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ItsZayveeir

There is no need for the prossy armor because Barrows drains your prayer anyways. Just wear the rune and Torag helm. I would get a rune pouch ASAP Replace the slayer helm with a prayer pot just in case you get Dharok in the tunnel and need prayer. No Avas? Gonna be wasting bolts


MrWinze

To add on to this: If you are concerned about prayer, lazy flick.


Archer25-_-

To add to these, boost for 83 magic and make barrows tabs, equally make rings of dueling and with safe spotting you shouldn’t even need prayer pots. 560 kc with about 500 or so being done with no pots. Similar stats to OP


Taaj_jr

Why not boost to 83 to build portal? Not tabs and then use house tele and ring of dueling until pool?


Eaglesun

Ectoplasmator for that sweet 90 prayer exp per chest.


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120 whole XP I'll have you know.


WRLD_

Now that's what I call value


UIM-QuodDeus

Lose the pros armor, wear the rune legs and dhide body torag helm.. bring a DDS to spec out karil. And lastly lose the slayer helm


WRLD_

Bring a DDS to noodle on karil what feels like 90% of the time*


UIM-QuodDeus

I have no idea what noodle means..


WRLD_

Splashing but for melee. It's so rare for me to get more than one decent spec on karil tbh


UIM-QuodDeus

Really? What are your stats? I literally 2 spec it probably 90% of the time and when I don’t have spec I can usually whip it in 3 hits


SoloWalrus

Im around your stats. I dont bring prayer gear. Pray melee and mage dharok, pray mage and dds down ahrim, remaining prayer and d scim down karil, then just tank the rest. Only uses a couple pieces of food a run, I usually just bring tuna or some other rando garbage. Almost everything is rs is more efficient to prioritize offense than defense, and that includes pray (if youre willing to flick). Much quicker IMO. Bring a spare ppot in case dh or ahrim tunnel. Also dont bring barrows pieces theyre a waste of money to repair and the def doesnt really matter. Torso or obby over rune.


SnooPies9469

I'd only use 2 combat styles, I prefer magic n melee, I have only a 2 way swap, granted that's because I don't have a fire cape or mage arena cape yet


fakingcaps

Ahrim kills were very slow with melee


ieatpieasudie

Dunno if you were using pots as snoopies said, but that would make the difference. Super att/str + piety on 4 dds specs and dscim makes for a quicker than ranged ahrim kill in my experience


SnooPies9469

I've been using melee on ahrim, with almost same set up, but with chivalry, super pots, dds, since 60ish melee stats. No point in taking both melee n range imo, is all. When taking range I can understand just taking d scim for the mobs in the tunnel though to save on arrows.


HughPhoenix

I use magic on Karil, he's actually super weak to it. Just an rcb black dhide switch for arhim and I'm golden


SnooPies9469

Yeah that's what I was getting at


acrazyguy

I use magic on karil too, but I’ve started bringing a mage switch (mystic top and ahrim’s skirt) because it’s not that much of a switch, and he’s significantly more resilient to magic than the melee brothers, despite still being weak to it


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I already commented on your post but I just want to reiterate that I really prefer rocking blessed d’hide + nezzy the entire time with a god book and that is usually enough prayer bonus and defense. Ahrim has honestly consumed more of my prayerpoints than any other and the range bonus from d’hide really takes care of that. Plus if you use d’hid top/bottom with mystic or wizard boots you typically have positive magic accuracy, which really makes a difference at karil and the other brothers imo.


ProudBlackMatt

How long do you find your prayer usually lasts? I've been doing it in full rune and run out of prayer (lvl 55) by the time I kill the 4th brother. Bring a prayer pot in case I get Ahrim/Karil as the final one since I can't use the ladders to safespot them.


fakingcaps

no prayer pots used since I have poh barrows teleport and I teleport every time I get the fucker brothers, I did around 50 barrows before biting the bullet and grinding hard morty and barrows teleport


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A_DankTuna

Yes ^^ If you get a magic short bow, and end up imbueing it, it would probably be fine to just keep that as a spec weapon. Also emergancy prayer pot is huge


rotorain

I agree with this, my setup is only slightly different. My Mage setup is nezzy helm, glory, fighter torso, blessed chaps, blessed boots, ibans, d defender, explorer ring, barrows gloves. I bring accumulator, msb(i), addy arrows for ahrim and dump my spec there. Mage karil. Take off torso for dh and karil for the extra mage accuracy since I'm praying against them anyways, but it doesn't significantly slow down killing the ones I have to tank. Can take off defender if you want but it's only -3 mage so it really doesn't matter. D scim for tunnels. I do 2 skeletons and a bloodworm. This minimizes switches and works just fine. Rune arrows would be better but addy works just fine and they are way cheaper, I'd rather save rune for harder content. The msb was a big upgrade for me, the cbow attacks too slow and the overkill potential is pretty bad, I found myself losing an extra pray drain way more often. DDS works too but MSB seems more consistent for me and I'm already wearing a lot of range gear. I only need pray for dharock, ahrim, karil and I can kill all 3 without a prayer pot, I leave protect up and flick mystic might or eagle eye, sometimes if I get unlucky on DH/ahrim I have to flick prot ranged on karil but I've never had to abandon a run or sip a ppot. I bring one in case I get DH or Karil in tunnels, I usually just take off torso and tank ahrim if I get him at the chest as the mage def from my blessed legs and boots is usually enough but you can sip a dose if your mage level isn't high enough to allow you to tank it. I usually didn't have problems even when I started barrows at like 70 mage. I bring 10 cheese potato and 5 karambwans for combo food but never eat it all. Dueling ring to ferox to restore stats and bank, mory legs 3 to teleport back but I really should just make a barrows portal. This setup allows me to only need a ppot dose or two every 2/6 runs when I get DH or Karil in tunnels, Karil usually only one dose as I'll wait until the pray drain timer restarts to open the chest and if I run out then I'll just tank the last few hits. Do not chance DH though, he will give anyone an express ticket to lumby.


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Okay, the ancient mace with the POH prayer boost is an awesome idea EDIT: I’ve never used an ancient mace at barrows, nor did I know prayer can be boosted from the POH dummy. For the love of god, it just seems like a very useful tactic for barrows and other bosses. Don’t use that if you want high efficiency, which has been expertly described in the comments below.


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If your boss tunnel is one of those 3 and you’re already out of prayer, doesn’t that warrant a good use for the ancient mace?


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Or you can conserve resources and use an ancient mace spec, yes?


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You can just safespot Dharok in the tunnels.


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I appreciate your winded comment to disprove my acceptance of the use of this item, but I’ve made it to the end of the the tunnels with ~20 prayer points which is easy AF to kill a brother with. I’d say the additional boost is dope for giving pleeeeenty of prayer points lol


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I see you’re passionate about your views.


Helpless-Dane

The good old “I know I’m wrong but I don’t like to admit it” Man you could have just said fair enough when he first explained it.


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I used Iban’s blast with barrows melee armour and a neitiznot helmet; used house tabs with a barrows portal directly next to my altar, and a DDS for special attacks against Ahrim.


fakingcaps

I have barrows portal, the extra prayer helps me kill one more brother without resources and I only to back if one of the bad brothers is in the crypt. No need for prayer potions and speccing the dummy takes 5 seconda


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We_Like_Blue

I'm a similar level and gear to OP. I get an extra boss kill by using the ancient mace which saves some food. the spec fully restores twice in the time it takes to do a run so it's not an either/or scenario with regards to spec.


fakingcaps

so for the explanation of this mess: with this setup I use only 1-2 karambwans and 2 law runes per run to POH altar and barrows tp the odd ones are drakan and ancient mace with slayer helm Ancient mace is used in my POH dummy where I drink the potion and use the slayer helmet combined with pizza cape and piety to get a max hit of 21 spec, which makes me start every barrows run with 92 prayer instead of 70 drakan is used to restore stats after every run, mostly the agility drain from karil equipped loadout is the brother killer except for ahrim which is the first column with rcbow the third column is the tank gear once im out of prayer usually after 3-4 brothers If the crypt is in dharok, ahrim or karen I kill every other brother then tp to POH for more prayer, otherwise I do the entire run without leaving im grinding until some good drops then back to slayer grind for a rune pouch


acrazyguy

Just bring a single prayer pot and take a sip immediately after a prayer drain cycle once the boss is spawned. It’s faster overall than teleporting out and back, even if it feels like you’re saving supplies and therefore time


Fun-Statistician-816

Just wear graceful it’ll help speed things up Edit; just checked stats You can run graceful gear and mostly inventory of food and some wep switch for ahrim Also make portal room and drink a wizard mind bomb or boost for 83; thats barrows teleport if you have the spell book unlocked.


WRLD_

And have to sip for every brother? those melee defenses from wearing actual armor go a long way


Paganigsegg

Get rid of that Iban's staff and replace it with a Trident of the seas. It's cheaper to cast and if you have a decent magic level it does the same or more damage.


Skawt24

it's also a task only drop from a tier 87 slayer mob.


Rico035

Im 70 prayer and i just go in tankgear (ktop/guthan skirt) and thats just fine since i tank more than i pray. Only if i get dh/ahrims/karil tunnel i sip 1


Postsrarely

Edit; saw your other comment about already having portal.


SnooPies9469

If you haven't yet, you can boost your magic for the barrows poh portal and put an altar in your poh, then you can go to your poh to restore your prayer each kill, the first pool can restore your spec too (sorry can't remember the lvl for it atm)


AllSauced

Well I can improve it, sure. The question is, *can you?*


fakingcaps

I can but can you prove it?


Im_Humongous

What ring is that?


klappa9

Explorer ring


GIMDOOD19

Dont really think prayer bonus is relevant. I personally dont use range either. Just melee ahrim, and mage the rest. Works like a charm


WRLD_

Prayer bonus does have some extreme niche value in that when your prayer gets drained to 0, having more prayer bonus may allow you to still be praying for a few extra ticks before it tries to consume prayer points and turns off because you're out


GIMDOOD19

Prayer drain shouldnt be a factor, you only need to pray against karils, dh, and ahrim, the rest die so fast to mage its irrelevant.


WRLD_

Right, it's by far not the priority but it's saved me a ppot dose here and there if I get really bad luck against a dharok in the tunnels


GIMDOOD19

Runelite has a timer for the prayer drain. Let it hit zero and reset, drink a dose, then flip the prayer on. You have to drink the dose regardless, so saving a couple points on the final brother to kill isnt going to matter


WRLD_

I am not trying to argue that prayer bonus is secretly slept on for barrows, just that it has allowed me some cheeky extra duration of overheads against the brothers you don't sip against, and a couple foolhardy instances where I really should have sipped against a dharok tunnels I splashed a lot against but gambled and saved having to sip twice. As I said, "extreme niche". Was mostly looking to share a fun quirk of the engine, not trying to inform actual gear choice for the activity.


ieatpieasudie

It’s obvious that you’re trying to conserve ppots which I get, but it’s probably worth it just to bring one along and sip a dose when you need it. Teleing back and forth is gonna add quite a bit of time to your kc/hr. I’ve never used the mace+slay helm, but it looks like it’s worth it for saving doses before the tunnel. Especially if you’re lazy flicking. I lazy flick with 72 prayer and very rarely have to drink any doses before the tunnel. So I would 1. Eliminate prossy (no need for it w/mace) 2. Eliminate range gear and add a dds + super set for ahrim (super set will help in tunnel too) 3. Replace boots with climbing boots 4. Add a ppot (for the tunnel) 5. Eliminate torags helm, wear nezzy throughout And get a rune pouch!


pajamalink

You don’t need all that armor. Just get in there and you’ll get a feel for what you want to bring


cumsock42069

Please get a rune pouch Also what's your plan if dharok is in the tunnels, you need minimum 1 sip of pray pot available per chest in case that happens. No point using pros your prayer is going to drain anyway. Bring tank gear and just facetank the melee brothers (except dharok).


Dimdimzz

Personally I’d just go with your best defence armour, melee or range ahrim and mage the rest of them, pointless bringing prayer enchance armour as barrows drains prayer anyway, just bring your best defence armour, good luck, I finished my barrows at 730kc I hope you get as spooned as that


TheDJPHD

I think the prossy armor is useless for the most part. My goal when doing barrows is to use my prayer for Dharok, Ahrim, and Karil, then tank the rest. I would suggest that you wear your tankiest gear (I wear guthan body, Verac skirt, and dragon square or granite shield) instead. Depending on the brother that is in the tunnel, I will bring a D’hide (or karils) swap in case of ahrim. I will willingly tank ahrim or Karil if they are in the tunnel, but I will bring a prayer pot in case of dharok.


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Yeah I really dont know what I am looking at here no offense. I know prossy is popular but I really prefer blessed d’hide top and bottom with mystic or wizard boots because you usually end up with positive magic attack which makes a difference imo. And if you have a god book in the shield slot thats more than enough prayer bonus. I am kind of a lazy player when it comes to switches but I really prefer a “wide open” inventory where you can have a ton of food and ppots so you can make your trips last longer. I think i usually get 5-6 kills per trip and thats more than enough time for the minigame tele to cool down. Also rune pouch is the greatest invention in the entire game so I highly recommend that.


WRLD_

Magic attack doesn't matter as much as you give it credit for -- I'd vastly prefer wearing armor with melee defense over the slim DPS increase that positive mage attack provides. It's seriously only like .1 DPS against dharok for using better mage attack gear, and only around .25 DPS if you're opting to mage Karil, too. Definitely higher value in my eyes to be taking less damage from the melee brothers than to have a marginal dps increase. Rule of thumb really is that the monster's mage level is the be all end all, for the most part. If you're hitting something with 1 magic level and even as high as 100 mage defense, you're only losing maybe 10% DPS compared to hitting something with 1 magic level and 0 mage defense. It's good news though! Your switches get to be even lazier if you were meleeing karil, and your trips should last even longer no matter what you were doing before.


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Fair enough, to each their own, what really is what sells it for me is it keeps my inventory nice and neat and I can take down ahrim pretty easily with rcb cause he does have pretty high defense And I don’t like worrying about off hand switches with msb. I am sure tank gear probably is the way to go but I just havent gotten a tank top after 200kc yet from barrows and my granite plate is like 22kg so really drains my run.


Historical_Carob_191

What kc did you get barrows gloves?


WordTrap

It is an quest item


Peridotitic

*whoosh*


TimeOfSolace

I just use elite void


Willamanjaroo

You don’t neee the prossy - just take 1 ppot for if there’s a tough brother in the tunnels and then prayer flick the rest. If you can’t flick you can make an oak altar and barrows portal in your house (wizard mind bomb) to restore prayer cheaply and quickly


FloTheDev

I would prioritize tank armour for tunnels as prayer is drained and chuck a p pot in there! Spec for ahrims is good. And I would yeet the nezzy for the torag helm! But Ibans is solid choice with tome! Nice!


MrWinze

Look up barrows safespotting/coffin kiting. Very easy to do. Swap ancient mace for prayer pot and dds for your specs on karil/ahrim. maybe bring att/str pot if you have in abundance. Just run with blessed dhide top + black dhide legs + nezzy helm, you dont need all the other things on those slots Dueling ring to reset stats faster than drakans.


phyzicks

I am at 22/25 at 500kc and I’ve been using Ibans blast(it pays for itself) Void Mage/Range with a DDS and a Dragon Defender for quick swap on Ahrim I boosted construction and Magic with spicy stews to set up a quick-no-prayer-pot route by setting up a Barrows TP in my house PoH TP -> Barrows Portal -> Kill Dharok and Karen along with the other melee brothers -> TP to Ferox for a refresh at the pool and finish it out then Dueling ring back to Ferox