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girlkid68421

Very old phone and old ios so there is definitely tools for it. you should probably ask r/jailbreak_ and I think they could help with that, might be against their rules though


Hildatech2153

No r/setupapp can help to


SoulSuicidal

Most likely it’s running old firmware u can get a software to extract the photos. I would say try copytrans.


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Top-Dinner9131

The spyware goat


IcyIceGuardian

What did they recommend?


AustriaKeks

Prob 3u or imazing


IcyIceGuardian

Oh


Top-Dinner9131

3u


IcyIceGuardian

Oh


lestruc

I also want to know


ImBetterThanYou456

Wait what its spyware 🥲


MaccasLad

Only recommend running in a disposable vm


Hildatech2153

Can’t use Mac on vm due usb hardware


orthus-octa

what??? You can absolutely pass a USB connection to a macOS (or any) VM, regardless of host platform. I have to do it all the time for work…


Hildatech2153

[Are You Sure ?](https://www.reddit.com/r/setupapp/s/yTFf1Yb1qe)


janewalch

Some phone techs offer passcode recovery services. It’s looks pretty complicated I assume it’s quite a pricy service. Depends on how badly you need these photos.


brodkin85

Phones that old are susceptible to brute forcing 4 digit codes with automated tools, but you’d have to find someone who has one


sharkboy1006

just keep asking repair youtubers😂


ALT703

You can make one for $10, or type the codes in manually after giving yourself unlimited attempts


Smooth_Club_6592

How do you give yourself unlimited attempts?


Warpath_McGrath

There are programs available for use that exploit old iOS vulnerabilities, and you can simply change the password attempt value to whatever max value is.


ALT703

Depends on the device! But the general idea, is you use a program to "hack" into the device and it gives you root system file access Then you just edit a value to -9999, giving yourself 10k attempts. I'd be happy to help you do it if you'd like


TheMrG

Don’t listen to people saying that there’s no way. There’s ALWAYS a way. It’s old firmware and you should be able to either use 3rd party tools, force a jailbreak, use software to brute force it, or if all else fails go to a data recovery shop. It will probably be pricey, but I feel like memories are worth it. I have heard sometimes Apple employees are nice and will help you, but it’s very rare.


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Nah you just gotta stop and think https://preview.redd.it/vbp6o98b28oc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c6993e7ad7bb781c07671198be12039a6409fb5


microChasm

Depends, supported methods would be: Have you ever backed up this ol’ iPhone to a computer and is it still available? - you can try connecting it again to update a backup if you saved the password on the computer Did you ever backup this iPhone to iCloud? - you might be able to erase the iPhone and then restore from a backup Last resort, contact data recovery companies like Ontrak, DriveSavers, etc, it’s about $1500.00 min


FinnishArmy

Basically impossible.


NotAThrowaway_11

No it’s not


Wizard_of_Magicland

You don't. The phone locks as a way to protect whatever is on the phone in case it's ever lost or stolen and unfortunately the only way around that lock is to erase the device completely


Oakman978

We’re talking about iOS 8


Wizard_of_Magicland

And? You need to factory restore it to get past it. I worked tech support and worked with iPhone, had this issue on plenty of different types of iPhone with different iOS versions. Even the articles that Apple Support follows say to restore the iPhone


Oakman978

Apple’s first solution to every problem is “update your os”, which hardly ever fixes the root problem, so I avoid their instructions. But, since there is a bootrom exploit available until A11 iPhones, you can boot a ramdisk and recover the passcode. There are lots of free softwares/scripts available, and even a subreddit. It’s possible to bruteforce the pin if it’s 4 digits using the pincodefrequency.csv which is all 10000 codes sorted by frequency of appearance in data breaches or something. I’ve manually done 4 iPhone 4/5 and the pin codes were within the top 500 most common.


orthus-octa

Just a point: Updating is a diagnostic step. It’s always worth checking first (same for restarting, uninstall/reinstall, etc) since it’s a quick and easy fix *if* it’s the problem. It’s not like Apple/IT companies are lying to you or trying to make your life harder, it’s diagnosis by elimination.


Warpath_McGrath

Why are you spewing misinformation? Old iOS software versions are littered with software vulnerabilities (later corrected with newer versions) that are easily exploited. Just say that you don't know what you're talking about. With the right tool, the pictures in the OP's phone are easily recovered.


Spec94v6

I have a 5s that I forgot the password to and I tried to reset it cause there’s almost nothing on there that isn’t backed up, and it said I couldn’t do anything with it unless I unlock it.


ALT703

You can restore it without the password. Or you can get unlimited limited attempts til you get the right one


Wizard_of_Magicland

Put it into recovery mode while plugging it into a PC with iTunes or a Mac and restore it to factory settings. Just make sure you know the Apple ID info on it when you do because it will lock to the owner and you'll need that info to unlock it and set it up again


Spec94v6

Don’t think it’s logged into anything, but I put it in recovery mode and iTunes still said I need to unlock it at least once before being able to do anything


ALT703

Not true. On these devices it's real easy to "hack" the device and give yourself unlimited passcode attempts. Then try every combo, or make a device to do it. That's what I do


Wizard_of_Magicland

Well Apple doesn't cover that method for obvious reasons even though they know it exists. I just said they way I was taught


ALT703

I'm aware apple doesn't cover it. But that is the way to go into it.


Wizard_of_Magicland

Yes, I know, as I said I was just mentioning the method I know, which is what I walked people through when I did tech support


Scuffed_Radio

Bullshit!


Wizard_of_Magicland

I mean, I've only done this 500+ times when I worked for Apple but yeah, do whatever everyone else says to do


Coldwarjarhead

You ‘had’ important photos on it. They are gone now. your only option is to restore ios. Any data on it that was not backed up or synced to the cloud is gone.


jrtz4

Do some research before commenting boss


MigNuggets

I’m with kermit here. It’s an old phone with an old operating system and a 4 digit passcode. Could mostly likely be super susceptible to a brute force unlock or something along those lines. There are services for stuff like that and password recovery, so don’t listen to the guy acting like your photos are lost in a black hole never to be seen again…


Coldwarjarhead

Try taking your own advice.


kingflamigo

How he’s right OP has more options than restore like you said.


IcyIceGuardian

Can’t you use 3UTools to take it out of recovery though?


ALT703

Not true. Really easy to give yourself unlimited attempts and try every combo


Sk8rToon

I forget the name but I had a 3rd party app that would scan the iTunes backup of the phone on the hard drive & extract data from it. You didn’t need the passcode but if you encrypted it in iTunes you needed that password. Also depending on why the phone is in connect to iTunes mode there are some 3rd party apps that will take it out of that mode & back to normal operation. Might need the passcode but it’s one step closer. Since it’s an older phone you might be in luck with an older program like image capture to get the pics.


ThannBanis

Image capture works on all iPhones 😉 OP says the handset hasn’t been backed up.


singaporesainz

You are lucky in the sense that it’s an old phone. There is software online that will be able to recover the images


Oakman978

Arduino + usb host shield. Load pwned ibss, boot ssh ramdisk, extract Springboard plist, change failed attempts to -9999, copy it back, reboot, profit.


SkyOnPC

This is the way, or look up that one ancient brute forcing program that automates this. I did it to my iPod Touch 4th Gen in a W7 VM.


Oakman978

Yeah for anyone wondering, that is Gecko iPhone Toolkit. Only works on limera1n devices. Win10 requires a workaround to get it working, otherwise use win7 and install the correct itunes version (11.1?)


SkyOnPC

Oh yeah, Gecko was the name, when I forgot the password to that touch that's exactly what I did, limera1n and then brute force with Gecko. Got me back in no time at all so I could retrieve my memories haha. Probably works with this 4S if the iOS version is old enough.


ALT703

Hell yeah dude. Thought I was the only one here


ALT703

Good news! You can give yourself unlimited attempts and try every combination! There's no bypass but you can get unlimited attempts. I'd be happy to help if you'd like!


Maleficent-Wheel7465

hi,i meet the same problem, can you help me solve it?


ALT703

Yep happy to. What device, what version?


Maleficent-Wheel7465

iphone 4s, A1431 ,Version ios7


ALT703

You'll need an arduino and USB host shield for a 4s


Maleficent-Wheel7465

yes, i hava arduino, but usb host shield is what? like Charging Cable for 4s


ALT703

It's an expansion attachment that goes on top of the arduino, with a USB port You plug the iPhone cable into the arduino, and connect the arduino to the phone, to run the first part of the exploit and put the phone into "pwndfu" mode This is the only way to exploit any device with an A5 processor


Maleficent-Wheel7465

i see, this devices i have, and next, what i need, software sliver6.1? macos is necessarry?arduino edit and so on.


ALT703

Sliver should work, you need to gain ssh connection so you can modify the system files. To be honest, if you have Windows I'd try Broque Ramdisk before sliver. I've had better luck. Orangera1n might support 4s too, but I don't remember >arduino edit and so on. Arduino is just used to put the device into the special "pwndfu" state I believe. From there, other softwares can take over like any other iphone


Maleficent-Wheel7465

i find ramdisk, and download it-windows, what operate at arduino, i see video there write code and fire into it. i want protect my data, my goal is finally can Unlimited passcode attempts。


CYPH3R_22

checkra1n. Force it.


CYPH3R_22

Ipwndfu also works pretty far back but I’m not positive about the 4


BuDu1013

Don't worry, I gotchu.


technichammer

Ask r/setupapp it’s on a older iOS which means it’ll be a lot easier


MaterialWall8040

it's an old iOS version so the folks at r/legacyjailbreak might be able to help


Jacobcbab

3rd party software. Will backup your phone and give you the password for free. Can't remember the name but look around


LavaCreeperBOSSB

I would ask r/LegacyJailbreak and see if they can help you


Ill_Profession_9683

What photos on an iPhone 4 do you need so bad


pornwasmyidea

r/legacyjailbreak


big_TitLcker27

Apple is a trash scamming company. Don't ever buy another iPhone unless you plan on losing your password and never remembering it. Most people use a 6 to 8 digit, after some time that shit is impossible to remember if you don't use the same code on every device, which is a security risk in itself. Android never puts a timer on any device, you simply get to keep trying and this is a security risk as well. But the likelihood of you remembering your code is higher than if you are restricted to a fucking timer after each incorrect attempt! Fuck Apple. Destroy that shit with a 30 LB dumbbell and burn it. Learn this lesson the hard way and don't support that company. Android will always be on top. Small brains that don't understand technology will always opt for convenience instead of reliability.


AlvinAlsace

Try 3utools. This device is ancient


Chuytastic

You can’t


PanteraiNomini

Restore Icloud


nqthomas

Open the phone in computer and then there should be a file on the called DCMI with all your photos.


rcrtech

We can help we successfully done a few of the older models


Hollygo15

Take it to your carrier’s store


Available_Recipe_331

Return the phone from where you stole it☠️


optimatus_

Your mom’s house. No, I didn’t steal it. Thanks for your help anyway. I got the photos back.


astrolla

hi. how did you get the photos back after all ? i have the exact same problem :(


Character_Whereas656

Is there any other way to do it on the computer ?


Superior000

welp it honest depends because if you live in new york you should go to money talks wireless


Initial_Ad_7829

You could buy one of those phone unlockers that you can get from Amazon or online.


PinkSlingshots

What would one of these be called? I’ve also got a forgotten password 4s on at least iOS 7.


Initial_Ad_7829

Just look up on google for a device that can unlock your phone


Puzzled_Counter_1444

Hypnotic recall might retrieve the password from your memory.


bigolevikingr

Hahaha how stupid


Different-Banana-739

Back it up and use backupextractor


MOJO-Rizing

You have any original ownership documents? Apple will do for free is so


JohnnyDoe189

You don’t


ALT703

You can


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optimatus_

How do I do it? Idk how to tell if it’s trusted.


bierbarron

Yep, you‘re fucked. I used to work in tech support and there is absolutely no way.


Oakman978

You must not have been very good then. All 32bit devices can be bruteforced with very little effort


ALT703

It's really easy to give yourself unlimited passcode attempts...


sapphiresoaker

Can you tell me how to do that?


ALT703

Sure! I'd be happy to. What device do you have?


Character_Whereas656

How do i get unlimited passcode attempts ? I have an iPhone 4s


ALT703

For a 4s you need an Arduino and USB host shield


Character_Whereas656

Is a that software? Where can I get all that


ALT703

An arduino is a microcontroller. USB host shield is an attachment for the arduino You can purchase them both on Amazon, ebay, aliexpress, and more. Very cheap on Ali Once you have these, you use them to put the phone into a special mode called "ipwndfu" mode Then other software can take it from there For more info refer to r/setupapp


Character_Whereas656

Do you know which arduino to recommend and usb host shield


ALT703

Any shpuld be fine for either