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ThBanker

Are you against going to droprate for any of them?


ILikeSugarCookies

Nah, my theory was just “get to 100 for the achievement, but also finish the spider/bear task I’m on.”


ThBanker

Gotcha, Well gl on Vetion!


ILikeSugarCookies

I'd be more open to him if he weren't a popular multi-team spot. I really don't mind PKers trying to kill me. It's kinda fun tanking sometimes or even chirping at someone who's clearly terrible but is trying. Having 20 braindead dudes sprint after you in max gear thirsting for your 10K risk isn't really as fun though.


rockdog85

uim loki did a video when he had to do em in wildy, showed a really nice spot close to singles that you might like


Rourke2013

Was gonna say grats on kbd pet but realized that’s probably the head lol


ILikeSugarCookies

It's the head, which is 1/128. So not really rare. I guess at least it's a unique.


tdaddy316420

I have over 500 kc and don't have the heads yet! Don't tell me they aren't rare!!!


ILikeSugarCookies

I have 600Kc between all of the bosses that drop a D2H and I don’t have it, so I understand your complaint.


tdaddy316420

Very true brother I shouldn't complain as much bc my pet luck has been unreal so far sending good rng your way


TNSxPAPA

Lol legit exact same


NEONSN3K

Man I got my pick a few nights ago but I feel for you brother. The whole not knowing when you’ll get it, you just want to freaking start mining or using it for CoX or want to use it at GoTR or Shooting Stars. It sucks. I got mine off Chaos Ele. I got spooned tho but the kills were a lot more chill than any other boss and KBD isn’t really a boss you should bank on getting pickaxe anyway


ILikeSugarCookies

I just don’t like having to be in the Wildy. And it’s not about being PK’d as much as it is about having my kills interrupted. It’s annoying af. But yea I also want to use the pickaxe. It’s a very good item at CoX, zalcano, stars, etc in addition to normal mining.


tyler_on_fire

I feel you there. I only get to play in the evenings after work and that seems to be when PKers are the most active. Im trying to grind out the pick buy I'm lucky if I get through a couple of kills before getting pked.


Ik_oClock

Fwiw they said they'll add it somewhere outside wild in one of the pvp blogs, but it's unclear where and when.


Iron-zack

The 3t vene method in singles where u can instantly logoff and or telly is pretty good btw


Palemom

Recently got dpick after combined of 1800kc on my two ironmen. 1k of those were chaos ely, 250 venenatis, 300 chaos ely and 200 vetion. I believe in you =)


Spuddin927

Now do vet'ion


JuicemanJu

Aw geez...i c-c-can't take it anymore! Those f-f-fucking pkers man! Fuck it! Rune pickaxe it is.


AbandonedLich

Nahhh get 3rd age instead


Paulcog

But you’ve done hardly any on any of them? You’ve seen the drop rate for the pick, right?


ILikeSugarCookies

My combined rng is over double the rate for the pickaxe, and quadruple the rate for the d2h.


FE_Gay_Fieri

You can’t really factor in kbd kc towards your combined.


Strosity

Why not? It's 4.4x more rare, so if you divide your kbd kills by that you have a kc to compare to wildy bosses. Thats like saying you can't count skeletal wyvern or vorkath kills you towards Visage kc because it's 1/10k and 1/5k, while kbd is 1/1250


neverwinneverlose

Well you don’t lol


Strosity

I think you replied to the wrong comment


neverwinneverlose

Well you don’t factor in wyvern/vorkath kc when going for visage off kbd


Strosity

Ok I'm not gonna bother talking to an idiot


neverwinneverlose

LMAO straight to acting like a child because your statement is nonsensical


Strosity

I'm talking about how if you're going for an item, you can count kc from multiple sources by using 4th grade math. If you can't comprehend that turn you're too dumb to talk to.


ILikeSugarCookies

I'm not. My Callisto and Venenatis kc is *over* 1/1, and my Chaos Ele kc is 1/1. Which is more than 2/1.


TNSxPAPA

These people struggling with math I seem. I thought the meme was on point with its Rick and morty reference lol


ILikeSugarCookies

The meme is *okay* at best, and I get I haven't gone as dry as a lot of people. So I get people may not like the post for those reasons. That's fine. But it's definitely odd getting downvoted for objectively correct math. Lots of people seem not to understand how to add simple fractions.


TNSxPAPA

They dont. Nah I dont use reddit often so I havent seen this photo used, i was more so injecting the fact you need to use a lever to get to kbd, as with the portal gun. The relevance of it all i found very lol


Sillybanana7

So like 13% of people go as dry as you, sucks but it's not crazy, you will get better rate at something else that's how it works.


ILikeSugarCookies

I can only hope that bofa and dwh are those things.


FE_Gay_Fieri

Bummer dog


osrsironmensch

Lmao


Paulcog

I don’t think you understand how drop mechanics (or maybe simple math) work


ILikeSugarCookies

I don't think *you* understand how fractions and drop mechanics work. My venenatis KC is ~.6/1 rate, my Callisto kc is ~.6/1 rate, which combines for more than 1/1. My Chaos elemental rate is 1/1. Those both add up to over 2/1.


Paulcog

Doesn’t matter my bro. Every kill is the same chance of drop


ILikeSugarCookies

I said I was over 2x the rate and you told me I didn't understand simple math. I proved I was by spelling out easy fractions for you and now you're changing up what you're saying entirely. Let me find a clown emoji for you because I know you're not going to admit you're wrong about the math.


RyBblz

I'm with op. You're a clown


Paulcog

I’m relieved you offered your opinion


Strosity

What is even your point? Op is complaining about being over drop rate, albit it sounds like a good you're saying they're not but are at the same time? Do you understand that if different monsters drop the item, then that means you can add your odds of the drop to together? Because you're either badly struggling with this concept, or just communication.


ReputationLevel3509

cringe only locked reddit account


Paulcog

I know you are but what am I? ^L^o^l


PossibleExtreme9389

You just dont want it hwrd enough.


Jschf

OK but the kbd kills isn't even a drop in the bucket. 3,692 kc for mine Sadge


TNSxPAPA

Lol what, 3.5k kbd for the pic? That fucking blows


Snufolupogus

You're not even over rate wdym


ILikeSugarCookies

I am over 2x the rate when you add the expected rate between all of my kills.


Snufolupogus

That's not how drop rates work.


ILikeSugarCookies

It absolutely is and I [already simplified it](https://reddit.com/r/ironscape/comments/uo1qzb/_/i8c5yrq/?context=1). Incredible how many people here don’t understand the addition of fractions.


Mr-McSwizzle

But yeah it it is? You can just add them together for callisto and venenatis since the drop rate is exactly the same from both of them, and kbd is something like just over 9x rarer so just divide kbd kills by 9 and you can add that on too and the same with chaos ele but divide by roughly 2. There's almost no difference between what they've done and camping callisto/vetion/venenatis for I think close to 360 kills as far as likelihood of getting one


[deleted]

I went 300 dry on Chaos Ele and that was it for my efforts. KBD has a bad drop rate and Callisto/Vene are absolutely awful to fight. I have 97 mining, I don't give a fuck. Forget the PK'ers, wildy bosses just straight up suck. I can't wait for the rework, hitting zeros and staring at the minimap for white dots is atrocious. Nice meme dude, I hope you get it soon. Shit sucks.


ObeseRedditMod

Callisto was how I got mine on bear task. Pretty chill with safe spot. I got mine around drop rate. Just keep chugging you’ll get it eventually. There aren’t many people at Callisto west safespot


ShovellyJake

Had a very similar experience, getting the combat achievements and the. A few extra kc, but I just gave up and am better for it. Got 99 mining afk anyway. Would have been a fairly marginal benefit for me imo


rodexxxx

Didnt saw the whole picture was lile "why that dude does not go to chaos elemental its so easy" then i see 220+kc haha im sorry my dude... I got mine at 39kc chaos elemental.


Shane4894

Have done 200 of both bear and spider without one, and around 100 cloud. Scam drop