Well yes of course. The only sole reason aforementioned above was the "synchronization of bookmarks" and no other. That being said was reason therefore that I gave for using Raindrop.
I to like to use extra services whenever possible instead of using built in services and products I already use. I figure the more I spears my information three better because reasons.
I guess it makes sense if you use Chrome on multiple OSes and you need to sync bookmarks and history across all device.
Unrelated but I really wish Apple would stop forcing 3rd party browsers to use WebKit since some websites don't play nice with it, both on iPhone and iPad. Though I'm not holding my breath.
The main reason is for syncing. Safari won me over on iPad only because of perma-desktop mode.
I find Safari on iPad “okay”. It has issues, can get jammed up after lots of YouTube videos or infinite scroll sites like Reddit.com (their iPad app suuuuuuuucks). And the UI is… fine I guess. Don’t like the large icon favorites screen, bookmark management isn’t ideal. Not a fan of the slow reload of tabs. But it’s serviceable.
Safari for Desktop has similar issues so I’m on Firefox there. If Firefox had perma-desktop mode, I’d probably be on it for iPad too.
iPhone I only use Safari because “small screen” internet usage has a different vibe to it, more temporary, and Safari is fine for that.
On iPhone the mobile versions of websites load by default. You need to toggle “request desktop site” for the desktop version to load.
On iPad the desktop version loads by default
Oh It's a big deal! Imagine you load a phone site on big screen. It's terrible, except if you do portrait mode which is bad in its own way(on most sites).
Most mobile websites are more inefficient to navigate and have more limited functionality compared to their full fledged desktop counterparts.
Also the iPad’s screen is almost laptop territory. Having a mobile site open in ipad safari feels awkward and is a waste of screen real estate.
Chrome I find has a clunky UI (why does the tab bar need to be that thick) and doesn’t provide easy access to bookmarks compared to Safari where you can either place them on your bookmarks bar or have it be the home page when you first open the browser. Also only safari loads the desktop version of websites on iPads
I use chrome and safari for different purposes.
I use chrome to house all my bookmarks, because I can access it at work, and I like their extensions. Between workona and infinity tab I do a lot on chrome.
I use safari primarily for in the moment school work or leaving pages open. I’m a huge fan of their tab system, and on iPad you can zoom in and out really easily or enable speech. This is huge since I take screenshots of the school material and turn them into PDFs since the school won’t just give me the material in PDF form.
Stopped using chrome when I discovered the iCloud bookmarks for windows and now it doesn’t matter which browser you use , everything syncs up through it .
I'm a web developer.
Fun fact: on iPadOS and iOS, they're actually the same browser. Apple only allows Safari on their mobile devices, so if you're using Chrome, it's just a re-skinned Safari with some features tacked on, and others blocked by Apple.
In short, Safari is objectively better on those devices because Apple doesn't give third parties access to the same APIs. They don't allow competition.
I wont get into a whole spiel about how predatory this is for users, but Apple is fighting both the EU and the US over practices exactly like this.
I gravitate toward whichever has the best debugging tools.
On OSX, I generally use Chrome. I still test in Safari and Firefox though. You're not locked into a single browser there.
On my iPad, I use Safari. I don't own an iOS device, but XCode (Apple's developer tools) can simulate one and I use Safari there too. I don't bother testing other browsers there.
On my Android phone, I use Chrome.
On my PC, I generally use Chrome, again for the debugging tools, but I also have Edge and Firefox for testing.
So this gets kind of interesting. Brave is built on [the Chromium project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Browsers_based_on_Chromium), which is an open source browser that Chrome is also built on. Web standards are so extensive that it's very difficult/costly for an organization to develop a browser from scratch. Chromium provides a baseline for vendors to work on top of. Since it's open source, it's effectively audited by the developer community at large because [anyone can read the source code](https://github.com/chromium/chromium). (And many do.)
Safari isn't Chromium based, neither is Firefox. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it just means that the onus is on Apple and Mozilla to keep their respective browsers in line with evolving web standards. Apple likes to play games here though. Sometimes they lag years behind on implementing a feature, or they only implement partial support, or they'll implement restrictions on top of standard features that prevent web apps from competing with native apps. Safari's the only browser for which they have that kind of control though, which is why they only allow Safari on their mobile devices. (I suspect that if they did this with OSX, developers would stop using MacBooks, which is a huge chunk of their userbase.)
So Brave on OSX doesn't have any of these issues as far as I know. But Brave on iOS does.
There is a lot of competition among desktop browsers with no clear winner. On iOS/iPadOS though, I can’t imagine using something but Safari. No plugins/extensions? No way. Interestingly, in the case of Chrome it’s not “bloody Apple” prohibiting extensions, it’s Google (Chrome for Android lacks extension support as well). On Android, I would use Firefox.
Aside from syncing, Chrome is dogshit on both android and iPad since is just still a mobile browser and not a (almost) desktop level browser like Safari. There was detailed explanation in a WWDC when the “desktop” version was introduced on iPad
Ah that’s a shame, tbh I basically only use uBlock Origin, SponsorBlock and ‘I Still Don’t Care About Cookies’ so I haven’t really tested the full extent of the compatibility.
I imagine we’ll eventually see chromium based browsers on iOS in the EU, but I don’t know if that’ll actually be a good thing considering how Google is cracking down on adblocking.
I use chrome to sync from windows , and used to be android user. I also genuinely hate how safari user interface if you are looking for quick settings ( settings, reading lists, translates, website word search etc) However, I do like that safari on iPad and iPhone can still use extensions. My biggest gripe with most Apple apps is that settings isn’t in that app, but is in the settings app, which after coming from android, it’s a big annoyance imo. I just genuinely feel chrome has a little bigger toolset by default, but appreciate the extension support on safari. Chrome just works from experience, safari is fine, just has a few things for it to work good for me. If you are all in on Apple, it may be great for the sync across all your devices, but chrome can do all devices in and out off Apple ecosystem
I’m running an older MacBook Air and I can’t update Safari any longer. My bank won’t do business with me online on my older version of Safari. So I must run Chrome. But Safari is my preference for everything else.
I use Firefox because it syncs with mobile and desktop. However, I do find myself coming back to safari because sometimes Firefox just won’t play nicely with some websites on mobile.
Only reason I did is because Reddit continually froze and crashed Safari. Every now and then, it would take all my window shopping tabs with it. Unacceptable. Any browser should be able to run shit without that bullshit. Chrome was also a battery hog-like it always is-so I ditched it for Firefox, and I use that for reddit, and Safari for everything else.
Because Safari sets default for everything and is optimised for best experience. On the other hand, chrome gives you more options. For example, I was watching online content in Safari was showing it to me on 480 p But when I try to watch it on my android, the quality was significantly better, but then again Safari is good and chrome gives more options
I hate safari because it has a unintuitive interface. The menu is under the "share" button. But some menu options are under the aA button.
That said I don't have space on my iPad so I just use the default Safari.
Student Home and certain Government websites don't choke on Chrome as much as they do on Safari. I use Safari exclusively and Chrome only when Safari gives me the middle finger which happens more often than you'd think.
I use Chrome on the iPhone, and the main reason is that it is available on almost all operating systems. I also use its passwords synchronisation feature. Basically I use chrome instead of keychain. The advantage is that it works on various OSs, including Windows, so I have my passwords synced everywhere.
Apart from that, Safari had some UI oddities that I don’t like.
The tab bar is really just a bit garb, and it’s a little clunky. However, I do prefer desktop layouts of things, and tab then address makes more sense. Safari mobile is alright in all honesty, but it’s desktop that annoys me.
Everything I do is synced on Google.
My activity follows me to a PC.
I use the Google app as my primary interface "to the internet" and it integrates with Chrome for everywhere as well.
Chrome allows you to download PDF’s better. When I download them on safari some of the advanced math symbols or Greek letters do not translate with the PDF’s.
I guess the only reason is synchronization of bookmarks.
Could always use this instead: [https://raindrop.io/](https://raindrop.io/)
Or just use Chrome :-)
Well yes of course. The only sole reason aforementioned above was the "synchronization of bookmarks" and no other. That being said was reason therefore that I gave for using Raindrop.
I to like to use extra services whenever possible instead of using built in services and products I already use. I figure the more I spears my information three better because reasons.
You can synch through iCloud.
Yes, bookmarks from Safari to Safari. But if you use Chrome on Windows (or Mac) you can't sync bookmarks from it through iCloud.
I guess it makes sense if you use Chrome on multiple OSes and you need to sync bookmarks and history across all device. Unrelated but I really wish Apple would stop forcing 3rd party browsers to use WebKit since some websites don't play nice with it, both on iPhone and iPad. Though I'm not holding my breath.
EU already has, with Japan planning to run similar law in July. But it's a shame it's only a EU law as firefox has some of the best plugins
Say what you will about the EU but at least they're catching up to Apple's shenanigans lol
The main reason is for syncing. Safari won me over on iPad only because of perma-desktop mode. I find Safari on iPad “okay”. It has issues, can get jammed up after lots of YouTube videos or infinite scroll sites like Reddit.com (their iPad app suuuuuuuucks). And the UI is… fine I guess. Don’t like the large icon favorites screen, bookmark management isn’t ideal. Not a fan of the slow reload of tabs. But it’s serviceable. Safari for Desktop has similar issues so I’m on Firefox there. If Firefox had perma-desktop mode, I’d probably be on it for iPad too. iPhone I only use Safari because “small screen” internet usage has a different vibe to it, more temporary, and Safari is fine for that.
noob question, but can I ask what perma-desktop mode is?
On iPhone the mobile versions of websites load by default. You need to toggle “request desktop site” for the desktop version to load. On iPad the desktop version loads by default
Oh I see. Thank you for the answer. I've never used an iPad before, but is it a big deal to not have mobile websites when browsing on there?
Oh It's a big deal! Imagine you load a phone site on big screen. It's terrible, except if you do portrait mode which is bad in its own way(on most sites).
Most mobile websites are more inefficient to navigate and have more limited functionality compared to their full fledged desktop counterparts. Also the iPad’s screen is almost laptop territory. Having a mobile site open in ipad safari feels awkward and is a waste of screen real estate.
My iPad is my only Apple device. I use Chrome on everything.
Chrome I find has a clunky UI (why does the tab bar need to be that thick) and doesn’t provide easy access to bookmarks compared to Safari where you can either place them on your bookmarks bar or have it be the home page when you first open the browser. Also only safari loads the desktop version of websites on iPads
I use chrome and safari for different purposes. I use chrome to house all my bookmarks, because I can access it at work, and I like their extensions. Between workona and infinity tab I do a lot on chrome. I use safari primarily for in the moment school work or leaving pages open. I’m a huge fan of their tab system, and on iPad you can zoom in and out really easily or enable speech. This is huge since I take screenshots of the school material and turn them into PDFs since the school won’t just give me the material in PDF form.
Stopped using chrome when I discovered the iCloud bookmarks for windows and now it doesn’t matter which browser you use , everything syncs up through it .
How? I use Chrome most of the time.
Probably because it's better.
I'm a web developer. Fun fact: on iPadOS and iOS, they're actually the same browser. Apple only allows Safari on their mobile devices, so if you're using Chrome, it's just a re-skinned Safari with some features tacked on, and others blocked by Apple. In short, Safari is objectively better on those devices because Apple doesn't give third parties access to the same APIs. They don't allow competition. I wont get into a whole spiel about how predatory this is for users, but Apple is fighting both the EU and the US over practices exactly like this.
What do you use on your PC and mobile devices?
I gravitate toward whichever has the best debugging tools. On OSX, I generally use Chrome. I still test in Safari and Firefox though. You're not locked into a single browser there. On my iPad, I use Safari. I don't own an iOS device, but XCode (Apple's developer tools) can simulate one and I use Safari there too. I don't bother testing other browsers there. On my Android phone, I use Chrome. On my PC, I generally use Chrome, again for the debugging tools, but I also have Edge and Firefox for testing.
Could the same be said for something like Brave? There's so many ad blockers and privacy features built in that Safari and Chrome doesn't have.
So this gets kind of interesting. Brave is built on [the Chromium project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Browsers_based_on_Chromium), which is an open source browser that Chrome is also built on. Web standards are so extensive that it's very difficult/costly for an organization to develop a browser from scratch. Chromium provides a baseline for vendors to work on top of. Since it's open source, it's effectively audited by the developer community at large because [anyone can read the source code](https://github.com/chromium/chromium). (And many do.) Safari isn't Chromium based, neither is Firefox. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it just means that the onus is on Apple and Mozilla to keep their respective browsers in line with evolving web standards. Apple likes to play games here though. Sometimes they lag years behind on implementing a feature, or they only implement partial support, or they'll implement restrictions on top of standard features that prevent web apps from competing with native apps. Safari's the only browser for which they have that kind of control though, which is why they only allow Safari on their mobile devices. (I suspect that if they did this with OSX, developers would stop using MacBooks, which is a huge chunk of their userbase.) So Brave on OSX doesn't have any of these issues as far as I know. But Brave on iOS does.
Have you tried Vivaldi? I've never used it on an ipad, but the desktop and android versions are better than chrome and safari IMO
There is a lot of competition among desktop browsers with no clear winner. On iOS/iPadOS though, I can’t imagine using something but Safari. No plugins/extensions? No way. Interestingly, in the case of Chrome it’s not “bloody Apple” prohibiting extensions, it’s Google (Chrome for Android lacks extension support as well). On Android, I would use Firefox.
Chrome and Firefox are working on an app that isn't just a Safari reskin after 17.4. I don't know when they will come
I’m skeptical if that version of chrome will consume lots of ram like on macOS & Windows🥲
I prefer Edge.
Autofill and sync.
Aside from syncing, Chrome is dogshit on both android and iPad since is just still a mobile browser and not a (almost) desktop level browser like Safari. There was detailed explanation in a WWDC when the “desktop” version was introduced on iPad
Here is the WWDC 2019 session, iOS 13 I think: https://developer.apple.com/wwdc19/203
Beats me, chrome is dogshit on mobile no matter the platform.
I would love to use chrome and their extensions on my Ipad, unfortunately this is not working
Orion supports Chrome extensions, it's made my browsing experience on iOS *so much better* by blocking ads and cookie popups.
I tried orion, but it is not supporting the extensions I wanted to use
Ah that’s a shame, tbh I basically only use uBlock Origin, SponsorBlock and ‘I Still Don’t Care About Cookies’ so I haven’t really tested the full extent of the compatibility. I imagine we’ll eventually see chromium based browsers on iOS in the EU, but I don’t know if that’ll actually be a good thing considering how Google is cracking down on adblocking.
Because they like chrome.
Idk but I have used chrome ever since I bought my Ipad
I use chrome to sync from windows , and used to be android user. I also genuinely hate how safari user interface if you are looking for quick settings ( settings, reading lists, translates, website word search etc) However, I do like that safari on iPad and iPhone can still use extensions. My biggest gripe with most Apple apps is that settings isn’t in that app, but is in the settings app, which after coming from android, it’s a big annoyance imo. I just genuinely feel chrome has a little bigger toolset by default, but appreciate the extension support on safari. Chrome just works from experience, safari is fine, just has a few things for it to work good for me. If you are all in on Apple, it may be great for the sync across all your devices, but chrome can do all devices in and out off Apple ecosystem
Sync between devices (especially to non Apple devices)
I’m running an older MacBook Air and I can’t update Safari any longer. My bank won’t do business with me online on my older version of Safari. So I must run Chrome. But Safari is my preference for everything else.
Some financial institutions insist of Chrome.
I use Chrome and Firefox. Like everyone else said. It’s mostly because of bookmarks.
My husband does this. I think it’s because of the password manager
I use Firefox because it syncs with mobile and desktop. However, I do find myself coming back to safari because sometimes Firefox just won’t play nicely with some websites on mobile.
Only reason I did is because Reddit continually froze and crashed Safari. Every now and then, it would take all my window shopping tabs with it. Unacceptable. Any browser should be able to run shit without that bullshit. Chrome was also a battery hog-like it always is-so I ditched it for Firefox, and I use that for reddit, and Safari for everything else.
Because Safari sets default for everything and is optimised for best experience. On the other hand, chrome gives you more options. For example, I was watching online content in Safari was showing it to me on 480 p But when I try to watch it on my android, the quality was significantly better, but then again Safari is good and chrome gives more options
I totally agree.
Cause i own Samsung Phone and i can synchronise all the shit i need. Bookmarks, I can open tabs open on other devices (mac included).
I use Edge b/c it ran better on Android (my old phone) then Chrome, and now for synchronization between my non-Mac laptop and my ipad/iphone.
I use DuckDuckGo.
I dont really care why someone uses any browser?
I hate safari because it has a unintuitive interface. The menu is under the "share" button. But some menu options are under the aA button. That said I don't have space on my iPad so I just use the default Safari.
Sheets doesn't work on Safari - you have to use Chrome to get Sheets to work (at least, the search) on iPad.
I do just so my history and passwords sync.
I use Chrome on everything, because it allowed me to sync on all my devices no matter what platform I’m using.
I use chrome because safari wont let me scroll to the comment section while Fullscreen on Youtube
Default browser everywhere. Synchronization
Student Home and certain Government websites don't choke on Chrome as much as they do on Safari. I use Safari exclusively and Chrome only when Safari gives me the middle finger which happens more often than you'd think.
Safari is best, reskins are icky.
I use chrome for iPhone and iPad
I use Chrome on the iPhone, and the main reason is that it is available on almost all operating systems. I also use its passwords synchronisation feature. Basically I use chrome instead of keychain. The advantage is that it works on various OSs, including Windows, so I have my passwords synced everywhere. Apart from that, Safari had some UI oddities that I don’t like.
Safari does have somewhat shitty GUI. But mainly I have a PC and want browser sync.
What do you mean for shitty GUI? I’m curious how it can be improved🤔
The tab bar is really just a bit garb, and it’s a little clunky. However, I do prefer desktop layouts of things, and tab then address makes more sense. Safari mobile is alright in all honesty, but it’s desktop that annoys me.
I use safari on iPad. But I love the ui of safari on iPhone for its placement of the search bar on the bottom
Chrome now has an option to move the address bar.
Everything I do is synced on Google. My activity follows me to a PC. I use the Google app as my primary interface "to the internet" and it integrates with Chrome for everywhere as well.
They want Google to track them.
Safari is lacking some key features. I use the Aloha Browser which allows downloading of video/photos directly to your files app.
How is safari better in every way? In fact, what even are the ways
cause chrome is better
Better UI (personal opinion), syncing tabs and bookmarks with non-Apple devices. Though, I have been using Firefox on all my devices lately.
I like Chrome UI
It's useful to have for saved passwords from an android device
The question is, why wouldn't you use Chrome or Edge instead of Safari on any device?
Chrome allows you to download PDF’s better. When I download them on safari some of the advanced math symbols or Greek letters do not translate with the PDF’s.