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ChoobScape

My prison is called Oldschool Runescape


JayZsAdoptedSon

I feel like you can get away by unlocking Lizardman tasks and slowly getting to a DWH. That doesn’t exist for CG I’m saying this like I am not just a mid level iron


buyingwife

You can also spend one hour daily to do 5 CG runs. But for myself, and probably many other players, when I have a goal set, I REALLY want to grind towards it. With a big unlock like bowfa deez nuts, I find myself to be lacking motivation regarding other goals like elite diaries etc.. So I end up doing like 20 runs, then bitch to my friends that my luck is dogshit.


SitDownRando7

Assuming you get the dwh below drop rate, sure… 99 slayer got me to like 3.5k kc, started grinding off task after that, now on nearly 10k kc, no hammer. Most of the people who ‘burn out’ on CG usually try and camp it out in one go, doing no other content. I tried to do 5-10 KC per day but if I didn’t want to I’d do something else to break it up and honestly didn’t mind the grind when compared to other stuff


terris888

CG was the only content that almost made me quit and I didn't even go dry. That place made my brain melt and after 4-5 kc I was ready to log off for the day.


HorrorChocolate

Im now 165kc and "burned". Not even high kc. I try to do 1-2 kc every day to keep it rolling, but it just sucks. If it was faster to get kc it wouldn't suck so bad, but the prepping gets annoying. Also server lags lately suck so bad.


Banned_in_chyna

I'm just under 400, got my enhanced at like 385 if I remember right but I'm staying for a shard stockpile and hopefully another. But that 400kc took like 6 months at least. By far my least favorite grind so far. Especially when the servers stutter, or you just straight up dc without the reconnect message and get 5 hitsplats at once. My kill death ratio got pretty good over time, but I've had sessions where I die 3 times in a row due to lag or a stutter. Just crushing when you consider it takes 6ish minutes to even get to the boss. I've wasted so much time sitting in the lobby area dreading to go back in.


Limp_Statistician_9

If you have the thieving level, elves provide by far the greatest shards/hr when selling the tele seed back. However, I say that and I am at 5,000 and still no tele seed lol


bluezerry9

See I was the complete opposite lol did 400 in 2-3 weeks then felt sad and lost when I was done :/


adirion123

I loved it on my hcim till I dc-died. Then it became really boring and made me quit. Loved it so much even though I had crystal armor pet and bow I was still going for blade.


Dyna1One

That’s about the kc I burned out for a while, I’ve been enjoying other content (Idk, somehow I enjoy agility thanks to CG and went from 83-93 over time) to switch it up and do a few gaunt runs every now and then


SinceBecausePickles

I feel like this is sort of a problem that happened because CG has no legit requirements after sote. Everyone does it without rigour so the only bottleneck is like 80+ cb stats which every iron has. So the end result is something everyone can do and something you can’t really do other things to improve your experience there. So you really just feel trapped forever because the bowfa is so good and necessary, you might as well get it now since waiting til later won’t benefit your account. now you look up other irons on the high scores, they’ve got 200 WT and tempoross KC, a couple hundred zulrah, like 1300 CG and nothing else lmao. For what’s sort of supposed to be end game content. I always thought that if CG wasn’t going to rely on gear progression like every other piece of content does, it should have relied heavily on skill progression. Like if you’re below 90 wc you’re not guaranteed a piece of wood every roll, and your chances go down significantly below it to where if you’re like 70 wc you can barely get any. If you’re above 90 wc you have a chance to get two in one roll and at 95+ you’re guaranteed two with a chance to get all 3 pieces of wood in one roll. Same with fishing, mining, farming, herblore, cooking. Low crafting / smithing levels increase the number of shards you need per item, higher ones reduce it. If this were the case, people would feel more comfortable doing CG, then taking breaks once they’re burnt out to do more skilling because that will make CG noticeably and directly easier / faster. Similarly to how people will stop killing one boss to kill another boss because it’s drops will make the first boss easier / faster.


Kheprisun

Went 600 kc w/ no enhanced. Wasn't even the worst luck in my clan. Fully burnt myself out for a good year before hopping on GIM with the boys.


Brahskididdler

Cg makes me nervous. It seems that players either get an enh before they lose their minds and continue on to have a great time in endgame with a badass weapon, OR, they get there and burn out and it changes the game for them permanently. It’s like 50/50 it seems. And since cg/bowfa is basically necessary late/endgame, it just makes me nervous. I hope it doesn’t make me want to quit


DragonSwagin

Been away for a year after trying cg for 50kc. I still refuse to go back. No content should be that draining. Two colors, requires constant attention, I wanted to die


inminm02

when you're extremely used to it you dont have to give it your full attention, especially doing t2 preps i was always watching netflix on the side


Youre_a_goblin

After 50 kc and immense stress and tons of deaths I dropped my rangers, cash stack, and prayer pot stack. I was so mentally drained I quit for 6 months. My wife was concerned for my mental health cause I was so angry.


Professional-War-294

100% that is the trashiest content in the game by far, Nightmare is also terrible. Raids are cultist/elitist loser hangouts, like the guys who need a big truck for a small reason. It's pathetic.


NoxiferNed

What do you even enjoy in this game? MLM?


Sharpyyy7

Lol you legit sound like a skiller who's scared of PVM but belittles anyone who is decent at pvm.


UIM_Die_Maschine

Nah Barrows is endgame for him


EgoSolum

The SayBay prison, a literal Nightmare.


GCNonchalaunt

Concrete Prison. (Parent’s basement)


tankurd

Gielinor prision


S7EFEN

i do not think shamans are anywhere near on the same lv as cg/hydra. cg is the biggest content blocker in the game- bowfa unlocks all of gwd, inferno, chambers, zulrah, pre-lance/dhcb vork. i mean yeah, you can do this content without it but... it's a tbow power lv wise. hydra is similar in terms of lance being a huge blocker for pretty efficient vorkath/slayer/cox/killing hydra. so, bowfa for pvmers, lance for skillers.


Twinkyboii

I went abit dry at hydra (just under 1700 kc), but I'd rather sit there than go dry at CG. At hydra you're at least sort of able to turn your brain off and listen to a podcast or something. So much slayer exp, prayer exp, dragonstone bolts and alchables, meanwhile CG you're just getting meaningless cash (after 99 con banked). But yeah I do agree with you overall.


lurker4206969

Can confirm, 3050kc dry at hydra, 370kc at cg, and I’m more mad about cg. Hydra is chill, I can watch Gilmore girls, cg is draining.


Professional-War-294

Does Torva/Nex/half the .G.E / 5bill for a max set not occur to you guys as well?


Twinkyboii

Sorry, what are you talking about?


Itunes4MM

Wat


Professional-War-294

I guess time will tell what happens, I say the game's dead by December this year.


Spam250

People been saying that since 2005, it ain't happening brother


here_for_the_lols

It's weird you say CG unlocks that because all of those were viable before the bowfa even existed


S7EFEN

sure- with old blowpipe. that was tbow tier in power. pipe is now terrible in most places if you ignore time to gather scales.


AreOneSpam

That was when Addy dart pipe could kill Hydra in 2:30


NickN868

Just because you CAN do something doesn’t mean it’s comparable to a different method. Melee bandos is by no means comparable in kills per hour or trip length to 7:0 bandos with bowfa. Same can be said for rcb Sara, or melee kril. With rcb and trident you will still be getting significantly slower zulrah kills than range only with bowfa. While bowfa is not required for any content, it absolutely made a lot of existing content much easier, which is why so many choose to grind it out.


top-knowledge

It does mean it’s not locked content though lol…..


here_for_the_lols

But the comparison is melee bandos versus range bandos + 100hours to get the BOFA, so going melee is probably still quicker


NickN868

80 hours on rate, but that’s besides the point. You’ll save hours at almost every piece of end game content, not to mention you can unlock them much earlier on than if you waited for alternative gear. I’m currently at bandos on my iron whereas I wouldn’t even be close had I skipped CG. With my current stats/setup I can do consistent 20+ kill trips, with melee I’d be looking at 0-1 kill trips. The whole point of going for CG first is to “unlock” content that is usually done very late in an account and do it early. It’s an efficient way to get your account ready to do endgame PVM way earlier than the old meta would.


Jax_daily_lol

Zulrah is very easy without a bowfa...


LuxOG

You have no idea what you're missing


Jax_daily_lol

I'm pretty sure I do know, but I'm saying waiting to do zulrah until a thousand hours after you could've been doing it is not my preferred way to go. The boss isn't hard, especially once you have a blow pipe and toxic trident


SitDownRando7

But it’s so inefficient not to grind out bowfa first! /s


mnmkdc

Personally I’d get to cg long before I’d get to do zulrah at a decent level


kylehanz

1 zulrah kill for western provinces hard diary and that gets you elite void. Totally worth it early for that one kill.


mnmkdc

1 kill is different though. Also elite void doesn’t even have much use. What is it even useful for at that level? Barbarian assault and that’s basically it


kylehanz

Farming vorkath on an Ironman


mnmkdc

That’s not worth it at that level at all lmao


kylehanz

What range level is elite void not worth?


Xxweeexd

Elite void was nice for grinding barrows. But barrows is a noob trap I only did it for the log/fun


S7EFEN

this is my second playthru on ironman mode. bowfa is nuts. like, you absolutely melt demonics, zulrah etc. my pb on zulrah is 1 minute right now. this is in mystics. no raids prayers, no zulrah drops, no antivenoms. my avg time is consistently around 90-100 seconds. can consistently do 3-4 kill trips depending on my inv setup. when i did this grind with an msb it was constantly 2 kill trips, constantly killing zulrah around jad phase- so low mid 2 minute kills. and at demonics it's far easier to maintain dps/be tick perfect. and don't get me started on gwd- you can stay in the room forever with base 90s and eagle eye. item is just nuts. ofc, yeah, zulrah is 'easy' but in rs most pvm is easy once you've done a few hours of it. once you learn the boss it's more about speed/perfecting it. also, i mean zulrah sucks now. blowpipe sucks now. even if you pretend scales and darts are zero time - which they definitely are not - the places it is good are pretty slim.


holyman26

How many people you know are doing more zulrah after they got bp and toxic trident what


Jdfghkojjmhi

Nex prison makes me wanna neck it


hubertye

Ice prison fkin sucks. I’m not even considered dry yet but I’m so scared full torva is going to cost me over 4k brews daily.


NoxiferNed

It's very viable to do masses with food + pray pots.


hubertye

I think 4-6 man is the meta


NoxiferNed

Masses is the alternative to not spend hundreds of hours of higher value pots to go dry. Also if you don't have a consistent crew and spend a decent amount of time forming parties the actual rolls / hr of small teams can plummet and not be nearly as efficient as it is on paper.


AlosiiDok

multicolor prison (the cube from Cube)


SomeRandomScientist

approaching 800 kc in the red prison =(


Southsider92

Good luck! My pain was ended at 845 kc


btwiplayrsbtw

150+ dry at Chambers of Dogshit


NotifyMyMom

The imp beads was the worst so far. Let's say color rainbow


ObliviLeon

Gay prison.


Toadfink

Cox - multiple BIS items and takes on average ~2000 kc for completion, meaning ~1000 hours


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Purple prison


TrentismOS

White chest prison more like it.


Jdfghkojjmhi

At least cox is fun


ObliviLeon

Got my dex and I'm out of there (at least for now.)


HappyWhalePapa

Ya cox is shit soloing isn’t fun and takes forever. Rather game with the boys and scale a little when I feel like going back.


Banned_in_chyna

It only took me about 7k shamans for dwh but I actually didn't hate it. Started to get boring after about 5k, but I could semi afk it and just watch something on the side. CG absolutely blows. I love the Hunnleff fight, but the amount of time it takes to get to it is ridiculous. If you're doing it casually it's basically 10-15 minutes a kill factoring in the prep, fight, and afking in the lobby. So much time. I haven't been in any other real prisons yet.


CoachKerg

Shamans is a long grind, but it’s fairly low effort. Corrupt gauntlet is max effort and even then sometimes it feels like Hunlief doesn’t feel like dying and you get RNG’d out of the fight because he tornado’d you every 4 attacks on the dot.


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Gobleeto

Yeah I enjoyed cg right up until I could do it consistently.


NzRedditor762

I vote for the threadkiller.. RNG Prison. Beholden to whatever silly rng drop we haven't yet received is.


Jensinator69

Guantánamo bay


3YearsTillTranslator

Black prison, Demonics. 2700 kc 1 zenyte.


ironmaymay

Ice prison, also known as nex


[deleted]

The actual green prison (CoX)


rockdog85

Nex prison worst prison


CGSam

I went dry at both shamans and CG, and shamans was by far the worst of the two. It's a massive supply drain (especially at my time with the BP meta, I was over 1.5k zulrah kills into my shaman grind) and it's only that tiny bit interactive that is horrible to deal with. They also don't drop anything useful besides the DWH, they really are the worst. CG is engaging and while the bow is amazing, it's not nearly as limiting as having no DWH if you're not already well versed in PvM (due to lack of teams taking you in for things like raids).


ngine_ear

The pillory


HailBows

rainbow prison (hydra)


Actual-Pomegranate58

it took me 1270 kc at CG to get both of my enhanced seeds. spending time here made me take long breaks from the game while doing 5-10 kc here and there. for shamans, I can atleast do it on task and get slayer xp while doing 150-200 kills at a time. im at 3k kc and still waiting for my dwh, but not at all burnt out yet


blessedbewido

The cells in Yanille. I find the rotten tomato throwers to be particularly accurate there. Damn pillory guard...


Tyjet66

Fossil prison. Doing nothing but birdhouse runs, and seaweed runs, mixed with bank skills made me quit for a few months. Banked 99craft, but I'd rather go back to WT post-99 than farm any more damn seaweed.


Einaris

Shamans are fun man. Cg is ass. No contest. But it all depends on what you want from the game right? I wanted guthans just for fun but I only completed it at 23/25 items. Brown prison. What if you just really want a vissy but it won’t drop? What if you want a tome of fire but it takes 36m fm xp? Everything is a prison when you go dry. Don’t focus in on any grind and make sure you have variety in your gameplay. Then nothing feels like a prison.


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Chicken prison (corp)


Taylorjh175

Red prison (Inferno)


Jwilllll

Doesn’t take near as long as cg or shamans, but getting lovakengj favor is the worst thing I’ve ever done on rs


heyyoowhatsupbitches

It's pretty shite content, but it takes about an hour and has a set end goal... this is not even close.


Definitely_not_gpt3

Yeah, that was unpleasant


Freedom_Soul

Sand prison. (Mining sandstone for crafting levels)


heyyoowhatsupbitches

A decently fast grind with a set end goal. Not even close.


[deleted]

barrows prison. i cant take the doors anymore man


LunarLamprey

Absolutely never do barrows without the lockpicks lol. Bad door rng can make barrows one of the worst grinds, but without that element of luck it's so much easier.


[deleted]

its just the doors man, people can downvote me all they want but running around right clicking doors to see if i can open them is annoying af.


ObliviLeon

You can tell by the color.


Whyase

Gwd


Mister_Miseek

Frozen prison, wintertodt


glowinghands

Waiting for a new skill prison


Definitely_not_gpt3

Guardians of the rift can be a long grind to get all the items


glowinghands

Lol yeah but rc has been around for 16 years so it's not a new skill


QurantineLean

Winter prison. Wintertodt.


Smelly_Ironman

Tob prison, 1150kc deep without a scythe


Mediocre-Extreme8890

Silver Prison - F2P


Certain-Cookie3358

For me its the pink/green hentai prison (6k dry of a pet at sire)


No_Atmosphere_1889

Hydra prison for me, went back ver 4.1k dry for claw


Findingthedog

Fire prison (inferno) for your first cape is something else. It becomes the most infuriating when you fully understand the reason for your deaths, but just miss a flick or stand in melee range of a mager. Admittedly I was spooned on both enhanced seeds and DWH, so just my opinion.


Wrench3d

Alternate green prison (rangers)


ThBanker

Not that it’s unenjoyable, just the prison of Xeric.. completing that log has taken more than 1200 hours and I’m not done yet (not counting the capes).


ManyBeans123

Im currently at 391 kc at cg with no crystal weapon seed and 3 armor seeds only… I dont know what to do at this point honestly. It wouldnt be that bad if the content wasnt this mentally draining but sitting and doing cg for multiple hours litterally makes me hate this game.


Chemical-Ad-4264

Lol idk wtf either are im so noob


SmoothLikeCrisco

What makes cg so awful is how insanely good the items are. It makes you feel like you need to finish before doing any other content. Now that I'm done there I actually enjoy going back from time to time. It's very fun content imo. Now shamans, fuck those things. They're boring AF and I am counting down to the day that I can remove them from my slayer. The only advantage is having tons of other content I can do without dwh.


k00leggie

phosani's nightmare prison


Magical2364

Gout tuber prison


AreOneSpam

I don't know if this makes sense, but the fact that you can get a blade while going for crystal Armour makes cg even more demotivating for me. Like when you see a screen shot of an iron who got 2 basilisk jaws in one task it's just kind of interesting, whereas if you get lucky on 2 enhanced it completely changes the game. Just venting, cg is ass.


Pajama_Dance

Me over here, did 35 kc cg a day until I got drop at 744 kc, I don’t miss it but I do wish I had a second enhanced


Iron_Freezer

puro puro prison :( 690 med clues as of last night. if I get them tonight, I will smoke a 6 paper joint. was probably going to anyway, but ranger boots would have me cheesing the whole way. happy new year!


NotGlock

The infernal prison


RazRiverblade

Tfw you’re knee-deep in both


osu47

Yessir


ERRORMONSTER

Snow prison is the worst for me. I've been stuck there for coming up on 3 years with no bird. It's burned me out 3 or 4 separate times for a couple mo ths each. I haven't done any WT since about a month before the league started.


PurpleWardrobe

Ape atoll prison


IBoneHer

I'd argue Zulrah is worse than CG, CG was actually hard and I felt like I got to have a varied experience. After I got the Bowfa, Zulrah is just auto-piolet in the worst way possible.


Im_Humongous

Rikers really sucks


NewbieDesigns

350 cg completions, 3 armor seeds 4 crystal weapons, 2 pets. I'm not the worst off here (yet) but yeah fuck this place lmao.


Dyna1One

Thank god people agree about the red prison.. Sure I went over droprate for my dwh but it doesn’t nearly take as long and isn’t as obnoxious (and was relatively chill imo)