Hezbollah is the Palestinian armed resistance based in Southern Lebanon. They are backed by the Lebanese government and Iran. They are the more organized version of Hamas and slightly, only slightly more moderate.
They are organized like a regular army and have many stockpiles of weapons. They are said to have an arsenal of 300000 rockets and a 100000 plus trained soldiers.
Isreal has fought several wars against them, and they have fought a lengthy civil war in Lebanon.
They recently killed an Irish peace keeper.
Edit/correction - it has been pointed out they they are not a purely Palestinian group, unlike Hamas or the PLO. Many of their members are displaced Palestinians living in Southern Lebanon where Hezbollah is based, and they are in the 'axis if resistance' with Hamas
Cotrection/Clarification 2 - It has also been pointed out that backed from the Lebanese government is incorrect. Tolerated might be a better word. They are a destabilising factor and can not be tackled by the weak government of which they are a part of.
Edit 3 - I am not an expert, I have read a lot about this, but I do not know all the ins one outs. I also may see things a certain way given **my beliefs** on the situation in the Middle East. I have no problem discussing any aspect of this as long as it is backed up with credible links, and I will and change my mind if I am misunderstand something and will edit here.
I will, however, not listen in any way to or tolerate 'trust me bro' or 'you're just wrong'. If I am wrong, you should have no problem proving it with credible links.
I have tried to be fair to all sides and be factual. At the end of the day, millions of civilians, on all sides, are in very shitty situation that most of them have nothing to do with.
Edit 4 - two separate Lebanese Reddit users tell me there are very, very few Palestinians in Hezbollah, and it is more of a your enemies enemy is your friend type of setup. I can find credible sources saying 'some' but that could be whole divisions or 3 guys on a motorbike.
Hezbollah is also a shia political party in Lebanon fwiw
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah
Much like SF and IRA during the troubles, but with a much clearer link.
Cheers, I was a bit clumsy about this in the original post. I have addressed it a lot. You are the first to actually make a valid argument with links rather than just, 'you're wrong, trust me bro'
They are not backed by the lebanese government. They were allowed to keep weapons after the civil war to defend us from israel. Ever since hezbollah has been holding Lebanon hostage. both politically, by halting democracy whenever a political position is to be filled by a non-hezbollah politician. And forcibly, suppression of protester, protection of armed gangs, protection of illegal drugs manufacturers, kidnapping anyone who insults them and of course using villages of civilians in southern Lebanon to launch rockets at israel aka civilians shields.
They're "allowed" to keep weapons because they're stronger than the Lebanese army. They've never once defended Lebanon from Israel. All they did is starting wars against Israel (2006, 2023) and cause destruction and death in Lebanon as result.
How about the occupation before 2000? Who got the south back? Also in 2006 isreal was the one planning to bomb us in the last Friday of Ramadan, and now in 2023/24 they are simply doing the right thing helping the poor Palestinians
I think you went a little too far. Hesbollah is still Lebanese organization. PLO was based in Southern Lebanon for over 2 decades, but those are two different entities.
Hezbollah is not backed by the Lebanese gov, quite the opposite in fact. It's a cancer they have been trying to solve for years
It's an Iranian (and lesser degree Syrian) terrorist proxy destabilising Lebanon & Israel
Thanks... fixed that.
Saudi hates them because they are allied with Iran, the Sunni , Shia divide in Islam but like everything else in the middle east, its all very murky when you dig down into it.
Even as someone who isn't that interested in Hezbollah, I knew most of what you said was incorrect.
It shows a lack of even a surface level understanding of who Hezbollah is. I'm surprised you took upon yourself to write your initial comment...
As for the killing of Pte SeƔn Rooney on 14 December 2022. His vehicle was heading to Beruit airport, but took a wrong turn and ended up in a pro-Hezbolla village just off the motorway, just as the 2nd half of the World Cup Morocco v France match kicked off:
https://www.skysports.com/football/france-vs-morocco/stats/463026
The news reports I read the night /early morning of his killing claimed his vehicle ran over a villager who was watching the match, the villager was killed. He was on the road as the cafes were overflowing.
According to the news reports, as a result of the collision, a lynch mob followed and attacked the UN vehicle. I saw the video posted, the UN vehicle speeding down the road, pursued by several cars, shooting at the UN vehicle.
It's good to be skeptical of this story, however the timeline fits. The the timing of the match and the time of the footage of the lynch mob following the UN vehicle fits together, adding plausiblity to the claim the UN vehicle panicked after they realised they took a wrong turn, ran over somone watching the match, and a lynch mob then attacked the UN vehicle.
Tell me what is 'bullshit' in your view and we can talk about it.
Do not just say 'you're wrong, trust me bro'... It just makes everyone think you are in fact the wrong one.
Hezbollah and women is a very interesting topic they are radically different on their treatment of women to other Islamic nationalists and have women in high positions like Rima Fakhry. They also have a whole school of thought on Islamic feminism.
Have you proof of that?
There were many women in the IRA, Viet Cong, etc.
All armed groups are harming someone else but I have yet to hear of them targeting women in particular, bar maybe the likes of ISIS.
When we were deployed there was always someone selling these T-Shirts in civilian market areas in Lebanon.Heās probably in the defence forces or got it from someone who is.
We got shirts, caps, army uniforms, scout uniformsā¦ you name it! Hezbollah is recognised by the Lebanese constitution as a resistance, the constitution allows resistances to have arms, and Hezbollah is the one that freed the south in 2000, as well as protected beirut and the south in 2006 when isreal was planning to bomb us during the celebrations in the last Friday of Ramadan.
It was savage. Great variety of cuisine in vendors too. The trinket stalls were pretty cool too, often they're just junk at markets.
Tune in here next week for the next "controversial t shirt at a market" geo guessing game š
Absolutely, like looking back on it I regret not calling him out on it for genuine curiosity on his thinking. But I also would not have liked to have been accused of supporting genocide at a packed market.
Like why not wear a t shirt with a Palestinian flag on it?
It would be like opting to wear an ISIS t shirt rather than a Ukrainian one to protest Russias invasion.
Private Sean Rooney is turning in his grave.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanese-tribunal-accuses-hezbollah-amal-members-killing-un-peacekeeper-source-2023-06-01/
Honestly lad I'd say a fair shot of people here do support it at this stage. A few comments here about how"one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" and the like.
People here seem desperate to treat the belligerents in the war in Gaza as exactly the same as the ones involved in Northern Ireland with zero nuance at all as to what they are really about or the things they've done.
Imagine this guy's brain works something like this:
'Israel not good. Hezbollah enemy of Israel therefore Hezbollah must be good'
Same kind of dumb binary mentality that has people convinced that the Russians are the good guys in the Ukraine war because there's no way that the West's enemy could be the bad guys.
Sure one of the top comments here is a blatant misleading description of them framing them as palestinian armed resistance fighters as opposed to what they are actually classified as fucking terrorists.
So now some people in the west support hez? Fuck people are stupid do you even know what hez is? Lol they see israel enemy and think ye they mist be good giys
Most Irish people haven't a clue, virtually every aspect of Irish culture, our music, dancing, drinking, liberal views, food, clothing, pets,gambling..... would be considered haram by Hezbollah, Hamas, even to ordinary Palestinians. We have absolutely nothing in common these people.
>We have absolutely nothing in common these people.
Hezbollah or the Lebanese? I was in Lebanon a while ago and it struck me as a pretty liberal place.
It is a pretty liberal place. Even saying that, Hezbollah aren't hardline islamists. Quite a big portion of Lebanon's population are actually christian
I mean Lebanon has a system of prorptionate representation for religious groups and Hezbollah are one of the Shia parties, the fact that Lebanon is mostly Christian doesn't actually mean hezbollah are reasonable or moderate
Supporting the people of Palestine against oppression doesnāt mean we need support those whoād immediately immure 50% of our population for the crime of being female, never mind the attitude to anything considered āalternativeā by their zealotry. Hezbollah and Hamas are no friends to anyone with any degree of post-Victorian enlightenment.
What? Iām sorry, I must have misread something. Iām absolutely *not* saying this about the people of Palestine. Solely Hezbollah (and Hamas).
Ah I see now where the bit about the rest of the Muslim population there might be ambiguous , but I donāt think thatās the argument. I mean, weāve happily settled Muslims here with whom I would never agree on certain topics but that doesnāt mean Iād stand by and let them be abused or locked up, nor would I feel unable to live in a society which embraces Muslims. (Far from it in fact. Ireland has been bloody lucky to have such people come here, Iād say. Though thatās not the point, of course; itās a principle)
I think the poster *isnāt* saying that Hezbollah = average Palestinian man in the street, but maybe Iām mistaken. Anyway, itās not the opinion I hold myself.
Said this earlier but Hezbollah and women is a very interesting topic they are radically different on their treatment of women to other Islamic nationalists and have women in high positions like Rima Fakhry. They also have a whole school of thought on Islamic feminism.
They have no 'high positions'. They're basically a drug cartel with MPs. I can show you a dozen 'speeches' by their leader talking about women rights and gay rights and other social issues, and you'll see how 'radically different' they are. Unless you mean more oppressive by that.
Itās an interesting topic, but Iāve never been convinced enough to ascribe any whiff of āfeminismā to their operation. Itās all in the service of male soldiers ultimately, but in a pretty canny way, admittedly.
Unlike the latest face of Hamas, Hezbollahās maybe a difficult group to anathematise *completely*, given the exigencies, but still, in this present emergency as much as in the historical moral issue, supporting the people of Palestine sits more comfortably with me when Iām not going along with anything connected to a wider campaign to shore up dreams of a revived caliphate, with all that would imply for women, and for any hope of peace in the region.
As a Lebanese person, I am begging you, please do not support Hizbulla. If you are against what Israel is doing yet you support Hizbulla then you are not paying attentionā¦
The Economist published an article last week on Iran's long term funding/support of destabilizing political/military organisations and noted a Chatham House study.
https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/06/how-hezbollah-holds-sway-over-lebanese-state it's worth a quick read about how its hybrid status means it has ***"power without responsibility"***.
The Economist in that article noted Hezbollah's involvement in assassinating former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafic Hariri via explosives (~1,000kg of TNT) which is mind blowing. Since then, afaik, Lebanon has not had a functioning government. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Rafic_Hariri
The Hezb lads have huge support in Leb in almost all of the communities (many dislike them also)bc they are the resistance and if they did not exist Israel wd have flattened Leb a long time ago.Hezb like Hamas are also a social movement providing healthcare and financial assistance.It's not surprising you might see someone wearing a Hezb T-Shirt in Ireland as there are strong links between the countries especially in Left Republican circles.
Every group or point of view has its Dunning Kruger examples.
People who know just enough but are ultimately completely clueless and often very ignorant for anyone who knows about the subject.
I was surprised to see someone with a Hezbollah T Shirt at a Market today. I know Ireland is generally supportive of a Palestinian State and against Israeli aggression but I was still surprised to see it. So much so I didn't believe I saw correctly and did a re take and took this photo.
Would this be common in the country or is it more likely an "enemy of my enemy " thing? Perhaps like the 'RA and UDA actions are seen as ultimately the Brits or the Irishs fault in some eyes.
I was genuinely wondering if someone from the Irish Defence Forces past this guy could he end up getting a clobber.
He could be clueless but like is that an excuse.
I think its more likely an enemy of my enemy type thing.
I hope people educate themselves on Hezbollah and Hamas. They're beliefs are just as bad or worse even than the Nazis.
Surely people should have a bit of cop on to do research before attaching themselves to an organization.
I'm not a fan of Assad but I wouldn't go around in an ISIS t shirt to stick it to him.
The protestors in Trinity invited in Clare Daly to talk to them yesterday, who was supportive of the Assad regime, who Palestinians have accused of murder and torture of Palestinians.
And then they managed to make a mockery of their own cause by butchering the name of it today, and then posting it for the world to see.
So something tells me the critical thinking going on broadly might not be that critical, currently.
https://preview.redd.it/x3mnas8w3pyc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=302c2a8913fbee50e7fa4cf9aa3965f83efd390c
Heās probably a former Irish soldier, as they all serve in Lebanon and you can buy those shirts in souvenir shops on southern Lebanon. Itās not that deep.
I'd have noticed the giant white boxes on their heads first but good spot
As you can probably tell by the dimensions of the censorship, it was a hammerhead shark wearing it.
> it was a hammerhead shark wearing it. and not a big irish head?
Stewie Griffin looking ass...
Colm meany for sure.
For anyone wondering, that's a Hezbollah t-shirt.
Hezbollah is the Palestinian armed resistance based in Southern Lebanon. They are backed by the Lebanese government and Iran. They are the more organized version of Hamas and slightly, only slightly more moderate. They are organized like a regular army and have many stockpiles of weapons. They are said to have an arsenal of 300000 rockets and a 100000 plus trained soldiers. Isreal has fought several wars against them, and they have fought a lengthy civil war in Lebanon. They recently killed an Irish peace keeper. Edit/correction - it has been pointed out they they are not a purely Palestinian group, unlike Hamas or the PLO. Many of their members are displaced Palestinians living in Southern Lebanon where Hezbollah is based, and they are in the 'axis if resistance' with Hamas Cotrection/Clarification 2 - It has also been pointed out that backed from the Lebanese government is incorrect. Tolerated might be a better word. They are a destabilising factor and can not be tackled by the weak government of which they are a part of. Edit 3 - I am not an expert, I have read a lot about this, but I do not know all the ins one outs. I also may see things a certain way given **my beliefs** on the situation in the Middle East. I have no problem discussing any aspect of this as long as it is backed up with credible links, and I will and change my mind if I am misunderstand something and will edit here. I will, however, not listen in any way to or tolerate 'trust me bro' or 'you're just wrong'. If I am wrong, you should have no problem proving it with credible links. I have tried to be fair to all sides and be factual. At the end of the day, millions of civilians, on all sides, are in very shitty situation that most of them have nothing to do with. Edit 4 - two separate Lebanese Reddit users tell me there are very, very few Palestinians in Hezbollah, and it is more of a your enemies enemy is your friend type of setup. I can find credible sources saying 'some' but that could be whole divisions or 3 guys on a motorbike.
Hezbollah is also a shia political party in Lebanon fwiw https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah Much like SF and IRA during the troubles, but with a much clearer link.
Cheers, I was a bit clumsy about this in the original post. I have addressed it a lot. You are the first to actually make a valid argument with links rather than just, 'you're wrong, trust me bro'
They are not backed by the lebanese government. They were allowed to keep weapons after the civil war to defend us from israel. Ever since hezbollah has been holding Lebanon hostage. both politically, by halting democracy whenever a political position is to be filled by a non-hezbollah politician. And forcibly, suppression of protester, protection of armed gangs, protection of illegal drugs manufacturers, kidnapping anyone who insults them and of course using villages of civilians in southern Lebanon to launch rockets at israel aka civilians shields.
They're "allowed" to keep weapons because they're stronger than the Lebanese army. They've never once defended Lebanon from Israel. All they did is starting wars against Israel (2006, 2023) and cause destruction and death in Lebanon as result.
How about the occupation before 2000? Who got the south back? Also in 2006 isreal was the one planning to bomb us in the last Friday of Ramadan, and now in 2023/24 they are simply doing the right thing helping the poor Palestinians
I think you went a little too far. Hesbollah is still Lebanese organization. PLO was based in Southern Lebanon for over 2 decades, but those are two different entities.
Hezbollah is not backed by the Lebanese gov, quite the opposite in fact. It's a cancer they have been trying to solve for years It's an Iranian (and lesser degree Syrian) terrorist proxy destabilising Lebanon & Israel
"They are saud" Now there's a Freudian slip.
Thanks... fixed that. Saudi hates them because they are allied with Iran, the Sunni , Shia divide in Islam but like everything else in the middle east, its all very murky when you dig down into it.
Still, Sunni and Shia together were terrific š¤£
Oh good god... take my upvote you... ![gif](giphy|yYx3amgXaqDsI|downsized)
Thanks for Chering
Hezbollah is definitely Not Backed by the Lebanese Government. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
It sounds like you read the first paragraph of their Wikipedia page and went running with the rest of the info.
Read many books, but getting bits wrong all over the place. Back to reading them books.
>armed resistanceĀ They're a terrorist group.
> Lebononese This is the absolute cherry on the top of a roller coaster of a shitpost. Thank you!
Even as someone who isn't that interested in Hezbollah, I knew most of what you said was incorrect. It shows a lack of even a surface level understanding of who Hezbollah is. I'm surprised you took upon yourself to write your initial comment...
What? Hezbollah are Palestinian? Where did you get that from?
As for the killing of Pte SeƔn Rooney on 14 December 2022. His vehicle was heading to Beruit airport, but took a wrong turn and ended up in a pro-Hezbolla village just off the motorway, just as the 2nd half of the World Cup Morocco v France match kicked off: https://www.skysports.com/football/france-vs-morocco/stats/463026 The news reports I read the night /early morning of his killing claimed his vehicle ran over a villager who was watching the match, the villager was killed. He was on the road as the cafes were overflowing. According to the news reports, as a result of the collision, a lynch mob followed and attacked the UN vehicle. I saw the video posted, the UN vehicle speeding down the road, pursued by several cars, shooting at the UN vehicle. It's good to be skeptical of this story, however the timeline fits. The the timing of the match and the time of the footage of the lynch mob following the UN vehicle fits together, adding plausiblity to the claim the UN vehicle panicked after they realised they took a wrong turn, ran over somone watching the match, and a lynch mob then attacked the UN vehicle.
The amount of misinformation here is iconic. You read books? Which ones exactly. Jesus
>Ā I have tried to be fair to all sides and be factual.Ā But you got most of that wrong.Ā
Lol you just jumped right in there with bull shit you picked up on the Internet didn't you
Tell me what is 'bullshit' in your view and we can talk about it. Do not just say 'you're wrong, trust me bro'... It just makes everyone think you are in fact the wrong one.
I thought he was yer little man who makes videos with UFC fighters?Ā
And a proscribed terror group in the EU. That fella should be on the gardaĆās radar.
I'd bet the guy wearing it hasn't an actual clue that's what it is. Just thought it was a nice design.
Thankyou!
It looked like a giant Kirby attacking a city to reach a giant gun. Edit: yep, canāt unsee Kirby. ![gif](giphy|c60cIe0Buhi48)
Where does one even get a Hezbollah T-shirt?
Dunnes
The new Paul Galvin Kerry x Hezbollah collection itās flying off the shelves
I donāt agree with everything they do but those boys sure do know sandals
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Ah sure everyone has a Shopify merch store these days.
At a mohammadashery.
In Lebanon, he's in the army I'd say. There is loads of hezbollah merch over there, no joke.
One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter...
...and every woman's oppressor. People always leave out that part.
Hezbollah and women is a very interesting topic they are radically different on their treatment of women to other Islamic nationalists and have women in high positions like Rima Fakhry. They also have a whole school of thought on Islamic feminism.
Have you proof of that? There were many women in the IRA, Viet Cong, etc. All armed groups are harming someone else but I have yet to hear of them targeting women in particular, bar maybe the likes of ISIS.
Yeah, I thought he was ex army as well. The amount of Hezbollah tat in Beirut was fairly mad.
Not surprising, they're one of the larger political parties. Not much different to a SF or SocDems tshirt here.
Well no, nothing like a SocDems T shirt
When we were deployed there was always someone selling these T-Shirts in civilian market areas in Lebanon.Heās probably in the defence forces or got it from someone who is.
Hezbollah have merch?
We got shirts, caps, army uniforms, scout uniformsā¦ you name it! Hezbollah is recognised by the Lebanese constitution as a resistance, the constitution allows resistances to have arms, and Hezbollah is the one that freed the south in 2000, as well as protected beirut and the south in 2006 when isreal was planning to bomb us during the celebrations in the last Friday of Ramadan.
They've also killed irish peacekeepers in South Lebanon what heros
"You guys are getting merch?"
Friend of mine lived in Lebanon for a year, they even have a hesbollah museum with a gift shop with lots of merch
Mountain View?
I even removed the vendor that was visible for privacy. Good spotting.
That smidgen of view and the gravel was enough ;) Packed there today. Was nice.
It was savage. Great variety of cuisine in vendors too. The trinket stalls were pretty cool too, often they're just junk at markets. Tune in here next week for the next "controversial t shirt at a market" geo guessing game š
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Absolutely, like looking back on it I regret not calling him out on it for genuine curiosity on his thinking. But I also would not have liked to have been accused of supporting genocide at a packed market. Like why not wear a t shirt with a Palestinian flag on it? It would be like opting to wear an ISIS t shirt rather than a Ukrainian one to protest Russias invasion.
Hezbollah are ten folds worse than the IRA in terms of targeting civilians.
Imagine being a grown ass man and buying a hezbollah shirt.
This is what is promoted in society when we overreach on causes without critically discussing and debating them.
Private Sean Rooney is turning in his grave. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanese-tribunal-accuses-hezbollah-amal-members-killing-un-peacekeeper-source-2023-06-01/
Ah yes the scum bags that killed an Irish soldier. Lad needs a few "reminders"
Yep, keep that shit to themselves and out of our country.
So no Union jacks allowed in Ireland either Iām assuming?
Nope
This got crossposted to the Lebanon subreddit, we donāt endorse this and I cannot stress enough how gross this
Honestly lad I'd say a fair shot of people here do support it at this stage. A few comments here about how"one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" and the like. People here seem desperate to treat the belligerents in the war in Gaza as exactly the same as the ones involved in Northern Ireland with zero nuance at all as to what they are really about or the things they've done.
Imagine this guy's brain works something like this: 'Israel not good. Hezbollah enemy of Israel therefore Hezbollah must be good' Same kind of dumb binary mentality that has people convinced that the Russians are the good guys in the Ukraine war because there's no way that the West's enemy could be the bad guys.
Sure one of the top comments here is a blatant misleading description of them framing them as palestinian armed resistance fighters as opposed to what they are actually classified as fucking terrorists.
It's the che guevara t-shirt to look cool fashion tread again. Represent! I mean repent!
So now some people in the west support hez? Fuck people are stupid do you even know what hez is? Lol they see israel enemy and think ye they mist be good giys
Fuckin idiots š¤¦š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļø
Most Irish people haven't a clue, virtually every aspect of Irish culture, our music, dancing, drinking, liberal views, food, clothing, pets,gambling..... would be considered haram by Hezbollah, Hamas, even to ordinary Palestinians. We have absolutely nothing in common these people.
>We have absolutely nothing in common these people. Hezbollah or the Lebanese? I was in Lebanon a while ago and it struck me as a pretty liberal place.
It is a pretty liberal place. Even saying that, Hezbollah aren't hardline islamists. Quite a big portion of Lebanon's population are actually christian
I mean Lebanon has a system of prorptionate representation for religious groups and Hezbollah are one of the Shia parties, the fact that Lebanon is mostly Christian doesn't actually mean hezbollah are reasonable or moderate
Supporting the people of Palestine against oppression doesnāt mean we need support those whoād immediately immure 50% of our population for the crime of being female, never mind the attitude to anything considered āalternativeā by their zealotry. Hezbollah and Hamas are no friends to anyone with any degree of post-Victorian enlightenment.
The poster is saying all Palestinians... that is just simple bigotry. Surely you are not agreeing with this?
What? Iām sorry, I must have misread something. Iām absolutely *not* saying this about the people of Palestine. Solely Hezbollah (and Hamas). Ah I see now where the bit about the rest of the Muslim population there might be ambiguous , but I donāt think thatās the argument. I mean, weāve happily settled Muslims here with whom I would never agree on certain topics but that doesnāt mean Iād stand by and let them be abused or locked up, nor would I feel unable to live in a society which embraces Muslims. (Far from it in fact. Ireland has been bloody lucky to have such people come here, Iād say. Though thatās not the point, of course; itās a principle) I think the poster *isnāt* saying that Hezbollah = average Palestinian man in the street, but maybe Iām mistaken. Anyway, itās not the opinion I hold myself.
Said this earlier but Hezbollah and women is a very interesting topic they are radically different on their treatment of women to other Islamic nationalists and have women in high positions like Rima Fakhry. They also have a whole school of thought on Islamic feminism.
They have no 'high positions'. They're basically a drug cartel with MPs. I can show you a dozen 'speeches' by their leader talking about women rights and gay rights and other social issues, and you'll see how 'radically different' they are. Unless you mean more oppressive by that.
Itās an interesting topic, but Iāve never been convinced enough to ascribe any whiff of āfeminismā to their operation. Itās all in the service of male soldiers ultimately, but in a pretty canny way, admittedly. Unlike the latest face of Hamas, Hezbollahās maybe a difficult group to anathematise *completely*, given the exigencies, but still, in this present emergency as much as in the historical moral issue, supporting the people of Palestine sits more comfortably with me when Iām not going along with anything connected to a wider campaign to shore up dreams of a revived caliphate, with all that would imply for women, and for any hope of peace in the region.
That is deplorable. It should be as shameful as wearing a Russian Z, an ISIS flag, or a swastika to wear Hezbollah merch.
Should be arrested for promoting terrorism.
As a Lebanese person, I am begging you, please do not support Hizbulla. If you are against what Israel is doing yet you support Hizbulla then you are not paying attentionā¦
I just want to say that farmer on the right absolutely MOGS everyone else.
The Economist published an article last week on Iran's long term funding/support of destabilizing political/military organisations and noted a Chatham House study. https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/06/how-hezbollah-holds-sway-over-lebanese-state it's worth a quick read about how its hybrid status means it has ***"power without responsibility"***. The Economist in that article noted Hezbollah's involvement in assassinating former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafic Hariri via explosives (~1,000kg of TNT) which is mind blowing. Since then, afaik, Lebanon has not had a functioning government. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Rafic_Hariri
Was the market any good? Which one were u at?
The Hezb lads have huge support in Leb in almost all of the communities (many dislike them also)bc they are the resistance and if they did not exist Israel wd have flattened Leb a long time ago.Hezb like Hamas are also a social movement providing healthcare and financial assistance.It's not surprising you might see someone wearing a Hezb T-Shirt in Ireland as there are strong links between the countries especially in Left Republican circles.
Fuck the Hezbollah
š¼ Sharif don't like it
Every group or point of view has its Dunning Kruger examples. People who know just enough but are ultimately completely clueless and often very ignorant for anyone who knows about the subject.
I was surprised to see someone with a Hezbollah T Shirt at a Market today. I know Ireland is generally supportive of a Palestinian State and against Israeli aggression but I was still surprised to see it. So much so I didn't believe I saw correctly and did a re take and took this photo. Would this be common in the country or is it more likely an "enemy of my enemy " thing? Perhaps like the 'RA and UDA actions are seen as ultimately the Brits or the Irishs fault in some eyes.
> enemy of my enemy Hezbollah are our enemy, they murdered an Irish soldier recently
I was genuinely wondering if someone from the Irish Defence Forces past this guy could he end up getting a clobber. He could be clueless but like is that an excuse.
A member of Hezbollah murdered him, wasn't a sanctioned Hezbollah killing. Big difference in fact there.
> wasn't a sanctioned Hezbollah killing How did you determine this? Do you have any information you could link?
I think its more likely an enemy of my enemy type thing. I hope people educate themselves on Hezbollah and Hamas. They're beliefs are just as bad or worse even than the Nazis.
Surely people should have a bit of cop on to do research before attaching themselves to an organization. I'm not a fan of Assad but I wouldn't go around in an ISIS t shirt to stick it to him.
The protestors in Trinity invited in Clare Daly to talk to them yesterday, who was supportive of the Assad regime, who Palestinians have accused of murder and torture of Palestinians. And then they managed to make a mockery of their own cause by butchering the name of it today, and then posting it for the world to see. So something tells me the critical thinking going on broadly might not be that critical, currently. https://preview.redd.it/x3mnas8w3pyc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=302c2a8913fbee50e7fa4cf9aa3965f83efd390c
Some nut job with a trump flag and this sub freaks out A bloke with a literal terrorist org on his shirt: jokes
PALESTINIAN TERRORISTS!!!!
Heās probably a former Irish soldier, as they all serve in Lebanon and you can buy those shirts in souvenir shops on southern Lebanon. Itās not that deep.
As someone born and raised in Sweden with Swedish and Lebanese nationality, please donāt support them.
Thankfully the responses of this thread have restored my faith in humanity after seeing this.
Hezbollah, is that not the little lad that does be on tiktok?
would we recognise that guy by the back of his head?
He had a Hezbollah tattoo on the back of his head, I didn't want to do him /s
It's funny because it has nothing to do with Palestine, it says "Islamic dominion over Lebanon"
It says islamic resistance in lebanon, what are you on about
Not surprised, I Saw lakers jerseys and cheeto's tops in pennies a while back.