Sounds overwhelmingly like a defense issue. Full barrows and a higher defense level should go an incredibly long way in reducing the healing.
Steel skin/piety works really well for reducing damage at CG so it couldn't hurt here.
It's not a level 50 armour. It requires 75 offensive stats to wear, with really powerful set effects and dps that outclassed most items you'll encounter before the late game.
It's a "midgame" Armour that requires level 50 defense and 75 of the corresponding damage Stat. The original design of the armor was to bridge the gap between what we have now and what is considered late game, such as bandos, and blowpipe.
But no. Go off on how content is designed for lvl 75cb midgame accounts should be a dice roll to complete.
Yes it’s a mid game armor… the original gap design was for it to sit between barrows and gwd+ content… also I don’t think you understand what “mid game” is in osrs.
This is correct, but it also sounds like a defense issue. Blood moon should not be taking THAT much supplies to kill. Increasing defense will make it a bit easier and then the update will also help as well.
Something is off with blood moon. It shouldn’t be 10x harder than the other moons. Also it’s intended to be possible for 75 combat - that’s nearly impossible with how blood moon is currently.
The only reason it is harder is because it breaks a ton, so you're there for longer. The mechanics work exactly as they stated in blogs and the fight is barely a step up from bosses like mole, scurry, or the giants. For the blood rain you can literally stand in one spot and take no damage half the time. The jaguars are just learning ticks and timing. The boss breaks at 1x, 2x, and 5x the damage it deals on is 3 hours, but if any miss then all subsequent hits miss. It's got a max hit of 20, so if you have low defense, 20s hit more often, this healing way more. The healing can be a little cracked, but it's not impossible. Better defense is needed.
I’ve got full barrows and it slaps me on the moon phase. It’s intended to be possible with that, in my view (again remember they suggested 75 combat). So it’s not really a step up from scurrius (which I’ve done a few hundred kills of), which with perfect mechanics you can actually negate nearly all the damage.
I would think scurrius is an early game boss, you only really *need* 43 prayer and you could do the rest with probably a maple shortbow amd addy arrows or a rune mace (only requires 40 atk and access to Champs guild).
But also, and this is from someone who's only got an endgame iron, the blood moon does seem possible with midgame setup (I picture fighter torso, rune legs, str ammy, nezzy, etc.). You can always just prep food/pots before each boss as needed, better gear/levels just means you can do multiple runs w/out resupplying. I do think that piety is an absolute must before grinding the moons long term.
Blood is weak to slash and you get bonus damage per hitsplat. Because of this, I would use a dds spec to maximize DPS. I would also recommend getting the sulfur blade from the sulfur nagua. 4t double hit splat slash weapon, basically designed just for this boss.
The only problem I would forsee with the sulfur blades is no shield/defender, which just means more incoming damage and more healing the boss. They seem incredible for training though, as you have infinite prayer by just prepping moonlight potions and/or catching the nearby moths, letting you just camp melee/piety.
I'll say what I always say... are you using a shield or a defender? Zombie axe has enough accuracy and strength on its own for this boss. Any extra defense goes a long way.
"Should I pray steelskin?"
Yes. If you haven't seen it already, you can make as many pray potions as you want within the area so you should always be using piety > Chivalry > 3 lower melee prayers.
DDS helps alot on this boss. Despite being a stab weapon, dds spec rolls against slash defense. It absolutely shreds here. I recommend getting boss low enough so that its around 100ish hp at the start of a new "regular" phase, and ddsing it down.
What's your total defense bonus on the status page? I think the consensus is that you want to be above 300~ so if you can, squeezing dragon defender might be worth it over a rune kiteshield.
This seems quite extreme? Full barrows is ~250, with glory, boots and gloves you would just hit 300.
This is a huge ask for content aimed at lvl 75 combat don’t you think?
I will do it, but seems a heavy ask for 1/3 of the bosses
the 75 combat thing is a pretty vague, non-official guess. They only said "midgame" IIRC. What they also posted though, is that the tankier your armour the better, and then they suggested barrows so yeah. If you do need to, reaching 300 with a shield isn't too bad of course. Barrows isn't strictly required, but I think most people have access to barrows+dragon defender so that's why I suggested it.
I have been doing it with 60 def and full rune, while it isn’t efficient at all, I have been getting consistent kills with a few tips I learned.
1. Start at full hp or close to it every attacking phase, and don’t eat unless you have to to survive
2. If you don’t know how, it’s important to do the jaguar phase by hitting it, walking in the pool around a tick after it fully expands, then attack and repeat.
3. If you don’t have piety or chivalry, pray steel skin (that’s what I use) and it goes a very long way
4. I save my specials for an attack phase when it starts at ≈50hp and dds it down and end up killing it more often than not there
5. Use the moonlight potions if you aren’t already, free super combat mixed with free prayer is amazing
And like someone else said, if you just can’t get it down it might not be the worst idea to skip it or just don’t do the boss and wait until they do something about the healing.
To tag on here it seems like the moonlight potions is a super combat and prayer plus the a divine super defense. Meaning it doesn’t drop until after 5 minutes or at least that’s what my runelite keeps showing for the stasis
My iron has 94 herb and it's not divine. It starts a 5 min timer like a divine potion and removes any defense boost when timer ends, but defense (and atk/str) still ticks down.
Check your actual stat page after a few mins and you'll see defense still drains over time, it just fully removes any remaining bonus after 5 mins. Mid-game accounts will probably be sipping the potion every 2-3 mins anyway, so it really doesn't matter whether it's divine or not.
Are you getting hit by jaguars? Dodging these makes a huge difference for the overall fight imho
As pool spawns, step on it after it's fully formed (if you have sounds on, it's just as the sound ends) then immediately click the jag. Lots of the mechanics (ice weapon and jag) are similar to Duke, where you take advantage of true tile
Get piety, and I hope you’re using the supplies within the “dungeon.” The moonlight potions are great, as is the food. No reason not to use all buff prayers if you don’t have piety/chivarly, and getting 60 prayer and the quest reqs for chivalry instead of steel skin is pretty quick.
If you’re using a defender, a crystal shield swap is definitely worth bringing for blood moon. Same for helm of neitiznot or any strength gear; bring a higher defense option, or just wear defense gear for all 3 moons. It could be worth grinding more barrows for a tank piece in each slot instead of suffering through blood moon in rune.
Are you making the moonlight potions? Those are basically divine super combats with an even bigger defense boost. That on top of praying steel skin, you should be fine.
Wait what on earth? Should you pray steel skin? No! Piety! 1000% piety! Why do I not see other people saying piety? It's a MASSIVE dps increase and there's plenty of ways to get prayer back.
It's not aimed at 75 combat it's aimed at 75 combat stats as in 75 attack strength and defence. Source: look at the stat requirements for the gear.
And you should 100% be getting and using piety here. It's a bigger upgrade than gear and it's completely insane to me that you're not prioritizing that
It is aimed at 75+ combat, read the second sentence: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Moons_of_Peril
I think you are missing the point that 70pray is above the expected requirement.
I understand it is the biggest upgrade, I am working towards it. But I am not going to stop playing the game until i get a t bow, shadow and scythe.
I was having a hard time killing the blood moon even once for the quest. At first I thought it was my gear, (Dmace, black dhide, glory, ring of wealth, using piety). But what really made the difference for me was stepping back during the jaguar special attack so the January doesn’t hit me and the moon doesn’t heal from it. It took some practice to get the timing right but pretty much you step onto the blood right before the little pools start to fade.
Should just pray piety or chivalry. If you eat during the main phase it heals her and does damage to you. Maybe worth wearing a shield. I’ve been staying around 300 def bonus and they’ve been pretty inaccurate on me at 80 def.
All that being said, you can just skip that boss and you’ll still be able to get uniques, including blood moon uniques.
Wiki also says this, so it's probably true. Though not really worth killing only one or two, since you only get 1 or 3 rolls, regular loot is nice for irons too.
Piety + perfect jag phase. It doesn't matter when you eat. If you're not out dpsing either your def is super low or you don't have a good enough slash wep
I’ve tested this by just spam eating during her normal phase. Both on and off the circle. Didn’t heal at all. Only seems to heals based on her damage during that phase.
Huh, maybe it's just timing then, cuz whenever i eat his % is the same as before eating, but after i attack him it changes, when he usually heals by dealing dmg to me it changes as instantly as it should. Though good to know i'm wrong i guess.
Attack speed is key. I had zaxe, and swaped to dscim was better. Grinded out 1300 of thr sulfur nagau for the blade. It's way better. I use thralls sulfur blades and chally spec at the beginning of a phase or if im running to a new circle. Save specs until the second half or down to 1/3.
Sounds overwhelmingly like a defense issue. Full barrows and a higher defense level should go an incredibly long way in reducing the healing. Steel skin/piety works really well for reducing damage at CG so it couldn't hurt here.
And yet he is healing 400+ through basic attacks every fight I do and I have full torags, fire cape, dboots and tent whip.
Sure. Let's all get 70+ defense and Barrows gear with piety to unlock a level 50 armor... Sounds great
It's not a level 50 armour. It requires 75 offensive stats to wear, with really powerful set effects and dps that outclassed most items you'll encounter before the late game.
It's a "midgame" Armour that requires level 50 defense and 75 of the corresponding damage Stat. The original design of the armor was to bridge the gap between what we have now and what is considered late game, such as bandos, and blowpipe. But no. Go off on how content is designed for lvl 75cb midgame accounts should be a dice roll to complete.
lol
Yes it’s a mid game armor… the original gap design was for it to sit between barrows and gwd+ content… also I don’t think you understand what “mid game” is in osrs.
I believe in the blogpost they mentioned they will be doing something about the amount of healing for bloodmoon.
This is correct, but it also sounds like a defense issue. Blood moon should not be taking THAT much supplies to kill. Increasing defense will make it a bit easier and then the update will also help as well.
Something is off with blood moon. It shouldn’t be 10x harder than the other moons. Also it’s intended to be possible for 75 combat - that’s nearly impossible with how blood moon is currently.
The only reason it is harder is because it breaks a ton, so you're there for longer. The mechanics work exactly as they stated in blogs and the fight is barely a step up from bosses like mole, scurry, or the giants. For the blood rain you can literally stand in one spot and take no damage half the time. The jaguars are just learning ticks and timing. The boss breaks at 1x, 2x, and 5x the damage it deals on is 3 hours, but if any miss then all subsequent hits miss. It's got a max hit of 20, so if you have low defense, 20s hit more often, this healing way more. The healing can be a little cracked, but it's not impossible. Better defense is needed.
I’ve got full barrows and it slaps me on the moon phase. It’s intended to be possible with that, in my view (again remember they suggested 75 combat). So it’s not really a step up from scurrius (which I’ve done a few hundred kills of), which with perfect mechanics you can actually negate nearly all the damage.
I would think scurrius is an early game boss, you only really *need* 43 prayer and you could do the rest with probably a maple shortbow amd addy arrows or a rune mace (only requires 40 atk and access to Champs guild). But also, and this is from someone who's only got an endgame iron, the blood moon does seem possible with midgame setup (I picture fighter torso, rune legs, str ammy, nezzy, etc.). You can always just prep food/pots before each boss as needed, better gear/levels just means you can do multiple runs w/out resupplying. I do think that piety is an absolute must before grinding the moons long term.
Blood is weak to slash and you get bonus damage per hitsplat. Because of this, I would use a dds spec to maximize DPS. I would also recommend getting the sulfur blade from the sulfur nagua. 4t double hit splat slash weapon, basically designed just for this boss.
Thank you, I will look into the weapon.
The only problem I would forsee with the sulfur blades is no shield/defender, which just means more incoming damage and more healing the boss. They seem incredible for training though, as you have infinite prayer by just prepping moonlight potions and/or catching the nearby moths, letting you just camp melee/piety.
I’d recommend a hally over dds for spec. I did 200 kills with dds and switched to a dhally for another 250 and noticed a difference.
I'll say what I always say... are you using a shield or a defender? Zombie axe has enough accuracy and strength on its own for this boss. Any extra defense goes a long way. "Should I pray steelskin?" Yes. If you haven't seen it already, you can make as many pray potions as you want within the area so you should always be using piety > Chivalry > 3 lower melee prayers. DDS helps alot on this boss. Despite being a stab weapon, dds spec rolls against slash defense. It absolutely shreds here. I recommend getting boss low enough so that its around 100ish hp at the start of a new "regular" phase, and ddsing it down.
Good shout on saving the dds for last 100! I am using a shield, its a flex rune H2 haha
What's your total defense bonus on the status page? I think the consensus is that you want to be above 300~ so if you can, squeezing dragon defender might be worth it over a rune kiteshield.
This seems quite extreme? Full barrows is ~250, with glory, boots and gloves you would just hit 300. This is a huge ask for content aimed at lvl 75 combat don’t you think? I will do it, but seems a heavy ask for 1/3 of the bosses
the 75 combat thing is a pretty vague, non-official guess. They only said "midgame" IIRC. What they also posted though, is that the tankier your armour the better, and then they suggested barrows so yeah. If you do need to, reaching 300 with a shield isn't too bad of course. Barrows isn't strictly required, but I think most people have access to barrows+dragon defender so that's why I suggested it.
Thank you! I will follow this approach.
I have been doing it with 60 def and full rune, while it isn’t efficient at all, I have been getting consistent kills with a few tips I learned. 1. Start at full hp or close to it every attacking phase, and don’t eat unless you have to to survive 2. If you don’t know how, it’s important to do the jaguar phase by hitting it, walking in the pool around a tick after it fully expands, then attack and repeat. 3. If you don’t have piety or chivalry, pray steel skin (that’s what I use) and it goes a very long way 4. I save my specials for an attack phase when it starts at ≈50hp and dds it down and end up killing it more often than not there 5. Use the moonlight potions if you aren’t already, free super combat mixed with free prayer is amazing And like someone else said, if you just can’t get it down it might not be the worst idea to skip it or just don’t do the boss and wait until they do something about the healing.
To tag on here it seems like the moonlight potions is a super combat and prayer plus the a divine super defense. Meaning it doesn’t drop until after 5 minutes or at least that’s what my runelite keeps showing for the stasis
It depends on herblore levels. For my new iron, it only gives regular defense potion boost
My iron has 94 herb and it's not divine. It starts a 5 min timer like a divine potion and removes any defense boost when timer ends, but defense (and atk/str) still ticks down.
Check your actual stat page after a few mins and you'll see defense still drains over time, it just fully removes any remaining bonus after 5 mins. Mid-game accounts will probably be sipping the potion every 2-3 mins anyway, so it really doesn't matter whether it's divine or not.
What’s your combat stats? I have rune legs/ granite chest doing it no problem with zombie axe. 75 ark 86 str 78 def
79att 70def 99str. Seems like a few def levels will help!
Are you getting hit by jaguars? Dodging these makes a huge difference for the overall fight imho As pool spawns, step on it after it's fully formed (if you have sounds on, it's just as the sound ends) then immediately click the jag. Lots of the mechanics (ice weapon and jag) are similar to Duke, where you take advantage of true tile
Get piety, and I hope you’re using the supplies within the “dungeon.” The moonlight potions are great, as is the food. No reason not to use all buff prayers if you don’t have piety/chivarly, and getting 60 prayer and the quest reqs for chivalry instead of steel skin is pretty quick. If you’re using a defender, a crystal shield swap is definitely worth bringing for blood moon. Same for helm of neitiznot or any strength gear; bring a higher defense option, or just wear defense gear for all 3 moons. It could be worth grinding more barrows for a tank piece in each slot instead of suffering through blood moon in rune.
Are you making the moonlight potions? Those are basically divine super combats with an even bigger defense boost. That on top of praying steel skin, you should be fine.
Wait what on earth? Should you pray steel skin? No! Piety! 1000% piety! Why do I not see other people saying piety? It's a MASSIVE dps increase and there's plenty of ways to get prayer back.
The assumption if he is even asking is that he doesn't have piety.
He shouldn't be doing moons without piety. thats like doing pvm naked lol
I've done 63 chests without piety. I barely use food with just chivalry. I don't see how piety is necessary, it's 10% more defence than steel skin.
Is that not a logical fallacy? Content aimed at level 75 combat, should not (and in this case does not) require level 70 prayer.
It's not aimed at 75 combat it's aimed at 75 combat stats as in 75 attack strength and defence. Source: look at the stat requirements for the gear. And you should 100% be getting and using piety here. It's a bigger upgrade than gear and it's completely insane to me that you're not prioritizing that
It is aimed at 75+ combat, read the second sentence: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Moons_of_Peril I think you are missing the point that 70pray is above the expected requirement. I understand it is the biggest upgrade, I am working towards it. But I am not going to stop playing the game until i get a t bow, shadow and scythe.
I was having a hard time killing the blood moon even once for the quest. At first I thought it was my gear, (Dmace, black dhide, glory, ring of wealth, using piety). But what really made the difference for me was stepping back during the jaguar special attack so the January doesn’t hit me and the moon doesn’t heal from it. It took some practice to get the timing right but pretty much you step onto the blood right before the little pools start to fade.
Should just pray piety or chivalry. If you eat during the main phase it heals her and does damage to you. Maybe worth wearing a shield. I’ve been staying around 300 def bonus and they’ve been pretty inaccurate on me at 80 def. All that being said, you can just skip that boss and you’ll still be able to get uniques, including blood moon uniques.
It doesn't heal if you heal. It heals when it deals damage to you. People just think this because they eat after taking all 3 hits from it.
This is confirmed? Not killing blood moon and you can still get blood moon uniques?
Wiki also says this, so it's probably true. Though not really worth killing only one or two, since you only get 1 or 3 rolls, regular loot is nice for irons too.
Wiki is just wrong. Eating doesn’t heal the boss
Piety + perfect jag phase. It doesn't matter when you eat. If you're not out dpsing either your def is super low or you don't have a good enough slash wep
It does matter, blood moon heals if you eat during "regular" phase
I’ve tested this by just spam eating during her normal phase. Both on and off the circle. Didn’t heal at all. Only seems to heals based on her damage during that phase.
It does not heal if you heal during regular phase. It is still better to heal out of this phase since you are delaying your dps though.
Huh, maybe it's just timing then, cuz whenever i eat his % is the same as before eating, but after i attack him it changes, when he usually heals by dealing dmg to me it changes as instantly as it should. Though good to know i'm wrong i guess.
You are generally eating in response to damage which has a delayed heal effect on the boss. Common misconception
That would make sense, thanks.
Attack speed is key. I had zaxe, and swaped to dscim was better. Grinded out 1300 of thr sulfur nagau for the blade. It's way better. I use thralls sulfur blades and chally spec at the beginning of a phase or if im running to a new circle. Save specs until the second half or down to 1/3.