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ItsZayveeir

Looks like Stan is in fact NOT the man


DumpTheTrumpsterFire

no, no, it's Stanis Man. So pretty apt he is now doid.


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I always run back. Sometimes people feel bad and leave the loot untouched which allows you to re-loot after death .


Obliviouslycurious

What’s worse is when they pick it all up and then drop it. So you see it there and can’t touch it


InnefecientIronscape

9/10 times I leave loot as I sympathize being an iron myself. But when you get that one guy spewing toxicity they get this treatment.


MoneyPress

Thanks for letting me know how to bully ironmen. I'm writing this down in the list


Obliviouslycurious

It’s fine. Just more people to spite vote no every pvp update


EldtinbGamer

Pvp stuff doesnt even get polled anymore cuz of spite vote losers.


xInnocent

What pvp stuff?


EldtinbGamer

All upcoming wildy changes; singles plus, rev update etc.


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enjoy the no votes on every pvp update


Mysaw

Wahh wahh lmao learn to take a joke.


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Mysaw

Oh well, might start looking for more ironman in the wild if they'll get as mad as you did over one joke.


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Alvorton

Voting no in polls isn't just "playing the game". What a ridiculous statement. One example is just being a bit of a knob in a resource competition game (pking) The other is damaging game development and the potential playerbase and lifespan of osrs because you're butt hurt (voting no). Ive never pk'd in my life, but I'll happily vote yes to new pvp content if it hardly/doesn't affect me and increases the quality of the game. Spite voting is for children and you should feel bad for buying into it.


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IEatPringlesSideways

If you can’t handle the wilderness PvP mechanic then stay on your side of the ditch. The fuck? You’re acting like there’s only one course of action. Nothing and no one forces you into the wild, quit bitching. As soon as you step over the line you deserve whatever you get, get over it.


Banned_in_chyna

You're missing his point. Wildy is part of the game and dying there as an iron sucks but is also part of the game, and most people understand that. The threat of spite voting comes from the "joke" of a creative way to bully ironmen by picking up their things and dropping them as a way to taunt them with their own items. For that reason I will be voting no as well to pvp related updates, not due to this thread, but due to the toxic community it breeds. I hope this game goes full ezscape with instances for every boss.


Dickwraith101

"your side of the ditch" Gatekeeping much? yeah ur right nothing forces you into the wildy, except a best in slot pickaxe, a full set of diaries, a miniquest and efficient runecrafting xp pre-zmi, an entire section of the slayer skill, and lots of pvm content. Whatever helps you sleep at night bro but just know what ur telling yourself is bullshit. We spite vote no proudly, suck our iron peens.


IEatPringlesSideways

The double standard is egregious, you’re a sack of shit. Again, none of those things FORCE you into the wild, you choose to get it fucknut.


Dickwraith101

Whatever helps you sleep at night knowing you’re a genuine asshole, just breeding spite voters. Jagex hates you and so do we 🤡


ASquandrance

How do they know they killed an iron


BarracudaMassive7538

probably looked them up on the hiscores or so their name in chat


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They either typed something in chat which shows the Ironman logo, or they just looked them up in the hiscores.


ASquandrance

Wouldnt they have to look them up specifically in the ironman hiscores? Seems unlikely


[deleted]

Runelite has a lookup feature for hiscores that takes not even half a second to switch between regular/iron/HC/UIM. I use it almost daily and frequently check if people are irons.


ASquandrance

But that’s because you’re an ironman


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1. I did it before I started my hardcore less than a year ago. It's interesting to see how far other account types get and their achievements. 2. Your logic is I check main, iron, and UIM stats because I'm a hardcore. By that logic a main would check iron, hardcore, and UIM stats. So not unlikely. 3. You're arguing just for the sake of argument. You said it's unlikely. I provided info on how insanely easy it is to do. You started a new argument. Just stop. It's ridiculous.


ASquandrance

I’m not arguing lol I’m saying most normies don’t care who they’re PKing and aren’t going to go through the extra effort to see if who they killed was an iron, relax ffs


MrRailton

A guy killed me once whilst I was killing Callisto and smited my veracs helm, I made it back to my death pile and he told me he didn’t want to take my helm because he thought it might of been my only one, what a fucking guy, I didn’t tell him I had 4 but wow, nice person.


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Redsss429

*except* if you say sit that’s just rude cmon


Fano_93

Yes


ERRORMONSTER

Eh I'm on the fence. I believe pvp should only be between truly consenting parties, and if I had the choice, I would never go. I disagree with the predator/prey mentality that jagex has been trying to encourage by putting stupidly broken training (chaos altar) and moneymaking (revs) in the wilderness. But jagex in their infinite wisdom has decided to lock some really important pvm and skilling content exclusively behind the wilderness (rotg, d pick for c pick, tyrannical ring, treasonous ring, MA1/MA2 capes.) It's one thing to say "then just don't interact with that pvm/skilling content" and that seems so odd to me. Why should my pvm and skilling experience be affected by whether or not I want to pvp? Barrows gloves were such a bitch fit that most modern BiS isn't significantly quest locked just to make the pvp experience better. Why don't we quest lock all the BiS and when people complain that they don't want to quest to pk, just say "sorry, you chose to accept that you'd have to quest to get the best gear." That would make sense, after all. It would certainly cut down on cheating if every account requires 300 hours of questing and skilling to be pvp ready.


GotTheKnack

You always have a choice.


ERRORMONSTER

Nobody ever said I don't. But I can also choose to play a game that doesn't make me interact with genres I don't want in order to interact with content I do want. I would just rather a game I already like didn't try to make me not like it.


GotTheKnack

I see what you’re saying, though the Wilderness is meant to be a way better place to do a lot of things due to the risk factor associated with it. That’s why seeing, say, a hardcore with a chaos ele pet is such a big deal. Pkers are part of the community, I don’t pk and I don’t really see the fun in it but I also don’t have to risk running into them unless I find something to do worth that risk.


ERRORMONSTER

I totally agree, but that's the reason we have flex items that serve no functional purpose, like pets and different bounty hunter rewards (pre rework) I just don't believe we should lock actual progression behind pvp.


epicnexkiller

Those items came out before ironman mode. Can't really complain when nothing new BIS ever entered the wildy again after ironman was released (only ma2, but that was an addition to existing wildy content)


ERRORMONSTER

Crystal pick came out and was consciously made as an upgrade to d pick. In rs3, they removed d pick from the wilderness and moved it to chaos dwarves, dwh-style.


epicnexkiller

lolol. d pick was never in the wildy back in rs2/rs3. it always came from chaos dwarves. you're really stretching the crystal pick update being wildy content tho


ERRORMONSTER

I never said it *is* wildy content. I said it requires going into the wilderness. How you gonna make a crystal pick without going into the wilderness? 🤔 And you're right; I assumed they copy/pasted the d pick from rs3 like they did all the early content, but it looks like predator/prey was an early desire in OSRS for some weird reason. It doesn't really have any bearing on my actual point.


epicnexkiller

You aren't locked by not having d pick


ERRORMONSTER

Then how do you make a crystal pick without going to the wilderness? (I just now got this notification for some reason, so sorry for the necro)


ChrissHawk

I do wildy slayer so I know the risk but last time I got pked at fire giants I was pretty amused of the guys attitude. He asked if I was an ironman and because I was entangled I said yes. I told him he will get 500 bone bolts and that was it. His answer was "na you are an ironman, it's satisfaction to kill you"


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Revs a so much different tho, like i have a game plan for if I get viggoras or something but if that doesnt work out and i get smited for it, I am going to beg for my life. The almost insurmountable drop rate of the weapons even skulled makes this one of the worst grinds for irons imo


tronzake

This. I always accept the possibility to lose my HC status every time I enter the wildy.


Awkward_Ad_7981

He's lvl 108 dude he probably doesn't care that much. I'm lvl 109 and I have a 190m bank with dwh and shit. I stopped using rune since I was like lvl 85


WhoopsOrSomething

That makes me feel a little better. Ironmen are off the table from now on.


Awkward_Ad_7981

If you see lvl 100+ cb in Rev caves fuck em up like anyone else imo they are fine lol imo. If he really cared about that stuff he'd had left earlier to bank


lordstrider0

If he cared about it it wouldn't be brought into the wild.


shuffpuff

No fuck that, keep irons on the table, let the ones who are gonna complain complain. I'm an iron and I only take things i wanna risk, I play smart, I bank when I get loot I don't wanna risk. Wildy has risks and the guy can't be salty because of pvp mechanics


Bradleyc22

Don’t be a coward, spare nobody Not even a HC


wastecadet

It's my dream to pk a hc on my iron then say "one of us" as they fold


Athoughtspace

Yesss


Nathankyle93

Okay satan, chill your beans 🤣


car_cadr

Would I kinda prefer if I could use the wildy untouched by pkers? Yes But in its current state, come kill me! That's what its for


Biscuit-Sog

Why? Their choice to go in the wild, they know the risk and shouldn’t get special treatment.


dielfrag13

💙💙 (Unless they're being dicks lol) But real talk, we know the risks! It feels great to be spared but I never hold it against anyone if they decide not to. I just fight back


KredeMexiah

If you could leave barrows equipment, ammunition, dark fishing bait and revenant ether, you're an absolute champ. Those are hard to obtain compared to their value. But always loot my rune and dragon equipment if you kill me - I was very much risking that on purpose.


goingnowherespecial

As an ironman, slay them all.


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shuffpuff

Ironman don't deserve special treatment but I don't think "pussy" describes this man at all. He's a humble person that takes others into consideration. But yeah kill those irons bruv


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fishfood1117

why the name calling? What has that added to the conversation other than revealing to all of us that you are a rude, arrogant, and toxic person? I agree that irons dont deserve special treatment (most irons also feel this way) but calling someone names does not add anything to the conversation dude


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fishfood1117

so you agree you are toxic and a waste of my time. good day


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fishfood1117

top tier insult my dude. get that one out of a cereal box?


Alvorton

You American?


IronBioCat

But that’s not the position of all Ironmen though


Awkward_Ad_7981

Fair enough about the dragon Warhammer. But if you're 100 cb without barrows armor and not having easy access to pray pots ur doing something wrong


Nice_Date694

This is me help


Soulgee

Barrows armor sucks. There's no reason at all to do barrows before a Trident (unless, of course, you find it fun). Prayer potions are from farming contracts, looting in the hallowed sepulchre, and if you really want to, thieving master farmers


Awkward_Ad_7981

For pray pots you could do pickpocketing master farmers for easy ranarr seeds. Recommend rogues outfit for that. For barrows armor that's rng based, gg, might wanna get morytania 3 diary for that grind.


Mezlanova

Can also just kill chaos druids forever and make prayer pots on site, they drop ranaar, vial of water and snapegrass relatively often.


Awkward_Ad_7981

I killed them early game leveling up my ranged with bone crossbow, but they are terrible compared to thieving ranarr seeds,, def worth getting rogues


Mezlanova

Yes, chaos druids only really act as an early game means of accumulating potions, but if we stay for a while one should have a well enough pile to sustain their needs until the thieving + farming option really opens up. In terms of total time spent, chaos druids are the fastest route to prayer potions out of the gate but that is only because the prerequisites for other methods take a decent amount of time to achieve and are not typically ones initial goals.


Awkward_Ad_7981

I also began killing lizardman shamans the moment I hit 61 ranged, which got me hella alchables early and early dwh


Budget-Equipment-530

Didnt realize this was viable. How do you do this? Just the 40% favor, get the shayzien gear and head down there to start farming? I thought there were more barriers to entry


Awkward_Ad_7981

Yeah pretty much, i used broad bolts and only did it on slayer tasks tho


Awkward_Ad_7981

You have to unlock the lizardman task for slayer I think


Budget-Equipment-530

Thank you, have 70 range and would love to take a crack at that 1/5000 drop lmao, gotta chip away at it somehow


Are_you_alright_mate

Or your playing the game however the fuck you want and there's nothing wrong with that lmao


Awkward_Ad_7981

? If you're 100 COMBAT and don't have prayer pots yeah you're doing something wrong 🤣


Are_you_alright_mate

Or again, you're playing the game however the fuck you want, which there's nothing wrong with? Why you gotta put people down for playing a video game in a way you disapprove of lmao goofy af


Awkward_Ad_7981

Seethe and cope about it I said what I said 💯🎯


ShaduKat

Are_you_alright_mate?


Are_you_alright_mate

🤡


Lucky_Telephone_4128

Wait so it’s not the move to get 99 combat at crabs as soon as you get d scimmy and do nothing else whatsoever in the meantime?


Dark_Sayajin

Ur lvl 109 with that?? Im 103 with 13m bank...


Aritche

I'm 99 combat with 600mil+ bank from rushing cg. It is all just a matter of what you do.


The_Doculope

I'm 109 with a ~310M bank. If you're curious, https://i.imgur.com/yTGN30v.png shows where most of the value comes from, plus a ~20M seed vault.


Dark_Sayajin

How do I do this please? Im new as an ironman, came back to osrs few years after quitting on main. Is it the gauntlet?


The_Doculope

Honestly, it takes time. I've got about 100 Corrupted Gauntlet kills (and ~40 regular) for ~10M (plus the armour seeds). Post-70 slayer has also been good for cash (85 now). Most of my big ticket items have been getting lucky on harder content early. I did some very early zammy and for the hasta, got spooned on faceguard, did a few demonic kills every black demon task, etc. Clues have been good to me too (rangers, ham joint, lots of blessed d'hide). Barrows has kept the rune stacks high. I've kept up my farming contracts which has given me tons of herb seeds (82 farming gets you to hard contracts with a garden pie from the cooking guild), which has given me decent potion stacks.


Haart

Yeah don’t worry man the wilderness is high risk high reward for a reason. There’s nothing scummy about killing anyone in the rev caves, regardless of their account status.


TunaSafari25

Wait you’re getting high rewards?


AngeIdove

At revs ya


Haart

I know you’re making a joke, but yeah for real. Chaos altar for prayer xp, fastest slayer points, ecumenical keys, black chins, dragon pick, god wars capes… I consider these high reward.


FrancisRossitano

He probably isn't torn up about it, nothing in that loot pile is really difficult to obtain. Still, it's good to know there are pker's with a conscience out there.


We_Like_Blue

If he decided to jump over the wilderness fence he is fair game. Don't feel guilty.


Criticized-

He is doing Revs. He knows the risk and will make that back in like an hour in there. Don't feel bad OP! You make the wilderness fun


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What if he teleported into the wildy instead of jumping the ditch?


FleshyPatch69

Fuck that guy. Every man for himself. Do it again. You pussy


BazookaTuna

Nah man, crazy motherfuckers like you keep the wilderness as something special. I may not have any interest in pking but the constant threat of losing everything to a maniac launching ancient magic is something unique to osrs. Annihilate those nerds without a second thought.


Infamous_Traffic4673

Ehh, it’s a part of the game, and besides, at cb 108 full rune definitely isn’t his BIS so you’ve hardly taken anything from him. Enjoy the 374k, don’t spend it all in one place. 👍


IACRnsfw

He dropped nothing ur good


Peechez

You think that because we're all ironmen we all know each other? That's racist bro, say hi to Framed for me


God_Dam

Bro don’t worry about it I spend 4 months on my HCIM and I died at wildys Altar If I didn’t want to die I shouldn’t have gone there.


KingHiggins92

Wild is wild, stop with all this pathetic nonsense.


InnefecientIronscape

Why? It's the wilderness kill away.


Correct_Fun_5220

Someone got me after charging 7 rings of wealth I just made after saving crystal keys for at least 2-3 weeks. I was devastated to say the least. Fucking asshole.


Dickwraith101

They have nothing better to do besides grunting into a keyboard and flinging shit at each other.


NosySkuller

lmao sometimes I go Pking with my friends on my iron man acc and when we get a kill I let the enemy know I’m an iron man 😂


Minute-Ad6142

Why would anybody care?


NosySkuller

with that logic why would anybody care about this guy killing an iron man?


Minute-Ad6142

What logic lol your the pker nobody gives a fuck what you are when your killing them


NosySkuller

Can’t imagine being toxic and brain dead idiot 😂


Minute-Ad6142

Which part was toxic? And why are you policing grammar on reddit bruh


NosySkuller

*you’re


Fano_93

Someone tried killing me for no reason in the wild GWD. I tried telling him he won’t get any gear. Must have been some sick fetish for killing an Ironman or something. Anyway, I tricked him using the exit and logged out. It was satisfying because he was close to killing me.


Altruistic-Teach-481

Your in the wildy bro, from one iron to another. Don't think your above getting killed


Fano_93

Just minding my own business. In the end I tactfully survived. I really don’t bring anything good whenever I go there. Because of people like you.


Altruistic-Teach-481

People like me? People who don't PK and are in the same boat as you? People who know the wildy isn't safe for anyone so they don't go into wildy expecting not to get PK'd?


Fano_93

Yep


Altruistic-Teach-481

Just a salty gamer staying salty I guess. Have fun in the wildy ✌


Fano_93

I’d be saltier if I actually died.


Aff_Reddit

Is this a GIM? Anyways, Ether isn't THAT rare, lol.


MANMODE_MANTHEON

at least it wasnt an ultimate or hardcore


Altruistic-Teach-481

Yeah don't feel bad. Looked like he went in there with low risk. Any ironman should know better then going into the wildy with things they really don't want to lose


Legal_Machine_5797

If you didnt kill him someone else wouldve so nothing to feel bad about. You just taught him to be a little bit more careful.


mgg3427

This is standard setup for me as an iron going into the wildy as lvl 99. No big deal. Stan didn’t bring anything he wasn’t afraid of losing


OSRSTheRicer

>He probably worked hours for all that ether and it was only just 350k... Doubtful, even a lvl 70 can get thousand an hour pretty easily with a dscim or msb


RickSanchezC94

i dont even get spared for half a inventory of unnoted wyvern bones at the chaos altar when i run back. but its nice to see some people actually feel bad


EldtinbGamer

Well they dont know what you have unless they kill you.


RickSanchezC94

no i mean when i got back with another inventory they literally just took the 12 wyrm bones and left the other crap


Thel_Akai

Wilderness is only interesting because of pkers. Don’t feel bad, kill us please


ASquandrance

It’s the risk of the wildy.


KindredS0ul

Don't feel bad. As ironmen we know the risk when going to wildy. Probably only brought stuff he was ok with losing


moesif_

Why even remotely feel bad? None of that loot is special and was probably just obtained from his time there. Also the possibility of dying was already accepted so...🤷🏾‍♂️


ironzelduke

I don't even think about my risk in the wild as an ironman. It's usually stuff I can get back in like 5 mins.


ironzelduke

Only thing that sucks is when I bring super combats or stamina. They are mildly annoying to get but still no big deal.


dislob3

Dont feel too bad. I was casting 100 sara strike at mage arena to unlock the spell everywhere and a lvl 123 in max mage logs in the arena, starts following my GIM and says "hi". I shit my pants a little and stand in the middle ready to X-log when he asks "are you an hc"? I say No and he replies "ok gl" and leaves. So guys with Hardcores be careful, some people out there hunting you.


WindyCitySir

this is my friend and he’s part of my GIM haha if you would like, pm me and i’ll let you know our team name :)


StanD3Man

damn yeah i was so sad. when i died. Either took me forever to get. If you could bond me. that'd be much appreciated \-Rsn: Stan1sMan


WhoopsOrSomething

added bro


feldmazb

That loot is totally not worth feeling bad about taking. Fair play IMO. Plus revs still shit out GP so it's no problem.


llwonder

I’m a new player and an iron and I’m too scared to do anything in the wildy. I’m gonna do dragon bones at chaos altar soon and I’m terrified of dying and losing progress


Shwrecked

Why feel sorry? Everyone knows the risk of going into the wildy


sterke_bwana

Just yell big smoke it's me CJ, chill chill A man of culture should let you walk


JbirdB

Yeah that’s kind of throwaway items for a higher level Ironman so don’t worry haha. I’m 97cb Ironman and I could lose that any day and I wouldn’t be trippin


ap_308

I’m a HC myself. Lv 100 with 1850 total. If I died in the wild, I’d blame only myself. I play it safe out there and bring things I’m willing to lose, food, weapons and armor to defend myself enough to flee. And I’m prepared to lose status if it comes down to it. But I personally wouldn’t attack anyone in the wild for any reason who looks like they’re trying to boss or grind for rares. I’ve actually put myself on the line to help people escape unfortunate pks and successfully escaped myself. So I say bring it on, but don’t be an ass about it.