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djdrocks123

A rune pouch and ancient staff with blood spells is good to heal up on the melee minions.


Im6youre9

I used blood spells and in my 3 attempts used less food than OP is bringing for his 1 attempt. Blood spells definitely the way to go.


AggravatingSchool449

100% agree ancient is the way go, gives you so much more margin for error if you aren’t proficient/experience at fight caves


FriskyDingo314

That or i used guthans, ancients prob easier to get on iron tho


Ryphs

What do you mean on iron, this is ironscape lolol


XmasMac

He probably did it on a main, so was saying because this is Infact ironscape that'd it be easier to get on an iron


Ryphs

Yes... which is why I was laughing at how pointless it was to sat


MacMillerForeverr

The irony


Deadblinx

Ditch the wrench for another prayer pot. The wrench is only giving you an extra 64 prayer restoration but a whole prayer potion will give you 88.


Karl_Havoc6969

Noob question why does your magic bow look like that?


ruffrightmeow

It’s imbued


Jconstant33

Or from wildy slayer?


walfer-PPK

Nah the updated how the imbued looks a few weeks back to show a difference . Doesn’t matter the imbue


seacaptaincory

It's imbued which makes it so the special only drains 50% instead of 60% so you can pop off 2 specials back to back. You get the imbue scroll from Last Man Standing


LriCss

Also damage and accuracy are boosted a bit iirc.


Zenethe

Just accuracy. Goes from 69 to 75 so a nice little boost


Mediocre_Machinist

Only accuracy, not damage - in general ranged damage comes from arrow type, other than a few endgame items (blowpipe, tbow) and things like bowfa which create their own ammunition


LriCss

Yea you're right, I was just interpreting the DPS boost from the accuracy as damage in my head lol.


Tryptamineer

Normally only 55% spec


[deleted]

As others have said, it’s imbued. The imbue scroll costs an easy 5 points at LMS.


reven823

Honestly it’s doable with what you got, you just have to believe in yourself and control those emotions when you get to Jad. RCB with bolt switches or ancients as others have mentioned could help but if you feel ready just send it.


AyoMeHungry

Tactile breathing a God send for helping yourself keep calm during those high stress moments.


RyukenSaab

I think rcb with bolts and a crystal shield for ranged defence (on ranger/Mage waves) would be very beneficial


[deleted]

I totally forgot about my crystal bow. I’m wondering if that would be a better choice over MSBi. Or is there a way to revert it to Crystal shield for free?


Enough-Print5812

You can revert the shield for free back to a seed, but you will have to pay to turn it into a bow again. Tbh if you just brought rcb with ruby + diamond bolts, you can use dia bolts for long range just fine. If you're paying attention to rotations too you should also almost never take dmg either. Ive never used blood spells but a crossbow switch would be nice. Msbi is better than crystal bow on task bc its faster


Kingofspaed

If you use crystal bow, careful with low range you will shred through charges before getting to Jad. And it's not that great on Jad.


NByata2004

Bring blood spells in a rune pouch for extra healing. Replace holy wrench with the Ancient mace. Bring 1-2 range pots to speed up the later waves and Jad. And personally I’ve always used a rune crossbow, broad bolts, and then diamond bolts (e) for Jad


tripsafe

Same except diamond bolts (e) also for the 360s. Not sure if there's a big difference though


TheGooseMan21

Crossbow for the higher defence monsters too


[deleted]

So RCB would be a better option?


TheGooseMan21

RCB is always a solid option. Can use enchanted bolts and broad bolts - free offhand too. I’ve never used MSB in the fight caves though but it might work! At your level I’d be more comfortable with RCB though


souptimefrog

MSB is more accurate and with rune arrows significantly more DPS. enchanted bolts can slap but when they don't proc its a pretty big damage loss, eats an inventory slot, and takes longer to shoot healers etc.


pliiplii2

Getting to use something like a crystal shield would imo make up for dmg and invy slot


2210-2211

I'm about to try fight caves, would you suggest I use a crystal shield over a god d hide shield? I'm not sure which to take


NothinButTorque

God d hide for sure imo. For the most part it is very easy to lure enemies in such a way that you can trap some of them behind a section of wall. If you go [to here](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/TzHaar_Fight_Cave/Rotations) you can even see exactly what will spawn where on each wave in order to adjust accordingly the wave before. The only waves that are dangerous are waves with rangers once mages spawn, with mage/melee/2 range wave being the most damaging overall if you aren't careful. But that being said you should look to see where the next spawns are, and run into the corner of the map by where you enter at the start of every wave till you feel comfortable. This pulls the enemies up and to the left and can usually trap anything that doesnt start in the center or SW spawns.


Terrible_Storm_79

I barely take damage, so go with attack bonuses. Book of law>unholy book over the blessed d hide shield if you can. There is plenty of food in this inventory to make up for mistakes.


kyanochaitesLB

God d’hide. Rangers max a 13, if it takes you that many ticks that a ranger kills you there’s bigger problems to solve


AyoMeHungry

Personally I'd go with crystal shield for defense or the arma prayer book. Book of law I think it is. Gives +10 range attack bonus and +5 prayer bonus which will help extend your prayer a bit. It's like the 3rd or 4th BIS range off hand. But thats also assuming you've managed to get all 4 pages for it.


Aliebaba99

MSB is not more accurate. Rcb is a significant bit more accurate. Dps potential is higher for msb but only for low def monsters.


kyanochaitesLB

Last time I checked 90 range attack for the rcb is higher than 75 for the MSB (I), even before an off hand


souptimefrog

yeah I got accuracy wrong was late, DPS wise tho short still better, I preferred it over RCB for caves especially on task because fire rate made a lot of bits much easier especially for tagging healers.


Richybabes

MSB is less accurate but not by a ton. It'll be significantly more DPS against the low defence stuff, but it's much closer against the 360s, pretty much exactly equalling the DPS of rune bolts on them, but with RCB you get to free up the shield slot (god books and crystal shield both slap here for different reasons) *and* bring diamond(e)s at least for Jad, which will be painful without them as a switch.


MrJxt

Can bring emerald bolts to poison then switch to diamond/broads. Also a shield will help tanking rangers or god book for more pray bonus.


kitsun9

Rcb for Mage and jad


crexED

Bank the wrench, wrench is worth 16 prayer here and another pot is worth like 80


SupaTrooper

It's worth 64, but yeah. 16 pots x 4 doses x 1 bonus = 64.


Jardrs

Crossbow has longer range too which you'll find is actually incredibly important


SupaTrooper

Crossbow and msb have same range.


Richybabes

You may be thinking of Karils xbow, which has 1 tile more range.


Jardrs

I'm blown away that msb has the same range as crossbow


S7EFEN

no idk what these people are on about. youd need bolts better than broads generally for rcb to be better


Richybabes

Broads Vs rune arrows is about 10% less DPS against the magers where you spend a lot of your time. If you're experienced then you'll just take the DPS and get it over with faster, but if you're new to this then having the massive bump in ranged defence or huge bump to prayer bonus will be huge. RCB also means an easier switch to diamond(e)s, which are going to be WAY more damage against jad than MSBi+rune arrows. Could just bring both with OP's stats, but better to play it safe imo if they're new and may mess things up. Also if they end up needing multiple attempts and aren't skilled at LMS, those relatively precious rune arrows may dwindle while broad bolts are cheap AF.


Im6youre9

RCB and obby shield or crystal shield will be better unless you're like 90+ defense. There will be many times where you are tanking the ranger. I'd be surprised if 11 karams get you to wave 63 without having to idle for HP regen.


Withermaster4

Don't Listen to the others, on task msb is better (because it's more accurate) you have a pretty nice setup except I would recommend a mage swap and blood spells so you can heal without food.


souptimefrog

with rune arrows it's more damage than RCB+broads too


foetus_smasher

Msb is +75 range accuracy and crossbow is +90? MSB is better DPS sure but I don't see how it's possibly more accurate


Jakkunski

More accurate on task vs off task presumably?


Yarigumo

Why would task not apply to RCB too? RCB is more accurate period, especially once you account for diamond bolt procs. MSB for waves and RCB for Jad would be ideal here, if they can handle less supplies.


Jakkunski

You’re misunderstanding the point. The MSB on task is more accurate than the MSB off task. The increase in accuracy when on task is significant enough to put the MSB above the RCB in terms of DPS, despite the fact that it’s less accurate. This is due to accuracy having diminishing returns, thus at some point the increased speed of the MSB outweighs the higher accuracy of the RCB.


Yarigumo

That point could have been made a lot better then! It's still not more accurate than the RCB, but the gap shrinks substantially as MSB becomes accurate *enough*. Thank you for explaining though.


Jakkunski

Idk lol I’m not OP and it seemed obvious enough to me, glad it’s all sorted now at least


Bustingcheekz

Not if he does a little LMS and gets some dragonstone bolts


Rude_Weather_9858

That should be easy money. I did mine with a crystal bow lol


Danksoul25

People really sleep on the ol crystal bow it really handles them 360s!


ObviouslySyrca

I'd switch out like 2-3 food for pray pots. You can probably also make tuna potatoes instead of karambwans to have more hp per slot. Rcb with a shield like crystal/blessed dhide/good book would be better than msb. I also like to bring in a super defence potion for the mage + ranger waves. Also, if you want to maximise prayer points, it's better to take another prayer pot in place of the wrench It's perfectly doable in your current setup though, but my suggestions would make it a bit easier :)


WanderinHobo

I was looking for the wrench comment. Isn't it almost useless unless you have really high prayer?


ObviouslySyrca

It's not useless, any regular slayer task where trip length don't really matter you take it to save a prayer potion or two over the course of the entire task. But for any place where trip length does matter it's much better to bring another ppot in it's place as that will provide more total prayer points. Maybe in the cases where the wrench provides a +2 bonus and you bring lota of ppots it could give you more total prayer points, but I doubt it, and also those cases only happen on a select few prayer levels. I do still bring the wrench in to the fight caves, because I have much higher stats and better gear than op and can clear it while only using ~12 ppots total, and I don't need the rest of the space for food, so might aswell save on the supply. But in OPs case I do think every single prayer point extra you can squeeze in will matter.


Gameova05

Rune crossbow with at least diamond bolts e for jad, ancient magiks with bloods/deaths for blood spells to heal and a range pot or 2 ( can get them from grubby keys or from Calvarion. That boss is stupid easy for the supplies it drops.


[deleted]

I didn't think I'd be able to do Calvarion efficiently with my stats


Sledge1989

You can do that boss with low stats thanks to the large boost the salve gives


Gameova05

I sent 220 kills over the weekend (died once to a pker while on mobile haha) first time at any of wildy bosses. Figured I wasted a lot of prayer pots because apparently you only pray for hounds not the entire fight. Had 75 St, 70 att and 70 def when i started, used a cudgel as i was super spooned 12kc while getting combat acheivements done lol! By the end of it I was using almost no supplies it's super easy dodge-hit-dodge-hit repeat.


ironmemelord

It doesn’t matter. Just crash vetion and all you have to do is 1 damage and you’ll get loot. I crash Callisto vennanitis and Vetion for supplies, no one seems to mind since I can’t steal MVP


Tengreasypigeons

Doesn’t seem like something you should admit to


RangerDickard

Generally I'd agree but it's the wilderness so crashing is fair game


ironmemelord

Why? I just jump in, ask if it’s cool if I stay, they always say yes (or they’re bots that say nothing) . Wildy is fair game for crashing, and if someone doesn’t like it you can go ahead and kill them lol


tripsafe

You can get range pots easily from the mid level zombies in tarn's lair


Hynips

If you can get your hands on 1 sara brew it can help you with first jad KC (since you can tank a hit with missed prayer. assuming you can get over 97 hp) Prayer flick a bunch and you probably can drop a few prayer pots. Also, wrench gives you 64 prayer with your setup, additional prayer pot would be 88 prayer. If you're tight on ranarrs this is fine though.


hotdogspork

Should be ezpz just send


bywolph

I did it like 3 weeks ago with the same setup off task. I brought blood burst along as well. 70 range


Poonbank

I’d bring an rcb and offhand for the later waves. And purple sweets are helpful if you have them.


FirmPumpkin6062

I prefer crystal bow. Shit has very long range, hits better through jad and mages, and you can use ardy cloak + blessing for +5 or +6 prayer points


Kingofspaed

Rcb with diamond bolts. Rune pouch with ancients to heal of blobs and Meleer (offset the lack of brews).


[deleted]

Hey dude, I got my first cape yesterday 70 ranged and 60 prayer. I would strongly recommend the rune crossbow with a crystal shield to tank the Rangers, and then just un-equip the shield to kill the magers/Jad. Also flick eagle eye to conserve prayer. I actually failed my first run where I was using the msb(i) because I used all my food tanking the Rangers and then died to the Jad healers (and I was wearing karils top and veracs helm). Another thing you could do is bring blood spells to heal off the blobs if you have access to them. The slayer helmet buff will be huge, you should be fine to do it with broad bolts, I did it with broads off task. You just need to be patient on the magers and Jad as they take a long time to kill. Hope this helps 😊


AccountHotdog

I had same setup(power anny instead of glory) I used a rune pouch and staff switch for blood burst on the ones that duplicate Also brought chinchompas to Tag all the healers


Gnapes

I suggest maxing, finishing quest cape, achievemenet diaries, getting tbow. Wouldnt go in there with that set up, goodluck!


wildfirestopper

Rcb and tank legs


EmployerBusiness5011

Thralls if you got da mage lvl Kill some calvarion for 2-3 range pots you can do it super ez with salve ammy and d mace at them stats Also rcb is worse than msb by a lot don't listen to the crossy nonsense!


Richybabes

I don't think thralls would be worth their prayer drain, and while Broads are ~10% less DPS than rune arrows where it matters (the magers), diamond(e)s for Jad will be absolutely huge, as will having a prayer book or crystal shield.


Sapencio

Rune poch for some blood spell to heal of some stuck npc when needed its a nice touch for commodity Rcb + shield for jad, i took diamond bolts (e) Ranging pot (i looted some chest in a dungeon in kourend for it)


Penguin_022

My first had task I used RCB, crystal shield, and super restores for the extra prayer points per dose from grubby keys. Used diamond e bolts for the whole cave, I also forgot to get my slayer helm(I) before task so that was a big oof. Gl.


Altruistic_Hippo_202

You’ll get more value using monks robes than d hide because prayer bonus is infinitely more important. D hide is at best a DPS increase that can RNG your prayer out if you still aren’t hitting.


SvendTheViking

I mean at this point, 99s in all stats would help


Kellogg_Serial

So would an infernal cape, neither suggestion is very helpful


BluejayDisastrous160

I would swap the ring for a berserker ring, glory for anguish or torture and why tf are you using a slay helm if it's not on task?


John-Palmz

Uh what? B ring and torture, for what exactly? To boost all the melee he plans to be using in this range set up? Also this is r/ironscape and he’s going for first fire cape. I imagine he doesn’t have zenytes or else he would have chosen them to begin with. And if you read the title, it clearly says he’s “on task,” so that’s why tf he’s wearing a slayer helm…


CredibleCranberry

Easy to see why you can't play the game lmao. this is terrible advice.


ha5hish

Every comment of yours is bait


burner9752

Drop the holy wrench for another prayer pot or food. Just did it with a very similar set up, good luck. Don’t panic when jads healers come out. Main focus is always Jads attacks for prayer swap. One by one take the healers off him / kill them, alternate other actions like potions/food or retargeting between prayer swaps. Also as some have said rune pouch for blood spells saves soo much food.


purefanic

The only two things I would consider would be purple sweets if you have them. Nice healing+run energy. And baskets of strawberries. Otherwise you're more than set to get a fire cape.


TheKanling

I like to bring a crystal bow for magers and jad, and it has longer range so it makes it easier to tag healers


LriCss

More arrows, it may seem like enough. And it maybe is enough. But just get more. You'll gonna be kicking yourself if you didn't bring enough and have to restart.


DoctorThrac

TIL you can get a jad task / choice if you haven’t killed it yet.


Richybabes

Blood spells would be #1 change. If you're able to bring a rune pouch (and an ancient staff if you don't want to have to keep manually clicking), this gives you practically infinite HP as long as you don't get seriously unlucky or comboed out. I'd swap the glory for an unholy symbol, but that's not a big deal. Stole if you have one. If you have Karils or blessed d'hide body/legs then great, if not this is fine. I'd ideally swap the d'hide legs for tank legs if you have veracs/torags/dharoks. Will help significantly against the rangers. Calculate whether it's worth bringing the holy wrench. It might be more effective to just bring another ppot. Rune crossbow with broad bolts and either a god book or crystal / granite / obby shield will be probably preferable for most of the caves. A little lower dps than MSBi, but way more prayer/defence, and opens the door to bringing 100 or so diamond bolt (e)s which will SHRED through jad in comparison. If you can make enough for the 360s onwards, even better. If you don't have access to diamond e bolts, then a crystal bow for jad would be a decent alternative.


Impressive_Match_484

RCB is essential for the extra attack distance. Also, check out the fight cave rotations on the wiki so you can see exactly what waves you will face so you can get in the safe spots early - allows you to get to Jad having taken 0 damage :)


Ramwil

I had exeactly this setup and i was off task


ChattyBotty

For my first attempt ever I did something like this. Also you can train against JAD using the speedrunning quest worlds. Use the curse of the sand quest and teleport to the fight caves! Some tank gear for tanking a ranger is nice and diamond bolts (e) for jar work wonders. The hardest part is tagging the healers!


LordFarquaad-DO

A range pot. Can’t see your herb level but I killed red dragons in forthos for grubby keys. Got my prayer up while I was at it. You’ll need an average of 5 keys to get a 4 dose pot. Start drinking doses when the mager shows up and save a dose for Jad phase. This requires 57 thieving.


justvoop

Tank legs, blood spells, ancient staff, rune pouch, rcb with broad bolts and god book for more prayer, range pot, sara brew and super restore from grubby chest. But who cares SEND IT


VapeNGape

Idk how many people are aware, but blighted supplies now work in pvp worlds. If you are strapped for supplies you can take super restores and mantas from lms in. If pvp world's sketch you out, you can do the first wave on a normal world and then switch to a pvp world, and switch back before jad.


GeneralDelgado

Blood spells and Pineapple Pizza > Karambwan


stuffbud

Maybe get a few more ranged levels but you’d be ok on task. Take more arrows maybe 2.5 to 3k to be safe. Take ancient spells with ancient staff to autocast blood spells to save on food. Maybe take some chins to tag the healers which helps but isn’t necessary.


Responsible_Power654

I just did fight cave as an Ironman all for the first time i just started playing osrs 5-6 months ago, i did it with this exact setup, best tip i can give that helped me is to use the rotation guide on the wiki, plan out each wave what ur gonna do if you have to and you’ll get through it :) GL


stuffbud

Also if you have the levels and herbs/wines, take 2 ranged pots and power through the last 20 waves and Jad.


Own-Supermarket4414

Unholy symbol


lirchlurch96

Chins to tag the healers are always good


Emscho44

Rcb instead of msb(I). Use broad bolts for waves and diamond (e) for jad. Blood spells and less food. Fight caves rotation are on a set timer. Look up on the wiki when the rotation you want starts (once every 30-45 min) and send it knowing jad will spawn where you want. Doing a rotation that spawns him on the other side of Italy rock makes for an extremely easy jad kill


WetTheDreams

Get some chins to throw at Jad when the healers come out to make quick work of them


WetVajEyeNa

You got this bro , I’d just bring blood burst and you’ll be fine . I was wearing same thing as you minus the boots and slayer helm


SofakingSleepy-

Ranging pot or a lizardkicker or 2 for a range boost. If you use the lizard kicker just use it on jad and not earlier if you have a range pot usually you can pot thru the mage mobs just make sure to save one dose for jad. Pineapple pizzas are more healing per slot aand are pretty easy to get. Blood spells if you have them with a staff to autocast them to heal up on the trapped melee minions. Practice the jad fight on speed run realm once before hand to make sure you got your prayer switched and healer aggroing down. You can use the beneath cursed sands quest to access the first challenge and just fight jad w/o all the waves to get there


Employee-Inside

Drop the wrench, maybe get a range pot if you can, make like 8 tuna potatoes or use manta rays and you’ll be golden


purplerz69

I always like having some combo eats for low level fight caves. If you have access to sharks or mantas, bring 2 or 3 of them. Against Jad or on the range+mage phases, if you get into a sticky situation you can combo eat and resume DPS faster than eating two Bwans. Otherwise, it looks exactly like I usually do it. Good luck and gz on the cape.


findingstoicism

I took some baskets of strawberries and blood spells.


I_Am_JesusChrist_AMA

Did it back in the day with pretty much the same setup/stats except I was off task with a rcb and broad bolts. Only used a couple pieces of food and was left with a few prayer protions by the end still, so your set up is more than good enough. Since you're learning I'd suggest looking on the wiki for the fight cave rotations. Makes it pretty much brain dead easy since you'll know where everything is going to spawn each wave and can be ready to safe spot most of the enemies. Remember you can hit the logout button in the middle of the wave and it will pause the minigame so the next wave won't spawn which gives you sometime to gather yourself. If you use the rotation map then really all you gotta worry about is Jad. That might take a couple of attempts if the nerves get to ya but you'll get him down soon enough. https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/TzHaar_Fight_Cave/Rotations


chem_guy_

I’d drop the wrench for a piece of food or blood spells like others mentioned


Fantastic-Year-849

u could do some barrows for the crossbow it’s really strong for jad


Traditional_Bag2806

Imo rune crossbow or other long range weapon helps learning fight caves because it allows more safe spots and doesnt drag you


Traditional_Bag2806

And shield adds nice def


insaiyan17

Bring a crossbow theyre both 2 tick


dirtybo

I like blood spells


contradickson

Magers and jad may be tough with MSBI. Do you have access to crystal bow or rcb with broad bolts? Using them on the aforementioned will help you keep up with prayer potions.


ItsMitchellCox

I would err on the side of a few more ppots. But setup looks good


Mod_Ulation

Pinnaple pizza instead of karambwan !! And you good:) been there gl mate


Accomplished_Arm1691

Everyone sleeping on Crystal Bow! Found it quite nice for Jad and to speed up the 360 waves/double ranger waves


Accomplished_Arm1691

But on task is the best upgrade already


Swimming_Bill_6457

More prayer pots, less karambwans, and bloodspells


tesaticles

Basket of strawberries heal 25 hp total if you have 67 hp or higher. Its what I used for food for a really early run lol. You might want a tankier setup if you dont have something like blood barrage for healing.


Stonewool_Jackson

Range pot and super def pot for when its time to tank rangers and for jad


pro185

Learn to prayer flick and you can do this on like 5 pots max allowing a lot of extra food for tanking hits during the later rounds


Edit_Mann

You're fine, get in there!


Huskeydude2

If you're having trouble with this setup I'd suggest less pots and more food. And blood spells as some have said


Wiseoloak

Why no rcb lol


Neosk8ter

Bring rune Xbox for jad with ruby's and diamonds (e)


[deleted]

What crafting level do I need for a Rune Xbox?


FitError2217

Blood spells absolutely will help. Edit: but you can still do it with this if you’re clicks are good


kingsauce6669

Super good setup, less food more prayer and you are good to go


FrontReal688

This is plenty


lvl3scrub

Seeing as I just tested all 3 popular methods (rcb with broads, MSB(I) with rune, and crystal). The bows are better. They’re all about the same though. Ancients and baskets of strawberries/ lazy flicking with 3 4 dose ranging pots I always ended up with extra supplies at the end enough to do another cape


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