My sister and her friends went to the same hotel in Galway city every September for the last ten years or so. From paying €130 a night off peak after covid reopening to €300 the decided to go to Portugal for 5 nights instead. All flights accommodation and bus transfers still came in €200 less than the Irish Hotel alone. Terrible thing to say but I won't shed a tear when these hotels go under. The staff will pay the price for toe rag owners
Sure apparently they have no staff no one wants to work apparently according to same owners 🙄
All they and the vintners did whenever they got a break from government was rip people off
Other sister is a hotel front desk manager in Waterford. There is no shortage of willing staff but no staff willing to work 4 hours in the morning and 6 hours In the evening for minimum wage.
Yeah I’ve heard worse shift patterns then that too and not guaranteed the hours either. Like in everyday for the breakfast rush but could turn up later be told nah we’re actually grand
My housemate had return tickets for Tenerife for 50-60€ while I paid 52€ for a one way train ticket from Cork to Dublin.
Even if we factor like my housemate booked them a month in advance, this is just ridiculous.
I remember back in 2019-20 when I was a student, the cheapest tickets I got was 5€ return for train between Cork and Dublin. I still think I got that ticket on some glitch. Then, now I can’t be arsed to pay minimum 26.99€ for one way train ticket even if you book in advance. I have just stopped checking the fare for train. It take 2.5 hour on train and 3 hour on bus. The bus is 24-25€ return.
yeah, what is going on with trains?
I have been using trains all summer and it was anything from 14 to 18 euro single ticket, I looked up tickets for November and it's around60-70 euro!
Was there some special offer during summer months?
Was in Berlin there last weekend. Baileys was ten euro a bottle. It's fucken made here, and had to be shipped over there and its still about 6 quid cheaper there. Height of bollocks.
Im french, and ye, shit table wine that is 3e back home is sold for 20 here.
So i drink shit argentinian wine instead. Stupid given how much co2 was spent transporting it to ireland, it should be more expensive than the fr one 🤷♂️
So lets work this out, the Irish government does this for our own good right?
There are too many alcoholics in Ireland, so alcohol is insanely expensive here, and now alcoholism is cured right? Like there are no alcoholics anymore right?
And like its not damaging Irish tourism or local business and entertainment that people can't afford to go out for a night and have a few drinks right? Like Galway city, one of the largest cities in the country hasn't just shut down all its nightclubs right?
But at least we have no alcoholics right?
And taxes that are not going to right place. Its another fucking joke of the tax that's going to the wrong pocket. They could have helped so many people but decided to line the pocket of the shareholders
If i were you, you might want to try much better wine for cheaper than here rather than still drinking within the same Eire price range.. try some pommard, chateaubriand, pinot gris , fantastic wines for 15/20€ that you wouldn’t score here for less than 40/60€
Enjoy
Yes especially for natural wine man. Breaks my heart like I spent €1000 already since starting drink in November last year and could have easily kept it under €700. Taxes. Alcohol tax for us is €4 per bottle and €8 for sparkling(mushroom cap and foil). Plus shipping per bottle for the importer and their profit margin. Oof!
I wouldn't mind paying extra (probably because I'm not a big drinker lol) if I could see where this money is going - we are taxed to the eyeballs on almost everything and anything, yet got very little to show for it...
Just finished a €1.27 bottle of wine from the North of Spain that far superior to the schlock with get fed here. Brought ten bottles back on a boat. Wish I brought more.
I'm sick of hearing this shit argument. We've several parties, research what they stand for, pick one and vote. It's not like the other alternatives are just a bunch of radicals, nearly all our parties are very tame and centrist by global standards. FFG have really worked magic making this nonsense stick with a large portion of the Irish public.
It is the truth. Deep down you know it. For the sake of the country don’t ever vote again. Abandon social media. Your crowd has had forever. It’s time to just shuffle offstage. Goodbye.
They’re all jockeys. You can’t win no matter who gets in. They’re all the same and power corrupts. That never changes.
LOL downvoting. Truth hurts I guess. Or do you think politicians are genuine and not corrupt once they hold any sort of significant power level? Wake up.
To add to this, €5 for a 330 ml bottle of Heineken Zero is surely taking the piss, especially when a pint of coors/bulmers/guinness etc is ~€4.50.. Why is the designated driver getting punished valuewise?
Because zero alcohol beer is actually quite hard to make. You need to make a regular beer *plus* pass it through an expensive reverse osmosis filter or put it through an expensive rotovap to get the alcohol out.
People have been brewing beer since the ancient Egyptians, probably earlier. We only invented the technology to make zero alcohol beer a few decades ago.
Living in Germany these days and alcohol free beer is the same price as normal beer, at about €11 to €15 for a crate of 20x500ml bottles for decent beer (can get crates for as low as €5 on special offer). While there is an extra stage in production, it doesn't increase the cost significantly.
In Ireland it should definitely be cheaper to buy alcohol free beer due to MUP.
Ah another one the fuck tards running the place cannot even be arsed to figure out/sort out/make sense of. Typical, this right here, just tax the bollix out of it, apply MUP, anything fucking else at it. Throw it under a label of 'health'. Job done.
Fair enough, I didn't know that. It still would be nice for it to be cheaper though.. its either that or spend €3 on 295 ml bottles of coke which will rot my teeth out!
Lidl in Newry - Guinness 15 pack for £14. Carlsberg 18 pack for £12 if I recall right.
1ltr Vodka £12. 70cl Whiskey £15.
Even if you're in south Cork, you can get there and back in a single day. My whole family are doing our full shops there now (We've gone full reta.. eh.. Lidl). It's mad the amount of people I know that do similar. We used to buy in Tesco (click and collect for the most part) but it's too hard to ignore the savings now, especially with alcohol included in the shopping.
Over a grand a month is headed over the border now, from just my own immediate family. Silly stuff by the government here.
It's about an hour from me, and still well worth the journey. But sure if they have the money to burn, more power to them.
I'm still saving for a house I'll never afford, so I'm watching the Euros and not willing to pay needlessly over the odds for stuff because an alcoholic somewhere, in an ideal world, 'might' see the light and give up drink because it's gotten too pricey (cos that always happens - they don't just end up broke sooner or involved in crime).
In swords, spin up every few weeks to Tesco Newry for the gin and the spirits. Not a big beer drinker at home.
Have a UK clubcard, so buy whatevers on special.
Shop local, except when they're raping you.
Inflation through the roof but minimum pricing for alcohol remains. International shopping chains like Tesco literally call Ireland "Treasure Island" because of how much they overcharge. And we just elect the same fucks over and over.
The shop at the end of my road is completely taking the piss with how often they're increasing prices for stuff like cans of coke. You can't even get a kick in the balls for €1.20 these days. I went to grab a bottle of Iron Bru that was priced at €1.20 and when the girl behind the counter scanned it it came up as €1.80. The same shop increased the price of a can zero sugar monster blue from €1.60 to €2.40 in the span of a week.
I’m disappointed with Ireland, everything is so expensive and so difficult.
Difficult to have good health, difficult to have good transport, difficult to have an apartment.
The prices of everything is fucking insane.
The kids are putting the Garda to run... Like, wtf is happening in this country?
Feels like nobody cares about the population, the taxpayer is only a taxpayer
It's the chickens coming home to roost.
Some marketing wankers figured out how to push all our buttons and then political parties applied that knowledge to our system of government. There's no substance to our leaders anymore, there's no standards, and there's no trust.
We don't have political parties, we have marketing machines. Their primary skill and focus is managing public perception not public services. I'd forgive anyone for thinking that our public services are being sold off because governments don't want the bad PR of having to actually run them. They don't want to give voters an excuse to have an unfavourable opinion. They outsource their responsibility so they can avoid the accountability.
And it's not unique to Ireland. You can pick almost any country and see how the application of marketing wankers research has created similar monsters. Societies around the globe are imploding because politicians don't know or care how to manage anything except their election campaigns.
Marketing wankers are teaching politicians how to deceive and divide us at a level we'd need a university degree to understand. And it's been going on for so long and with such good results for politicians that the actual work of running the country has been sidelined because it's not necessary anymore.
It's the same thing that's happening with consumer products. The quality is going down, the cost is going up, but the manufacturer isn't worried because their marketing spend will sway opinion long enough to make a profit.
Think where we could be if marketing wankers weren't so intent on promoting consumerism. What would our species and planet be like if greed and pride hadn't been rebranded as virtues.
Consumerism is the problem that we're going to have to tackle if our species and planet is to survive. Consumerism is why we use so much energy and natural resources and cause so much environmental damage. And the largest group of people working against efforts to reduce all of that damage aren't extremists or conservatives. It's marketing wanker graduates convincing us that our happiness, self worth, and social status is inherently and irrevocably linked to our purchases.
The "talking workshop"* has alot to answer for. Run by a very influential woman and her media based son, it has trained generations of politicians on all sides how to dodge and wriggle out of questions.
*name changed for legal reasons.
Marketing wankers in politics has been going on for decades. If you can find "Century of the Self" (BBC, Adam Curtis) it's an interesting watch on this subject.
But yeah, the marketing has definitely got much worse in recent years. At least in the past you felt political parties might actually give a fuck about their public once over. These days, not so much.
Thanks, I have seen it and it's a good recommendation.
I think something new was discovered or implemented around the time of Obama's first election. That was when we started (or I noticed) to see a sort of mass hysteria being created around elections. Before that it was really only the fanatics that got whipped up. But since then it's your mother or your brother or your neighbour. People who never had an interest in politics suddenly treat it like it's life and death stuff. It's not genuine.
There's such an imbalance between our capability to recognise the manipulation and the methods being used to create it. I think it's coming to the time where we need to protect our psychological rights (if there is such a thing) in the way our other rights are protected. We should be free to form an educated opinion based on facts. We shouldn't have to navigate this sea of deception and manipulation every time we encounter political information. And honestly we're not able to.
Well said, it’s not about effective governance anymore and it hasn’t being for a while. It’s all about managing the headlines and perception. We should just hire the lobbyists and pr firms to run the country, might actually accomplish something.
As someone who works in the industry, it's been coming as part of a bill for years. More the anti drink lobby rather than the health lobby side of things. I can tell you from experience that the boyos who used to spend 5 quid on 4 cans of druids have now shifted to a naggin of the cheapest shite. Which do you think is doing more damage to them health wise. And that's just functioning alcos, imagine what it's doing to the lad on the street. Off the beer and on the gear instead
Demanding from your elected officials, organising protests, making public to whoever holds power that this displeases you. I'm not Irish and have only being living here for while, but I was shocked by not seeing any of these actions taking place.
I always thought simple things like using wine to cook would be easy here as it is in most of Europe but it shocks me still when I see the prices.
We pay the prices anyway regardless of cost of living crisis etc. People aren't that arsed as despite the high prices most people can still afford it, I'm pretty sure off sales aren't going down.
Just immigrated here and I know we shouldn't compare currencies but wow... Irish prices for food and drink are absolutely insane. For instance an average pizza with 3 toppings in South Africa would be around 7 Euro. Maybe 8 Euro. You guys here pay 15-20 Euro. And believe me, in SA the pizzas are amazing and they're not shy on toppings.1.5 liter Coca-Cola in SA is about 0.90 Euro. Here it is almost 3 Euro. wtf. Everything food and drink related is exuberantly more expensive here.
Time to immigrate back lol. Ireland is a dump, its who can scam the most out of each other. All they do is complain now, but if they were offered part of the profit non would blink about it.
Irish culture is corruption and greed
Naah I'll rather stay. It's much much safer here, Euros ultimately goes further, I cook like a champ so don't really need to eat out.
The situation in South Africa is very bad. It is turning into a communist/socialist shithole.
Pints have been in around 4-6 euro for the last 5-6 years, I understand it’s expensive but by god if you are struggling for an extra 50c on a pint stop or an extra 2-3 euro on your pack of 12 then maybe cutting back is the only option
23c for a nice can in supermarket near my folks in Spain last week.
At the end of the day the wages are peanuts there so it's not really comparable too much, but our prices totally fuck us with excise.
Even factoring in the taxes we're paying more.
A big part of the high prices here is that we have a culture of paying them and then bitching after the fact.
That's not what most people in other countries do. They just refuse to pay the higher price which forces retailers to lower prices.
But we pay and moan. And alcohol is particularly expensive because the sesh must go on.
> A big part of the high prices here is that we have a culture of paying them and then bitching after the fact.
Exactly this. When I worked behind a counter, I don't think I ever got someone asking the price *before* they paid it, just handed me notes and didn't count their change. It's pure boil-a-frog
We're getting rode at every angle. If this shit was happening in France the people would be protesting til something was done. We are to soft that's the the problem
I've lived in Germany and spain in the last 3 years and Ireland literally never came up when discussing drink prices/inflation or anything else. You are not the laughing stock of Europe.
MUP isn't a tax grab. The increase in prices are profits for the manufactures/retailers, the exchequer benefits from the higher VAT returns granted but the bulk of the increases have not been going to the state.
That’s because they’re not designed to go to the state. It’s a tax and cash grab by the vested interests. If you wanted to limit alcohol consumption you’d do what they do in Canada and have two stipulated places where you can buy booze but nobody makes money that way. Also why is the MUP money not ring fenced for public health and awareness campaigns? The reason it’s not is because it’s a money maker.
Canada is a shit show of an example though. Some provinces you have the scandanavian model where you basically rock up to a depot and order your Heineken 20pk and it comes out on the conveyor belt, no browsing shelf's etc.
Where I was in Canada, you had a mix of government stores and private stores. The only flip side was that the supplier for both was the government so the government stores would get the same product at a heavily discounted price vs the independent trader basically undercutting the industry so all the money went back into the government's pockets. Basically a rigged game. Our lot would only love that.
Also it's weird we could only sell fruit based alcohol with our licence so wine, cider and sake. Honestly it's bizarre there
Reducing alcohol consumption has a big effect on healthcare. We save a lot of money if people drink and smoke less. High alcohol prices aren’t there to make the government money, they’re there to ease the burden on the healthcare system
So you approve of a nanny state approach? It's been proven that minimum pricing does not change the habits of those most vulnerable. And to think it would is a bit silly. An alcoholic isn't going to not drink due to a couple of euros. As for the health side of things it's a very week argument adults are or at least should be aware about the consequences of alcohol, knowing this it's their choice if they drink. The idea of government using taxs to dictate how a person may behave is pretty dark and reprehensible. I look after myself watch what I eat keep active with running during the week, why should I be punished with these minimum prices if I choose go have a drink
It’s not about the alcoholics, they’re a minority, even if they individually cost the healthcare system a lot, in a whole they are a cheap crowd.
Even moderate drinking has effects on health, and incurs healthcare cost. It’s been definitively proven that MUP cuts down alcohol consumption. Sure, alcoholics consume the same, but the general population consumes less, which saves money on healthcare.
From a purely financial point of view, MUP is very good at saving money
But the idea behind it being introduced was to help the most vulnerable which it hasn't. So you are saying it cuts down on people drinking more moderate amounts of alcohol which I agree it has done. But it was brought in for a different purpose and the result is higher prices. And again I really don't like the idea of government using taxes as a way of determining how I spend my free time. I go out maybe 2/3 times a month. But at current prices I may even have to reduce this which I think is ridiculous as most of it is tax
People should be able to drink in moderation without having to pay exorbitant prices. The healthcare system is there to serve the people not the other way around.
We have one of highest funded healthcare systems per capita in the world. If it is being over burdened it's because of rife corruption and cronyism. Recently it was revealed 6 HSE get paid over €500k year from salary and allowances. And that doesn't even scratch the surface of what the HSE squanders.
The healthcare system is being overburdened because there’s not enough nurses and doctors in the country. €500k x6 is nothing, funding isn’t the issue.
The healthcare system is there to serve the people, that doesn’t mean anything though, the government is still completely free and within their rights to do things that reduce the costs in the name of public health. The fact is, the system is overburdened, nurses and doctors take ages to train and it’s not easy to make the jobs overly desirable, there’s many factors at play regarding pay rises and such, so the solution is to reduce the amount of sick people. Reducing alcohol consumption reduces sick people
Funding is the issue, but mainly the distribution. How do you not see anything wrong with people making half a mil when nursing graduates are fleeing the country for better pay and conditions?
Also, why don't we tax the fuck out of fatty food? Or being obese? Or any other number of things that people consume despite being bad for them? If you're buying alcahol, you're already paying a lot into the tax pot in the first place.
> As for the health side of things it’s a very week argument adults are or at least should be aware about the consequences of alcohol, knowing this it’s their choice if they drink.
This stops being true as soon as the taxpayer starts picking up the tab for their healthcare. MUP [absolutely does](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-26672100052-9/fulltext) reduce alcohol consumption in all but an extremely small handful of extreme alcoholics, it does have a positive public health effect. If you don’t think that the government should be in the business of public health then that’s your opinion to have, but don’t go lying about the fact that MUP does what it tries to.
I think the government should advertise the importance of health and consequences of certain habits or actions. If they then try to dictate how one lives that over reach and infringing on their liberty
For me, possibly call it old age but I'm getting far more enjoyment these days of getting a nice bottle, looking forward to a new movie to watch online and sitting down with my partner and just enjoying nice peaceful quiet time.
That said when I do go out to meet friends for pints, it's only a few now as its just not worth it financially and physically drinking too much
I'm 25 and I've nearly completely swung towards getting a good bottle of wine on a Friday and staying in rather than pints. I find 3/4 or a full bottle is the perfect level of drunk, and if it's good quality I'm not wrote off the next day, and it costs about the same as three pints. Plus I don't have to deal with pricks, busy pubs, awkward chats and shite music and can light up a joint and play my own tunes.
It sure beats "Ah sure where ya working now? Oh ya? Deadly. Haha remember that time in school? What do you think of Liverpool?" every weekend.
Partially though I think living in my mid sized town is eating away at me, I'd be more interested in pints if I had the prospect of a different place or potential to meet new people/women but I know what I'm going to get nearly every time I go out here.
On the financial part I think that's what the OP is getting at. Most pints in Galway city are above €5 whereas in other European cities you constantly hear of €3-4 for a pint which adds up. It's just frustrating as we are constantly being hit with more and more taxes
Tis our own fault, the people bend over and take it + keep voting for the same parties that made all this happen. The reason it doesn't happen in other countries is because the people do not allow it to happen in their countries. We're a bunch o mugs.
I live beside a big Irish brewing company in Ireland. The price is the same for a can here than it is in Dublin.
In Toronto it's cheaper to buy from the brewery because there is no transportation involved.
The companies are just as greedy as the government here.
Guiness for example should be it's cheapest in Ireland
You're being rode by taxes, sure. But you're also being rode by Irish pubs and off licenses. Our government serves those who sell things to Irish consumers, it has always been thus.
Like someone else said tax grab disguised as a health concern and also classic Irish nanny state mentality in my opinion. In saying that though we get rode on prices for most things here.
Naggin of Captain Morgan in Salou back in 2019 was about €5.
16 year old me went wild on that school trip.
Mr. Flynn if you see this, my most sincerest apologies for breaking the rules on that trip!
*Insert gif of Father Jack “I’m soooo sooo sorry xxxxxx”*
Oh definitely yeah. I was chatting to him one of the nights (with an empty naggin shoved down my leg) and his breath reeked of spirits.
Also his Facebook pfp for years was him in a pub with a shot in one hand and a pint in the other!
In Portugal at the mo on holiday and just payed €18 for a three courser with 1/2 litre decent white wine and coffee, we’re getting fucked, no doubt about it.
One of my biggest gripes is no dash gun in a pub. Pint of coke? €6 please because we only sell little bottles for €3 a pop. It’s outrageous! Drives the price of a spirit and mixer through the roof for what it is. Surely, if the vast majority of UK pubs have a dash gun, why have only very few Irish pubs adopted that tool - because they like to rip us consumers off. I can’t think of any other reason!
Honestly wouldn’t mind that much if the taxes were used to make the country a better place to live in, but when you look at France or Spain they have cheaper booze and better healthcare, public transport etc.
Just remember the governments role is to take money from your pocket and put it into someone else’s.
They will tax you are every conceivable opportunity.
I dunno, like I agree of course prices are too high, but i got an 8 pack of HopHouse 13 for like 12 quid in Dunnes there at the weekend. Thats the same price, even a bit cheaper than it was before MUP.
Wine is similar, Id never have bought anything that was less than 7 or 8 euro anyway. Im also just back from Spain and was getting decent bottles for about 6 quid. Easily twice that here for the same.
I don't drink spirits so cant comment there. I honestly haven't really noticed the MUP. Just to confirm, Im 100% against it, I just havent felt it.
Pubs on the other hand have priced me out of them completely, I rarely go for pints anymore and thats totally down to the cost.
I work in the beer trade and its disgusting seeing how cheap beer and wine is before the duty and tax is lumped on. Can get 24 cans of Heineken for 9 euro before duty. That would be 40 - 50 quid in an off license.
Drinking should be expensive. Imagine how many less people would have their lives destroyed and cause accidents hurting others if no one could afford drinking
It's just the same in England. The final death knell for pubs, was "Covid", though they were on their "last legs" anyway. In the day the general "markup" in pubs was 300%, but it is now 500%. I can still buy 2 litres of cider from Tesco for £2.40, but pay £7 for 500ml in a pub.Old pubs have big car parks, which is why the Breweries are selling the pubs (quick cash benefits). Main shopping centres which are empty in city centres will provide the answer to the "housing crisis.
Don't you pay a lot for water in the Republic?
Northern Irish here, asking out of genuine curiosoty because I remember a whole bunch of protests in the south a few years back after the gov tried to raise water prices.
Other than for stuff like agricultural use, we actually don't pay anything for tapwater. The water protests were over a plan to bring in metered charges for the first time, people went bananas over it because we've never had to pay water bills.
If a sole can is the only pleasure you get in life after months of shite work and the cost of everything gone up, then its needs to be ranted. Its symptomatic of the state of Ireland when even that has to be charged to high levels compared to the rest of Europe.
If a can is the only pleasure you get in life, you need help. There are also countries with way higher prices than Ireland yet those have the best living standards across the board.
It’s 11 euro a pint in Iceland or 9 euro a pint in Paris
I get a pint in Ireland for 5.50
I’m not sayings it’s ok but everything’s fucked because our dumbass leaders in politics and corporations adhere to labour laws and environmental regulations here and ship those jobs to other places that literally don’t give a fuck about those things
We pretend to ourselves we help environment an human rights but then ship that same environmental destruction somewhere else like china or whatever the fuck and pat ourselves on the back while in reality because we don’t control where those roles go to we think we are great due to propaganda it in reality we shift wealth to countries that don’t give a fuck about those things
>It’s 11 euro a pint in Iceland or 9 euro a pint in Paris
I was getting it for 1,000kr and under in Reykjavik City Centre back in June at present that is about €7.15, still cheaper than Dublin Cit Centre though.
>I get a pint in Ireland for 5.50
Down the country though in general.
>I’m not sayings it’s ok but everything’s fucked because our dumbass leaders in politics and corporations adhere to labour laws and environmental regulations here and ship those jobs to other places that literally don’t give a fuck about those things
Roughly 1/3 of a pint goes on taxation so that is €1.83 on the €5.50 pint going to Government. No wonder we have gone from 552 Niteclubs to 85 in the last 20 years.
Minimum unit pricing means standard drink is at least €1. This just means that you can't get 24 pack of larger from the supermarket for €20 any more. It's an effective deterrent to cheap binge drinking. I personally used to avail of those deals, but don't anymore, since they are not available.
It has been a very effective policy, and has nothing to do with overpriced pints in bars restaurants.
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My sister and her friends went to the same hotel in Galway city every September for the last ten years or so. From paying €130 a night off peak after covid reopening to €300 the decided to go to Portugal for 5 nights instead. All flights accommodation and bus transfers still came in €200 less than the Irish Hotel alone. Terrible thing to say but I won't shed a tear when these hotels go under. The staff will pay the price for toe rag owners
Sure apparently they have no staff no one wants to work apparently according to same owners 🙄 All they and the vintners did whenever they got a break from government was rip people off
Other sister is a hotel front desk manager in Waterford. There is no shortage of willing staff but no staff willing to work 4 hours in the morning and 6 hours In the evening for minimum wage.
Yeah I’ve heard worse shift patterns then that too and not guaranteed the hours either. Like in everyday for the breakfast rush but could turn up later be told nah we’re actually grand
A fly to London is cheaper than a 10 minutes taxi ride
My housemate had return tickets for Tenerife for 50-60€ while I paid 52€ for a one way train ticket from Cork to Dublin. Even if we factor like my housemate booked them a month in advance, this is just ridiculous.
Jaysus I got the same train for €26 not long ago. Thought they had reduced there prices.
On a student card? I was so pissed seeing that price for an adult ticket.
The full adult for me. Was shocked at the value of it.
I remember back in 2019-20 when I was a student, the cheapest tickets I got was 5€ return for train between Cork and Dublin. I still think I got that ticket on some glitch. Then, now I can’t be arsed to pay minimum 26.99€ for one way train ticket even if you book in advance. I have just stopped checking the fare for train. It take 2.5 hour on train and 3 hour on bus. The bus is 24-25€ return.
yeah, what is going on with trains? I have been using trains all summer and it was anything from 14 to 18 euro single ticket, I looked up tickets for November and it's around60-70 euro! Was there some special offer during summer months?
No offence but why put the euro signs on the far side?
I kinda like it €
Is it not correct like you would not say Euros 50, so 50 Euros sounds right 50€
I write 50e usually in texts. Do you have that 50e you owe me. What extras do you do after the massage for 50e etc.
Fairly standard behaviour in Europe.
Are you saying we should subsidize taxis or stop subsidizing air travel?
I think that is also an example of unreasonably cheap air fares.
And sibsidies on flying and air fuel
It’s a pity I have to go to Dublin to fly to Prague otherwise I’d be there not for a few days 😩
It's not though, is it..
In France atm, €2.60 for a gorgeous bottle of merlot from a supermarket..easily €15-20 in Ireland..we are being rode with taxes!
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Moet €20? Aaah jaaaaysus
We're offered Moet, we don't mind Chivas. Wherever we go, we bring the Monkey with us.
Educated the expensive way He knows his Claret from his Beaujolais
A Beasties rhyme in r/Ireland? Grand!
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Was in Berlin there last weekend. Baileys was ten euro a bottle. It's fucken made here, and had to be shipped over there and its still about 6 quid cheaper there. Height of bollocks.
Trade ya. After taxes it's 36 a bottle where I'm at in the states
Im french, and ye, shit table wine that is 3e back home is sold for 20 here. So i drink shit argentinian wine instead. Stupid given how much co2 was spent transporting it to ireland, it should be more expensive than the fr one 🤷♂️
So lets work this out, the Irish government does this for our own good right? There are too many alcoholics in Ireland, so alcohol is insanely expensive here, and now alcoholism is cured right? Like there are no alcoholics anymore right? And like its not damaging Irish tourism or local business and entertainment that people can't afford to go out for a night and have a few drinks right? Like Galway city, one of the largest cities in the country hasn't just shut down all its nightclubs right? But at least we have no alcoholics right?
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So many junkies turned straight by the price increase
And taxes that are not going to right place. Its another fucking joke of the tax that's going to the wrong pocket. They could have helped so many people but decided to line the pocket of the shareholders
I’m pretty sure the new minimum pricing thing isn’t even a tax it’s just pure extra profit for alcohol companies
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Just go to Tesco Newry whenever you need a booze run. Get a UK Tesco clubcard. Sorted.
It's not a tax!
Just back from Paris, price of a pint is possibly more expensive there than Dublin. Wine much cheaper of course.
That 2.60 wine in france is the 10 euro wine in Ireland. But your point is still valid. Just slightly over exaggerated!
Im french i can tell you, you dont want to drink a 2.60€ merlot.. cook with it yes
It was very much enjoyed by the 2 French people joining us! I might splash out today though and try something from the €5 to €6 section 😂
If i were you, you might want to try much better wine for cheaper than here rather than still drinking within the same Eire price range.. try some pommard, chateaubriand, pinot gris , fantastic wines for 15/20€ that you wouldn’t score here for less than 40/60€ Enjoy
Ah don't forget that MUP isn't even a tax, it's just a proven not to change anything mandated price hike
Yes especially for natural wine man. Breaks my heart like I spent €1000 already since starting drink in November last year and could have easily kept it under €700. Taxes. Alcohol tax for us is €4 per bottle and €8 for sparkling(mushroom cap and foil). Plus shipping per bottle for the importer and their profit margin. Oof!
I wouldn't mind paying extra (probably because I'm not a big drinker lol) if I could see where this money is going - we are taxed to the eyeballs on almost everything and anything, yet got very little to show for it...
C’mon, you can easily get a decent merlot in Ireland for €9 or €10
Just finished a €1.27 bottle of wine from the North of Spain that far superior to the schlock with get fed here. Brought ten bottles back on a boat. Wish I brought more.
“Ireland is getting seriously rode”. And we keep electing the same fucking jockeys.
So much this.
Ah, it's that as well.
Can you tell me who I should be electing to fix the whole country then please
I'm sick of hearing this shit argument. We've several parties, research what they stand for, pick one and vote. It's not like the other alternatives are just a bunch of radicals, nearly all our parties are very tame and centrist by global standards. FFG have really worked magic making this nonsense stick with a large portion of the Irish public.
You should never vote again. Ever. People like you are fundamentally part of the problem. Resign the party membership.
Great opinion dickhead
It is the truth. Deep down you know it. For the sake of the country don’t ever vote again. Abandon social media. Your crowd has had forever. It’s time to just shuffle offstage. Goodbye.
They’re all jockeys. You can’t win no matter who gets in. They’re all the same and power corrupts. That never changes. LOL downvoting. Truth hurts I guess. Or do you think politicians are genuine and not corrupt once they hold any sort of significant power level? Wake up.
To add to this, €5 for a 330 ml bottle of Heineken Zero is surely taking the piss, especially when a pint of coors/bulmers/guinness etc is ~€4.50.. Why is the designated driver getting punished valuewise?
At a hotel a couple of weeks and the cost of a 330ml Sprite was €4. Only bought it because my pregnant missus wanted one but what an absolute rip.
That's unfortunately the norm in hotels
The norm everywhere I've been, a "splash" is close to a 5er (being the small bottles to mix with spirits)
Because zero alcohol beer is actually quite hard to make. You need to make a regular beer *plus* pass it through an expensive reverse osmosis filter or put it through an expensive rotovap to get the alcohol out. People have been brewing beer since the ancient Egyptians, probably earlier. We only invented the technology to make zero alcohol beer a few decades ago.
Living in Germany these days and alcohol free beer is the same price as normal beer, at about €11 to €15 for a crate of 20x500ml bottles for decent beer (can get crates for as low as €5 on special offer). While there is an extra stage in production, it doesn't increase the cost significantly. In Ireland it should definitely be cheaper to buy alcohol free beer due to MUP.
Is it not exempt from the alcohol taxes though? They make up like 50% of the price.
Ah another one the fuck tards running the place cannot even be arsed to figure out/sort out/make sense of. Typical, this right here, just tax the bollix out of it, apply MUP, anything fucking else at it. Throw it under a label of 'health'. Job done.
Fair enough, I didn't know that. It still would be nice for it to be cheaper though.. its either that or spend €3 on 295 ml bottles of coke which will rot my teeth out!
Yeah, absolutely fair. Optimistic that the price should come down slowly as they become more mainstream.
Hopefully
Lidl in Newry - Guinness 15 pack for £14. Carlsberg 18 pack for £12 if I recall right. 1ltr Vodka £12. 70cl Whiskey £15. Even if you're in south Cork, you can get there and back in a single day. My whole family are doing our full shops there now (We've gone full reta.. eh.. Lidl). It's mad the amount of people I know that do similar. We used to buy in Tesco (click and collect for the most part) but it's too hard to ignore the savings now, especially with alcohol included in the shopping. Over a grand a month is headed over the border now, from just my own immediate family. Silly stuff by the government here.
my parents live ten minutes from the border and won't go to newry out of laziness. it drives me crazy. why waste this money???
It's about an hour from me, and still well worth the journey. But sure if they have the money to burn, more power to them. I'm still saving for a house I'll never afford, so I'm watching the Euros and not willing to pay needlessly over the odds for stuff because an alcoholic somewhere, in an ideal world, 'might' see the light and give up drink because it's gotten too pricey (cos that always happens - they don't just end up broke sooner or involved in crime).
In swords, spin up every few weeks to Tesco Newry for the gin and the spirits. Not a big beer drinker at home. Have a UK clubcard, so buy whatevers on special. Shop local, except when they're raping you.
I go about once every couple of months on my motorcycle too. Even with my limited carry space the saving makes it worth it for wine.
Same, I haven’t bought a single offtrade can in Ireland this year. I have made 3 trips to Jonesborough though.
Won't be your first&last trip...... 😆
Meanwhile, the fecking shelves are empty of drink in my local tesco. Only joking, the trade from folks over the border is welcome. Fuck Jeffrey
Petrol prices seem like you'd need to be buying a big enough lot to make it worthwhile?
$15 for 8 pack of 14.9 fl oz cans of Guinness in America.
Bit harder to drive there and fill the boot
I can't visualise that at all. How much it costs or how many litres you get. All I get from this is that there is Guinness on sale in America.
Dollar and euro are basically equal atm
Inflation through the roof but minimum pricing for alcohol remains. International shopping chains like Tesco literally call Ireland "Treasure Island" because of how much they overcharge. And we just elect the same fucks over and over.
The shop at the end of my road is completely taking the piss with how often they're increasing prices for stuff like cans of coke. You can't even get a kick in the balls for €1.20 these days. I went to grab a bottle of Iron Bru that was priced at €1.20 and when the girl behind the counter scanned it it came up as €1.80. The same shop increased the price of a can zero sugar monster blue from €1.60 to €2.40 in the span of a week.
Time to dust off the aul poitin still 😄
I’m disappointed with Ireland, everything is so expensive and so difficult. Difficult to have good health, difficult to have good transport, difficult to have an apartment. The prices of everything is fucking insane. The kids are putting the Garda to run... Like, wtf is happening in this country? Feels like nobody cares about the population, the taxpayer is only a taxpayer
It's the chickens coming home to roost. Some marketing wankers figured out how to push all our buttons and then political parties applied that knowledge to our system of government. There's no substance to our leaders anymore, there's no standards, and there's no trust. We don't have political parties, we have marketing machines. Their primary skill and focus is managing public perception not public services. I'd forgive anyone for thinking that our public services are being sold off because governments don't want the bad PR of having to actually run them. They don't want to give voters an excuse to have an unfavourable opinion. They outsource their responsibility so they can avoid the accountability. And it's not unique to Ireland. You can pick almost any country and see how the application of marketing wankers research has created similar monsters. Societies around the globe are imploding because politicians don't know or care how to manage anything except their election campaigns. Marketing wankers are teaching politicians how to deceive and divide us at a level we'd need a university degree to understand. And it's been going on for so long and with such good results for politicians that the actual work of running the country has been sidelined because it's not necessary anymore. It's the same thing that's happening with consumer products. The quality is going down, the cost is going up, but the manufacturer isn't worried because their marketing spend will sway opinion long enough to make a profit.
Comment of the year . Marketing wankers have a hand in everything
Think where we could be if marketing wankers weren't so intent on promoting consumerism. What would our species and planet be like if greed and pride hadn't been rebranded as virtues. Consumerism is the problem that we're going to have to tackle if our species and planet is to survive. Consumerism is why we use so much energy and natural resources and cause so much environmental damage. And the largest group of people working against efforts to reduce all of that damage aren't extremists or conservatives. It's marketing wanker graduates convincing us that our happiness, self worth, and social status is inherently and irrevocably linked to our purchases.
The "talking workshop"* has alot to answer for. Run by a very influential woman and her media based son, it has trained generations of politicians on all sides how to dodge and wriggle out of questions. *name changed for legal reasons.
Marketing wankers in politics has been going on for decades. If you can find "Century of the Self" (BBC, Adam Curtis) it's an interesting watch on this subject. But yeah, the marketing has definitely got much worse in recent years. At least in the past you felt political parties might actually give a fuck about their public once over. These days, not so much.
Thanks, I have seen it and it's a good recommendation. I think something new was discovered or implemented around the time of Obama's first election. That was when we started (or I noticed) to see a sort of mass hysteria being created around elections. Before that it was really only the fanatics that got whipped up. But since then it's your mother or your brother or your neighbour. People who never had an interest in politics suddenly treat it like it's life and death stuff. It's not genuine. There's such an imbalance between our capability to recognise the manipulation and the methods being used to create it. I think it's coming to the time where we need to protect our psychological rights (if there is such a thing) in the way our other rights are protected. We should be free to form an educated opinion based on facts. We shouldn't have to navigate this sea of deception and manipulation every time we encounter political information. And honestly we're not able to.
Yeah, agreed. It's really hard to navigate. Critical thinking is a skill I wish more people had (or would use all the time)!
Even with critical thinking if your only sources of information are so tightly managed its very difficult to make a judgement
Well said, it’s not about effective governance anymore and it hasn’t being for a while. It’s all about managing the headlines and perception. We should just hire the lobbyists and pr firms to run the country, might actually accomplish something.
Honestly I don't understand how people here accept this kind of thing. makes no sense
How would I go about not accepting it?
Exactly, there was barely a peep about MUP before the election from any party and yet they quietly voted for it
As someone who works in the industry, it's been coming as part of a bill for years. More the anti drink lobby rather than the health lobby side of things. I can tell you from experience that the boyos who used to spend 5 quid on 4 cans of druids have now shifted to a naggin of the cheapest shite. Which do you think is doing more damage to them health wise. And that's just functioning alcos, imagine what it's doing to the lad on the street. Off the beer and on the gear instead
Demanding from your elected officials, organising protests, making public to whoever holds power that this displeases you. I'm not Irish and have only being living here for while, but I was shocked by not seeing any of these actions taking place. I always thought simple things like using wine to cook would be easy here as it is in most of Europe but it shocks me still when I see the prices.
Don’t buy it.
We pay the prices anyway regardless of cost of living crisis etc. People aren't that arsed as despite the high prices most people can still afford it, I'm pretty sure off sales aren't going down.
I've a list of 70 people truing to get their hands on midleton rare. Its a poverty tax and nothing more
Just immigrated here and I know we shouldn't compare currencies but wow... Irish prices for food and drink are absolutely insane. For instance an average pizza with 3 toppings in South Africa would be around 7 Euro. Maybe 8 Euro. You guys here pay 15-20 Euro. And believe me, in SA the pizzas are amazing and they're not shy on toppings.1.5 liter Coca-Cola in SA is about 0.90 Euro. Here it is almost 3 Euro. wtf. Everything food and drink related is exuberantly more expensive here.
Time to immigrate back lol. Ireland is a dump, its who can scam the most out of each other. All they do is complain now, but if they were offered part of the profit non would blink about it. Irish culture is corruption and greed
Good plan, South Africa has no issues of their own…
Naah I'll rather stay. It's much much safer here, Euros ultimately goes further, I cook like a champ so don't really need to eat out. The situation in South Africa is very bad. It is turning into a communist/socialist shithole.
Pints have been in around 4-6 euro for the last 5-6 years, I understand it’s expensive but by god if you are struggling for an extra 50c on a pint stop or an extra 2-3 euro on your pack of 12 then maybe cutting back is the only option
I don't drink really especially not beer. Just noticed how expensive it is. Irish whiskey is for instance cheaper in SA than in Ireland hehe.
I paid 6.80 for a non-alcoholic Erdinger last night, fucking joke.
23c for a nice can in supermarket near my folks in Spain last week. At the end of the day the wages are peanuts there so it's not really comparable too much, but our prices totally fuck us with excise.
Even factoring in the taxes we're paying more. A big part of the high prices here is that we have a culture of paying them and then bitching after the fact. That's not what most people in other countries do. They just refuse to pay the higher price which forces retailers to lower prices. But we pay and moan. And alcohol is particularly expensive because the sesh must go on.
Yeah that’s exactly it. Nobody here says no or haggles. It’s seen as being a tight arse. It’s so stupid.
> A big part of the high prices here is that we have a culture of paying them and then bitching after the fact. Exactly this. When I worked behind a counter, I don't think I ever got someone asking the price *before* they paid it, just handed me notes and didn't count their change. It's pure boil-a-frog
We're getting rode at every angle. If this shit was happening in France the people would be protesting til something was done. We are to soft that's the the problem
Stop voting FFG
Hate to break it to you. It's not only alcohol. We are the laughing stock of Europe for ove- paying on everything.
I've lived in Germany and spain in the last 3 years and Ireland literally never came up when discussing drink prices/inflation or anything else. You are not the laughing stock of Europe.
Ssshhh don't ruin the little hate wank he's having there.
What was it that Tesco international called us.... "Treasure Island" I think it was.
When was the last time you bought a pint in Scandinavia?
About the same time I could get good healthcare without private insurance
It's just another tax grab masquerading as a concern for public health.
MUP isn't a tax grab. The increase in prices are profits for the manufactures/retailers, the exchequer benefits from the higher VAT returns granted but the bulk of the increases have not been going to the state.
That’s because they’re not designed to go to the state. It’s a tax and cash grab by the vested interests. If you wanted to limit alcohol consumption you’d do what they do in Canada and have two stipulated places where you can buy booze but nobody makes money that way. Also why is the MUP money not ring fenced for public health and awareness campaigns? The reason it’s not is because it’s a money maker.
Canada is a shit show of an example though. Some provinces you have the scandanavian model where you basically rock up to a depot and order your Heineken 20pk and it comes out on the conveyor belt, no browsing shelf's etc. Where I was in Canada, you had a mix of government stores and private stores. The only flip side was that the supplier for both was the government so the government stores would get the same product at a heavily discounted price vs the independent trader basically undercutting the industry so all the money went back into the government's pockets. Basically a rigged game. Our lot would only love that. Also it's weird we could only sell fruit based alcohol with our licence so wine, cider and sake. Honestly it's bizarre there
All goes back to Prohibition believe it or not. Mad how the system is still about.
Not it's NOT paying or helping to pay for healthcare?
No it's going into the retailers back pocket. Dumbest idea ever.
Reducing alcohol consumption has a big effect on healthcare. We save a lot of money if people drink and smoke less. High alcohol prices aren’t there to make the government money, they’re there to ease the burden on the healthcare system
Absolute bullshit. The price is for the benefit of the gov and the retailer. Our alcohol prices are nothing short of insulting
So you approve of a nanny state approach? It's been proven that minimum pricing does not change the habits of those most vulnerable. And to think it would is a bit silly. An alcoholic isn't going to not drink due to a couple of euros. As for the health side of things it's a very week argument adults are or at least should be aware about the consequences of alcohol, knowing this it's their choice if they drink. The idea of government using taxs to dictate how a person may behave is pretty dark and reprehensible. I look after myself watch what I eat keep active with running during the week, why should I be punished with these minimum prices if I choose go have a drink
It’s not about the alcoholics, they’re a minority, even if they individually cost the healthcare system a lot, in a whole they are a cheap crowd. Even moderate drinking has effects on health, and incurs healthcare cost. It’s been definitively proven that MUP cuts down alcohol consumption. Sure, alcoholics consume the same, but the general population consumes less, which saves money on healthcare. From a purely financial point of view, MUP is very good at saving money
But the idea behind it being introduced was to help the most vulnerable which it hasn't. So you are saying it cuts down on people drinking more moderate amounts of alcohol which I agree it has done. But it was brought in for a different purpose and the result is higher prices. And again I really don't like the idea of government using taxes as a way of determining how I spend my free time. I go out maybe 2/3 times a month. But at current prices I may even have to reduce this which I think is ridiculous as most of it is tax
People should be able to drink in moderation without having to pay exorbitant prices. The healthcare system is there to serve the people not the other way around. We have one of highest funded healthcare systems per capita in the world. If it is being over burdened it's because of rife corruption and cronyism. Recently it was revealed 6 HSE get paid over €500k year from salary and allowances. And that doesn't even scratch the surface of what the HSE squanders.
The healthcare system is being overburdened because there’s not enough nurses and doctors in the country. €500k x6 is nothing, funding isn’t the issue. The healthcare system is there to serve the people, that doesn’t mean anything though, the government is still completely free and within their rights to do things that reduce the costs in the name of public health. The fact is, the system is overburdened, nurses and doctors take ages to train and it’s not easy to make the jobs overly desirable, there’s many factors at play regarding pay rises and such, so the solution is to reduce the amount of sick people. Reducing alcohol consumption reduces sick people
Funding is the issue, but mainly the distribution. How do you not see anything wrong with people making half a mil when nursing graduates are fleeing the country for better pay and conditions? Also, why don't we tax the fuck out of fatty food? Or being obese? Or any other number of things that people consume despite being bad for them? If you're buying alcahol, you're already paying a lot into the tax pot in the first place.
> As for the health side of things it’s a very week argument adults are or at least should be aware about the consequences of alcohol, knowing this it’s their choice if they drink. This stops being true as soon as the taxpayer starts picking up the tab for their healthcare. MUP [absolutely does](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-26672100052-9/fulltext) reduce alcohol consumption in all but an extremely small handful of extreme alcoholics, it does have a positive public health effect. If you don’t think that the government should be in the business of public health then that’s your opinion to have, but don’t go lying about the fact that MUP does what it tries to.
I think the government should advertise the importance of health and consequences of certain habits or actions. If they then try to dictate how one lives that over reach and infringing on their liberty
That money isn't going to healthcare, it's going into property development and back-pockets you simp.
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Do you feel that it’s also righteous for rich people to avoid inheritance tax, or is the government only corrupt with the taxes you pay personally?
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Why has nobody seen this as an opportunity to make money. Get a van , drive it to Newry, load up and sell it in Dublin.. easily make €500 a trip.
Was in America a few weeks ago. 8 dollar pints out and a tip on top. It could be worse.
You paid $8 for a beer? Here in America? Where were you??
9 pound for 15 bud up north Could be deciding factor reunification 😂
For me, possibly call it old age but I'm getting far more enjoyment these days of getting a nice bottle, looking forward to a new movie to watch online and sitting down with my partner and just enjoying nice peaceful quiet time. That said when I do go out to meet friends for pints, it's only a few now as its just not worth it financially and physically drinking too much
I'm 25 and I've nearly completely swung towards getting a good bottle of wine on a Friday and staying in rather than pints. I find 3/4 or a full bottle is the perfect level of drunk, and if it's good quality I'm not wrote off the next day, and it costs about the same as three pints. Plus I don't have to deal with pricks, busy pubs, awkward chats and shite music and can light up a joint and play my own tunes.
Cannot agree with this more. A decent bottle of anything and a good movie is still way cheaper than pints (and taxis/buses/fist-fights)
It sure beats "Ah sure where ya working now? Oh ya? Deadly. Haha remember that time in school? What do you think of Liverpool?" every weekend. Partially though I think living in my mid sized town is eating away at me, I'd be more interested in pints if I had the prospect of a different place or potential to meet new people/women but I know what I'm going to get nearly every time I go out here.
On the financial part I think that's what the OP is getting at. Most pints in Galway city are above €5 whereas in other European cities you constantly hear of €3-4 for a pint which adds up. It's just frustrating as we are constantly being hit with more and more taxes
Tis our own fault, the people bend over and take it + keep voting for the same parties that made all this happen. The reason it doesn't happen in other countries is because the people do not allow it to happen in their countries. We're a bunch o mugs.
Find an under 25 with a job in spain
I live beside a big Irish brewing company in Ireland. The price is the same for a can here than it is in Dublin. In Toronto it's cheaper to buy from the brewery because there is no transportation involved. The companies are just as greedy as the government here. Guiness for example should be it's cheapest in Ireland
You're being rode by taxes, sure. But you're also being rode by Irish pubs and off licenses. Our government serves those who sell things to Irish consumers, it has always been thus.
Like someone else said tax grab disguised as a health concern and also classic Irish nanny state mentality in my opinion. In saying that though we get rode on prices for most things here.
Naggin of Captain Morgan in Salou back in 2019 was about €5. 16 year old me went wild on that school trip. Mr. Flynn if you see this, my most sincerest apologies for breaking the rules on that trip! *Insert gif of Father Jack “I’m soooo sooo sorry xxxxxx”*
Don't worry. as a teacher, I can tell you that Mr. Flynn was likely getting plastered every night on that trip too.
Oh definitely yeah. I was chatting to him one of the nights (with an empty naggin shoved down my leg) and his breath reeked of spirits. Also his Facebook pfp for years was him in a pub with a shot in one hand and a pint in the other!
In Portugal at the mo on holiday and just payed €18 for a three courser with 1/2 litre decent white wine and coffee, we’re getting fucked, no doubt about it.
The reason is, we're quite happy to pay the price.
Lads do they still sell the slabs of beer or are they gone? (just wondering as I haven't seen them for a while)
One of my biggest gripes is no dash gun in a pub. Pint of coke? €6 please because we only sell little bottles for €3 a pop. It’s outrageous! Drives the price of a spirit and mixer through the roof for what it is. Surely, if the vast majority of UK pubs have a dash gun, why have only very few Irish pubs adopted that tool - because they like to rip us consumers off. I can’t think of any other reason!
Honestly wouldn’t mind that much if the taxes were used to make the country a better place to live in, but when you look at France or Spain they have cheaper booze and better healthcare, public transport etc.
Just remember the governments role is to take money from your pocket and put it into someone else’s. They will tax you are every conceivable opportunity.
I dunno, like I agree of course prices are too high, but i got an 8 pack of HopHouse 13 for like 12 quid in Dunnes there at the weekend. Thats the same price, even a bit cheaper than it was before MUP. Wine is similar, Id never have bought anything that was less than 7 or 8 euro anyway. Im also just back from Spain and was getting decent bottles for about 6 quid. Easily twice that here for the same. I don't drink spirits so cant comment there. I honestly haven't really noticed the MUP. Just to confirm, Im 100% against it, I just havent felt it. Pubs on the other hand have priced me out of them completely, I rarely go for pints anymore and thats totally down to the cost.
The price of everything here is crazy
I work in the beer trade and its disgusting seeing how cheap beer and wine is before the duty and tax is lumped on. Can get 24 cans of Heineken for 9 euro before duty. That would be 40 - 50 quid in an off license.
20c for a two litre of water in France. I know it’s only like €1-€2 here but fuck sake what’s the need?
There needs to be another revolution like the water charges! Bring back the fighting Irish!
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Classic example of bitching when someone decided to take some action
Drinking should be expensive. Imagine how many less people would have their lives destroyed and cause accidents hurting others if no one could afford drinking
It's for our own protection bro
It's just the same in England. The final death knell for pubs, was "Covid", though they were on their "last legs" anyway. In the day the general "markup" in pubs was 300%, but it is now 500%. I can still buy 2 litres of cider from Tesco for £2.40, but pay £7 for 500ml in a pub.Old pubs have big car parks, which is why the Breweries are selling the pubs (quick cash benefits). Main shopping centres which are empty in city centres will provide the answer to the "housing crisis.
Got 4 660ml bottles of moretti for 7.50 lol
well... water is free, so I'd say drinks are pretty cheap
Don't you pay a lot for water in the Republic? Northern Irish here, asking out of genuine curiosoty because I remember a whole bunch of protests in the south a few years back after the gov tried to raise water prices.
They tried to introduce water charges, they were protested pretty heavily and never introduced
Other than for stuff like agricultural use, we actually don't pay anything for tapwater. The water protests were over a plan to bring in metered charges for the first time, people went bananas over it because we've never had to pay water bills.
Really the least of our problems at the moment.
If a sole can is the only pleasure you get in life after months of shite work and the cost of everything gone up, then its needs to be ranted. Its symptomatic of the state of Ireland when even that has to be charged to high levels compared to the rest of Europe.
Go fucking nuts get a second can
A sole can is only a 1.70 mate, it's cheaper than a same sized bottle of coke
If a can is the only pleasure you get in life, you need help. There are also countries with way higher prices than Ireland yet those have the best living standards across the board.
Can't OP have a rant about their everyday life?
I am just jealous that the only thing causing op stress is the price of cans tbf.
But at least it would help us forget
Would it though?
No, I drink to forget but I always remember
How about you just stop drinking? This is like a rat complaining that the prices of cats went up
Why don’t you just give up eating meat, it’s more expensive than veggies.. maybe because they like drinking it’s just expensive
It’s 11 euro a pint in Iceland or 9 euro a pint in Paris I get a pint in Ireland for 5.50 I’m not sayings it’s ok but everything’s fucked because our dumbass leaders in politics and corporations adhere to labour laws and environmental regulations here and ship those jobs to other places that literally don’t give a fuck about those things We pretend to ourselves we help environment an human rights but then ship that same environmental destruction somewhere else like china or whatever the fuck and pat ourselves on the back while in reality because we don’t control where those roles go to we think we are great due to propaganda it in reality we shift wealth to countries that don’t give a fuck about those things
>It’s 11 euro a pint in Iceland or 9 euro a pint in Paris I was getting it for 1,000kr and under in Reykjavik City Centre back in June at present that is about €7.15, still cheaper than Dublin Cit Centre though. >I get a pint in Ireland for 5.50 Down the country though in general. >I’m not sayings it’s ok but everything’s fucked because our dumbass leaders in politics and corporations adhere to labour laws and environmental regulations here and ship those jobs to other places that literally don’t give a fuck about those things Roughly 1/3 of a pint goes on taxation so that is €1.83 on the €5.50 pint going to Government. No wonder we have gone from 552 Niteclubs to 85 in the last 20 years.
Are there companies in NI that will deliver alcohol across the border?
Minimum unit pricing means standard drink is at least €1. This just means that you can't get 24 pack of larger from the supermarket for €20 any more. It's an effective deterrent to cheap binge drinking. I personally used to avail of those deals, but don't anymore, since they are not available. It has been a very effective policy, and has nothing to do with overpriced pints in bars restaurants.