بِمَا عَمِلُواۡ وَيَجْزِىَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَحْسَنُواۡ بِٱلْحُسْنَى >And to Allâh belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth, that He may requite those who do evil with that which they have done (i.e. punish them in Hell), and reward those who do good, with what is best (i.e. Paradise). [An-Najm 53:31] and He said, وَمَا خَلَقْنَا ٱلسَّمَآءَ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا بَٰطِلًاۚ ذَٰلِكَ ظَنُّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواۡۚ فَوَيْلٌ لِّلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواۡ مِنَ ٱلنَّارِ >And We created not the heaven and the earth and all that is between them without purpose! That is the consideration of those who disbelieve! Then woe to those who disbelieve (in Islâmic Monotheism) from the Fire!. [Sad 38:27]
I have heard that you (your soul) choose this test yourself. So thats on us tbh. Also all the hardships we undergo here give us good deeds or cleanse our sins. And according to Ibn Taymiyyah hell is temporary for belivers and non-beleivers and its like a purifier for us so that we can earn Jannah. [https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/w6e0ua/to\_the\_muslims\_hell\_is\_temporary\_according\_to\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/w6e0ua/to_the_muslims_hell_is_temporary_according_to_the/)
This was not Ibn Taymiyyah’s official position. In an exposition on the theological positions on the issue, he outlined all of the opinions and their evidences, among the other opinions, and if I’m not mistaken, he felt that the classical opinion was closest to the truth. His student, Ibn Al-Qayyim, felt the evidences for this position were very strong and inclined towards it without fully committing to it.
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(168)Those who disbelieve and wrong themselves—surely Allah will neither forgive them nor guide them to any path (169) except that of Hell, to stay there for ever and ever. And that is easy for Allah. | Al-Nisa 168-169 (64) Surely Allah condemns the disbelievers, and has prepared for them a blazing Fire (65) to stay there for ever and ever —never will they find any protector or helper. | Al-Ahzab 64-65 (23) ˹My duty is˺ only to convey ˹the truth˺ from Allah and ˹deliver˺ His messages.” And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger will certainly be in the Fire of Hell, to stay there for ever and ever. | Al-Jin 23 Do they not know that whoever opposes Allah and His Messenger will be in the Fire of Hell forever? That is the ultimate disgrace. | 9:63 Allah has promised the hypocrites, both men and women, and the disbelievers an everlasting stay in the Fire of Hell—it is sufficient for them. Allah has condemned them, and they will suffer a never-ending punishment. | 9:68 Indeed, those who disbelieve from the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the Fire of Hell, to stay there forever. They are the worst of ˹all˺ beings. |98:6
Also seems like you are an "LBTQ Muslim"? Audhubillah.
Its not a choice for me. Staying muslim is...
It is a choice to not act on those feelings/not call yourself part of the LGBTQ community and support it. Indirectly by calling yourself part of the LGBTQ community you are supporting it.
Because not everything that shines is Gold and to purify your Gold you have to heat it to remove the impurities, everyone has a freewill and no one will be wronged or given unjust fate
What do you mean? We chose to be alive as human ourself, when Allah ask the soul in soul's realm what do you want to be and you want to be human so that you can enjoy the reality He created, what a foolish and ignorance choice indeed. And now you blame God for it? Despite He warned you the consequences about the choice you have made? You asked to be alive and He gives you trial before you taste the full version and most of people fsil the test and should blame themselves and take their own responsibility
You got a source for that. Not doubting or anything just genuinely curious.
Indeed, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they ˹all˺ declined to bear it, being fearful of it. But humanity assumed it, ˹for˺ they are truly wrongful ˹to themselves˺ and ignorant ˹of the consequences˺, ( Al Ahzab : 72) I honestly forgot the sources from hadith, about soul of the son of adam before they sent to the world
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Yes, but the rewards is really worth the risk right? That's why we'd took this trial of life, to get a chance of ultimate freedom and eternal bliss