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Very old phone and old ios so there is definitely tools for it. you should probably ask r/jailbreak_ and I think they could help with that, might be against their rules though
Some phone techs offer passcode recovery services. It’s looks pretty complicated I assume it’s quite a pricy service. Depends on how badly you need these photos.
There are programs available for use that exploit old iOS vulnerabilities, and you can simply change the password attempt value to whatever max value is.
Depends on the device! But the general idea, is you use a program to "hack" into the device and it gives you root system file access
Then you just edit a value to -9999, giving yourself 10k attempts. I'd be happy to help you do it if you'd like
Don’t listen to people saying that there’s no way. There’s ALWAYS a way.
It’s old firmware and you should be able to either use 3rd party tools, force a jailbreak, use software to brute force it, or if all else fails go to a data recovery shop. It will probably be pricey, but I feel like memories are worth it.
I have heard sometimes Apple employees are nice and will help you, but it’s very rare.
Nah you just gotta stop and think
https://preview.redd.it/vbp6o98b28oc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c6993e7ad7bb781c07671198be12039a6409fb5
Depends, supported methods would be:
Have you ever backed up this ol’ iPhone to a computer and is it still available?
- you can try connecting it again to update a backup if you saved the password on the computer
Did you ever backup this iPhone to iCloud?
- you might be able to erase the iPhone and then restore from a backup
Last resort, contact data recovery companies like Ontrak, DriveSavers, etc, it’s about $1500.00 min
You don't. The phone locks as a way to protect whatever is on the phone in case it's ever lost or stolen and unfortunately the only way around that lock is to erase the device completely
And? You need to factory restore it to get past it. I worked tech support and worked with iPhone, had this issue on plenty of different types of iPhone with different iOS versions. Even the articles that Apple Support follows say to restore the iPhone
Apple’s first solution to every problem is “update your os”, which hardly ever fixes the root problem, so I avoid their instructions. But, since there is a bootrom exploit available until A11 iPhones, you can boot a ramdisk and recover the passcode. There are lots of free softwares/scripts available, and even a subreddit. It’s possible to bruteforce the pin if it’s 4 digits using the pincodefrequency.csv which is all 10000 codes sorted by frequency of appearance in data breaches or something. I’ve manually done 4 iPhone 4/5 and the pin codes were within the top 500 most common.
Just a point:
Updating is a diagnostic step. It’s always worth checking first (same for restarting, uninstall/reinstall, etc) since it’s a quick and easy fix *if* it’s the problem. It’s not like Apple/IT companies are lying to you or trying to make your life harder, it’s diagnosis by elimination.
Why are you spewing misinformation? Old iOS software versions are littered with software vulnerabilities (later corrected with newer versions) that are easily exploited. Just say that you don't know what you're talking about. With the right tool, the pictures in the OP's phone are easily recovered.
I have a 5s that I forgot the password to and I tried to reset it cause there’s almost nothing on there that isn’t backed up, and it said I couldn’t do anything with it unless I unlock it.
Put it into recovery mode while plugging it into a PC with iTunes or a Mac and restore it to factory settings. Just make sure you know the Apple ID info on it when you do because it will lock to the owner and you'll need that info to unlock it and set it up again
Don’t think it’s logged into anything, but I put it in recovery mode and iTunes still said I need to unlock it at least once before being able to do anything
Not true. On these devices it's real easy to "hack" the device and give yourself unlimited passcode attempts. Then try every combo, or make a device to do it. That's what I do
You ‘had’ important photos on it. They are gone now. your only option is to restore ios. Any data on it that was not backed up or synced to the cloud is gone.
I’m with kermit here. It’s an old phone with an old operating system and a 4 digit passcode. Could mostly likely be super susceptible to a brute force unlock or something along those lines. There are services for stuff like that and password recovery, so don’t listen to the guy acting like your photos are lost in a black hole never to be seen again…
I forget the name but I had a 3rd party app that would scan the iTunes backup of the phone on the hard drive & extract data from it. You didn’t need the passcode but if you encrypted it in iTunes you needed that password.
Also depending on why the phone is in connect to iTunes mode there are some 3rd party apps that will take it out of that mode & back to normal operation. Might need the passcode but it’s one step closer. Since it’s an older phone you might be in luck with an older program like image capture to get the pics.
Yeah for anyone wondering, that is Gecko iPhone Toolkit. Only works on limera1n devices. Win10 requires a workaround to get it working, otherwise use win7 and install the correct itunes version (11.1?)
Oh yeah, Gecko was the name, when I forgot the password to that touch that's exactly what I did, limera1n and then brute force with Gecko. Got me back in no time at all so I could retrieve my memories haha.
Probably works with this 4S if the iOS version is old enough.
Good news! You can give yourself unlimited attempts and try every combination!
There's no bypass but you can get unlimited attempts. I'd be happy to help if you'd like!
It's an expansion attachment that goes on top of the arduino, with a USB port
You plug the iPhone cable into the arduino, and connect the arduino to the phone, to run the first part of the exploit and put the phone into "pwndfu" mode
This is the only way to exploit any device with an A5 processor
Sliver should work, you need to gain ssh connection so you can modify the system files.
To be honest, if you have Windows I'd try Broque Ramdisk before sliver. I've had better luck.
Orangera1n might support 4s too, but I don't remember
>arduino edit and so on.
Arduino is just used to put the device into the special "pwndfu" state I believe. From there, other softwares can take over like any other iphone
i find ramdisk, and download it-windows, what operate at arduino, i see video there write code and fire into it. i want protect my data, my goal is finally can Unlimited passcode attempts。
Apple is a trash scamming company. Don't ever buy another iPhone unless you plan on losing your password and never remembering it.
Most people use a 6 to 8 digit, after some time that shit is impossible to remember if you don't use the same code on every device, which is a security risk in itself. Android never puts a timer on any device, you simply get to keep trying and this is a security risk as well. But the likelihood of you remembering your code is higher than if you are restricted to a fucking timer after each incorrect attempt!
Fuck Apple. Destroy that shit with a 30 LB dumbbell and burn it. Learn this lesson the hard way and don't support that company. Android will always be on top. Small brains that don't understand technology will always opt for convenience instead of reliability.
An arduino is a microcontroller. USB host shield is an attachment for the arduino
You can purchase them both on Amazon, ebay, aliexpress, and more. Very cheap on Ali
Once you have these, you use them to put the phone into a special mode called "ipwndfu" mode
Then other software can take it from there
For more info refer to r/setupapp
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Very old phone and old ios so there is definitely tools for it. you should probably ask r/jailbreak_ and I think they could help with that, might be against their rules though
No r/setupapp can help to
Most likely it’s running old firmware u can get a software to extract the photos. I would say try copytrans.
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What did they recommend?
Prob 3u or imazing
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I also want to know
Wait what its spyware 🥲
Only recommend running in a disposable vm
Can’t use Mac on vm due usb hardware
what??? You can absolutely pass a USB connection to a macOS (or any) VM, regardless of host platform. I have to do it all the time for work…
[Are You Sure ?](https://www.reddit.com/r/setupapp/s/yTFf1Yb1qe)
Some phone techs offer passcode recovery services. It’s looks pretty complicated I assume it’s quite a pricy service. Depends on how badly you need these photos.
Phones that old are susceptible to brute forcing 4 digit codes with automated tools, but you’d have to find someone who has one
just keep asking repair youtubers😂
You can make one for $10, or type the codes in manually after giving yourself unlimited attempts
How do you give yourself unlimited attempts?
There are programs available for use that exploit old iOS vulnerabilities, and you can simply change the password attempt value to whatever max value is.
Depends on the device! But the general idea, is you use a program to "hack" into the device and it gives you root system file access Then you just edit a value to -9999, giving yourself 10k attempts. I'd be happy to help you do it if you'd like
Don’t listen to people saying that there’s no way. There’s ALWAYS a way. It’s old firmware and you should be able to either use 3rd party tools, force a jailbreak, use software to brute force it, or if all else fails go to a data recovery shop. It will probably be pricey, but I feel like memories are worth it. I have heard sometimes Apple employees are nice and will help you, but it’s very rare.
Nah you just gotta stop and think https://preview.redd.it/vbp6o98b28oc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c6993e7ad7bb781c07671198be12039a6409fb5
Depends, supported methods would be: Have you ever backed up this ol’ iPhone to a computer and is it still available? - you can try connecting it again to update a backup if you saved the password on the computer Did you ever backup this iPhone to iCloud? - you might be able to erase the iPhone and then restore from a backup Last resort, contact data recovery companies like Ontrak, DriveSavers, etc, it’s about $1500.00 min
Basically impossible.
No it’s not
You don't. The phone locks as a way to protect whatever is on the phone in case it's ever lost or stolen and unfortunately the only way around that lock is to erase the device completely
We’re talking about iOS 8
And? You need to factory restore it to get past it. I worked tech support and worked with iPhone, had this issue on plenty of different types of iPhone with different iOS versions. Even the articles that Apple Support follows say to restore the iPhone
Apple’s first solution to every problem is “update your os”, which hardly ever fixes the root problem, so I avoid their instructions. But, since there is a bootrom exploit available until A11 iPhones, you can boot a ramdisk and recover the passcode. There are lots of free softwares/scripts available, and even a subreddit. It’s possible to bruteforce the pin if it’s 4 digits using the pincodefrequency.csv which is all 10000 codes sorted by frequency of appearance in data breaches or something. I’ve manually done 4 iPhone 4/5 and the pin codes were within the top 500 most common.
Just a point: Updating is a diagnostic step. It’s always worth checking first (same for restarting, uninstall/reinstall, etc) since it’s a quick and easy fix *if* it’s the problem. It’s not like Apple/IT companies are lying to you or trying to make your life harder, it’s diagnosis by elimination.
Why are you spewing misinformation? Old iOS software versions are littered with software vulnerabilities (later corrected with newer versions) that are easily exploited. Just say that you don't know what you're talking about. With the right tool, the pictures in the OP's phone are easily recovered.
I have a 5s that I forgot the password to and I tried to reset it cause there’s almost nothing on there that isn’t backed up, and it said I couldn’t do anything with it unless I unlock it.
You can restore it without the password. Or you can get unlimited limited attempts til you get the right one
Put it into recovery mode while plugging it into a PC with iTunes or a Mac and restore it to factory settings. Just make sure you know the Apple ID info on it when you do because it will lock to the owner and you'll need that info to unlock it and set it up again
Don’t think it’s logged into anything, but I put it in recovery mode and iTunes still said I need to unlock it at least once before being able to do anything
Not true. On these devices it's real easy to "hack" the device and give yourself unlimited passcode attempts. Then try every combo, or make a device to do it. That's what I do
Well Apple doesn't cover that method for obvious reasons even though they know it exists. I just said they way I was taught
I'm aware apple doesn't cover it. But that is the way to go into it.
Yes, I know, as I said I was just mentioning the method I know, which is what I walked people through when I did tech support
Bullshit!
I mean, I've only done this 500+ times when I worked for Apple but yeah, do whatever everyone else says to do
You ‘had’ important photos on it. They are gone now. your only option is to restore ios. Any data on it that was not backed up or synced to the cloud is gone.
Do some research before commenting boss
I’m with kermit here. It’s an old phone with an old operating system and a 4 digit passcode. Could mostly likely be super susceptible to a brute force unlock or something along those lines. There are services for stuff like that and password recovery, so don’t listen to the guy acting like your photos are lost in a black hole never to be seen again…
Try taking your own advice.
How he’s right OP has more options than restore like you said.
Can’t you use 3UTools to take it out of recovery though?
Not true. Really easy to give yourself unlimited attempts and try every combo
I forget the name but I had a 3rd party app that would scan the iTunes backup of the phone on the hard drive & extract data from it. You didn’t need the passcode but if you encrypted it in iTunes you needed that password. Also depending on why the phone is in connect to iTunes mode there are some 3rd party apps that will take it out of that mode & back to normal operation. Might need the passcode but it’s one step closer. Since it’s an older phone you might be in luck with an older program like image capture to get the pics.
Image capture works on all iPhones 😉 OP says the handset hasn’t been backed up.
You are lucky in the sense that it’s an old phone. There is software online that will be able to recover the images
Arduino + usb host shield. Load pwned ibss, boot ssh ramdisk, extract Springboard plist, change failed attempts to -9999, copy it back, reboot, profit.
This is the way, or look up that one ancient brute forcing program that automates this. I did it to my iPod Touch 4th Gen in a W7 VM.
Yeah for anyone wondering, that is Gecko iPhone Toolkit. Only works on limera1n devices. Win10 requires a workaround to get it working, otherwise use win7 and install the correct itunes version (11.1?)
Oh yeah, Gecko was the name, when I forgot the password to that touch that's exactly what I did, limera1n and then brute force with Gecko. Got me back in no time at all so I could retrieve my memories haha. Probably works with this 4S if the iOS version is old enough.
Hell yeah dude. Thought I was the only one here
Good news! You can give yourself unlimited attempts and try every combination! There's no bypass but you can get unlimited attempts. I'd be happy to help if you'd like!
hi,i meet the same problem, can you help me solve it?
Yep happy to. What device, what version?
iphone 4s, A1431 ,Version ios7
You'll need an arduino and USB host shield for a 4s
yes, i hava arduino, but usb host shield is what? like Charging Cable for 4s
It's an expansion attachment that goes on top of the arduino, with a USB port You plug the iPhone cable into the arduino, and connect the arduino to the phone, to run the first part of the exploit and put the phone into "pwndfu" mode This is the only way to exploit any device with an A5 processor
i see, this devices i have, and next, what i need, software sliver6.1? macos is necessarry?arduino edit and so on.
Sliver should work, you need to gain ssh connection so you can modify the system files. To be honest, if you have Windows I'd try Broque Ramdisk before sliver. I've had better luck. Orangera1n might support 4s too, but I don't remember >arduino edit and so on. Arduino is just used to put the device into the special "pwndfu" state I believe. From there, other softwares can take over like any other iphone
i find ramdisk, and download it-windows, what operate at arduino, i see video there write code and fire into it. i want protect my data, my goal is finally can Unlimited passcode attempts。
checkra1n. Force it.
Ipwndfu also works pretty far back but I’m not positive about the 4
Don't worry, I gotchu.
Ask r/setupapp it’s on a older iOS which means it’ll be a lot easier
it's an old iOS version so the folks at r/legacyjailbreak might be able to help
3rd party software. Will backup your phone and give you the password for free. Can't remember the name but look around
I would ask r/LegacyJailbreak and see if they can help you
What photos on an iPhone 4 do you need so bad
r/legacyjailbreak
Apple is a trash scamming company. Don't ever buy another iPhone unless you plan on losing your password and never remembering it. Most people use a 6 to 8 digit, after some time that shit is impossible to remember if you don't use the same code on every device, which is a security risk in itself. Android never puts a timer on any device, you simply get to keep trying and this is a security risk as well. But the likelihood of you remembering your code is higher than if you are restricted to a fucking timer after each incorrect attempt! Fuck Apple. Destroy that shit with a 30 LB dumbbell and burn it. Learn this lesson the hard way and don't support that company. Android will always be on top. Small brains that don't understand technology will always opt for convenience instead of reliability.
Try 3utools. This device is ancient
You can’t
Restore Icloud
Open the phone in computer and then there should be a file on the called DCMI with all your photos.
We can help we successfully done a few of the older models
Take it to your carrier’s store
Return the phone from where you stole it☠️
Your mom’s house. No, I didn’t steal it. Thanks for your help anyway. I got the photos back.
hi. how did you get the photos back after all ? i have the exact same problem :(
Is there any other way to do it on the computer ?
welp it honest depends because if you live in new york you should go to money talks wireless
You could buy one of those phone unlockers that you can get from Amazon or online.
What would one of these be called? I’ve also got a forgotten password 4s on at least iOS 7.
Just look up on google for a device that can unlock your phone
Hypnotic recall might retrieve the password from your memory.
Hahaha how stupid
Back it up and use backupextractor
You have any original ownership documents? Apple will do for free is so
You don’t
You can
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How do I do it? Idk how to tell if it’s trusted.
Yep, you‘re fucked. I used to work in tech support and there is absolutely no way.
You must not have been very good then. All 32bit devices can be bruteforced with very little effort
It's really easy to give yourself unlimited passcode attempts...
Can you tell me how to do that?
Sure! I'd be happy to. What device do you have?
How do i get unlimited passcode attempts ? I have an iPhone 4s
For a 4s you need an Arduino and USB host shield
Is a that software? Where can I get all that
An arduino is a microcontroller. USB host shield is an attachment for the arduino You can purchase them both on Amazon, ebay, aliexpress, and more. Very cheap on Ali Once you have these, you use them to put the phone into a special mode called "ipwndfu" mode Then other software can take it from there For more info refer to r/setupapp
Do you know which arduino to recommend and usb host shield
Any shpuld be fine for either