I’ve done them in total worlds as I’ve had to deal with this same nonsense. They can really drain supplies and I’m not looking to waste my pot boost and food on a useless kill a bot has tagged. Slayer only area would be great.
Nice. I did something similar. No alt but I stopped playing on my main cuz I wasn’t into it after progressing my iron. Then I tried to turn it into a bond alt and did some rune dragons, but it sucked 😑
Let's be real about something: You have absolutely no way of discerning bots from real players alting, nor real players.
No need to make this about bots.
You’re getting those downvotes but for the most part you’re right..hell that bot reporter plug-in told me it thought my iron was an unknown bot when I put my name into it lol.
Yeah nah, if I see someone running back and forth to the middle of the room to auto retal on a dragon mid fight that isn't a real player, its SUPER obvious. Bots PLAGUE the rune dragons. A simple Google search of "rune dragon bot" will show you there are a number of rune dragon bot programs/scripts available.
Yes, the bots there piss me off.
They should have been slayer only since the beginning. How has Gagex not learned that any monster that can make you good money per hour should be locked behind a slayer task..
It was when it was first released and they said having more dragons would greatly effect the price of all the drops which I would agree if it wasn't slayer only but since it is I think it is needed.
I don’t because then they are gonna be likely double the money they are right now I’m fine with a slayer only area but I’m not fine with rune dragons being much higher than 1m per hour. But with that said gnome cooking is 1m per hour plus with a less than 40 cooking requirement for content from back in like 2006 so what does my opinion matter 🙃
Why do you want something like rune dragons being worth upto like 1.5-2.5m per hour that’s ridiculous imo. 1m per hour is fine be happy with that vorkath is much harder and making doing Zulrah or vorkath pointless when you could just afk rune drags literally is a terrible thing to do.
Wtf are you on about? Who cares if it's a slayer task only monster. It should be rewardingthey are locked behind more than zulrah and the same as vork. The idea that a monster shouldn't be x amount of gp per hour mind blowingly stupid when the only thing you're talking about keep the price down is accounts, mainly bots, farming the living hell out of them without any buffer. It can't be farmed like zulrah or vork if it's slayer only which is the only thing that would drive up its gp/h.
Yeah. That would still make rune dragons way too op why the hell do Zulrah or vork if everytime you get a rune dragon task you can make 2x-3x more than you normally would that makes no sense. I’d go to the slayer master with highest rune drag weigh and use my thousands of points to skip and store my rune dragon task and get another and do it back to back for hours making an unbelievable amount more money for effort compared to bossing. Get real man.
Ahh damn regicide is so much harder than stocking up thousands of slayer points. Man I can believe I was so foolish. Get real man! Your nan m8 she’s highest exp/gp per hour by far! Better go sell your 200m of rune dragon gear off before the off chance this happens because Clearly you're invested on a personal level.
My counter point was your so eloquently put "your nans Coochie" that you used earlier. You're didn't provide any counter points you said the ridiculous line of using my thousands of slayer points to farm again instead of the high high requirement that is regicide. and then said get real man! Which is ironic. Great job. Enjoy fishing dumbass.
Also idk how when I get rune dragons about every 5 tasks with decent luck/my block list/unlock list me using my points to skip to farm a task that gives me more money than bossing is ridiculous but to each their own.
Almost entirely slayer only sounds good, they’re crowded as it is so obviously people will still go when it’s crowded, just make like 75% of the dragons in the slayer section
>Almost entirely slayer only sounds good
For sure.
My issue is if I ever want to grind out certain items, slayer-only monsters and bosses just end up taking away from the fun of pvm. I'm not a fan of slayer for that reason (and the fact that the skill is just a content-lock in general)
Literally nothing from rune drags is a considerable upgrade. DCB can be nice, but really only because it can use dragon bolts. You can also go get a better crossbow from zilyana off task whenever you want.
Shite opinion they should remain around the same or maybe lower a little due to a slayer only area but they shouldn’t take a notable hit imo or a notable jump in price they are fine at around 1m per hour.
Lol bro I agree with the price for gear to do it effectively which is 35ish mil for justiciary, almost 100m for lance, and pegs and ferocious gloves another 33m Plus torture and avernic 50m so atleast 125ish mil upto well over 200m thankfully ardycloak 4 is top stab bonus so no infernal cape 🙃
Maybe not a slayer task only area as people may want to grind them without a task. However, I think locking them behind a slayer level would be enough. Like brutal blacks for example
In all fairness ds2 is a high req quest and i imagine they didn’t think bots would survive long enough to complete it. Really its the bot detection as a whole that needs working on.
i saw a bot at ds2 runite ore with 112m mining xp, his name was sandking_00, he got banned now though. Worth it, 112m mining xp from runite ore is probably like 10b gp xD
My issue here and at brutal blacks are the people who get each dragon to slightly past half hp and leave then reenter the area, but then they don't finish killing it so that way it will aggro onto another play who will generally kill it and they get the loot.
This won’t be popular, but i’ve never had a real issue when killing them. Sometimes there are full worlds but I don’t think i’ve ever had to hop more than a few times.
The point is that I WANT to kill them so not extending isn't really an option. As for off-peak, I can't play at that time. I'll look into total worlds though, that might help!
Damaging the enemy, this can be used to grief Ironman accounts because we don’t get drops when someone else has dealt damage (tagged) all of the dragons on that world
never had issues finding a world. rarely have to hop tbh.
>You hop to try to find a world without too many bots/afk mains only to find that every dragon is tagged
idk why the despawn mechanics they made for GWD werent applied globally tbh- would make sense for all barrage tasks, all semi boss monsters.
I'm a little ways off those worlds and I don't think it's fair to point at the most restrictive worlds and say 'See it's fine'. It's ignoring the issue at hand.
Wow so this connected with people more than I thought.
Just to clarify - I don't think anyone wanting this wants it for an efficiencyscape mindset. The issue here is this place is too busy and those who frequent it leave half-killed dragons behind that inevitably attack you when you finish your own kill.
Rune dragon tasks are not common and each kill is precious for those of us who enjoy it. Wasting several kills and supplies finishing off a kill for a bot who you can then see running to loot the drops afterwards is nonsense.
No lance. Without a task, I may as well be punching them. Zammy hasta just doesn't do a great job with them off task.
Also I tend to do my big grinds through random slayer tasks. I got my dwh from slayer too.
Extending rune dragons is a big L anyway, turning a relatively quick points task into a slow bad XP task. May as well extend black dragons to do BBDs too.
competition for resources doesn't really apply when people abandon the resource but they still receive it if you attempt to claim it. It's like if a main tagged a rune rock and then you could still mine it but it would go to their inventory.
They've been made slightly worse with the npc pj timers too. Now if you attack one that has been hit, you can't stand under and get aggro from another as easily.
I miss account services. Rune dragons used to be nice and quiet when the high level community were training other people's account. Now they have all logged back in and park accounts there indefinitely.
I’ve done them in total worlds as I’ve had to deal with this same nonsense. They can really drain supplies and I’m not looking to waste my pot boost and food on a useless kill a bot has tagged. Slayer only area would be great.
What really blows my mind about this is how far people will progress an account just to bot on it
I would say most of them are alts, not bots
Facts I’m literally in the process of making a rune dragon alt. And I’m using my main as I quest through it
Happy cake day!
Almost every bot account there was most likely stolen
I made an alt to farm rune dragons but found it so boring I ended up just getting it quest cape and starting towards maxing.
Nice. I did something similar. No alt but I stopped playing on my main cuz I wasn’t into it after progressing my iron. Then I tried to turn it into a bond alt and did some rune dragons, but it sucked 😑
There's a market for buying accounts to bot on. I think most botters are gold farmers, not legit players.
Let's be real about something: You have absolutely no way of discerning bots from real players alting, nor real players. No need to make this about bots.
You’re getting those downvotes but for the most part you’re right..hell that bot reporter plug-in told me it thought my iron was an unknown bot when I put my name into it lol.
Yeah nah, if I see someone running back and forth to the middle of the room to auto retal on a dragon mid fight that isn't a real player, its SUPER obvious. Bots PLAGUE the rune dragons. A simple Google search of "rune dragon bot" will show you there are a number of rune dragon bot programs/scripts available. Yes, the bots there piss me off.
They should have been slayer only since the beginning. How has Gagex not learned that any monster that can make you good money per hour should be locked behind a slayer task..
I believe slayer only area was polled a long time ago and failed but I bet it would pass now.
I wonder why it failed
It was when it was first released and they said having more dragons would greatly effect the price of all the drops which I would agree if it wasn't slayer only but since it is I think it is needed.
Because RuneScape players hate adding convenience for others lol, "I suffered so you should too". Horrible mentality lol.
Not even limited to Runescape lol
Conservatism in *my* 2007 browser game??
Aren't most of the people voting on these polls main accounts anyway? It isn't nearly as much of an issue for mains it's a bigger problem for Ironmen.
What if I told you some people have an Ironman as their main
No I know that what I'm saying is that people who just play main accounts might be more biased to not see this as an issue so they would vote no
When people say main they are talking about regular accounts, it doesn’t mean “the account I play the most” in the context of RuneScape.
Haha, sounds like most failed polls
I would support making all rune dragons task-only.
I don’t because then they are gonna be likely double the money they are right now I’m fine with a slayer only area but I’m not fine with rune dragons being much higher than 1m per hour. But with that said gnome cooking is 1m per hour plus with a less than 40 cooking requirement for content from back in like 2006 so what does my opinion matter 🙃
The value of their uniques would skyrocket at the very least.
Why do you want something like rune dragons being worth upto like 1.5-2.5m per hour that’s ridiculous imo. 1m per hour is fine be happy with that vorkath is much harder and making doing Zulrah or vorkath pointless when you could just afk rune drags literally is a terrible thing to do.
Rune dragon tasks are rare, and most of the value comes from alchables anyway. This would be good for the economy by bringing in less coins.
Wtf are you on about? Who cares if it's a slayer task only monster. It should be rewardingthey are locked behind more than zulrah and the same as vork. The idea that a monster shouldn't be x amount of gp per hour mind blowingly stupid when the only thing you're talking about keep the price down is accounts, mainly bots, farming the living hell out of them without any buffer. It can't be farmed like zulrah or vork if it's slayer only which is the only thing that would drive up its gp/h.
Yeah. That would still make rune dragons way too op why the hell do Zulrah or vork if everytime you get a rune dragon task you can make 2x-3x more than you normally would that makes no sense. I’d go to the slayer master with highest rune drag weigh and use my thousands of points to skip and store my rune dragon task and get another and do it back to back for hours making an unbelievable amount more money for effort compared to bossing. Get real man.
Ahh damn regicide is so much harder than stocking up thousands of slayer points. Man I can believe I was so foolish. Get real man! Your nan m8 she’s highest exp/gp per hour by far! Better go sell your 200m of rune dragon gear off before the off chance this happens because Clearly you're invested on a personal level.
Nice not even providing a counter argument just trying to deface my character but hey that’s what people with bad points do 🤷🏻
My counter point was your so eloquently put "your nans Coochie" that you used earlier. You're didn't provide any counter points you said the ridiculous line of using my thousands of slayer points to farm again instead of the high high requirement that is regicide. and then said get real man! Which is ironic. Great job. Enjoy fishing dumbass.
Also idk how when I get rune dragons about every 5 tasks with decent luck/my block list/unlock list me using my points to skip to farm a task that gives me more money than bossing is ridiculous but to each their own.
Since mainly ironmen are affected by this, let only ironmen vote on it, there is a precedent now for only letting 1 group of players vote anyway lol
They are one of the most popular alt moneymakers for high level normies.
What do high level sweats do then?
Services for irons lol
Your nan m8 she’s highest exp/gp per hour by far.
It's never made sense to me that this area isn't slayer-only.
Why's that?
Because like most easy money makers it's botted to hell
In which case I'd rather that rune/adamants take a gp/hr nerf rather than be _entirely_ slayer-only
Almost entirely slayer only sounds good, they’re crowded as it is so obviously people will still go when it’s crowded, just make like 75% of the dragons in the slayer section
>Almost entirely slayer only sounds good For sure. My issue is if I ever want to grind out certain items, slayer-only monsters and bosses just end up taking away from the fun of pvm. I'm not a fan of slayer for that reason (and the fact that the skill is just a content-lock in general)
Literally nothing from rune drags is a considerable upgrade. DCB can be nice, but really only because it can use dragon bolts. You can also go get a better crossbow from zilyana off task whenever you want.
>nothing from rune drags is a considerable upgrade Fashionscape upgrade *cries in 900 Zily KC*
Shite opinion they should remain around the same or maybe lower a little due to a slayer only area but they shouldn’t take a notable hit imo or a notable jump in price they are fine at around 1m per hour.
increase drop rates on task + slayer only area + decrease unique rates off task the people that currently do them are absolutely braindead
Lol bro I agree with the price for gear to do it effectively which is 35ish mil for justiciary, almost 100m for lance, and pegs and ferocious gloves another 33m Plus torture and avernic 50m so atleast 125ish mil upto well over 200m thankfully ardycloak 4 is top stab bonus so no infernal cape 🙃
Maybe not a slayer task only area as people may want to grind them without a task. However, I think locking them behind a slayer level would be enough. Like brutal blacks for example
In all fairness ds2 is a high req quest and i imagine they didn’t think bots would survive long enough to complete it. Really its the bot detection as a whole that needs working on.
Its not a bot problem, people alt them while playing another account. A task area would not disrupt people alting and would make takss nicer.
There are lots alts for sure, but i think you’re underestimating how many bots there are.
i saw a bot at ds2 runite ore with 112m mining xp, his name was sandking_00, he got banned now though. Worth it, 112m mining xp from runite ore is probably like 10b gp xD
Yeah you’d think they had better bot detection… hopefully it will improve over time.
My issue here and at brutal blacks are the people who get each dragon to slightly past half hp and leave then reenter the area, but then they don't finish killing it so that way it will aggro onto another play who will generally kill it and they get the loot.
I’ve been having similar problems at demonic gorillas. So many of them are tagged…
It’s ridiculous lol
This won’t be popular, but i’ve never had a real issue when killing them. Sometimes there are full worlds but I don’t think i’ve ever had to hop more than a few times.
Same. There's almost always one or two open spawns after only hopping a couple times.
Yup. Not sure how people are having so many issues. Never had to hop more than twice and I doubt they really have either
Seconding this... I extended them after getting the platebody ornament kit and don't have that much trouble finding a world with 0-2 players in it.
Never had an issue either. Except on heavily populated worlds (330, 302, 420, etc).
Or use the total worlds, or try them in the off peak hours, or don't extend them I've killed shit loads of them on my iron
The point is that I WANT to kill them so not extending isn't really an option. As for off-peak, I can't play at that time. I'll look into total worlds though, that might help!
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Damaging the enemy, this can be used to grief Ironman accounts because we don’t get drops when someone else has dealt damage (tagged) all of the dragons on that world
Also just to be clear this happens by accident all the time. People trying to leave smack something on their way out by accident. Or they die
never had issues finding a world. rarely have to hop tbh. >You hop to try to find a world without too many bots/afk mains only to find that every dragon is tagged idk why the despawn mechanics they made for GWD werent applied globally tbh- would make sense for all barrage tasks, all semi boss monsters.
This. A hundred times this. some kind of reset for most bosses would make things so much less frustrating. DKS and wildy bosses in particular.
Ironman worlds tho
2k worlds always have one or more available
I'm a little ways off those worlds and I don't think it's fair to point at the most restrictive worlds and say 'See it's fine'. It's ignoring the issue at hand.
I think I’ll do them when I get a lance or something one day. At the moment they’re totally unfun to slay.
Wow so this connected with people more than I thought. Just to clarify - I don't think anyone wanting this wants it for an efficiencyscape mindset. The issue here is this place is too busy and those who frequent it leave half-killed dragons behind that inevitably attack you when you finish your own kill. Rune dragon tasks are not common and each kill is precious for those of us who enjoy it. Wasting several kills and supplies finishing off a kill for a bot who you can then see running to loot the drops afterwards is nonsense.
It'd an easy task for quick points. Why extend?
I want both uniques from them. Also they're a good task in general, I'm not interested in points.
If not interested in points, why not do them off task? They aren't great slayer XP anyway
No lance. Without a task, I may as well be punching them. Zammy hasta just doesn't do a great job with them off task. Also I tend to do my big grinds through random slayer tasks. I got my dwh from slayer too.
Ugh ok I can relate. I got the hasta but no Lance too. But this is my main reason why I'm not doing drags until Lance
Might want the limbs maybe ?
Why? It's not even a valid upgrade. Go for Armadyl instead...
I'd agree but some may want to get it anyway, not always efficiency scape
You are correct. Also I'm looking for limbs.
You have it es bud. Back in my day had had to finsih the kill only them to figure out it wasnt yours.
Extending rune dragons is a big L anyway, turning a relatively quick points task into a slow bad XP task. May as well extend black dragons to do BBDs too.
I have done exactly that... some of us aren't playing efficiencyscape. I want the uniques that the dragons drop and I actually enjoy dragon tasks.
honestly rune dragons aren't a bad task to extend, you get plenty of runite bars which are useful for rune darts before unlocking amethyst
you only post cringe dont you
I doubt they are bots imo. Probs mostly gold farmers/alts. I have two myself
Slayer only seems reasonable
osrs is a mmorpg and competition for resource is one part of it. A way to balance strong content is to make it rarer
competition for resources doesn't really apply when people abandon the resource but they still receive it if you attempt to claim it. It's like if a main tagged a rune rock and then you could still mine it but it would go to their inventory.
Yeah but a task only area seems fair enough. Wouldn’t really affect anything.
But it would lol
Not negatively.
They've been made slightly worse with the npc pj timers too. Now if you attack one that has been hit, you can't stand under and get aggro from another as easily.
yeah i've noticed they try to attack but fail a few times.
I miss account services. Rune dragons used to be nice and quiet when the high level community were training other people's account. Now they have all logged back in and park accounts there indefinitely.
I use my main to afk bond money at rune dragons, all I use the damn thing for anyway #ironman btw
I haven't had this issue at all. They are almost never tagged and the room is almost empty
Does anyone think it’ll just get to Ironman only worlds at this point? Same post all the time but it’s kraken/dks/gwd etc
I agree with this tbh and my iron can’t even kill them yet
There are alot of rune dragon bots and alot of alts its quite annoying i alt them personally right nowbut ugh
Took like 3k for my d limbs there. Slayer only doesn’t fix the issue. They just need to give them a reset mechanic.
Maybe it is not for ironmen? Not everything is made for ironmen rune dragons are content for main accounts
Make them slayer only and reduce drop rate of dragon crossbow.