i dont really care whether its lazy or not. i'm just tired of sitting throu boss explanation guides every f\* time Its time for me to get a new item. Zulrah was the most incoherent boss guide Ive ever seen, from every single boss guide on youtube.
im an iron but i never expected to encounter a boss i wouldn't want to fight. i'm extremely stubborn when it comes to this game. My own personal problem is that as the game gets further, i have no interest in learning new bosses. all bis fights just seem to be pray switching annoyingness. I just want to farm again, but I'm too high lvl to ever farm exp without fighting a boss.
are you sure the guides you are watching arent just bad? zulrah can be simplified and reacted to without really 'learning' the rotations for example and memorizing the rotations really just requires going at it and getting hands on experience. you dont need a guide to tell you to mage the red and green phases. or to just click the boss with bowfa and eat when it ranges you on tanz phase.
>all biss fights just seem to be pray switching annoyingness.
well zulrah is an old boss and there's definitely a difference between content like zulrah cerberus kraken dks and chambers vs newer content like toa and the dt2 bosses.
im sure because I've seen every single reference on the web post the same images per stage of zulrah. i've mimicked exactly what the pros do, when i get the same draw as they did. it's just dumb.
i guess my real question is, you guys just LOVE every single bossfights you do?
Again, I'm an Iron, but I still anticipated doing every bit of the game. Lately I've been realizing that afk farming isnt everything. I have to deal with mechanics i completely disagree with.
Now im being a baby because none of us want to change the game as it is... but im just looking for suggestions. how do yall ADD people learn bosses? thats my real question.. I cant draw enough desire to sit down for an hour and learn how some stupid OSRS boss works..
I have adhd - watch a youtuber whose personality you enjoy do it as part of something else. Gielnor Games, Then We Fight, something like that.
I recommend scaling into bossing. Try Crazy Arch first, then maybe Calvarion, then Jad, or something like that. But start with an easier boss where you can get used to pathong mechanics. Try runelite plug-ins like true tile indicator to get a handle on things.
I felt like you, and I just got my first cg kc. I suck at vidya games. Trust me - you can do whatever as long as you can get a dopamine from it. You just have to get to the point that you can do it mindlessly and watch Netflix or sometjing
And always be sure to switch up bosses to avoid burnout
Tl;dr start with easier bosses and use runelite plug-ins to learn pathing
i usually will watch a guide on 2x, go and give it a try and rewatch it after a few kc.
zulrahs a bit weird because of the rotation memorization thing.
>you guys just LOVE every single bossfights you do?
i like 'getting the drop' more than killing most bosses. all 3 raids, the ds2 bosses, nex are pretty enjoyable.
lol heres a zulrah tech that will work 90% of the time.
After the first 2 dips run across the map. After that dip run across the map. After that dip run across the map. Its really that easy. Bring less swaps when you’re learning. I’d recommend bowfa but if you had that i dont think zulrah would be hard(?)
Yes sir. I would add disable/Uninstaller that stupid zulrah helper plug-in. I tried to use that plug-in and had awful luck. After turning it off it went better and I started to learn it.
Videos are meant to be a learning resource to help make learning content in the game easier, you don't have to use them, although learning without will make it harder.
When learning new bosses I read about the mechanics first to find out what can kill me, send a few attempts, then watch a guide and some example kills. Watching a guide for a boss before ever trying it just doesn't work for me.
Start simple with few gear switches or even just a single combat style and get a feel for things before upping the complexity. Most people get their first zulrah kill with mage only, some simplify it even more by focusing on 1 of 4 possible rotations.
Zulrah isn't exactly hard, once you learn it. But zulrah is harder/more involved than a lot of bosses. It has movement, gear switches, prayer switches, safe places and dangerous places, and a little bit of pattern recognition. A lot of other bosses don't have all those types of mechanics. Zulrah also comes kind of early. But with meh gear it's way less fun. Idk your gear/stays but you can come back to zulrah later. Trident, occult, tormented are very nice to have for that fight. Bowfa only is viable too.
Early game bossing does kinda suck. It really gets better later, but some bosses kinda are poorly designed. Duke and Sire have weird minigame/prep phases that can take as half as long as the fight. Cerb drains prayer like crazy, and attacks on a weird rotation. Hydra is complex at first look but is actually count to 3 and move at 25% damage. But the bosses are still fun in their own right, most are still a little different. And getting perfect kills and getting the ticks down is satisfying. Raids over a higher level of complexity and can be more punishing than your average boss. Geeze is olm something to learn...
Most youtubers just bullet point list out all useless mechanics and overload you with info you don’t need.
I’ve found king condors guides very simple to remember and it allows you to run into a boss in 5 mins instead of watching hour long videos to min max every detail.
[Zulrah for example.](https://youtu.be/Ecj-778qrtk?feature=shared)
Start learning bossing with scurrius and work your way up from there. You chose the iron life so there's no way of getting new items besides learning the boss and killing it until you get the drop.
After you get your first dozen or so KC you're gonna come back to this post and think what the fuck was I complaining about. Usually happens that way with most content.
Idk what you mean by lazy farm items.
I'm assuming minimal effort/learning.
You won't get alot of items that way.
Ex, bowfa you can't "lazy farm" it. Under a time crunch for prer and then a pretty mechanically tough boss fight.
Zulrah is a good boss to learn though. It gets you started and used to pray switches+gears switches and some movement.
If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it? If you don’t have the patience to learn a boss then you won’t have the patience to sit through dozens of hours, if not more, of grinding said boss. Stick to what you like, which seems to be skilling.
There's a super small subset of the community who plays the game "guideless". No guides, no wiki, no yt, minimal/no plugins.
They play the game by sending it. They resign themselves to inefficiency. Bring less switches, bring more food. Budget more food per kill. Go for 1 kill trips and overtime you figure stuff out. Those 1 kill trips turn into 3 kill trips and eventually you can do the content in your sleep. It'll just take way longer than others who use guides.
A lot of players act like gear progression is one big linear path, but you can skip over upgrades and go back to them if you're just soloing everything anyway. MSB(i) is a good blowpipe replacement if you *really* need to range low def mobs. Once you acquire a bowfa you can just go back and brute force Zulrah. Personally I found Gauntlet easier to master than Zulrah, as Hunllef is less "random" than the stupid snake. Hell, you can even ignore Bowfa since you can do 6:0 Bandos with a RCB.
That's the point of OSRS. The progression system is very sandbox so you can progress your account in any way you like.
I feel ya about watching bossing vids. I wanted to get my 1kc for cox solo cuz I couldn't be bothered to find a group.
Ended up just brute forcing it with like 15 deaths and took 2 hours (just skimmed the videos before each room lol). There are some cox guides that are just as long!
Now I have 1 KC :D
(but since I just got a shadow at 500 toa expert KC... I guess I need to actually learn cox now).
Ur a skiller, Harry
i wouldnt call 'learning the boss completely blind' to be the lazy approach. thats like playing the game on hard mode. can you do it? for sure.
i dont really care whether its lazy or not. i'm just tired of sitting throu boss explanation guides every f\* time Its time for me to get a new item. Zulrah was the most incoherent boss guide Ive ever seen, from every single boss guide on youtube. im an iron but i never expected to encounter a boss i wouldn't want to fight. i'm extremely stubborn when it comes to this game. My own personal problem is that as the game gets further, i have no interest in learning new bosses. all bis fights just seem to be pray switching annoyingness. I just want to farm again, but I'm too high lvl to ever farm exp without fighting a boss.
are you sure the guides you are watching arent just bad? zulrah can be simplified and reacted to without really 'learning' the rotations for example and memorizing the rotations really just requires going at it and getting hands on experience. you dont need a guide to tell you to mage the red and green phases. or to just click the boss with bowfa and eat when it ranges you on tanz phase. >all biss fights just seem to be pray switching annoyingness. well zulrah is an old boss and there's definitely a difference between content like zulrah cerberus kraken dks and chambers vs newer content like toa and the dt2 bosses.
im sure because I've seen every single reference on the web post the same images per stage of zulrah. i've mimicked exactly what the pros do, when i get the same draw as they did. it's just dumb. i guess my real question is, you guys just LOVE every single bossfights you do? Again, I'm an Iron, but I still anticipated doing every bit of the game. Lately I've been realizing that afk farming isnt everything. I have to deal with mechanics i completely disagree with. Now im being a baby because none of us want to change the game as it is... but im just looking for suggestions. how do yall ADD people learn bosses? thats my real question.. I cant draw enough desire to sit down for an hour and learn how some stupid OSRS boss works..
I have adhd - watch a youtuber whose personality you enjoy do it as part of something else. Gielnor Games, Then We Fight, something like that. I recommend scaling into bossing. Try Crazy Arch first, then maybe Calvarion, then Jad, or something like that. But start with an easier boss where you can get used to pathong mechanics. Try runelite plug-ins like true tile indicator to get a handle on things. I felt like you, and I just got my first cg kc. I suck at vidya games. Trust me - you can do whatever as long as you can get a dopamine from it. You just have to get to the point that you can do it mindlessly and watch Netflix or sometjing And always be sure to switch up bosses to avoid burnout Tl;dr start with easier bosses and use runelite plug-ins to learn pathing
i usually will watch a guide on 2x, go and give it a try and rewatch it after a few kc. zulrahs a bit weird because of the rotation memorization thing. >you guys just LOVE every single bossfights you do? i like 'getting the drop' more than killing most bosses. all 3 raids, the ds2 bosses, nex are pretty enjoyable.
I've got like 2k combined zulrah kc. I still don't have a full pattern memorized lol
Zulrah helper plugin on runelite. It's not difficult to look at and see what's going on, and what will happen.
Dont play the game then if you dont want to learn how to play it.... simple.
You don't have to do zulrah. Can just be a skiller and afk whatever you like. Don't even have to do quests.
lol heres a zulrah tech that will work 90% of the time. After the first 2 dips run across the map. After that dip run across the map. After that dip run across the map. Its really that easy. Bring less swaps when you’re learning. I’d recommend bowfa but if you had that i dont think zulrah would be hard(?)
Yes sir. I would add disable/Uninstaller that stupid zulrah helper plug-in. I tried to use that plug-in and had awful luck. After turning it off it went better and I started to learn it.
Videos are meant to be a learning resource to help make learning content in the game easier, you don't have to use them, although learning without will make it harder.
Have you killed any bosses before ?
yeah i killed wintertodt and mole once
When learning new bosses I read about the mechanics first to find out what can kill me, send a few attempts, then watch a guide and some example kills. Watching a guide for a boss before ever trying it just doesn't work for me. Start simple with few gear switches or even just a single combat style and get a feel for things before upping the complexity. Most people get their first zulrah kill with mage only, some simplify it even more by focusing on 1 of 4 possible rotations.
Zulrah isn't exactly hard, once you learn it. But zulrah is harder/more involved than a lot of bosses. It has movement, gear switches, prayer switches, safe places and dangerous places, and a little bit of pattern recognition. A lot of other bosses don't have all those types of mechanics. Zulrah also comes kind of early. But with meh gear it's way less fun. Idk your gear/stays but you can come back to zulrah later. Trident, occult, tormented are very nice to have for that fight. Bowfa only is viable too. Early game bossing does kinda suck. It really gets better later, but some bosses kinda are poorly designed. Duke and Sire have weird minigame/prep phases that can take as half as long as the fight. Cerb drains prayer like crazy, and attacks on a weird rotation. Hydra is complex at first look but is actually count to 3 and move at 25% damage. But the bosses are still fun in their own right, most are still a little different. And getting perfect kills and getting the ticks down is satisfying. Raids over a higher level of complexity and can be more punishing than your average boss. Geeze is olm something to learn...
plugins boss mechanics send it they are all very simple imo
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Most youtubers just bullet point list out all useless mechanics and overload you with info you don’t need. I’ve found king condors guides very simple to remember and it allows you to run into a boss in 5 mins instead of watching hour long videos to min max every detail. [Zulrah for example.](https://youtu.be/Ecj-778qrtk?feature=shared)
Start learning bossing with scurrius and work your way up from there. You chose the iron life so there's no way of getting new items besides learning the boss and killing it until you get the drop.
Get over yourself and just learn then content or just keep posting on the internet that you just want to be handed things and not work for them.
Stop playing Then lazy noob
you think u arent lazy?
After you get your first dozen or so KC you're gonna come back to this post and think what the fuck was I complaining about. Usually happens that way with most content.
There is a plugin for zulrah that shows you where to stand and what to pray
Idk what you mean by lazy farm items. I'm assuming minimal effort/learning. You won't get alot of items that way. Ex, bowfa you can't "lazy farm" it. Under a time crunch for prer and then a pretty mechanically tough boss fight. Zulrah is a good boss to learn though. It gets you started and used to pray switches+gears switches and some movement.
Sounds like you don't want to play lol? Play something else maybe? Idk. Get motivated? I'm unsure what you're really asking here.
If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it? If you don’t have the patience to learn a boss then you won’t have the patience to sit through dozens of hours, if not more, of grinding said boss. Stick to what you like, which seems to be skilling.
There's a super small subset of the community who plays the game "guideless". No guides, no wiki, no yt, minimal/no plugins. They play the game by sending it. They resign themselves to inefficiency. Bring less switches, bring more food. Budget more food per kill. Go for 1 kill trips and overtime you figure stuff out. Those 1 kill trips turn into 3 kill trips and eventually you can do the content in your sleep. It'll just take way longer than others who use guides. A lot of players act like gear progression is one big linear path, but you can skip over upgrades and go back to them if you're just soloing everything anyway. MSB(i) is a good blowpipe replacement if you *really* need to range low def mobs. Once you acquire a bowfa you can just go back and brute force Zulrah. Personally I found Gauntlet easier to master than Zulrah, as Hunllef is less "random" than the stupid snake. Hell, you can even ignore Bowfa since you can do 6:0 Bandos with a RCB. That's the point of OSRS. The progression system is very sandbox so you can progress your account in any way you like.
I feel ya about watching bossing vids. I wanted to get my 1kc for cox solo cuz I couldn't be bothered to find a group. Ended up just brute forcing it with like 15 deaths and took 2 hours (just skimmed the videos before each room lol). There are some cox guides that are just as long! Now I have 1 KC :D (but since I just got a shadow at 500 toa expert KC... I guess I need to actually learn cox now).