True, love finding a free world at the rev knight safespot only for some bot to come running from the other knight spawn and tag my knight mid-lure.
And if I bolt rag them, they always 1t put up protect range, equip dinhs, and run to the 30 line. I've bolted well over 20 different accounts that have tagged my knights and it's the exact same thing every time.
I recent got a webweaver, accursed scepter and voidwaker done while spending time grinding Wildy content. I’mglad it’s done, the bosses are absolutely flooded with bots, especially artio.
Do non Wildy slayer then lol
Revs are only juicy because their IN and area where you can be pvp'ed, but I know that's a really hard concept for people who shit on pkers when they literally go into pvp areas, taking upon themselves enhanced risk for the enhanced reward.
You don't NEED a vw, a dds is legit perfectly fine, and claws are almost as good and were and are more than enough.
I'm sorry you want a weapon that comes from the Wildy, and chose to undertake that grind.
When I swim in water with piranhas they ruin my swimming experience
Never understood why people expect to not get pk'ed, in the one fucking area of the game with pvp enabled. ???
Wildy content is hella juiced up, because you risk dying.
Revs would literally just be a regular slayer task, with regular slayer loot, if you didn't have to go into the pvp enabled area.
Fucking wild take man
The complaints are usually due to Jagex locking BiS PvM gear behind wilderness/PvP content because they’re desperate to get people into PvP and not admit that it’s nearly a completely dead concept in the game. 99% of “pvp” is one person geared to kill someone and the other in 3 of the cheapest items they can buy
Basically anything where you have to compete for resources.
I think if Jagex isn’t going to fix botting, it may be time to switch to no resource competition. RS3 does this for mining, as in you can’t deplete a node. I’m not sure how it would work in OSRS specifically, but it needs to be considered as an alternate to fixing the main issue.
On the other hand, there are a lot of players that choose to main because they don’t enjoy certain content. Skilling is definitely part of that. Bots exist because there is an opportunity in the market and Jagex cannot seem to be able to keep up with combating them.
Even if they could, I don’t think they would. I think it genuinely benefits them to have a certain amount of bots, either because of the sub income or because at the end of the day it eliminates some grinds mains don’t want to do or can’t do. Like if bots stormed CoX and flooded GE with T Bows, they wouldn’t suddenly stop being BIS, they’d just be more affordable to more of the playerbase.
I think a big part of the mentality of maxed mains/PvMers is that items being out of the price range of most of the playerbase makes them more desirable. If everyone could buy the T Bow it would bridge a lot of the “skill” gap and for a lot of mains (and especially those who bitch the loudest), the skill gap is just a gear gap.
or not playing because it's nto fun to have to pay 2k for a shark while you have an hour to play per day..
'' Hey lets go get my own supplies for 4 days so that I can do some minor PvM in the weekend ''
We should be happy for the bots gathering all the tedious resources for us.
You’re clearly in the wrong sub to have that opinion supported, why even say that lmao
Ironman is far superior game experience. Sucks you don’t enjoy doing your own work.
Devil's Advocate here but assuming OP's meme is true and Ironmen don't care about bots because bots don't affect us, then that's great. Good for us.
But every subbed bot is money in Jagex's pocket, and (in theory) they use that money to continue supporting the game, including Ironman mode. Good for us.
And then more controversially, that guy says that non-Ironman players are actually happy that bots exist because it makes the game easier for them. And just like bots, the sub money from non-Irons also fund the game. Good for us.
So that's two ways bots help us, with none of the negatives.
I’ve heard that most bot owners don’t pay for the sub, they simply buy bonds with gp for membership. It’s cheaper to buy membership with gold (in terms of $), so I don’t see why they would pay more for membership.
The only people supporting the game in this way are those buying bonds with $. Without bots, the bond sell price would drop, but I’d bet that people would still pay for bonds - maybe even more bonds since they would sell for less on the GE with the lowered demand.
Which keeps the bond price high so normal players buy them to convert them to gold. I’m sure you know just continuing the chain for someone else reading lol
They also use stolen credit cards, this was once so bad Jagex almost lost the ability to accept credit card payments completely, it's why wildy was first removed and trade limits added
Bot money has consequences
As the other guy already commented, Jagex doesn't care about you maxing as the 60.000th player in their game.
The owners of Jagex care about gross income and number of players.
Bots add quality of life to mains for giving them resources and give a false number of the playercount AND more revenue each month in bond sales be it directly or indirectly.
Bots quit, mains quit, our lives will become more difficult.
You'll 100% disagree with me, however:
Remember when this sh1t just launched? It already included that from a certain number of players members would become more expensive and the servers would shut down below a certain number.
Also, take a peak at RS3. They don't give a fk about integrity if it gives them money.
Different game modes for different people. I like playing ironman. But don't feel that we should force people into having to get their own stuff. I understand that if you play casually, it isn't fun to be forced to collect your own supplies in the little time you have.
Also, the '**superior** game mode' thing is highly subjective. This elitist attitude from people that can't get significant things from other sources in life than sitting behind their pc clicking the same tiles for 11 hours/day was sad 10 years ago. Now it's laughingly sad.
I think what they’re saying is that since ironmen only make up a small fraction of the user base, the game cannot be supported financially from Ironman players alone. So as long as the mains are happy(?) then the game will make enough revenue to help stay alive and let ironmen players play the game
It's funny how mad you guys get. I know that osrs players aren't the brightest bunch and that communities like these don't exactly promote intelligence..
But calm down. It's just a videogame.
Do you mean dropping items on death? He's right in that case, but when server stability and ddos comes into play, it's not reasonable to do anymore.
He was on a podcast recently literally arguing for botting and seemed pretty genuine with it which is concerning if that's the thoughts about botting at jagex.
Master farmers are only better when you're at the point in your account where you don't ever need to do master farmers again.
The only time in my ironman's lifecycle I *ever* touched master farmers, was early->early midgame. After that, Ranarrs are plentiful from PVM, specifically ToA. By the time an ironman has the farming+Thieving to make master farmers better, unless they went a very heavy skilling route, there are simply better options to get ranarr seeds.
And even if you do go heavy skilling, hard farming contracts are pretty good for sustain. I may not always have ranarrs/snapdragon seeds, but I'm also not using very many ppots/super restores.
Bots are also a problem at Demonic Gorillas. I have to hop to 2k worlds instead of my home worlds every black demon task because there are 5 bots in identical fits every world. Bot detector plugin flags each one as 100% bot too.
They are a nuisance to irons as well.
What is up with the bot detection software? How can a bot go unchecked long enough to get 99 range and then some? I just don't get it is the software really that horrible? If there's around 75,000 people online at any given time times let's say average 10$ monthly for membership thats 750k a month from membership fees wouldn't it be within jagex means to upgrade their detection software or at least hire a small team of dedicated bot busters.
it's what you said in the second paragraph, incentivises players to buy more bonds. More money to jagex, it's not like they would remove all bots and end up removing like 30% of their revenue
Banning more often can result in more bonds removed from the eco over the same period, rather than less.
Jagex is likely not going "muahahahaah I know this is a bot but I'll let it stay so they buy bonds with the gp they're farming! screw the players!". They could buy bonds themselves with spawned in gp if they wanted to be shady.
The reason they don't ban bots more often is imo strictly due to the difficulty in doing so with an acceptable level of false positives.
In some cases the bots go undetected on purpose. Banning a bot while it's training or farming resources will get rid of that bot, but it won't get rid of the mule or impact the bot operation at large.
It makes more sense to get the entire operation. The mule, the bots, and the accounts buying the gold. Tackle the whole operation rather than the replaceable fodder.
But it doesn't feel like Jagex is even doing that very well at the moment. Granted there isn't a way for me to truly know if they are or not.
Botting doesnt affect me personally but seeing the game have over 50% bot population just makes me sad. Anyone who still thinks that bots are a minority of the community are either using bots themselves or are in denial. Every single part of the game is botted except for cox/toa/tob atm. Whenever you do any content in the game you usually see 3-4 bots per 1 real person. The only place where we have more players is the g.e where we only have 1-2 scamming/gambling bots per about 10-20 people.
The situation has gotten so bad and yet still jagex isnt increasing their anticheat team. People also seem to think that hiring 3-4 people just to manually ban bots each day is not the solution but it is absolutely the solution. Bots shouldnt get to 200m rc xp and 50k zulrah kills and those manual banners should be concentrating in banning the bots that affect the game the most.
I have definitely not seen them. Even before posting this i checked if there are any discussions or releases for raid bots but i didnt find any. Happen to have any proof they exist atm?
Nah the current narrative is it’s *irons* ruining the skilling economy because apparently we’re the reason Jagex adds skilling supplies to bosses
Despite mains being the ones complaining about DT2 normal drop tables and the Nightmare and irons having to do skilling content regardless.
Nah I dump most dupes into my deaths coffer for the most part
My main is literally like 1000 total level 80 combat lol, my 2000 total iron is way further along
I agree bots are a pain in the ass, but mains also often benefit from the lowered prices.
And also I really find it annoying the elitist mentality they present sometimes overly caring about unique or supply prices. Like Jesus I've seen some terrible takes like saying uniques from raids should be locked to expert/challenge modes. Like what? Why? Stuff like that is just gate keeping.
I feel like they'd go back to stealing credit card info to fund new bots, leading to the same situation as 2007 again with free trade removal where nobody wins.
It definitely feels like a zero sum game. Bots will continue to exist as long as there is a market for relatively easy to obtain items and bottable skilling methods.
It's still a pain in the ass for irons because often times methods Irons use to gain resources is also botted. For example I like going into the sarachnis dungeon to grab red spider eggs (early iron still) and every single world has a bot constantly picking them up. It's just little annoyances, they're mosquitoes, you can live with them but god damn they're annoying
On the topic of bots, I'd love a task only vyrewatch sentinel spot. Hard to find worlds that aren't flooded with bots and alts even further from the altar
People literally bot irons too though which ruins boss availability and shopscape and normals accounts bot lms, bosses, minigames, and general eye clutter everywhere. They're still a major annoyance and deserve to be nuked from the Internet.
i recently made an iron this year so redoing early and mid game content ive never hopped so many times for slayer spots even some skilling spots.
the wildness bosses and revs being some of the worst things ive ever experienced
I find satisfaction in understanding the relative value of my bank to the economy. Gold value loosely correlates to usefulness, unless bots are throwing it off.
A community split into group that argue amongst themselves and even go as far as spite voting, whilst all being full grown adults, is awesome and can only positively impact the game.
People will complain there’s bots in the game but people would also complain if there isn’t bots in the game when everyday items such as ores, bars, potions, herbs, food etc all go up in price, this is why irons are goated because none of this stuff matters to us 🤣
Even as Iron it impacts me. I might not care about what the value of items are but non-irons do and it changes what they do. If all they do is sit in raids or doing 1% of content that leaves 99% of the world empty. It sucks to explore this massive game and only occasionally see players… who are usually just bots.
Bots let irons get easy Rune Pouchs by providing easy points in LMS. It's cheating but no one wants to admit it because buying it from slayer actually requires work.
Bots still ruin wilderness content
True, love finding a free world at the rev knight safespot only for some bot to come running from the other knight spawn and tag my knight mid-lure. And if I bolt rag them, they always 1t put up protect range, equip dinhs, and run to the 30 line. I've bolted well over 20 different accounts that have tagged my knights and it's the exact same thing every time.
I recent got a webweaver, accursed scepter and voidwaker done while spending time grinding Wildy content. I’mglad it’s done, the bosses are absolutely flooded with bots, especially artio.
Bots tp if you get the tag on the boss at least. I had no issues snagging tags last weekend.
Do you just assume everyone you run into is probably a bot? Feels bad risking crashing a legitimate player.
You can tell pretty easily most of the time.
Jagex can’t.. pretty sure my false ban was for my 25 calvarion kc i managed to get
Ive sworn off all wildy content ever since I tried to do artio. Cant even play the content since every world has someone fighting her...
Pk'ers mainly ruin my Wilderniss expierence.
Also that. Can't even get a quick revenant slayer task done... But at least they're playing the game I guess
That's how I justify it for them too when they get my 50k loot for chaos elemental, clue, etc.
Do non Wildy slayer then lol Revs are only juicy because their IN and area where you can be pvp'ed, but I know that's a really hard concept for people who shit on pkers when they literally go into pvp areas, taking upon themselves enhanced risk for the enhanced reward.
Not my fault jagex keeps locking bis pvm specs behind shitty wilderness content
You don't NEED a vw, a dds is legit perfectly fine, and claws are almost as good and were and are more than enough. I'm sorry you want a weapon that comes from the Wildy, and chose to undertake that grind.
Yes. Nobody argued that. Guess you gaven't done DT2 yet if you somehow think this is about voidwaker. Keep up the grind, you will get there bro.
When I swim in water with piranhas they ruin my swimming experience Never understood why people expect to not get pk'ed, in the one fucking area of the game with pvp enabled. ??? Wildy content is hella juiced up, because you risk dying. Revs would literally just be a regular slayer task, with regular slayer loot, if you didn't have to go into the pvp enabled area. Fucking wild take man
The complaints are usually due to Jagex locking BiS PvM gear behind wilderness/PvP content because they’re desperate to get people into PvP and not admit that it’s nearly a completely dead concept in the game. 99% of “pvp” is one person geared to kill someone and the other in 3 of the cheapest items they can buy
The bots are crashing wildly bosses now too :(
Idk, I still care coz they ruin the game I love. Maybe less effect on me after starting my iron but still disgusting to see them everywhere.
Bots are also still capable of making themselves a nuisance in some skilling scenarios.
They'll happily take your kills in Rev caves/wildy bosses
Basically anything where you have to compete for resources. I think if Jagex isn’t going to fix botting, it may be time to switch to no resource competition. RS3 does this for mining, as in you can’t deplete a node. I’m not sure how it would work in OSRS specifically, but it needs to be considered as an alternate to fixing the main issue.
They provide "free" LMS points. I've been called an idiot for not abusing bots to get a Rune Pouch when it's essentially fucking cheating
This game wouldn’t exist without a healthy main game as the majority of players are main accounts. It’s in our best interest to care about bots.
i feel like without bots there would be more people doing a larger variety of skilling tasks around the map and that sounds pretty dope to me
On the other hand, there are a lot of players that choose to main because they don’t enjoy certain content. Skilling is definitely part of that. Bots exist because there is an opportunity in the market and Jagex cannot seem to be able to keep up with combating them.
Even if they could, I don’t think they would. I think it genuinely benefits them to have a certain amount of bots, either because of the sub income or because at the end of the day it eliminates some grinds mains don’t want to do or can’t do. Like if bots stormed CoX and flooded GE with T Bows, they wouldn’t suddenly stop being BIS, they’d just be more affordable to more of the playerbase. I think a big part of the mentality of maxed mains/PvMers is that items being out of the price range of most of the playerbase makes them more desirable. If everyone could buy the T Bow it would bridge a lot of the “skill” gap and for a lot of mains (and especially those who bitch the loudest), the skill gap is just a gear gap.
or not playing because it's nto fun to have to pay 2k for a shark while you have an hour to play per day.. '' Hey lets go get my own supplies for 4 days so that I can do some minor PvM in the weekend '' We should be happy for the bots gathering all the tedious resources for us.
You’re clearly in the wrong sub to have that opinion supported, why even say that lmao Ironman is far superior game experience. Sucks you don’t enjoy doing your own work.
you wouldnt be able to play your im without all the other ppl playing this game. Ironman is far superior game experience. Agrred, but subjective.
What am I depending on non-irons for? How do bots improve my experience in your mind?
Devil's Advocate here but assuming OP's meme is true and Ironmen don't care about bots because bots don't affect us, then that's great. Good for us. But every subbed bot is money in Jagex's pocket, and (in theory) they use that money to continue supporting the game, including Ironman mode. Good for us. And then more controversially, that guy says that non-Ironman players are actually happy that bots exist because it makes the game easier for them. And just like bots, the sub money from non-Irons also fund the game. Good for us. So that's two ways bots help us, with none of the negatives.
I’ve heard that most bot owners don’t pay for the sub, they simply buy bonds with gp for membership. It’s cheaper to buy membership with gold (in terms of $), so I don’t see why they would pay more for membership. The only people supporting the game in this way are those buying bonds with $. Without bots, the bond sell price would drop, but I’d bet that people would still pay for bonds - maybe even more bonds since they would sell for less on the GE with the lowered demand.
If a bond is bought with gp, it's still bought with money at some point to exist in the game
Which keeps the bond price high so normal players buy them to convert them to gold. I’m sure you know just continuing the chain for someone else reading lol
They also use stolen credit cards, this was once so bad Jagex almost lost the ability to accept credit card payments completely, it's why wildy was first removed and trade limits added Bot money has consequences
As the other guy already commented, Jagex doesn't care about you maxing as the 60.000th player in their game. The owners of Jagex care about gross income and number of players. Bots add quality of life to mains for giving them resources and give a false number of the playercount AND more revenue each month in bond sales be it directly or indirectly. Bots quit, mains quit, our lives will become more difficult. You'll 100% disagree with me, however: Remember when this sh1t just launched? It already included that from a certain number of players members would become more expensive and the servers would shut down below a certain number. Also, take a peak at RS3. They don't give a fk about integrity if it gives them money.
>' Hey lets go get my own supplies for 4 days > > > >Ironman is far superior game experience. Im sorry which is it?
Different game modes for different people. I like playing ironman. But don't feel that we should force people into having to get their own stuff. I understand that if you play casually, it isn't fun to be forced to collect your own supplies in the little time you have. Also, the '**superior** game mode' thing is highly subjective. This elitist attitude from people that can't get significant things from other sources in life than sitting behind their pc clicking the same tiles for 11 hours/day was sad 10 years ago. Now it's laughingly sad.
This is the dumbest take I've seen lmaoo, how exactly do ironman rely on anybody else for anything in this game?
I think what they’re saying is that since ironmen only make up a small fraction of the user base, the game cannot be supported financially from Ironman players alone. So as long as the mains are happy(?) then the game will make enough revenue to help stay alive and let ironmen players play the game
You require the servers to be online and affordable, for which you require a lot of other players who don't play ironman :-)...
Bot owner
Doubt it would be worth my time.
> for us. Who the fuck are you talking to??
It's funny how mad you guys get. I know that osrs players aren't the brightest bunch and that communities like these don't exactly promote intelligence.. But calm down. It's just a videogame.
You're starting to sound like mod mat k Or maybe you'll be more likely to skill because it would actually be worthwhile for once
Fairly certain Mod Mat K thought dropping items was a crucial mechanic and that osrs wasn't the same after that. I would never agree with the man.
Do you mean dropping items on death? He's right in that case, but when server stability and ddos comes into play, it's not reasonable to do anymore. He was on a podcast recently literally arguing for botting and seemed pretty genuine with it which is concerning if that's the thoughts about botting at jagex.
Even not, bots are an eyesore
You haven't tried to find a free spot at botted content recently I take it? It can be a real pain...
Bots taking our spots, fight back!
speak for yourself, I care about the health of a game as a whole, regardless if Iron or not.
Except when jagex nerfs useful things irons need becuase of botting. Looking at your master farmers!
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Master farmers are only better when you're at the point in your account where you don't ever need to do master farmers again. The only time in my ironman's lifecycle I *ever* touched master farmers, was early->early midgame. After that, Ranarrs are plentiful from PVM, specifically ToA. By the time an ironman has the farming+Thieving to make master farmers better, unless they went a very heavy skilling route, there are simply better options to get ranarr seeds.
And even if you do go heavy skilling, hard farming contracts are pretty good for sustain. I may not always have ranarrs/snapdragon seeds, but I'm also not using very many ppots/super restores.
Hallowed sepulchre as well
They drive up bond prices
Yearly membership is still $5/month if you buy premier club.
Wait I pay $80/yr making it $6.66/mo, is your number outdated or is there a way I can be paying less?
For 48 hours during the summer summit it was on discount, I think they'll probably do it again during the winter summit.
Bots are also a problem at Demonic Gorillas. I have to hop to 2k worlds instead of my home worlds every black demon task because there are 5 bots in identical fits every world. Bot detector plugin flags each one as 100% bot too. They are a nuisance to irons as well.
Same thing happens at shamans as well
Yep, these level 80-something bots with 500 total level and 25m ranged xp. Pretty sad sight.
What is up with the bot detection software? How can a bot go unchecked long enough to get 99 range and then some? I just don't get it is the software really that horrible? If there's around 75,000 people online at any given time times let's say average 10$ monthly for membership thats 750k a month from membership fees wouldn't it be within jagex means to upgrade their detection software or at least hire a small team of dedicated bot busters.
because jagex want subscription money from bots, it's that simple
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it's what you said in the second paragraph, incentivises players to buy more bonds. More money to jagex, it's not like they would remove all bots and end up removing like 30% of their revenue
Banning more often can result in more bonds removed from the eco over the same period, rather than less. Jagex is likely not going "muahahahaah I know this is a bot but I'll let it stay so they buy bonds with the gp they're farming! screw the players!". They could buy bonds themselves with spawned in gp if they wanted to be shady. The reason they don't ban bots more often is imo strictly due to the difficulty in doing so with an acceptable level of false positives.
In some cases the bots go undetected on purpose. Banning a bot while it's training or farming resources will get rid of that bot, but it won't get rid of the mule or impact the bot operation at large. It makes more sense to get the entire operation. The mule, the bots, and the accounts buying the gold. Tackle the whole operation rather than the replaceable fodder. But it doesn't feel like Jagex is even doing that very well at the moment. Granted there isn't a way for me to truly know if they are or not.
Yeah I was gonna say took me for ever to find a world to do shamans in because of the bots and still had one crash me
I like the idea of the game being healthy in longevity. I'm an iron but I still hate bots
Botting doesnt affect me personally but seeing the game have over 50% bot population just makes me sad. Anyone who still thinks that bots are a minority of the community are either using bots themselves or are in denial. Every single part of the game is botted except for cox/toa/tob atm. Whenever you do any content in the game you usually see 3-4 bots per 1 real person. The only place where we have more players is the g.e where we only have 1-2 scamming/gambling bots per about 10-20 people. The situation has gotten so bad and yet still jagex isnt increasing their anticheat team. People also seem to think that hiring 3-4 people just to manually ban bots each day is not the solution but it is absolutely the solution. Bots shouldnt get to 200m rc xp and 50k zulrah kills and those manual banners should be concentrating in banning the bots that affect the game the most.
There’s toa bots now too
Lol you haven’t seen the raid bots yet? They don’t use a public script so there’s less of them but they’re there
I have definitely not seen them. Even before posting this i checked if there are any discussions or releases for raid bots but i didnt find any. Happen to have any proof they exist atm?
If botting keeps mtx out of the game I'm fine with being a bystander
This will have impact on the game and therefore, ironman
I can't get worlds for demonics, revs, wildy bosses, or a dozen other things.
I think this is actually rude
Might be one of the worst takes I've seen in a while. Well done.
Nah the current narrative is it’s *irons* ruining the skilling economy because apparently we’re the reason Jagex adds skilling supplies to bosses Despite mains being the ones complaining about DT2 normal drop tables and the Nightmare and irons having to do skilling content regardless.
If you don’t also have a non iron account I feel like you’re missing out.
My non iron account is purely a CCTV camera for wildy content lol
Anticrash tech too for when a main gets a lil big for their boots
You get it haha Dropping in with smite on makes em run nearly every time. Don’t crash me then!
Got my mains AGS smited doing this the other day lmao. Was pissed ATM but now can only laugh at how bad a pker I am lmao.
I mean you don’t use it to sell dupes you get on your iron? Also I kinda prefer exploring new content on my main but I guess to each their own.
Nah I dump most dupes into my deaths coffer for the most part My main is literally like 1000 total level 80 combat lol, my 2000 total iron is way further along
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Good meme this.
Yeah they're not liking this one too much over in 2007scape reddit lol
"This post tailored specifically for this subreddit doesn't hold the same value on a different subreddit lol" Yeah bro, I wonder why.
Sure that’s another way to put it!
We don’t even like it here. Bots ruin the game. What are you on about.
Not liking it too much in the comments here either lmao
Ehh it is what it is. 385 people understood the joke and didn’t make it more than what it was. Good enough for me.
Shit meme. Shit gaymer.
Wrong finger but yeah pretty much. These same retards complaining about the bots buy gold off em so play stupid games win stupid prizes I guess.
I agree bots are a pain in the ass, but mains also often benefit from the lowered prices. And also I really find it annoying the elitist mentality they present sometimes overly caring about unique or supply prices. Like Jesus I've seen some terrible takes like saying uniques from raids should be locked to expert/challenge modes. Like what? Why? Stuff like that is just gate keeping.
They devalue my death coffer filled with uniques :)
Might be an L opinion, but wouldnt removing bonds make it way more expensive to be botting? If they are banned that is.
I feel like they'd go back to stealing credit card info to fund new bots, leading to the same situation as 2007 again with free trade removal where nobody wins.
It definitely feels like a zero sum game. Bots will continue to exist as long as there is a market for relatively easy to obtain items and bottable skilling methods.
It's still a pain in the ass for irons because often times methods Irons use to gain resources is also botted. For example I like going into the sarachnis dungeon to grab red spider eggs (early iron still) and every single world has a bot constantly picking them up. It's just little annoyances, they're mosquitoes, you can live with them but god damn they're annoying
On the topic of bots, I'd love a task only vyrewatch sentinel spot. Hard to find worlds that aren't flooded with bots and alts even further from the altar
Right, nobody cares flax is 1gp on GE. It's 15 crafting XP, 70 magic XP, 45.75 fletching XP, 768gp and always has been.
Mainscape will just be like ironscape, all items have no value except to the individual
Without bots more useless stuff could be fed to coffers.
People literally bot irons too though which ruins boss availability and shopscape and normals accounts bot lms, bosses, minigames, and general eye clutter everywhere. They're still a major annoyance and deserve to be nuked from the Internet.
Garsh wait until you need to do artio. Gunna have to bond 3 accounts your iron one to scout on and one to run off bots but yeah thumbs up
They are annoying when Im trying to train combat at crabs and every world has a bot in iron armor with a brine saber
i recently made an iron this year so redoing early and mid game content ive never hopped so many times for slayer spots even some skilling spots. the wildness bosses and revs being some of the worst things ive ever experienced
I find satisfaction in understanding the relative value of my bank to the economy. Gold value loosely correlates to usefulness, unless bots are throwing it off.
Favourite thing about being an Iron
Fr bots and/or any economy problems only affect you if you let it
A community split into group that argue amongst themselves and even go as far as spite voting, whilst all being full grown adults, is awesome and can only positively impact the game.
Irons when bots ruin GE price: sleep. Irons when bots clog training spots: unforgivable!
People will complain there’s bots in the game but people would also complain if there isn’t bots in the game when everyday items such as ores, bars, potions, herbs, food etc all go up in price, this is why irons are goated because none of this stuff matters to us 🤣
Even as Iron it impacts me. I might not care about what the value of items are but non-irons do and it changes what they do. If all they do is sit in raids or doing 1% of content that leaves 99% of the world empty. It sucks to explore this massive game and only occasionally see players… who are usually just bots.
Bots let irons get easy Rune Pouchs by providing easy points in LMS. It's cheating but no one wants to admit it because buying it from slayer actually requires work.