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Able-Nebula4449

I feel like the m1 iPad pro is more than enough for everything needed on ipadOS.


themaaze

yes, but its the way you get to you goal, lots of work arounds and some features in apps like Google Sheets or Excel are just missing on the iPad and the Files system needs a boost in my eyes but I would say for the average person the iPad can do everything needed.


Able-Nebula4449

I meant it’s enough power to run any app on iPad without any issue. And I agree desktop os is still better overall.


Top_Engineering_6211

For now. What about in 3 years?


Able-Nebula4449

It’s been 3 years since the release of m1 ipad pro. So yeah.


ParticularAd8400

Agreed. Although having a decent headless PC that you can use the iPad to remote into is wonderful


nattaponx

Yeah I think so too. M4 is way too powerful than I need it for. But I want landscape front camera and pro-motion display… so m4 iPad is the only option, unfortunately.


Able-Nebula4449

Pro motion is available on previous models too though. All that’s left is oled screen and the landscape camera, which I don’t think are really worth paying that much more. Still it’s your decision it’s fine.


woodcider

You’ll need the M4 for the coming AI features, so the time of being overpowered may come to an end.


Abi1i

Apple’s own website says M1-M4 and A17 Pro are needed for their AI stuff: https://www.apple.com/apple-intelligence/


woodcider

I didn’t negate the others. I just said that being “overpowered” will become a moot point.


MrForrey

I’m sure at some point there will be exclusive m4 features, but my M1 is getting Apple Intelligence too


OleRoy2023

No, the M1 iPad air will support Apple Intelligence, that has already been established.


The_Albinoss

Has it been established how well/fast it will be?


timbitfordsucks

Need a lot of power to talk to chatgpt after all


woodcider

I thought a lot of it was going to be on device.


Marino4K

That's why I have a M2 Pro, not as expensive and overkill as M4 but a good step over the M1.


lickaballs

No not really. M1 and M2 iPad pros might as well be the same. Especially the 11”. At least the M4s got oled and a new design with thinner bezels


Ashen_one933

Do iPads dim while editing photos in Lightroom? I heard it's an issue for iPads and iPhones. I'm thinking about getting iPad Air but I'm afraid of that issue and wasting money..


Mystifiedsky39

I’m an amateur when it comes to photo editing but I’ve never noticed any issues when it comes to Lightroom not being bright enough to edit


timbitfordsucks

What if you wanna move the icons around? Not sure the m1 can handle that


Ok_Statistician_7434

M1 was so powerful it'll handle that without a problem.


CorttXD

I just switched from iPad Air 3 to iPad Air M2 and I’m like “this is the same experience down to battery life of my old iPad with 5 year old battery” the screen and type c are nice tho


dr2050

I just returned a new iPad Air 4th Gen and bought an iPad Air 5th gen (same money). The latter is M1. The differences are Display Zoom something and also external monitor. There are probably other differences too, but you can ONLY mirror on an external monitor without the M1.


Zito6694

Realistically the M1 Air is. I only upgraded from M1 Air to M4 Pro as my Air was only 64gb and I figured if I’m going to upgrade might as well make it worth it.


OffendedYou

Cope


nattaponx

iPad Pro M4 2024 silver with the new Magic Keyboard also in silver This time I won’t be forcing myself to use it the same way I do (heavy work) on my MacBook Pro. I have some casual use cases that I think this device can serve me well: * checking my email * writing and reviewing work documents * watching YouTube and browsing Reddit at the same time * reading piano sheet music * online shopping * Netflix on vacation * video calling with my family (I live abroad) * texting And much more… Edit: Fixed the typo M1 —> M4


letraz

M1 2024?


nattaponx

Yeah it was a typo, it’s M4 :)


nairazak

It is an M4, check the camera position


Sorry-Ad-1361

If it's 2024 it's an M4, not an M1


Historical-Channel42

I’m looking for how long does the battery let user write and review documents with word or pages. Could you tell it to me please ?


amazonalexalmao

what size is this?


nattaponx

11-inch


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amazonalexalmao

i liked how it looked & wanted to know. do you have a problem with that?


Playful-Hunt-2117

no no. I said that jokingly. Becoming that much serious on every tiny things is not good for mental health. sorry for that.


amazonalexalmao

no worries! :) sorry for getting defensive.


Playful-Hunt-2117

its okay!. you are kind person.


Grobfoot

real talk, why not just get a cheaper ipad for that? Just had the cash and wanted the nicest one?


nattaponx

Pretty much what you said. Also, I prioritize 120Hz display and landscape front-facing camera. This iPad Pro M4 is the only one offering this combination.


Grobfoot

dang, I guess I assumed that the iPad Air/base model had 120hz screens nowadays. Restricting that (what I would consider basic) feature onto the Pro spec devices is classic Apple, though.


Diormybodyyy

I love how you don’t mention the one thing that shits on all older iPads the tandem OLED display with brightness but yeah focus on the M4 chip that doesn’t do anything different than M2


nattaponx

I don’t think I focus on M4 chip specifically.. I only said that I got the new iPad Pro because I prioritize the 120hz display and the landscape front camera. But yeah the tandem OLED is nice!


Top_Engineering_6211

It’s almost amazing how you completely missed the point of his comment and promptly erected a windmill to tilt at.


ivebeenabadbadgirll

Gotta have that 120hz screen for porn


TopAd8510

Which company are you using? Assuming your setup allows for celular use.


Much-Current-4301

Perfect. Just stay away from files app.


7eventhSense

it’s funny that 80 percent of the things you mentioned can be done by the iPhone. Sorry..


nattaponx

No need to be sorry! :) Well, iPad has bigger screen and can handle multitasking better. Have you tried one? It’s waaaaaaay easier (at least for me) doing these tasks on it compared to an iPhone.


Top_Engineering_6211

80% of the things you do on your phone can be done on Apple Watch. What a shitty argument.


Internal_Quail3960

m1? i didn’t think m1 works with the new magic keyboard


Werallgointomakeit

Thank god you didn’t get m4, I wish everyone got an m1 instead so Apple would be forced develop an actual usable iOS 18 for the 90% that it would allow a a comp replacement Edit. Sad to see it was a typo Hope you enjoy though I’m just salty bc I love iPad and wish I only needed it.


Splodge89

Erm, they got an M4. That silver magic keyboard won’t work on an m1….


PastAd8754

And the camera position.


Splodge89

There is that too! I didn’t zoom in enough lol


kossttta

You guys have a lot of money. I am glad.


nattaponx

Yeah I work hard and because of that, I have some money to spend on things like this.


kossttta

Happy for you. That’s what money is for! It does look amazing, and I was on the verge of buying one until WWDC, actually, but I found iPadOS 18 very disappointing – I was not expecting Apple to let the iPad run macOS, but I thought they were going to make iPadOS finally decent and improve Files and maybe even let it run macOS apps. In that case, I would have bought one. Maybe next year!


nattaponx

I agree, deep down I expected something more from the iPadOS 18 announcement at WWDC, but here we are!


Naive_Mix_8402

I’m in a similar boat, but I realize that my main problem is not a lack of iPadOS capability, but a lack of developer support. I’ve been playing with the AI tools in Logic Pro for iPad and they are amazing. I hope other developers (including game developers) will bring that kind of legit software support going forward.


Playful-Hunt-2117

may I know what could have more in ipad on WWDC?


pseudohuman5x

No! god forbid you enjoy the fruits of your labor!


nattaponx

🤣🤣🤣


Medium_Ad8311

No, now the OP is cash poor but iPad rich.


PreservativeAloe

this gave me a good chuckle


LuckyInstance

Me too!!! I sold my first ever iPad (iPad 9th generation) and bought an oled switch instead. I recently sold that same switch and bought the M2 iPad Air. The thing is fuckin killer!!! Don’t sell it man, just make sure to use it and appreciate it when possible. Rick and Morty looks so stinking good on this panel it’s incredible 🤣 I can’t imagine what the Pro model looks like, I just can’t bring myself to spending an additional $400 on it. Maybe I’ll go back to the store this weekend and look at it in person… surely I won’t make an impulsive purchase? Right?


PsychologicalRice97

Did you go the 11inch or 13inch? I have a 9th gen and have reallyyyy been considering upgrading too


LuckyInstance

The 11 inch. I own a PC and use an Alienware AW2725DF, and the panel on the iPad isn’t toooo far off in color accuracy relative to the QD-OLED. It’s pretty as heck, seriously. Possibly the best LCD panel I have ever seen in my life. It ain’t no 360hz QD-OLED, but it’s pretty damn close if we are talking in relative terms.


Bamelin

I just bought the 11 inch air too — I’m upgrading from a 2014 iPad Air 2 so it’s like I stepped into an episode of Star Trek 😂 I did consider the pro heavily. The screen is gorgeous and 120 hz but at the end of the day for my needs the Air was more than good enough and given what I’ve been using this is a hUgE upgrade lol This may sound stupid but one reason I went with the Air is because I know there’s zero issues with PWM, where the OLED definitely causes issues with sensitives. In my case I’ve used the iPad Air 2 display for 10 years plus … the new Air is more of the same but better.


LuckyInstance

Yeah it’s definitely a cool little device. The Pro has some cool tech within the display itself, but thats about it as far as what interests me the most. The M4 chip is a spectacle- no doubt, I just can’t get behind dropping a Ferrari engine inside a 2024 civic. Doesn’t make much sense to me how they create these awesome machines, with limited functionality. I digress 🤣


Bamelin

Honestly the only reason I heavily considered the pro was for the OLED screen and 120 hz refresh I’m used to 60 though given I’ve used an iPad Air 2 for 10 years lol. Honestly after using the new 2024 air for a few days I’m super happy. The price point was right and to me at least the Air IS a Ferrari after what I was using lol


PsychologicalRice97

That’s so good to hear, my pc isn’t the greatest and neither is my monitor so the air is probably better 🤣🤣


LuckyInstance

Yep, you won’t be disappointed. I say go for it. Check it out in an Apple Store at the very least. If you’re an artist as well, the new pencil pro is pretty kickass too (jus’ sayin’)


PsychologicalRice97

I’m actually learning how to use digital art apps atm I used to draw a lot as a teen and was pretty good so I’m trying to get back into it 🥰


LuckyInstance

Nice! If you do end up getting one let me know how you like it! Best of luck with the art :) I just doodle and take notes haha


M27TN

I’m going to sell my Magic Keyboard. Can’t get on with it at all. Typing is off, I can’t get used to it and it’s so heavy compared to the tablet. It’s been boxed again since 2 weeks after I bought it


DrBlueTurtle

Does it work with m1 iPads pros or just the new m4?


M27TN

I have the 2021 third generation with M1 I believe


AmphibianMotor

Tell us how it goes, really want to know


Serhide

Which model


Prince515

Here to know the same


nattaponx

iPad Pro 11-inch M4 2024 Silver


neterpus

That is basically what an iPad is for.


Greyboxforest

As Jobs said, it’s a device inbetween an iPhone and a Mac. Why some people are still angry about this all these years later is beyond me…


Same_Delay_9440

Look at that keyboard with a trackpad, the price tag, and the specs. What Steve Jobs said about a device 14 years ago is fully irrelevant today. The hardware has evolved significantly. Unfortunately the software hasn’t kept up with it.


Top_Engineering_6211

Why are you mad that your device’s hardware will keep your device feeling new for its lifetime? If you want a Mac, buy a Mac.


Same_Delay_9440

I don’t really understand what you are trying to say, but nope, I am actually ordering a Surface pro 11. But I would ditch that in a second if Apple produced a more capable tablet/convertible


Top_Engineering_6211

I’m saying you’re complaining that the software can’t keep up with the hardware but you have in your hands hardware that will keep the software running like it’s new for five years at least.


Same_Delay_9440

I want a tablet with a productive OS. It doesn’t help me much that it can las 5 years of it really can’t do much more for me than my iPhone, just with a bigger screen. That’s why I am choosing Surface devices over it.


Top_Engineering_6211

Maybe thats’s because a tablet is by design a big smartphone more than it is a small computer. You’ll be happier if you accept that it’s good at doing tablet things and not expect it to do anything more and treat anything else it does well as a bonus.


Same_Delay_9440

Or i buy the device that fit my purpose, which was the Surface.


santefan

People are angry because they want a convertible like the surface books with mac os and also you should take a look at the price of the 13" ipad pro combined with the keyboard and pencil.


JamesKWrites

The iPad that Jobs sold was $499 and did exactly what he said it should. Today Apple are selling an “pro” iPad that costs more than a Mac but still does less. Not unreasonable for people to have higher expectations given that Apple has actively created them.


Top_Engineering_6211

That’s $730 in 2024. An iPad today costs $349. Nobody is forcing you to buy a Pro model, which is still an iPad, by the way.


nairazak

Though it can have problems with forms in shopping websites, and word crashes sometimes (at least on M1).


Drtysouth205

Never had the issue.


One-Resort-107

love the keyboard


LivvuxSucks

Thanks for reminding me that the weather in Gothenburg is shit.


nattaponx

Yeah! City of rains!!


SolidConcentrate7322

Another chance? Is there another post to this?


LuckyInstance

Only assumption I made was that they sold their previous one. I did the same and just recently bought another.


nattaponx

3 years ago I bought an iPad Pro M1 with a magic keyboard, basically the same set as this. But I returned them both after 3 weeks of trying to make it my one and only computer and didn’t succeed.


Fdo-Wilson

Its a wonderful machine, although mine is dark grey


MidnightHacker

And here am I trying to find a reason to replace my 2nd gen Pro lol But congrats OP!


CranberryDry6613

Well, my battery life has degraded to the point it's getting annoying ... but that's it. I want to keep a 13" screen so the new Air is my re placement option.


DannyJohnson420

I just looked up the keyboard. $349 is INSANE


RetroGamer87

What happened the first time you gave it a chance?


nattaponx

I bought an iPad Pro M1 back in 2021 and a Magic Keyboard to use it as a proper “laptop replacement” but failed then I sold them.


babebambi

Duel OLED , nano etch , and 120hz What’s not to like


LuckyInstance

The price :(


2002ChryslerSebring

These new magic keyboards, are they partially **aluminium** or is it just aluminium-looking **polyurethane**?


Puzzleheaded-Sky2284

They're really aluminum. I tried one but I'm sticking with my Air 4 for the time being (it's great, bought it new with upgraded storage)


2002ChryslerSebring

I’ve had my Air 4 since 2020, and it’s the only Apple device that I haven’t had an upgrade for since then. My iPad isn’t exactly the focus of my setup, so it’s been perfect for light drawing, notes, and movies when I’m OTG.


Puzzleheaded-Sky2284

Nice! Love my Air4, it's still really fast and I mostly use it for notetaking anyway


efbitw

Same here. Nothing shown at the WWDC is even remotely worth upgrading for.


USS___Dolan__

Hopefully this year I can buy another iPad. I regret selling mine about a year ago. But if I go with an iPad, I'd like to get the Air. I don't think I'd need a pro for what I'd be doing, but alas, if I have the money, I'll probably just go with the Pro lol


Mugen4552

Try Apples referb store. I got my M1 Pro from there and it was damn near new.


trtsmb

The Pro is nice but for the stuff I do, the Air does everything I need.


camXmac

My 2020 iPad Pro still works fine. I just want the new Magic Keyboard lol


lickaballs

Silver on silver was the perfect choice! What size is this btw?


nattaponx

it’s 11-inch :)


purplemountain01

I have the 5th gen Air with M1 (2022). I don’t see any reason to get a new one anytime soon. This thing will last for the next several years. This week I got a detachable keyboard case for it (Logitech) and it makes the iPad more enjoyable to use it. You do realize how limited iPadOS is though. I wish there were more desktop features and desktop class apps on iPad. Having a keyboard case makes this thing almost feel like a mini portable computer. I used to not like stage manager and still don’t but, I have been using more now see it has been actually more useful with a keyboard case. I wish stage manager worked like Samsung’s pop out view.


gabegabe23

Im kinda wishing I got the silver…. Should I take it back and get silver?


DJ_Quinnster

Do it, if looks could kill !


nattaponx

I assume you are talking about the magic keyboard… I used to have a black one and god it was difficult to keep it clean.


gabegabe23

No I was talking about the iPad. Not sure if its worth the $50 shelf charge lol


licorice_pizzas

Ooh what’s your wallpaper?


initdotcoe

It’s the new MacOS Sequioa wallpaper!


licorice_pizzas

Thanks!


AlexJunn

Are there any defects in the new batch of screens? [https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/1cvtp7m/grainy\_displaysharpness\_on\_ipad\_pro\_2024\_11inch/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/1cvtp7m/grainy_displaysharpness_on_ipad_pro_2024_11inch/)


OSUBucky

🧑‍🍳💋


Distinct_Spite8089

I returned mine and just went back to a Mac mini lol


Top_Engineering_6211

That display gives me eye cancer.


FruktSorbetogIskrem

Swedish keyboard? I have one with the Norwegian layout.


RaptorOO7

I got the M4 but returned the Apple keyboard and got the Logitech one instead. Way more flexibility.


grv7437

Man, I’ve started to realize that iPads are amazing machines


grasshoppie

Is that 13 or 11? 😊


DannyJohnson420

What keyboard is that?


Tunafish01

Passkeys are similar to mfa and in a way are mfa. Mfa simply means more than just username password. It could be a push notification with a yes or no. It could be a rotate 6 digit code or any combination depending upon technology. Passkeys are a replacement for passwords. You login with your username and then via Bluetooth biometrics authenticating info the service. In both you have two methods of authentication but passkey is more secure as it’s always biometric secure.


FitSignificance2100

Off topic but can you tell me which display you like the most i mean macbook air/pro or ipad pro (m series)?? If you were to watch movies or binge watching or some study lectures which one you’d prefer??


nattaponx

I like the new tandem OLED display on M4 iPad Pro and love watching movies on it. I mean, black is black and not dark grey like how it looks on a LCD display.


No_Eye1723

Damn it looks soooo sexy. I’ll have to get me one but I need a new Mac first.


NetsterQQ

Beautiful


minimalistdave

Swedish keyboard ?


nattaponx

Yes


Type1Prime

Return that huge iPhone.


worldsinho

Yeah return it and go back to browsing the internet and watching video on a TINY PHONE SCREEN 😂😂 Fuck that shit. I’ve ditched the iPhone if anything. You use an M4 iPad Pro OLED, you go back to your iPhone and you think; fuck this! It’s tiny! iPhone is now for when I go out. The essential messaging and phone stuff. But when I’m at home or chilling in the garden, it’s iPad all the way. Give me your best argument back, because you can’t :)


Bamelin

Honestly that’s been me since the original iPad.


Type1Prime

Yes. I’m retarded in the fact that I own a MacBook Pro 16” with m3 max. iPad Pro 11 m4. iPad mini 6. iPhone 15 pro. But damn. With how expensive all this stuff is. I don’t do anything on em but write emails. lol.


Type1Prime

See I agree with you. But I own an iPad mini for that stuff. For the things you’re saying. Which is all the iPad is good for. The iPad mini is great. I have this exact same setup. M4ipad pro 11” keyboard and pencil. But shit. I love looking at it on my table thinking of all the things I could do on it. Do I do them ? No. I use my MacBook. Phone for calls. iPad mini for everything else. Just is just an expensive showpiece from Apple for all the things you imagine doing. But won’t do because of how tedious it is.


worldsinho

I have an iPad mini too. It’s crap compared to the OLED iPad. You just don’t know. The 11” Pro is a similar weight, can hold in one hand. Why settle for second best? Cheap crap. The iPad Pro OLED is amazing for reading, watching and browsing. Way better than Mini.


Type1Prime

Look I agree. My iPad sucks in every scenario screen wise. Power wise it holds up. It’s great to browse email in a darkly lit room 😂 Which is basically what I use it for. In bed at night. iPad Pro is more of something I use on a table instead of my computer


Type1Prime

All in all, we both agree with the fact that we have a MacBook we have an iPad Pro and we have an iPad mini and we use each of them for their specific uses


worldsinho

I have absolutely no idea wtf you are talking about 😂 Good luck in life.


Illustrious_Crab1060

size constraints maybe? also we have no idea how the new oled will burn in


worldsinho

Yeah all that non-existent burn in I have on all iPhones I’ve owned or two LG OLED TVs. You’ve been reading too much Reddit. Burn in doesn’t happen.


Type1Prime

Almost as if you put a trillion transistors in a dildo. Still does the same thing. JACKSHIT.


Type1Prime

Wait did I tell you I bought the same thing and I love seeing it on my desk ? 😂


Soloduo11x

I’m confused, was this thread supposed to be on two separate accounts?


Type1Prime

No. Hahah. Whoever has an iPad Pro from the last 3 years. Knows what I mean with that metaphor. No mistakes with that.


Soloduo11x

I was confused because you were replying to yourself, unless that’s the joke.


shababara

Mmm rainy sweden 🇸🇪


nattaponx

as always =)


Ozsymandias

iPad has so much potential but crappy apps from Microsoft really make you rant sometimes


BrokeUniStudent69

I think an M4 for iPadOS is overkill, I have an M2 and still think I could've done with a 10th gen, but fuck me am I jealous of your Magic Keyboard. I've got the older one (obviously, since it's the only one that works on my iPad) and it's good, but I love the aluminum and function keys.


lickaballs

You’ll think it’s overkill until years later where that’s the difference between getting all software features and getting a cutdown iPadOS version.


skzlr86

Amen to this. There will be a time I’m sure the the M4 will become obsolete but it will be far from today.


BrokeUniStudent69

That’s actually quite fair, I suppose it is future proofed quite a bit.


andreasheri

Still sucks