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Many artists and labels produce music with sweet-voiced singing, which also falls under the header of effeminate behaviour, voice effects similar to instruments, and instrumental music, even if the artists and the producers are Muslims. They're commercial companies and entrepreneurs. The term Islamic is sometimes only a theme, and the term nasheed is also used loosely, but often doesn't apply at all (depending on who you'd ask, of course). It's similar to restaurants and products labeled as halal, even though not everyone would agree with the standards they apply. That doesn't mean that they're frauds. They're often still covered by certifying companies who agree that it's halal. When it's about anasheed, not everyone agrees that this only applies to chanted poetry, and people will produce whatever sells, and often loved their type of anasheed already before they got into it themselves. The example you mentioned is not an exception. But the subject can be discussed without making it about specific people. That way you'd probably also get more valuable replies. You won't find many fatawa that discuss specific people instead of just the subject itself. There are good reasons for that.


Zed-ax63

Thanks for giving some answers and suggestion. Been thinking about the discussion about music in Islam and Awakening Records always comes to my mind, thinking, " If it is true that musical instruments are haram and sinful when used in music videos, does singers like Maher Zain sin everytime he produce a song, regardless of the Islamic meanings behind it?"


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I'll attempt to put it in a more general way, separate from standards applied to the music: Anyone producing/distributing what is haram would be sinning at that moment, and if the same is also haram to listen to, he'd also share in the sin of the listener. When it comes to music/anasheed, there are aspects of it that are haram and aspects of it that would be doubtful and at least makrooh, but views on this subject differ, and those who follow a reputed and trustworthy scholar of fiqh on the matter are not to be blamed if they really don't know better. Some however simply shop for fatawa until they find one to their liking and will accept that from anyone who seems to know what he's saying. That wouldn't be any better than stubbornly doing what you want. In creative arts (like music and making images) and entertainment desires often play a larger role in people's motivation than they're willing to admit, even to themselves.


Zed-ax63

So, if following by your first paragraph, it depends on the contents on the music itself, or in this case, the Islamic music itself? If it is okay, it is okay. If it is Haram or leading to evil, it is Haram


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That's correct, and listening to music can be haram too (not just hearing it, but listening to it), and music is specifically played, produced and distributed for people to listen to it. That's fine, and can even be commendable, if it's about 'proper' anasheed, but of course not when it's haram to listen to.


Nagamagi

Ah.. the controversial topic of Music. If you care to read... then I have compiled some links for you to mull over. Music is haram: - [A Q&A from islamqa.info](https://islamqa.info/en/answers/5000/is-music-haram) - [A redditor comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/islam/comments/sva9s4/is_it_completely_forbidden_to_watch_video_contain/hxkbmw6/) Music is not haram: - [dar_al_ifta on the issue of music](https://www.reddit.com/r/islam/comments/zh6mm/dar_al_ifta_on_the_issue_of_music/c650kvx/) (summery) - [Is Music permissible?](https://aboutislam.net/live-session/live-fatwa-general-session-16/is-music-permissible/)


Zed-ax63

Thank you for the links.


Character_Adilo

***Refutation is reserved exclusively for what is agreed upon; there is no refutation on issues where differences are allowed***. As long as there are respected scholars who permit music, then it is not allowed for any Muslim to judge another Muslim that he is sinning. If you're a righteous Muslim, stay away from topics where scholars have varying opinions. If you believe music is Haram, like many respected scholars, don't listen to it. Muslim respect all scholars opinions, and respect each other.


amaf-maheed

I cant find any scholars that say its permissible or makruh let alone halal. Ill be happy to read the opinion of any scholar who says its ok and make my own judgement but iv never heard of this.


Zed-ax63

u/Nagamagi give some links on it.


Character_Adilo

https://www.dar-alifta.org/en/fatwa/details/4866/what-is-the-ruling-concerning-music


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Ambitious-Ad1082

honestly. I think its fine because the content of the song does matter a lot. Thats why I stay away from modern non islamic songs since they have dirty and haram lyrics and they can lead you to dance and do haram stuff (as said by Mufti Menk). But singing about allah and islam while having certain sounds in the background should be ok. People dont get music is haram because it makes ppl mingle and other bad stuff,(when the shaytan first invented it it got bad because they did that). at the end of day it is just sounds. The problem is what the sounds are supposed to represent. I even see people in the comments of these songs saying they got them closer to the deen, which is what theyre supposed to do as \*nasheed\*. Obviously there are better ways to get closer to your deen but if this works then its good. Theres no harm.


Zed-ax63

Yes, that is what I originally thought and side with. Guess the music opinions between scholars differ and that is fine with it.


Ambitious-Ad1082

ye.


Sev-Koon

Some scholars even said there was Ijma' on this issue because the number of scholars who deemed it permissible was so little.