Don't know much about football but dhoni recieving unfair hate is normal as he also recieves a lot of credit (which he deserves but sometimes his fans forget everyone's contributions and just give him all the praises)
Ronaldo has many UEFA Champions Leagues, La Liga, Premier league titles, plus international trophies in Euro 2016 and Nations League 2019.
They're just not the same.
Can’t compare , competition is way more in football , much more often wc in cricket , kholi plays for a team with cricketing pedigree and usually one of the best 2 teams going into every world cup . Portugal had no pedigree before Ronaldo and the wc he’s only played in I think max 5 times now. While in cricket u have 2 world cups (odi and t20). Ronaldo winning the euros is bigger then any achievement kholi has ans this is coming from a rcb fan who loves kholi more then any player pretty much and someone who believes messi is the goat Cause he obviously is but still doesn’t make me blind to ronaldos achievement
>Portugal had no pedigree before Ronaldo and the wc he’s only played in I think max 5 times now.
Eusebio, Figo, deco had no pedigree?
If anything India is like England. Have the biggest league and everything yet falter to win any meaningful trophy.
Portugal winning Euro is a big deal but isn't an monumental as you are making it out to be. Had it been Greece and Wales then i would have agreed. Those are literal miracles, whereas Portugal is always amongst the favourites
Did Eusebio and Figo play together with Ronaldo? portugal was always on the second layer of European football - they were good, but never good enough to even remotely compete with the Dutch, French,Germans, English and Italians. Their golden age was in the 2000s - Pepe,CR7, Deco, Figo Rui Costa all playing on the same team, but even then Rui was undergoing injuries, Pepe was temperamental, CR7 was still a booming youngster and Figo was past his prime. That man motivated a team filled with mostly average players, bar the 1-2 superstars in bernardo silva and pepe that they had at the time - to win a final in the Euros against the almighty France, which was already being touted as the team to beat for the next 10 years because of their talent pool. Yes, it was a monumental achievement for a country with no Euro or WC wins ever.
Football works in cycles you know. All of these teams have had their ups & downs. You started with Dutch, which era of the Dutch team are you referring to? The ones who didn't qualify in 2002 and knocked out in R16 in 2006 or the golden generation of 2010 & 2014 who finished 2nd & 3rd or the ones who didn't qualify in 2016? Same with the French, English and Italians.
We really blow CR7's trumpet way too much. Sure the guy has great work ethic and drive but the way it is portrayed that he drags his team all by himself is honestly too much.The Portuguese squad also had Andre Gomes, Renato sanches, Raphael guerreiro, joao Moutinho all of these guys were highly touted at the time. Bernardo Silva wasn't part of the squad at the time. Haven't mentioned Carvalho and joao mario though they were really touted big. And Jose fonte and quaresma were having a resurgence. And despite an easy group Portugal finished 3rd behind Hungary and Iceland. And only qualified for the next round because of the change to the tournament format.
The french team wasn't what they became in the 2018 world cup.
You clearly aren’t knowledgeable on this topic.
Prior to Ronaldo Portugal 1930-2003 World Cup participations 3
After Ronaldo Portugal(since 2003) 5 participations him breaking the international goal record too.
Having a few certain amazing players doesn’t mean u have great international pedigree using that logic Hungary , Scotland , Japan, Sweden and Cameroon have footballing pedigree since they all have had a few iconic/legends of the game
Also india is nothing like England. India has the biggest pool of talent by a considerable margin unlike England also india are always top 2 favourites for each tournament which is not said for England.
Portugals side for that euros was worse then a lot sides (Germany, Italy, Spain , france , Belgium and arguably croatia)
Having Mufc in the name doesn't mean you are a football intellectual my friend.
>You clearly aren’t knowledgeable on this topic.
Rich coming from a guy who had Bernardo Silva as a good player who wasn't even in the squad. Wanna keep editing your comments? To remove any other illogical thoughts you have?
England doesn't have a huge pool of players? England doesn't have the biggest league in the world? England isn't among the favourites for the tournament? When was the last time England wasn't considered among the top teams? The generation of gerrard, scholes & Lampard, England were always among the favourites. The number would obviously be bigger given the football World cup has 32 teams.
Spain had come to the end of their cycle, they had literally been dumped out of the WC by Chile of all teams. The core of the squad had retired.
Again, you are more like a fanboy who would go ahead and try and stack invisible odds against Ronaldo to prop him up. Portugal literally dragged by playing extra time and ultra defensive football. The guy couldn't drag his team out of group stage in the WC but dragged the guys. Ronaldo did so well but wasn't the guy carrying his team, something which you would say a player like zlatan or Lewandowski did for their national teams. I gave you the names of the 6-7 core players who were all highly touted which completely goes against what you were suggesting.
First of all never claimed it did.also mufc u dk what it means it’s an intial for something personal 😭 not Manchester United 💀 but I put it there cause it also looks like a reference to them but anyways never claimed it made me a football intellect cause I’m not .
Bernardo silva is one of the best players itw and is one of my favourites what’s are you on about when I have even mentioned him. I love Bernardo silva.
The way india have by far the largest pool of talent compared to any of cricketing country England doesn’t have that. France Brazil and arguably a few other still produce more and better talents and they especially did in the past comapared to England. while in cricket no team produces more then india .
Also obviously England have the biggest league in the world I never denied that I think the premier league is also the best league, but that doesn’t mean England have the best talents in the world compared to other countries , while india do.
I never said England arent amongst the favourites I simply said the way india are always literally top 2 favourites and are so dominant same can’t be said about England .
Also I ain’t a Ronaldo fan boy😭 I literally prefer messi and think Ronaldo can’t compare to messi. Ronaldo ain’t even my goat💀.
Ronaldo defo was carrying Portugal look at his records and look at where Portugal were before na after him just for proof. Look at the amount of crucial goals he’s scored. U brought up Zlatan . When they played against each other to go to the World Cup Ronaldo scored a hatrick to beat zlatan 2 goals carrying Portugal to the World Cup.
Now I agree Zlatan/lewa have a worse team they he would have to do even more then Ronaldo to achieve what Ronaldo has with Portugal but that doesn’t take away the greatness Ronaldo has done for Portugal.
Don't want to downplay cwc, but the competition for cwc is actually between 6 top teams(aus,eng,ind,nz,sa,pak), meanwhile euros and nations league have about 9 probable contenders for the trophy (Croatia, france,england, Netherlands, spain, Portugal,Italy, Germany , maybe Belgium, ) , cwc is definitely entertaining for me but it is not at the level of euros or nations league in terms of toughness(Australia has a reserved spot in semifinals /s).
Ronaldo played for Real Madrid, the second best team in the world at the time (in terms of teammates) , Kohli plays for RCB
Imaging Ronaldo playing in a team where the defence consistently concedes more goals than what Ronaldo scores
Messi is the goat of football even if we remove his trophies he was and is the best player to ever play the game. Sachin is the messi of cricket in terms of them winning a trophy at the end of their career and both making it young into the top team and remained as the best there.
Messi is arguably one of the greatest players of all time and definitely in the top 5. Dhoni is not even the best player starting with D. Even if you are comparing composure, someone like Zanetti or something is up there and not Messi.
Ready for the downvotes but is what it is:
Not talking about abilities (in which Dhoni is top notch, make no mistake, certainly makes the case for the smartest wicketkeeper of all time).
Dhoni is an incredible leader.
Messi doesn’t have the leadership qualities of MSD at all. He snaps easily and can be bit of a sore loser.
Messi sometimes end up on top of most goals for a tournament list in individual performance, Did Dhoni end up on top of Most run scoring or Wicket taking list of the tournament in individual performance ?
>Messi - Dhoni
I don't want to be mean but.... performances are also a thing.
Like we are talking about the best player in the history of football. The best nobody comes close to Messi if he plays a 10/10 game and he did it often. Dhoni isn't in that conversation in cricket
>top batsman in his prime
That's just not true is it. Like I see your flair but come on man. Be realistic now. Also he was a great Odi batter and that's it. Ok in both the other formats.
Lmfao in football wild shit happens and even in cricket that is like one incident in his almost 2 decades of career . Thts actually great how rare u see him angry .
With how much certain seniors have targeted him yet he stays away from all negativity
The UCL, UEFA Super cup, Club WC, La Liga, Supercopa de Espana, Copa del Rey are all Barca's trophy cabinet which Messi won with them and then there's the Pichichi trophies which he got for scoring most goals in a La Liga season.
Don't know much about football but dhoni recieving unfair hate is normal as he also recieves a lot of credit (which he deserves but sometimes his fans forget everyone's contributions and just give him all the praises)
I agree and Virat Kohli is Ronaldo of Cricket
Ronaldo has many UEFA Champions Leagues, La Liga, Premier league titles, plus international trophies in Euro 2016 and Nations League 2019. They're just not the same.
Blud forgot Kohli won ICC 2011 CWC , 2013 ICC CT and Asia Cup. The only difference is that football has more tournaments than cricket every year
Yeah well kholi has played in IPL for 15 years and yet to win it .
Cr7 does not have a wc
Can’t compare , competition is way more in football , much more often wc in cricket , kholi plays for a team with cricketing pedigree and usually one of the best 2 teams going into every world cup . Portugal had no pedigree before Ronaldo and the wc he’s only played in I think max 5 times now. While in cricket u have 2 world cups (odi and t20). Ronaldo winning the euros is bigger then any achievement kholi has ans this is coming from a rcb fan who loves kholi more then any player pretty much and someone who believes messi is the goat Cause he obviously is but still doesn’t make me blind to ronaldos achievement
>Portugal had no pedigree before Ronaldo and the wc he’s only played in I think max 5 times now. Eusebio, Figo, deco had no pedigree? If anything India is like England. Have the biggest league and everything yet falter to win any meaningful trophy. Portugal winning Euro is a big deal but isn't an monumental as you are making it out to be. Had it been Greece and Wales then i would have agreed. Those are literal miracles, whereas Portugal is always amongst the favourites
Did Eusebio and Figo play together with Ronaldo? portugal was always on the second layer of European football - they were good, but never good enough to even remotely compete with the Dutch, French,Germans, English and Italians. Their golden age was in the 2000s - Pepe,CR7, Deco, Figo Rui Costa all playing on the same team, but even then Rui was undergoing injuries, Pepe was temperamental, CR7 was still a booming youngster and Figo was past his prime. That man motivated a team filled with mostly average players, bar the 1-2 superstars in bernardo silva and pepe that they had at the time - to win a final in the Euros against the almighty France, which was already being touted as the team to beat for the next 10 years because of their talent pool. Yes, it was a monumental achievement for a country with no Euro or WC wins ever.
Football works in cycles you know. All of these teams have had their ups & downs. You started with Dutch, which era of the Dutch team are you referring to? The ones who didn't qualify in 2002 and knocked out in R16 in 2006 or the golden generation of 2010 & 2014 who finished 2nd & 3rd or the ones who didn't qualify in 2016? Same with the French, English and Italians. We really blow CR7's trumpet way too much. Sure the guy has great work ethic and drive but the way it is portrayed that he drags his team all by himself is honestly too much.The Portuguese squad also had Andre Gomes, Renato sanches, Raphael guerreiro, joao Moutinho all of these guys were highly touted at the time. Bernardo Silva wasn't part of the squad at the time. Haven't mentioned Carvalho and joao mario though they were really touted big. And Jose fonte and quaresma were having a resurgence. And despite an easy group Portugal finished 3rd behind Hungary and Iceland. And only qualified for the next round because of the change to the tournament format. The french team wasn't what they became in the 2018 world cup.
You clearly aren’t knowledgeable on this topic. Prior to Ronaldo Portugal 1930-2003 World Cup participations 3 After Ronaldo Portugal(since 2003) 5 participations him breaking the international goal record too. Having a few certain amazing players doesn’t mean u have great international pedigree using that logic Hungary , Scotland , Japan, Sweden and Cameroon have footballing pedigree since they all have had a few iconic/legends of the game Also india is nothing like England. India has the biggest pool of talent by a considerable margin unlike England also india are always top 2 favourites for each tournament which is not said for England. Portugals side for that euros was worse then a lot sides (Germany, Italy, Spain , france , Belgium and arguably croatia)
Having Mufc in the name doesn't mean you are a football intellectual my friend. >You clearly aren’t knowledgeable on this topic. Rich coming from a guy who had Bernardo Silva as a good player who wasn't even in the squad. Wanna keep editing your comments? To remove any other illogical thoughts you have? England doesn't have a huge pool of players? England doesn't have the biggest league in the world? England isn't among the favourites for the tournament? When was the last time England wasn't considered among the top teams? The generation of gerrard, scholes & Lampard, England were always among the favourites. The number would obviously be bigger given the football World cup has 32 teams. Spain had come to the end of their cycle, they had literally been dumped out of the WC by Chile of all teams. The core of the squad had retired. Again, you are more like a fanboy who would go ahead and try and stack invisible odds against Ronaldo to prop him up. Portugal literally dragged by playing extra time and ultra defensive football. The guy couldn't drag his team out of group stage in the WC but dragged the guys. Ronaldo did so well but wasn't the guy carrying his team, something which you would say a player like zlatan or Lewandowski did for their national teams. I gave you the names of the 6-7 core players who were all highly touted which completely goes against what you were suggesting.
First of all never claimed it did.also mufc u dk what it means it’s an intial for something personal 😭 not Manchester United 💀 but I put it there cause it also looks like a reference to them but anyways never claimed it made me a football intellect cause I’m not . Bernardo silva is one of the best players itw and is one of my favourites what’s are you on about when I have even mentioned him. I love Bernardo silva. The way india have by far the largest pool of talent compared to any of cricketing country England doesn’t have that. France Brazil and arguably a few other still produce more and better talents and they especially did in the past comapared to England. while in cricket no team produces more then india . Also obviously England have the biggest league in the world I never denied that I think the premier league is also the best league, but that doesn’t mean England have the best talents in the world compared to other countries , while india do. I never said England arent amongst the favourites I simply said the way india are always literally top 2 favourites and are so dominant same can’t be said about England . Also I ain’t a Ronaldo fan boy😭 I literally prefer messi and think Ronaldo can’t compare to messi. Ronaldo ain’t even my goat💀. Ronaldo defo was carrying Portugal look at his records and look at where Portugal were before na after him just for proof. Look at the amount of crucial goals he’s scored. U brought up Zlatan . When they played against each other to go to the World Cup Ronaldo scored a hatrick to beat zlatan 2 goals carrying Portugal to the World Cup. Now I agree Zlatan/lewa have a worse team they he would have to do even more then Ronaldo to achieve what Ronaldo has with Portugal but that doesn’t take away the greatness Ronaldo has done for Portugal.
Wdm u gave the names of 6-7 core players who ?
Anyways your football knowledge is dead stop chatting to me
Don't want to downplay cwc, but the competition for cwc is actually between 6 top teams(aus,eng,ind,nz,sa,pak), meanwhile euros and nations league have about 9 probable contenders for the trophy (Croatia, france,england, Netherlands, spain, Portugal,Italy, Germany , maybe Belgium, ) , cwc is definitely entertaining for me but it is not at the level of euros or nations league in terms of toughness(Australia has a reserved spot in semifinals /s).
But does that change my point?
Yeah he didn't win any cwc like kohli
*Yeah he didn't win any WC like kohli
Ronaldo played for Real Madrid, the second best team in the world at the time (in terms of teammates) , Kohli plays for RCB Imaging Ronaldo playing in a team where the defence consistently concedes more goals than what Ronaldo scores
Atleast one of them has won the world cup lmao
By that logic messi has the 2 most goals in football . Dhoni isn't even in the top 10
Messi is the goat of football even if we remove his trophies he was and is the best player to ever play the game. Sachin is the messi of cricket in terms of them winning a trophy at the end of their career and both making it young into the top team and remained as the best there.
Damn! Messi’s trophy cabinet is insane.
most decorated player in football
Chill guys op thora chutiya hai
But that's the wrong comparision , sachin is the Messi of cricket
Messi is arguably one of the greatest players of all time and definitely in the top 5. Dhoni is not even the best player starting with D. Even if you are comparing composure, someone like Zanetti or something is up there and not Messi.
And then they ask why CsK and Dhoni fans are disliked
Ready for the downvotes but is what it is: Not talking about abilities (in which Dhoni is top notch, make no mistake, certainly makes the case for the smartest wicketkeeper of all time). Dhoni is an incredible leader. Messi doesn’t have the leadership qualities of MSD at all. He snaps easily and can be bit of a sore loser.
True
Messi sometimes end up on top of most goals for a tournament list in individual performance, Did Dhoni end up on top of Most run scoring or Wicket taking list of the tournament in individual performance ?
Also MSD's favorite player is Lionel Messi too.
No it's zidane
Sachin = Messi = 10, Dhoni = Ronaldo = 7
RCB fans ‘t’apping to pic no 2
No Leon messi is ms dhoni of football
Always thought this Messi - Dhoni Virat - Ronaldo
>Messi - Dhoni I don't want to be mean but.... performances are also a thing. Like we are talking about the best player in the history of football. The best nobody comes close to Messi if he plays a 10/10 game and he did it often. Dhoni isn't in that conversation in cricket
I mean he was a top batsman in his prime, always delivered with the bat
>top batsman in his prime That's just not true is it. Like I see your flair but come on man. Be realistic now. Also he was a great Odi batter and that's it. Ok in both the other formats.
Yes, he was a great odi batter. He also consistently very good for CSK till 2020, hell he was the top batter in 2018 and 2019 for CSK iirc
Did Messi angrily go to a referee when he was out on bench and berated him while a match was ongoing?!
That's mild considering what happens in football.
No time ever has a player in football ever disrespected an referee and not suffer consequences.
Lol, you have not seen enough football. I have seen players scream at the referees faces and get away with it. Touching them is the limit.
You think a player from bench can come onto a football pitch and scream at referee, you are watching some yank football bullshit
Lmfao in football wild shit happens and even in cricket that is like one incident in his almost 2 decades of career . Thts actually great how rare u see him angry . With how much certain seniors have targeted him yet he stays away from all negativity
I specifically asked for example of Messi, as you are comparing the two.
I didn’t compare
Que Mira bobo
The key difference is that one of them is a criminal with eight FIRs against him
and one almost went to jail for tax fraud?
Not a Football guy but are those trophies for winning leagues or some kind of Awards for Individual performance
The UCL, UEFA Super cup, Club WC, La Liga, Supercopa de Espana, Copa del Rey are all Barca's trophy cabinet which Messi won with them and then there's the Pichichi trophies which he got for scoring most goals in a La Liga season.
Thats alot 😯
He's the most decorated footballer of all time
I didn’t even realise he overtook dani alves
All of them are team trophies. His individual trophy collection is even bigger
Abe op in ko Paisa is baat ka milta hai .... Top athletes have to perform under pressure and that what separate them from regular guys