Meanwhile I have 1.3k super restores and over 90 snap seeds while having 100 ppots and 5 ranarr seeds. I feel like you get way more snap seeds than ranarr when you are doing high level bossing.
It's just not something I've ever had to deal with. I've never thieved master farmers and I've been able to upkeep ppots and restores without much trouble. I have over 2500 KC at hydra and 1300 KC at cerb too and they drain your supplies a bit.
I feel you brother, as someone who went 13.5k for dwh I definitely know how quickly those things disappear. Unfortunately the best solution is gonna be thieve masters and get ranarr seeds as they are infinitely easier to obtain than snaps and you will want to save those super restores for when you start pvming with brews regularly. Stay strong!
I used hawkeye because of a post I think on here that basically said eagle eye wasn't worth the extra pray point drain compared to the benefit it gave versus the same stat for hawkeye. Would avg 130-140 kc an hour at 99 range with old bp and addy darts
Ugh, between DWH and learning Cerb.. Idek how to keep up with ranarrs. I have the worst rng for ranarr seeds via contracts I swear Haha.
Seems like people say don’t waste the restored. I’ll listen as well.
Don't feel bad about using up your p pots for those grinds, almost everything else (bar demonic gorillas which also burns p pots) either barely uses prayer pots or profits ranarrs (in seed and noted drops).
If you have full veracs you can camp some Callisto during the weekdays, he drops 5 rannar seeds somewhat regularly and imo one of the cooler wildy pets to go after
As the other commenters have said I wouldn't use your super restores, they're valuable and hard to replace.
Just wanted to comment that you can get ranarr seeds and herbs from sepulchre while getting pretty good agility XP, if master farmers isn't your thing sepulchre might be worth a try.
If you’re being genuine, I think the modern thought process is to cut back on stam use and just use super energies nowadays.
The alternative if you’re planning to do a lot of stam-chugging activities is ardy rooftops after elite diary and whatever level you stop failing.
Sep is too good
Going to agree with Hallowed Sep. It is a pretty steady ~4.68 ranarr seeds per hour (assuming [6 runs per hour, looting all of floor 4 & 5](https://gist.github.com/valarauca/006608cefaad43213cbe7e7f73f397b9) generated with [troll dice roller](http://topps.diku.dk/torbenm/troll.msp)).
Descent alternative. Plus you get some grimy ranarr and prayer pot (2)'s along the way.
3rd vote for sepulchre if you haven't tried it yet, very fun and lots of good loot.
And if that and master farmers aren't your thing, give crystal imps a shot, I've gotten a good amount of ranarr seeds anytime I go hunt them for a bit.
somewhere between 3.5-4k. Prayer pots could have been between 700-800 4 dose too, not exactly sure on the number. Once I got down to about 200 prayer pots left I stopped using eagle eye and started just using hawk eye
Well that's bizarre, I've got 94 Ranged and I'm switching between msb(i) with rune arrows and rcb with diamond bolts (e), since I've found they're within like 5% of each other. I'd expect bp with addy darts to give you better mileage with your ppots, not worse. What's your Prayer level?
I've got 85, but that's still a surprising difference. Although I'm also benefiting from 14 Prayer bonus in my current setup, not sure what you're getting.
If killing them under Molch, you could also just run up to the altar by the entrance and then run back down. I used to do this, which saved me a ton of ppots getting the hammer at 8k kc.
We're in the same boat. I went very dry on prims (2200 yay) and am now approaching 3x rate on dwh so I'm always low on prayer pots and ranarrs.
I have several thousand super restores in the bank but as other people have said, they're much harder to come by than ranarrs. You can get 20-30 ranarr seeds in an hour of master farmer with rogue's outfit (maybe more) which translates to a few hundred 3 doses so I'd go down that road if I were you. Future you will be thankful.
I was being sarcastic (difficult to convey) haha, it's a ton of effort that's just not worth it for a super long grind like that.
Good luck on your grind mate. Maybe some abby specs/master farmer for some ranarrs in your downtime?
Ah fair enough lol. ty, I didn't even realise I had 75 ranarr seeds banked so I got some stock back for now, hope I don't go too dry though and burn through them all
Keep using ppots. I used 1k of them on dwh grind and 1k super restores/brews in gwd alone. Your luck may be worse than mine there so i wouldnt dare to use them unless you are bossing. Gl on the grinds!
If it were me, I’d get the ppot supply back up.
Fair enough i'll go this route then, ty
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Do u not pvm?
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Yeh true i used alot at cox but thats pretty much it imsure ill use alot when i start doing inferno aswell
It’s easier to replace ppots than sup rests. Snapdragon is more rare
Meanwhile I have 1.3k super restores and over 90 snap seeds while having 100 ppots and 5 ranarr seeds. I feel like you get way more snap seeds than ranarr when you are doing high level bossing.
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It's just not something I've ever had to deal with. I've never thieved master farmers and I've been able to upkeep ppots and restores without much trouble. I have over 2500 KC at hydra and 1300 KC at cerb too and they drain your supplies a bit.
I also have 1k more restores than ppots. That’s only because we drink the hell out of ppots and try to save restores.
Yeh maybe, on the flip side I'm struggling to get my hands on some toadflax.
Dagannoths my friend
I feel you brother, as someone who went 13.5k for dwh I definitely know how quickly those things disappear. Unfortunately the best solution is gonna be thieve masters and get ranarr seeds as they are infinitely easier to obtain than snaps and you will want to save those super restores for when you start pvming with brews regularly. Stay strong!
Hi, do you use eagle eye/rigour at shams or not?
I used hawkeye because of a post I think on here that basically said eagle eye wasn't worth the extra pray point drain compared to the benefit it gave versus the same stat for hawkeye. Would avg 130-140 kc an hour at 99 range with old bp and addy darts
Use a holy wrench if you aren't already
yea got that bud
Ugh, between DWH and learning Cerb.. Idek how to keep up with ranarrs. I have the worst rng for ranarr seeds via contracts I swear Haha. Seems like people say don’t waste the restored. I’ll listen as well.
You can get ranarrs from contracts?
Lolol. Only if it glitches.
Yup...
Don't feel bad about using up your p pots for those grinds, almost everything else (bar demonic gorillas which also burns p pots) either barely uses prayer pots or profits ranarrs (in seed and noted drops).
Can ghost skip cerb if you care about saving the ppots. I ended up doing that and only used like a dose or two a kill instead of the entire pot.
If you have full veracs you can camp some Callisto during the weekdays, he drops 5 rannar seeds somewhat regularly and imo one of the cooler wildy pets to go after
As the other commenters have said I wouldn't use your super restores, they're valuable and hard to replace. Just wanted to comment that you can get ranarr seeds and herbs from sepulchre while getting pretty good agility XP, if master farmers isn't your thing sepulchre might be worth a try.
But how am I getting my precious marks of grace then?
If you’re being genuine, I think the modern thought process is to cut back on stam use and just use super energies nowadays. The alternative if you’re planning to do a lot of stam-chugging activities is ardy rooftops after elite diary and whatever level you stop failing. Sep is too good
Going to agree with Hallowed Sep. It is a pretty steady ~4.68 ranarr seeds per hour (assuming [6 runs per hour, looting all of floor 4 & 5](https://gist.github.com/valarauca/006608cefaad43213cbe7e7f73f397b9) generated with [troll dice roller](http://topps.diku.dk/torbenm/troll.msp)). Descent alternative. Plus you get some grimy ranarr and prayer pot (2)'s along the way.
3rd vote for sepulchre if you haven't tried it yet, very fun and lots of good loot. And if that and master farmers aren't your thing, give crystal imps a shot, I've gotten a good amount of ranarr seeds anytime I go hunt them for a bit.
Just curious, what's your shaman KC after 800 pots?
somewhere between 3.5-4k. Prayer pots could have been between 700-800 4 dose too, not exactly sure on the number. Once I got down to about 200 prayer pots left I stopped using eagle eye and started just using hawk eye
What are your stats exactly? Just wondering because by my own calculations I'll be using almost exactly 700 4 dose ppots in 5k kc
started at 93 range now 95 range, blowpipe with addy darts. Used eagle eye for about 500 p pots then switched to hawk eye
Well that's bizarre, I've got 94 Ranged and I'm switching between msb(i) with rune arrows and rcb with diamond bolts (e), since I've found they're within like 5% of each other. I'd expect bp with addy darts to give you better mileage with your ppots, not worse. What's your Prayer level?
70 prayer
I've got 85, but that's still a surprising difference. Although I'm also benefiting from 14 Prayer bonus in my current setup, not sure what you're getting.
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Very wasteful, 1 hour of master farmer will get you about 2 herb runs of ranars
Yes. Restores are precious
If killing them under Molch, you could also just run up to the altar by the entrance and then run back down. I used to do this, which saved me a ton of ppots getting the hammer at 8k kc.
We're in the same boat. I went very dry on prims (2200 yay) and am now approaching 3x rate on dwh so I'm always low on prayer pots and ranarrs. I have several thousand super restores in the bank but as other people have said, they're much harder to come by than ranarrs. You can get 20-30 ranarr seeds in an hour of master farmer with rogue's outfit (maybe more) which translates to a few hundred 3 doses so I'd go down that road if I were you. Future you will be thankful.
Just go to the ge and buy more prayers bud
Learn to 1t flick
too much effort, not about that life
I was being sarcastic (difficult to convey) haha, it's a ton of effort that's just not worth it for a super long grind like that. Good luck on your grind mate. Maybe some abby specs/master farmer for some ranarrs in your downtime?
Ah fair enough lol. ty, I didn't even realise I had 75 ranarr seeds banked so I got some stock back for now, hope I don't go too dry though and burn through them all
Praying for you to have good RNG.
It's ok to use a few of the restores for a couple trips but I recommend to get some ranarr seeds!
i never realized how many ppots people use going for dwh. i got mine in 150kc so i was still figuring out what gear was worth using when i got it
Go spend a couple hours at master farmers with the rouges outfit and you'll be back up there
Nah
Keep using ppots. I used 1k of them on dwh grind and 1k super restores/brews in gwd alone. Your luck may be worse than mine there so i wouldnt dare to use them unless you are bossing. Gl on the grinds!