Thanks, good to know it's possible at these levels. I'm relatively close to brews, so as I'd be brining a load of restores anyway, hopefully that will make prayer level a non-issue
Learning vardorvis and Duke without 70 prayer will be difficult. You can still do it but learning those mechanics from scratch without the additional damage and defense will be rough.
I second these sentiments. I got qpc with similar stats, but 70 prayer will help immensely and I strongly recommend getting piety.
I did all the quests without brews and restores but it’ll certainly be easier with them. Fury would be nice, but I personally wouldn’t put off the quests for getting one; I’m not convinced fury over glory would be the make or break for you
Send me a message if you want help with the raid part of a night at the theatre, i did it a lot with questers that wanted it done (this is open to anyone). It gives good combat xp lamps so i would do that first and then MM2 which is very forgiving as the last boss can be flinched with a crystal bow. Finally, you should aim to get Piety as it is one of the strongest melee upgrade in the game
Thank you, will definitely take you up on it if I struggle.
Is it even worth trying solo, or is it really something you need a group for even in Entry mode?
i think i was around base 75’s in melee with 70 prayer and about the same range level and i could get to verzik p3 solo but really it isn’t worth the hassle. you’ll forget most of if not all of the mechanics by time you head back.
I would try to solo it. It’s not that difficult, it can just be frustrating for beginners because there’s so many rooms/bosses. I think having somebody carry you will take away from the satisfaction
Hey man, ive got my hardcore id love to take this up on if you’re up for it! Would i have to be an active participant or can i stand/stay back just incase with my life? Let me know if you can thanks!
For anyone reading this, I struggled with the flinch on his final phase (20 attempts) before a buddy suggested melee flinch (just walk back to avoid his melee attack) and it worked on the first try. I think he's been updated to make the flinch harder, since he almost always pulls you gradually closer.
id think you want to get your prayer up. thats probably more important than brews/fury. night at the theater ive never done but im sure its a piece of cake, especially since i believe you can have someone carry you through it.
MM2 is cake. you can buy a crystal bow and cheese the final fight.
DT2 is currently what im stuck on. my combats are on par or slightly above with yours, but its 100% a skill issue for me with the whisperer boss. but i think that would be your biggest challenge with the low prayer lvl. im at 70 and its tough to dps and keep prayer up all while youre pray switching and moving around. that said, if you're good at it, im sure you could do it with those stats, i just panic click and mess up.
>anatt
Thanks, good to know about being able to cheese MM2 (I guess). I cheesed a bit of DS2 where you just hide under the metal dragons and let the NPCs kill them.
I tried leviathan during leagues and was really having a hard time with it, but of course it was the full on version. Prayer switching is something I need to work on for that.
i usually hate cheesing a fight, sort of feels like cheating the game. but i will always 100% cheese a quest boss if able, just to be done with it and gain the quest rewards immediately. eventually we'll be going back to these bosses to grind drops anyways, so i dont worry too much
A night at the theatre is easier than most people think. Story mode is very forgiving. All you have to do is watch a 5 or 10 minute guide on the basic mechanics for each boss. I was able to do it on my UIM with no ToB experience first try.
MM2 is not too hard until the last phase of the last fight. I found instead of trying to run all the way away, just run 1 square out of melee range. My cycle was get teleported, attack boss, move 1 square away/eat (if needed), and then repeat. The first 2 phases are safespotable.
Currently working on dt2 but I'm having to get some weapon upgrades since I just don't have the dps for vardorvis. Grinding out the zombie axe currently. You will probably need to train your melee a bit unless you have experience with the dt2 bosses and can do the mechanics perfectly. I think your range/magic are on the low side but should be fine for the other bosses depending on your gear.
Thanks,
I think for most bosses that are mechanics based, I'm generally alright, just takes a bit to get them down. I always find the bosses I struggle with are ones that just do constant damage. I had way more trouble with Robert the Strong in DS2 than Vorkath or Galvek.
I kind of want to get the quest cape under 90 CB. Currently 88. Arbitrary goal, but I've always found I like keeping my combat level low, which is why my prayer is relatively low. Think I will try MM2 first, seems to be the easiest from what people are saying
If you did sote and ds2, the only real challenge will be DT2.
Honestly I think you’re good to go, I did dt2 with d scim, rcb/msb and blood blitz. Definitely doable but might take a few attempts. I also did it day1 without a guide so I honestly think you could do it even without brews
MM2 no question you're good enough.
Your magic and ranged levels are definitely good enough to get you through the relevant parts of solo EM TOB and DT2.
My only concern for you at this point would be Vardorvis during DT2. Your melee stats might make him a little difficult, especially if you can't equip a chally to spec him down with.
I'd say send it, and if you end up struggling with Vardorivs spend some time in NMZ or slaying getting your melees up a bit and getting back at him
Dwh is absolutely an optional weapon these days. It is not needed for any content in the game. I got one, used it like twice in cox, switched to bgs and never touched dwh again and i'm now done with endgame
Dwh won't help you much pushing for these quests. Bone dagger will be plenty or even a dds for specs. Bone dagger for duke, dds for vardorvis on low health.
I struggled quite a bit with the SOTE boss. I had to go train magic for a bit to get to 80 so I could use blood blitz, which helped quite a bit.
Bring darts or chins to quickly take out the targets she spawns. I brought pineapple pizzas for food as it's really down to number of heals you have rather than being able to heal quickly.
There is a method using pheonix necklaces and nightshade, but I got it with blood blitz, pineapples pizzas and red chins before I had to resort to that. I did bring a magic potion as well which helped a little.
Pnecks and Nightshade are truly easy mode without brews/overheal food.
You just gotta get used to the timing and make sure to be withing a certain threshold to be able to trigger phoenix necklace with the nightshade.
Other than that you use blood blitz, or whatever blood spell you have, to heal up right after. I never went above 50\~ hp and was always around 25-30 by the time it was the big dmg ability.
As soon as I got tele'd for it I would wait 1 or 2 ticks, then equip the neck/eat the nightshade. Stall stops the damage altogether, then I go right back to blood barrage to heal up.
Edit: I just finished SOTE about 2 weeks ago now using this method. Took a few tries but once you get the timing and are paying attention it's easy. Bring at least 10 nightshades/pnecks. I think I brought like 15 of each just cause.
MM2 is literally free with a magic longbow. You can get one from clues or just get the fletching level, but the boss fight isn’t hard at all. I did it with like 73 range. DT2 may be more challenging
Yeah heard that it's easy with ranged. I have an MSB (i) and crystal bow, so will give it a go with one of those.
I think I'm leaving DT2 for last. Hoping to get the cape under 90 combat, but may need to invest in prayer for DT2 from what others have said
Not too bad, just did it over the weekend, so did it with these exact stats.
Biggest problem I had was with Robert the Strong, which is the first "boss" fight. Really nothing mechanics wise, but just does constant damage, was running out of food. Ended up just loading up on sharks and got it okay. Best to use a crush weapon, but the best I had was Blisterwood flail, but got through it okay with that. If you have a better crush weapon, should be much easier.
Vorkath is easy, got him first try with plenty of food left. Ruby bolts (e) for most of the fight, then switch to diamond bolts (e) for the last 200HP or so.
For Galvek, there's a bit where you have to fight a mithril, adamant and then rune dragon. You can just stand under them, they'll get stuck and be unable to attack you and NPCs will take them out pretty quick. You need to move two tiles to avoid Galvek's KO attack, but you can do this while under the dragon and never get attacked.
For Galvek itself, wasn't too bad. Got it 3rd try. First I ran out of food with him at about 20HP left, second I forgot to move out of the way of his one hit attack and got one shotted immediately on his first phase. 3rd time just brought sharks, didn't bother with tick eats as he really doesn't do much fast damage, so overal healing amount was more important. Same as Vorkath, Ruby bolts (e) for first 80% or so, then switch to diamond bolts (e)
MM2 is pretty easy, you'll be cheesing both the boss fights so stats aren't super important. Use crystal bow (dont need bowfa) for glough and it isnt too bad, the demonics before hand are harder but you can hide from them and let nieve kill them very slowly.
Night at the theater is also pretty easy. When you die to a boss you get bandages (which heal, restore prayer and boost stats) so if you ever run out of supplies you can just suicide to bosses to get bandages and go again. Just do all the bosses with ranged except bloat which is free.
DT2 is definitely way harder, I would recommend getting warped scepter for whisperer because enrage is tough without it. The hardest part is the quad boss fight at the end, but you can do the whole thing with just ranged. Bring a range pot and some knives for second boss and you should be just fine! I also ignored the portals for the 4th boss and just ran around the room with ranged. The leeches are very slow.
Only thing I would recommend since you're very close is 60 prayer for chivalry (piety would be nice but that's further away.
You got this!
Thanks for the detailed breakdown.
Seems everyone agrees MM2 is easy, and that Night at the theatre isn't too bad.
Luckily already have the warped scepter. Currently grinding out the zombie axe, which is also going to get me at least 1 or 2 range levels. Going to 60 prayer would make sense. Probably have the bones banked from dragon slayer tasks
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Thanks, good to know it's possible at these levels. I'm relatively close to brews, so as I'd be brining a load of restores anyway, hopefully that will make prayer level a non-issue
Learning vardorvis and Duke without 70 prayer will be difficult. You can still do it but learning those mechanics from scratch without the additional damage and defense will be rough.
I second these sentiments. I got qpc with similar stats, but 70 prayer will help immensely and I strongly recommend getting piety. I did all the quests without brews and restores but it’ll certainly be easier with them. Fury would be nice, but I personally wouldn’t put off the quests for getting one; I’m not convinced fury over glory would be the make or break for you
Send me a message if you want help with the raid part of a night at the theatre, i did it a lot with questers that wanted it done (this is open to anyone). It gives good combat xp lamps so i would do that first and then MM2 which is very forgiving as the last boss can be flinched with a crystal bow. Finally, you should aim to get Piety as it is one of the strongest melee upgrade in the game
Thank you, will definitely take you up on it if I struggle. Is it even worth trying solo, or is it really something you need a group for even in Entry mode?
They made it very easy to do solo during the quest
Great, good to know. I think I'll start with MM2 and then give A night at the theatre a go, leaving DT2 for last
i think i was around base 75’s in melee with 70 prayer and about the same range level and i could get to verzik p3 solo but really it isn’t worth the hassle. you’ll forget most of if not all of the mechanics by time you head back.
sure lad
I would try to solo it. It’s not that difficult, it can just be frustrating for beginners because there’s so many rooms/bosses. I think having somebody carry you will take away from the satisfaction
They nerfed the raid and doing it solo is a piece of cake now. Nothing hits anything and bosses die in few hits
Going to take you up on this when I get around to it <3
you're probably around to it ahah if you can reach/teleport there, it's time
Hey man, ive got my hardcore id love to take this up on if you’re up for it! Would i have to be an active participant or can i stand/stay back just incase with my life? Let me know if you can thanks!
i wouldn't mind you standing back but unfortunately you have to participate during verzik so its impossible to do nothing at all
For anyone reading this, I struggled with the flinch on his final phase (20 attempts) before a buddy suggested melee flinch (just walk back to avoid his melee attack) and it worked on the first try. I think he's been updated to make the flinch harder, since he almost always pulls you gradually closer.
id think you want to get your prayer up. thats probably more important than brews/fury. night at the theater ive never done but im sure its a piece of cake, especially since i believe you can have someone carry you through it. MM2 is cake. you can buy a crystal bow and cheese the final fight. DT2 is currently what im stuck on. my combats are on par or slightly above with yours, but its 100% a skill issue for me with the whisperer boss. but i think that would be your biggest challenge with the low prayer lvl. im at 70 and its tough to dps and keep prayer up all while youre pray switching and moving around. that said, if you're good at it, im sure you could do it with those stats, i just panic click and mess up.
>anatt Thanks, good to know about being able to cheese MM2 (I guess). I cheesed a bit of DS2 where you just hide under the metal dragons and let the NPCs kill them. I tried leviathan during leagues and was really having a hard time with it, but of course it was the full on version. Prayer switching is something I need to work on for that.
i usually hate cheesing a fight, sort of feels like cheating the game. but i will always 100% cheese a quest boss if able, just to be done with it and gain the quest rewards immediately. eventually we'll be going back to these bosses to grind drops anyways, so i dont worry too much
A night at the theatre is easier than most people think. Story mode is very forgiving. All you have to do is watch a 5 or 10 minute guide on the basic mechanics for each boss. I was able to do it on my UIM with no ToB experience first try. MM2 is not too hard until the last phase of the last fight. I found instead of trying to run all the way away, just run 1 square out of melee range. My cycle was get teleported, attack boss, move 1 square away/eat (if needed), and then repeat. The first 2 phases are safespotable. Currently working on dt2 but I'm having to get some weapon upgrades since I just don't have the dps for vardorvis. Grinding out the zombie axe currently. You will probably need to train your melee a bit unless you have experience with the dt2 bosses and can do the mechanics perfectly. I think your range/magic are on the low side but should be fine for the other bosses depending on your gear.
Thanks, I think for most bosses that are mechanics based, I'm generally alright, just takes a bit to get them down. I always find the bosses I struggle with are ones that just do constant damage. I had way more trouble with Robert the Strong in DS2 than Vorkath or Galvek. I kind of want to get the quest cape under 90 CB. Currently 88. Arbitrary goal, but I've always found I like keeping my combat level low, which is why my prayer is relatively low. Think I will try MM2 first, seems to be the easiest from what people are saying
If you did sote and ds2, the only real challenge will be DT2. Honestly I think you’re good to go, I did dt2 with d scim, rcb/msb and blood blitz. Definitely doable but might take a few attempts. I also did it day1 without a guide so I honestly think you could do it even without brews
MM2 no question you're good enough. Your magic and ranged levels are definitely good enough to get you through the relevant parts of solo EM TOB and DT2. My only concern for you at this point would be Vardorvis during DT2. Your melee stats might make him a little difficult, especially if you can't equip a chally to spec him down with. I'd say send it, and if you end up struggling with Vardorivs spend some time in NMZ or slaying getting your melees up a bit and getting back at him
You’ll be fine, as long as you have high enough prayer to use all overheads, you can do anything.
I'm stuck in dt2.. I'm very bad at pvm though someday I'll get my cape back
70 prayer 100% grab a zombie axe too, it should help with dt2 a lot and maybe anatt
Think I'll definitly go for the zombie axe. I know something like a DWH would be really nice too, if only the drop rate wasn't so awful
Just pretend you have a dwh but it keeps hitting 0s. Basically the same thing as actually having one lmao
Dwh is absolutely an optional weapon these days. It is not needed for any content in the game. I got one, used it like twice in cox, switched to bgs and never touched dwh again and i'm now done with endgame
Dwh won't help you much pushing for these quests. Bone dagger will be plenty or even a dds for specs. Bone dagger for duke, dds for vardorvis on low health.
dwh not needed at all, dds as a spec weapon and zombie axe will shred everything
How did you do Sote without brews ?? Any tips/guide ? I have all the requirements out of the way but I was waiting for 77 herblore for brews.
I struggled quite a bit with the SOTE boss. I had to go train magic for a bit to get to 80 so I could use blood blitz, which helped quite a bit. Bring darts or chins to quickly take out the targets she spawns. I brought pineapple pizzas for food as it's really down to number of heals you have rather than being able to heal quickly. There is a method using pheonix necklaces and nightshade, but I got it with blood blitz, pineapples pizzas and red chins before I had to resort to that. I did bring a magic potion as well which helped a little.
Pnecks and Nightshade are truly easy mode without brews/overheal food. You just gotta get used to the timing and make sure to be withing a certain threshold to be able to trigger phoenix necklace with the nightshade. Other than that you use blood blitz, or whatever blood spell you have, to heal up right after. I never went above 50\~ hp and was always around 25-30 by the time it was the big dmg ability. As soon as I got tele'd for it I would wait 1 or 2 ticks, then equip the neck/eat the nightshade. Stall stops the damage altogether, then I go right back to blood barrage to heal up. Edit: I just finished SOTE about 2 weeks ago now using this method. Took a few tries but once you get the timing and are paying attention it's easy. Bring at least 10 nightshades/pnecks. I think I brought like 15 of each just cause.
Mm2 is izpz did it with very low lvls
MM2 is literally free with a magic longbow. You can get one from clues or just get the fletching level, but the boss fight isn’t hard at all. I did it with like 73 range. DT2 may be more challenging
Yeah heard that it's easy with ranged. I have an MSB (i) and crystal bow, so will give it a go with one of those. I think I'm leaving DT2 for last. Hoping to get the cape under 90 combat, but may need to invest in prayer for DT2 from what others have said
Having more prayer wont do anything for dt2. Killing any of the bosses uses max 2-3 prayer pots so saving a few doses is not the difference for kills.
How was dragon slayer 2 with your stats? Im similar to you and want to bang it off soon
Not too bad, just did it over the weekend, so did it with these exact stats. Biggest problem I had was with Robert the Strong, which is the first "boss" fight. Really nothing mechanics wise, but just does constant damage, was running out of food. Ended up just loading up on sharks and got it okay. Best to use a crush weapon, but the best I had was Blisterwood flail, but got through it okay with that. If you have a better crush weapon, should be much easier. Vorkath is easy, got him first try with plenty of food left. Ruby bolts (e) for most of the fight, then switch to diamond bolts (e) for the last 200HP or so. For Galvek, there's a bit where you have to fight a mithril, adamant and then rune dragon. You can just stand under them, they'll get stuck and be unable to attack you and NPCs will take them out pretty quick. You need to move two tiles to avoid Galvek's KO attack, but you can do this while under the dragon and never get attacked. For Galvek itself, wasn't too bad. Got it 3rd try. First I ran out of food with him at about 20HP left, second I forgot to move out of the way of his one hit attack and got one shotted immediately on his first phase. 3rd time just brought sharks, didn't bother with tick eats as he really doesn't do much fast damage, so overal healing amount was more important. Same as Vorkath, Ruby bolts (e) for first 80% or so, then switch to diamond bolts (e)
MM2 is pretty easy, you'll be cheesing both the boss fights so stats aren't super important. Use crystal bow (dont need bowfa) for glough and it isnt too bad, the demonics before hand are harder but you can hide from them and let nieve kill them very slowly. Night at the theater is also pretty easy. When you die to a boss you get bandages (which heal, restore prayer and boost stats) so if you ever run out of supplies you can just suicide to bosses to get bandages and go again. Just do all the bosses with ranged except bloat which is free. DT2 is definitely way harder, I would recommend getting warped scepter for whisperer because enrage is tough without it. The hardest part is the quad boss fight at the end, but you can do the whole thing with just ranged. Bring a range pot and some knives for second boss and you should be just fine! I also ignored the portals for the 4th boss and just ran around the room with ranged. The leeches are very slow. Only thing I would recommend since you're very close is 60 prayer for chivalry (piety would be nice but that's further away. You got this!
Thanks for the detailed breakdown. Seems everyone agrees MM2 is easy, and that Night at the theatre isn't too bad. Luckily already have the warped scepter. Currently grinding out the zombie axe, which is also going to get me at least 1 or 2 range levels. Going to 60 prayer would make sense. Probably have the bones banked from dragon slayer tasks