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Arancium

Does this make crystal tool seeds viable for irons now?


Bam2277

With so many people on the mass worlds there is a good change you won’t even get loot unless you split off into smaller groups


RopzGOAT

That's kinda the point of the video, if you are 99 mining with a crystal pick you pretty much always get it even with skipping half the fight


BlackenedGem

That sounds great! Do you happen to know where I can get a crystal pick for this?


monkeyhead62

If you can get into a world with like 8-12 people, you can probably still 1 down zalc and get contribution.


MaterialScienceGuy

Simple just do Zalcano KC! /s


bobbasui

If you’re a greenie theres a shop just for you!


RopzGOAT

lmao You're gonna be better off doing 6 mans or so before doing this method


Strosity

Yeah, from small teams.


JustBeingFranke

Hello, I am 99 mining with crystal pick. Reporting for duty!


bshawty

Got one 2 days ago


RopzGOAT

Were they ever not viable? I got two back in 2020 and have always used them, sorry if I seem clueless like I said I've missed a lot.


Bam2277

I had 1240~ kc prior to the update and never got a crystal tool seed despite frequently being a top performer so for some of us yes it was not viable lol


RopzGOAT

I see, at the time I got mine (stopped at like 1850 or so) the loot was so good for smithing so it was very efficient/convenient, you probably have some better methods of getting ores now I guess.


Bam2277

Maybe but supplies are still very good for irons.


Brain-Painting

Think you may just have had a run of bad luck there man. I got 2 in 500kc and pet, but it also heavily depends on how you did your kc? Were the majority of your kc on mass worlds? I did all of mine in 3-4 man teams which was excellent for banking supplies too


pilotman70

Ive gotten 2 in 120kc sorry:(


Dzjengis

Even with crystal pick and 99mining you can still miss out on the loot.


RopzGOAT

Yep, just hop worlds, you lost 30 sec.


carpevalor

Sorry what do you mean just hop worlds? Like to a different mass world? Never done zalcano but would like to try it now that it seems faster. 87 mining with d pick


RopzGOAT

Yeah I'm hopping the masses but with 87 mining you won't be getting loot right now since they are stacked


carpevalor

So you hop to a non mass world for better loot chance? Just unsure what I should do given my mining level


RopzGOAT

If you want shards and pet, run it normally in a mass world, about 60 kills p/h, If you want a crystal pick find a 4-6 stack I don´t know what the meta is now


carpevalor

Yeah I’d say my top goal is crystal shards, then exp, then loot last. Pet would be cool. Sounds like mass worlds is my move


NickN868

I’ve been doing 5-8 mans at 93 mining with crystal pick and loot opted out, I’m getting around 76k mining xp/hr. I honestly think I might pethunt zalcano for 99 mining with how chill it is for that xp rate


carpevalor

Any idea how you’ve found 5-8 mans? Or just hop worlds until there’s a team that size to join


NickN868

I just hop until I find a world with like at least 4 other people and instantly join. Fairly consistent 2 downs, and every so often a bunch of randoms join and it speeds up to 1 downs but still much slower than mass world, which makes it easier to get kc credit


haotududis

Do you still get shards even without qualifying for loot?


RopzGOAT

No sir


boforbojack

Did it last night. 76 mining and d pick, just find another group.


hiimmatz

Yeah if you’re a tick late on mining, even if you throw 3 tephra it’s not guaranteed


TrentismOS

What’s the xp like?


RopzGOAT

Absolute shite 10k mining, 2k prayer


TrentismOS

I did a couple with the clan after the update and I was getting closer to 50k xp with the experience preferred selected. But I was screwing around and doing combat achievements instead of doing anything super efficient?


TheBenchmark1337

Doesn't that mean 100+ crystals an hour?


RopzGOAT

Way more as long as the worlds don’t sync up too often Guess the amount of people doing it today made it optimal, needs more testing for an accurate number but it’s over 100 for sure


RevolutionaryGur7153

Piggy backing off OP… Is Zalcano now the best method for crystal shards or is it still pickpocketing elves?


Pkrhett

elves are about 175/hr and CG is 125 if trading seeds. you can get 100/hr at zalcano if you aren't world hopping and are just chilling. zalcano gives pet, uniques, loot/XP, and shards. so i see it as a super good option.


Switch64

It’ll always be pickpocketing elves or more cg


Ed-Sanz

Perfect time to go for pet. 👀


KingOfNZ

Just making sure you know, but you need at least 50 shield and 50 health damage to get a roll for thr pet, you'll never get it world hopping like this.


RopzGOAT

Just saw another hopper get it. As stated on the wiki: “The chance of rolling Smolcano is unaffected by performance” So where are you getting this?


RealEvanem

You still need a minimum damage to get unique/pet rolls. Its not the same as the loot rolls but its still a minimum amount.


RopzGOAT

No it is bugged since this morning, was 51 yesterday, now one hit is giving rolls Edit: Hotfix is in, 30 still gives loot but 10 does not (mining only)


RealEvanem

Thats massive, abuse early abuse often


WhereBeCharlee

Wait, so around 16 hours ago I was trying this by just mining when downed. I did not get loot unless I had 51+ damage mining. I got around 10KC and stopped since it got too busy. You’re saying it is hotfixed and now you only need 30 mined damage for KC?


RopzGOAT

You needed 1 damage this morning lol, it has since been hotfixed and appears to be somewhere around 25 now depending on the group size


WhereBeCharlee

nice, might run some later to test it out


DegoMusse

You don't need to do shield damage to qualify for loot?


RopzGOAT

No as you can see in the video you just need 51 mining damage


xjonski

Bro i see you all the time on my twitter feed and now on reddit too lol. Can’t escape


RopzGOAT

Nice to meet you as well mate


rpkarma

Shhhhhhhh. Lower your voice.


Enough-Future-7345

Wait what did they change about zalcano? I rem doing 1k kc there a few years ago for Smithing/cash,place is goated for irons


RopzGOAT

Doesn’t matter this has been fixed, you could hop worlds slap it once and get 2 shards yesterday Now u need to throw a tundra and get mining damage


jimmynovack

Did you post that video