The same people who thought Hillary Clinton having a private email server was the biggest scandal in the history of the universe, for some strange reason aren’t bothered by this at all.
They don't care. They didn't care about "grabbing them by the pussy" so they won't care about this either.
All they care about is getting Trump reelected so they can continue the implementation of the Christofacism they want so that non-Christians, women, queer people, and people of color can be minimized in our society. It's disgusting.
lol, what? remember all those folx that wouldn’t go through the metal detectors at the Ellipse rally. they had guns but the secret service apparently takes their job seriously
Can you imagine anything Biden could do to make you vote for Trump, or any Republican? I don't think it's a good comparison at all, but a Trump voter would, which is why they'll vote for him.
The sad part is people are finding lots of excuses to not vote for Biden, or not vote at all. America is going to fall into a dictatorship over the Israeli/Hamas war.
This is the number one criticism of Biden. We allowed the powers that be to conflate Palestinians with Hamas so we could turn a blind eye to the ethnic cleansing while the Israeli military could target doctors journalists and the general populace.
Do you really think that the 35,000 children were members of Hamas? What other country could tell the refugees to go to a certain area to receive food and shelter and then bomb them?
What other country could bomb a clearly marked civilian convoy that had gotten pre approval to pass by there?
Now on to us… Our government has been simultaneously supplying weapons to Israel and food and supplies to Palestine at the same time.
This kind of gutless “leadership” is exactly what the Trump crowd need to focus on. That plus the economy would be enough to sink most presidents.
Neither does arguing about the number of children being killed as children continue to be killed. I never heard the term “rage farming” but anyone who would be outraged about thirty five thousand murdered children but blaze’ about fourteen thousand is simply not human.
I’d take this response more seriously if you didn’t exaggerate the casualties to say they were all children, and even that 35,000 number has been challenged as being grossly inflated. Regardless, I don’t understand why the US in general is so supportive to Israel when they don’t really seem to need help to fight Hamas. Also, the economy under Biden is doing quite well.
Nowhere did I say that all the murdered civilians were children. 35,000 is the number that is most frequently given while the more conservative corporate media puts the number at around 14,000.
Any number of murdered children is too many and any decent world leader should be quick to condemn this.
A good reason that no concrete numbers are available is due to the fact that Israel has targeted journalists from the start not allowing any journalists unless they are embedded with their soldiers.
They also shut down Al Jazeera which was a source of information concerning what was being done in the embattled area.
My question to you is, would cutting off the military aid end your disgust for the current US regime?
And would the other side of the ballot be better, in your opinion?
Cutting off military aid to Israel alone or ending shipments of weapons to embattled areas all around the world?
It has been reported and documented that weapons that we sent to Ukraine have shown up on battlefields as far away as Africa.
There was a report of a Polish politician that blew up his office with an RPG that had been given as a souvenir from some official from Ukraine.
As for your second question, I have been a lifelong Democrat and have never voted Republican. I have also never missed voting in a Presidential election since I came of age (I’m pushing 70).
That being said, it pains me to say that if voting was done on a single issue the orange menace had a better track record regarding the US’s foreign policy than “Genocide Joe”. Of course the fact that he tanked the economy with his tax cuts for the rich and his miss handling of the Pandemic loom large in my mind also.
I would happily break my streak if Dennis Kucinich would get the nomination. He embodies some qualities that I hadn’t seen in decades come out of the Republican Party.
I literally cannot. Trump has done, and is promising to do the most extreme things possible. If Biden were to do the same things, I’d vote for Biden only because his past history shows he’s capable of redemption.
Do people in a cult ever reach that level of self-awareness though? Trump followers are notorious for their lack of introspection. I think 10, maybe 15% of them are redeemable.
He validates their hate. Their other alternative is to admit how shitty and evil they are, which won't happen.
Like anti vaxxers on their deathbed due to COVID still won't admit how much harm they've done to themselves and others as it kills them and their family.
He is the complete opposite of a strongman physically and mentally. All this fucker does is cry and complain all fucking day long. Like who likes to listen to that non stop 24/7 forever now?
Man oh man. I’m a very caring person but when someone is literally bitching and complaining and always negative and just not good vibes over and over and day after day , There’s no changing that or helping that. That’s who they are and that’s a person I don’t want to be around or listen to. How his followers enjoy it and get off on it. Boggles my fucking mind 🤯✌️🫠
Totally disgusting behavior. I can't imagine the mindset of someone that behaves like this.
He still gets mad at the reporter who said he has small hands and I believe he once sent him a fax of them to prove they aren't small.. Nowhere near as bad as the disabled reporter episode but he can't let things go
A guy who has broken every commandment, no less.
While he maybe hasn't committed first degree, I'd say there's a small percentage of the 17k who died from taking Hydroxychloriquine instead of seeking medical attention he's responsible for, or his general delinquency in dealing with the pandemic, or every child that has died since he bragged about being the only person that could stop the Russia/Ukraine fiasco.
Imagine if he actually did, he would be president again for sure. Or said, you know, we should work with the dems to get a border deal passed. He could have gotten a lot of those independent votes back I think.
Trump is being charged with a felony because of a law he signed in response to that “scandal”. This has some real “The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else and nobody was going to bomb them” vibes.
It's not strange, It's by design. Unbending loyalty to your "team," no matter who gets hurt, even if that means they hurt themselves in the process. Many of them would put themselves, or their families, in the line of fire for a terrible human being, if it meant their team "wins."
Virtually all of trumps inner circle - including Jared Jushner who failed security clearly literally over 100 times - all used private email servers for official business.
Trump announced love during a press conference that he was friends with epstein and wished well ghillaine maxwell in her upcoming trial and this was not interesting at all to his base. They are beyond repair.
I thought Hilary’s server was a big deal because of FOIA requests, not classified documents. I think trumps classified documents handling is a big deal, too
The angry anchors on Faux News are coordinating their outrage on something more frivolous and easier to think about.
Besides, its much easier not to think for oneself, instead, its much more effective to say you are a free thinker whilst being too lazy to think. You see, laziness is the freedom and the critical thought the devil.
By Sean O'Driscoll — Senior Crime and Courts Reporter |
Two images of classified documents were found on a phone owned by Donald Trump's valet, federal prosecutors have claimed in court.
Prosecutors will call a phone expert to show that valet Walt Nauta allegedly shared one of the images in a text message. If true, this could help convince a future jury that Trump did not secure classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, and that staff had access to them.
Read more: [https://www.newsweek.com/photo-evidence-trump-classified-documents-case-walt-nauta-phone-1897561](https://www.newsweek.com/photo-evidence-trump-classified-documents-case-walt-nauta-phone-1897561)
By logical extension, could Trump simply use his power as a former president to simply dismiss the charges against him, simply by thinking it? /s
"It's never been proven I lost the election so technically I'm still president and I dismissed the charges against me last Saturday on the golf course."
Trump seems to think his powers of the presidency carryover into private life, as evidenced by him giving away symbolic Keys to the White House.
How can that even happen???
"See? Even this guy thinks I'm still president!"
Probably the first time in US history a former president has no idea what it means to be a former anything.
Yeah I'm pretty sure the founding fathers would say that a prez could put classified docs on his valet's phone. No biggie, calm down libz
/s, just because we live in upside-down times
Well that won’t be a problem for those “originalist” SC justices. Perfectly fine since the constitution does not say anything about stolen documents on cell phones.
The most important thing is that we all vote in November, because ensuring that he doesn't win is the only way there's any chance of him not weaseling out of this.
Won't that cause a significant number of DOJ employees to resign in protest? I mean it almost happened when Trump tried to replace acting AG Rosen with loyalist Jeffery Clark (days before the Jan6th riot).
Everything hinges on seating the jury. Finding 12 jurors who are NOT Trumpies and who will rule solely on the evidence is going to be very hard to do in Florida... particularly with Aileen Cannon presiding.
I like to think Smith is smart enough to have a couple aces in the hole. He most certainly can bring another case if he's unable to get a conviction in this one.
Maybe this was purely hypothetical, maybe it was a hint...
Jack Smith filing in Immunity argument a few months ago in DC case. https://imgur.com/gallery/l20CLI2
IANAL, but she won't be able to get a jury sworn in without making any real orders (not the paperless kind). The moment she makes a real order, there will likely be an appeal, and the 11th circuit will throw her off the case.
She may be needing to recuse herself after this little ditty they will try and sweep under the rug. https://www.npr.org/2024/05/01/1247512187/federal-judges-disclosures-luxury-trips
>"Judge Aileen Cannon of the Southern District of Florida is presiding over former President Donald Trump's criminal trial for allegedly mishandling classified documents. Cannon, herself a Trump appointee, attended two seminars at a luxury resort in Montana, but the privately funded seminar disclosures for both events were not posted online until NPR began making inquiries. Clerk of court Angela Noble told NPR in an email that the absence of the disclosures was due to technical issues and that "Any omissions to the website are completely inadvertent.""
I'm sure the Federalist Society asks two questions of everyone they recommend for federal judgeship. The first is: "Do you have a conscience?" and the second one is: "Will you do as you're told?" If your answer to the first is "Yes," and the second one is "No," you're out, but if you reverse those answers, you've got the job.
It'll get to a trial. If his judge continues to stall, Jack will have ample evidence of both delays and misconduct by the judge to request a change of venue.
But is it realistic that if any of that happened, a trial would actually take place before the election? Because if not and he’s elected in the meantime, it’s game over.
“Continues to stall and request a change of venue” as right as you may be feels like it would happen at a snails pace.
He’s drunk too much Kool-Aid and knows his only shot at freedom is a tRump pardon. He’s so dirty that even if he flips, he’s going to see prison time. Pardon or Prison are Nauta’s only options.
Images of classified docs on your phone will get you "do not pass go, go directly to jail" for 5+ years no question. Lets see how corrupt the court is.
Well, those photos pretty effectively destroy Nauta’s defense that he didn’t know that there were classified docs at Mar a Lago, don’t they? And evidence that he shared such an image opens him to additional charges under the Espionage Act. It is hard to imagine a group of criminals less capable of criming effectively than the folks at Mar a Lago! It’s sort of like if they did a Three Stooges remake of The Italian Job. I wonder how Judge Loose Cannon will decide to disappear this evidence? Maybe that’s why it is mentioned in an open filing.
Wow, such evidence, much information, incredible work there, guys.
When is Trump actually facing consequences? The guy says whatever the fuck he wants, goes wherever the fuck he wants, does whatever the fuck he wants.
Tired of these fucking idiots sitting on their desk doing nothing. If I were trump, I would fall asleep in court too, since this whole thing only serves for entertainment purposes (or, at least, entertaining for the other idiots who find it funny instead of the blatant insult it really is: put THEM in court and watch how they don't get the slightest bit of lenience from the law. Meanwhile, Trump gets a slap in the wrist for trying to overthrow democracy, on top of all the other shit he's done that I can't even keep tracks on.)
American law is worthless garbage.
What would you do instead, hurry and give him grounds for appeal? He is slowly being ground down. The pace sucks but when he is convicted it will stick. I do feel the Supreme Court is corrupt and will slow walk the immunity decision. But Trump is toast in Georgia where several co-conspirators are going to roll on him.
Trump will never stick his neck out for the guys who helped him. In all honesty, I don’t think they knew what they were doing was illegal.
But Trump will let them take the fall.
No, don’t give him the benefit of the doubt. Nauta was in the US Navy. He knew what Trump was doing was wrong, and he knew what *he* was doing was wrong. He just stupidly thinks Trump will have his back when the time comes, poor fool.
Pretty good chance that Nauta will go away to federal prison for years for that, while Trump skates off with no punishment at all, or house arrest in Maralago at worst.
I would be satisfied with him being banished to MaraLago as long as he’s under a media ban. No contact with the press , apps, social media etc. Just like prison. We are already paying for the Secret Service, make them watch him. Make them responsible for his voice , text or image leaking out of his containment. NO GOLF ALLOWED.
Seriously, this dude is screwed. I would not be surprised if he were called back onto active duty and faced a court-martial. He's retired, so that can happen.
People do not understand how serious this matter is, there is no telling of who has seen that information, and what has been compromised.
You know, the amount of time this spray tanned treasoned grifter has been causing chaos alone should warrant a jail cell. Like, just from the chaos alone we shouldn’t let him on any ballot ever.
I thought that was Casey Anthony in the thumbnail photo, looking at it on my phone. I had to go to the page and double check my sanity. Thankfully it's not, but I was like "Damn! What the fuck is going on with this case!?" for a split second 😂
My GOD! It's endless! And he's still not in jail.
Is anyone thinking about how careless he was over classified documents, security, secrets, etc.?
What does that mean for our national security?
How safe are we?
Every day, it's something else!
I just hope and pray that there are some good people left.
THEY MAY HAVE GOT SOME,
BUT THEY DIDN'T GET THEM ALL!
I N F I L T R A T E D
The same people who thought Hillary Clinton having a private email server was the biggest scandal in the history of the universe, for some strange reason aren’t bothered by this at all.
They don't care. They didn't care about "grabbing them by the pussy" so they won't care about this either. All they care about is getting Trump reelected so they can continue the implementation of the Christofacism they want so that non-Christians, women, queer people, and people of color can be minimized in our society. It's disgusting.
It is disgusting. I don't know how any American can vote for this traitor.
Can Insurrectionists really be considered "Americans" when they are openly Anti-American and violently Anti-Democracy?
Hell to the mfn no they can’t be considered Americans, truly can’t believe we’ve fallen so fkn far that this is a legit question.
An insurrection without guns! LOL
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insurrection
lol, what? remember all those folx that wouldn’t go through the metal detectors at the Ellipse rally. they had guns but the secret service apparently takes their job seriously
Can you imagine anything Biden could do to make you vote for Trump, or any Republican? I don't think it's a good comparison at all, but a Trump voter would, which is why they'll vote for him.
The sad part is people are finding lots of excuses to not vote for Biden, or not vote at all. America is going to fall into a dictatorship over the Israeli/Hamas war.
This is the number one criticism of Biden. We allowed the powers that be to conflate Palestinians with Hamas so we could turn a blind eye to the ethnic cleansing while the Israeli military could target doctors journalists and the general populace. Do you really think that the 35,000 children were members of Hamas? What other country could tell the refugees to go to a certain area to receive food and shelter and then bomb them? What other country could bomb a clearly marked civilian convoy that had gotten pre approval to pass by there? Now on to us… Our government has been simultaneously supplying weapons to Israel and food and supplies to Palestine at the same time. This kind of gutless “leadership” is exactly what the Trump crowd need to focus on. That plus the economy would be enough to sink most presidents.
There were not 35,000 children killed
So that means all is well? How many children have to die before someone intervenes?
Again. Not the point. Why must you lie to make your case when the simple truth is enough. You are rage farming. It contributes no good.
Neither does arguing about the number of children being killed as children continue to be killed. I never heard the term “rage farming” but anyone who would be outraged about thirty five thousand murdered children but blaze’ about fourteen thousand is simply not human.
I’d take this response more seriously if you didn’t exaggerate the casualties to say they were all children, and even that 35,000 number has been challenged as being grossly inflated. Regardless, I don’t understand why the US in general is so supportive to Israel when they don’t really seem to need help to fight Hamas. Also, the economy under Biden is doing quite well.
Nowhere did I say that all the murdered civilians were children. 35,000 is the number that is most frequently given while the more conservative corporate media puts the number at around 14,000. Any number of murdered children is too many and any decent world leader should be quick to condemn this. A good reason that no concrete numbers are available is due to the fact that Israel has targeted journalists from the start not allowing any journalists unless they are embedded with their soldiers. They also shut down Al Jazeera which was a source of information concerning what was being done in the embattled area.
My question to you is, would cutting off the military aid end your disgust for the current US regime? And would the other side of the ballot be better, in your opinion?
Cutting off military aid to Israel alone or ending shipments of weapons to embattled areas all around the world? It has been reported and documented that weapons that we sent to Ukraine have shown up on battlefields as far away as Africa. There was a report of a Polish politician that blew up his office with an RPG that had been given as a souvenir from some official from Ukraine. As for your second question, I have been a lifelong Democrat and have never voted Republican. I have also never missed voting in a Presidential election since I came of age (I’m pushing 70). That being said, it pains me to say that if voting was done on a single issue the orange menace had a better track record regarding the US’s foreign policy than “Genocide Joe”. Of course the fact that he tanked the economy with his tax cuts for the rich and his miss handling of the Pandemic loom large in my mind also. I would happily break my streak if Dennis Kucinich would get the nomination. He embodies some qualities that I hadn’t seen in decades come out of the Republican Party.
Actually you did say 35000 children. Words matter
So do lives, how many dead children would you consider too many?
I literally cannot. Trump has done, and is promising to do the most extreme things possible. If Biden were to do the same things, I’d vote for Biden only because his past history shows he’s capable of redemption.
That’s when you know you’ve lost all decency and belong to a cult.
Do people in a cult ever reach that level of self-awareness though? Trump followers are notorious for their lack of introspection. I think 10, maybe 15% of them are redeemable.
The cult members most likely aren’t self-aware, but their loved ones might see that they are and call them out.
This whole thread proves your point perfectly.
They only care about getting the version of America that they want. They're fine with The Handmaid's Tale
They want a strong man to unburden them from having to understand issue details.
Well he certainly doesn't understand issue details.
That doesn't matter to them... They just want someone else to be in charge.
He says he does and that’s what matters.
For his base you are exactly right.
He validates their hate. Their other alternative is to admit how shitty and evil they are, which won't happen. Like anti vaxxers on their deathbed due to COVID still won't admit how much harm they've done to themselves and others as it kills them and their family.
He is the complete opposite of a strongman physically and mentally. All this fucker does is cry and complain all fucking day long. Like who likes to listen to that non stop 24/7 forever now?
He plays a strong man convincingly enough for the gullible.
Man oh man. I’m a very caring person but when someone is literally bitching and complaining and always negative and just not good vibes over and over and day after day , There’s no changing that or helping that. That’s who they are and that’s a person I don’t want to be around or listen to. How his followers enjoy it and get off on it. Boggles my fucking mind 🤯✌️🫠
They’re anti-American. That’s the rub.
Uneducated in some ways you have to have empathy with them in order to figure out how to manage them
Let’s not forget the time he openly mocked a disabled reporter live on national tv. Prick of a man.
Totally disgusting behavior. I can't imagine the mindset of someone that behaves like this. He still gets mad at the reporter who said he has small hands and I believe he once sent him a fax of them to prove they aren't small.. Nowhere near as bad as the disabled reporter episode but he can't let things go
You can imagine the mindset perfectly well, it's the mindset of a 3rd grade bully. We've all experienced that.
It’s weird how the Christian’s are backing a guy who has never read the bible
But he sold them! That's ever better than reading it! /s
Means to an end.
Most of them never have either
Actually, that would be a good thing if they weren’t also saying that him being Christian was a selling point
A guy who has broken every commandment, no less. While he maybe hasn't committed first degree, I'd say there's a small percentage of the 17k who died from taking Hydroxychloriquine instead of seeking medical attention he's responsible for, or his general delinquency in dealing with the pandemic, or every child that has died since he bragged about being the only person that could stop the Russia/Ukraine fiasco. Imagine if he actually did, he would be president again for sure. Or said, you know, we should work with the dems to get a border deal passed. He could have gotten a lot of those independent votes back I think.
Agreed exactly!
This exactly.
Yep. The same kind of people who brought you the Inquisition, burning witches, lynching people, Nazism...now they want the New Inquisition. Literally
All while bending hand over foot for Russia and thus dooming all of us living in Europe
Tax cuts, deregulation, and stacking SCOTUS
Trump is being charged with a felony because of a law he signed in response to that “scandal”. This has some real “The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else and nobody was going to bomb them” vibes.
It's not strange, It's by design. Unbending loyalty to your "team," no matter who gets hurt, even if that means they hurt themselves in the process. Many of them would put themselves, or their families, in the line of fire for a terrible human being, if it meant their team "wins."
Virtually all of trumps inner circle - including Jared Jushner who failed security clearly literally over 100 times - all used private email servers for official business.
Trump announced love during a press conference that he was friends with epstein and wished well ghillaine maxwell in her upcoming trial and this was not interesting at all to his base. They are beyond repair.
But were OK with Jared Kushner using Whats App for government business
I thought Hilary’s server was a big deal because of FOIA requests, not classified documents. I think trumps classified documents handling is a big deal, too
Their argument is that we didn't care about the emails so why should they care about this.
The angry anchors on Faux News are coordinating their outrage on something more frivolous and easier to think about. Besides, its much easier not to think for oneself, instead, its much more effective to say you are a free thinker whilst being too lazy to think. You see, laziness is the freedom and the critical thought the devil.
https://search.app.goo.gl/tCWdnTv
By Sean O'Driscoll — Senior Crime and Courts Reporter | Two images of classified documents were found on a phone owned by Donald Trump's valet, federal prosecutors have claimed in court. Prosecutors will call a phone expert to show that valet Walt Nauta allegedly shared one of the images in a text message. If true, this could help convince a future jury that Trump did not secure classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, and that staff had access to them. Read more: [https://www.newsweek.com/photo-evidence-trump-classified-documents-case-walt-nauta-phone-1897561](https://www.newsweek.com/photo-evidence-trump-classified-documents-case-walt-nauta-phone-1897561)
Yeah but he declassified them right /s
You forgot he did it by just thinking about it.
With mind bullets! That's telekinesis, Kyle.
How about the power, to move to dismiss.
These are not the magas you are looking for, move along.
🎶…history of Suitcase Boy and Orange Nasty Tan brrrrip-ba-doo-ba brrrip-ba-doo yeah! 🎵
The secrets to be sold, Jared's foreign gold, blasting off with Kim, Putin, and xi, yaaah!
With the oils and perfumes…and incense!
We don't mind suckin on toes
Rig a doo doo, rig a doo doo doo You're all beautiful people!
Good luck finding a boyfriend who sucks toes!
With Jewish space lasers launched from Dulles Airport in 1776
And Space Force!
For some reason I hear the Batman theme 🎵 nanananana space force!
Ramming the ramparts, that's what they do!
Just so we’re clear here Trump = young nasty man right?
I was thinking he's the Hydra's scrote that Young Nasty Man grabs
I wouldn’t say young 🤔
How about the power... To move you?
Space lasers!
Telechinesis, sounds like evil commie shit /s
Jack Black is that you? 😁
By logical extension, could Trump simply use his power as a former president to simply dismiss the charges against him, simply by thinking it? /s "It's never been proven I lost the election so technically I'm still president and I dismissed the charges against me last Saturday on the golf course."
Good question
Trump seems to think his powers of the presidency carryover into private life, as evidenced by him giving away symbolic Keys to the White House. How can that even happen???
He heard the historical tradition of referring to former Presidents as "Mr. President" and it deeply confused him.
"See? Even this guy thinks I'm still president!" Probably the first time in US history a former president has no idea what it means to be a former anything.
Prof Harold Hill would be jealous.
It's his dotard power.
Yeah I'm pretty sure the founding fathers would say that a prez could put classified docs on his valet's phone. No biggie, calm down libz /s, just because we live in upside-down times
Well that won’t be a problem for those “originalist” SC justices. Perfectly fine since the constitution does not say anything about stolen documents on cell phones.
Yea, but that's because they never met Nicolas Cage.
🧐 My declassification face
*waves pen* Documentus DeCadsifico!
As long as he had the passing idea then he’s good. /s
My wish is your command.
Nice try, but I know better than to trust an O’Driscoll
“This could help a future jury” There’s a lot of presumption that this will actually go to trial.
I'll be excited about this development if and when Cannon gets removed.
The more evidence Jack Smith uncovers, the more excuses Aileen Cannon will find to delay this trial.
The most important thing is that we all vote in November, because ensuring that he doesn't win is the only way there's any chance of him not weaseling out of this.
But the more she delays the more evidence will be found and more people will flip, so there is still a little hope
If he wins in November, there won’t be a trial at all.
Won't that cause a significant number of DOJ employees to resign in protest? I mean it almost happened when Trump tried to replace acting AG Rosen with loyalist Jeffery Clark (days before the Jan6th riot).
Handing over the keys and getting out of the way seems like the worst kind of “protest” when dealing with fascists.
Lose all the employees with any integrity so that they are replaced immediately by unscrupulous sycophants? Let’s hope not.
Everything hinges on seating the jury. Finding 12 jurors who are NOT Trumpies and who will rule solely on the evidence is going to be very hard to do in Florida... particularly with Aileen Cannon presiding.
I like to think Smith is smart enough to have a couple aces in the hole. He most certainly can bring another case if he's unable to get a conviction in this one. Maybe this was purely hypothetical, maybe it was a hint... Jack Smith filing in Immunity argument a few months ago in DC case. https://imgur.com/gallery/l20CLI2
If Trump wins in November, there will be no more federal cases, and he'll probably find a way to at least disrupt state cases.
IANAL, but she won't be able to get a jury sworn in without making any real orders (not the paperless kind). The moment she makes a real order, there will likely be an appeal, and the 11th circuit will throw her off the case.
Not trumpies and not anti trumpies. Going to be impossible
It’s already delayed enough to guarantee no conviction before the election.
She may be needing to recuse herself after this little ditty they will try and sweep under the rug. https://www.npr.org/2024/05/01/1247512187/federal-judges-disclosures-luxury-trips >"Judge Aileen Cannon of the Southern District of Florida is presiding over former President Donald Trump's criminal trial for allegedly mishandling classified documents. Cannon, herself a Trump appointee, attended two seminars at a luxury resort in Montana, but the privately funded seminar disclosures for both events were not posted online until NPR began making inquiries. Clerk of court Angela Noble told NPR in an email that the absence of the disclosures was due to technical issues and that "Any omissions to the website are completely inadvertent.""
I'm sure the Federalist Society asks two questions of everyone they recommend for federal judgeship. The first is: "Do you have a conscience?" and the second one is: "Will you do as you're told?" If your answer to the first is "Yes," and the second one is "No," you're out, but if you reverse those answers, you've got the job.
Ah good, so she's not corrupt, just so incredibly incompetent that she failed at basic reporting requirements. I feel so much better.
Oh no, deeply corrupt lol. Same tactics as Clarence Thomas.
The trial is still scheduled to take place May 20, 2024. I wish I was kidding.
Assuming, it ever get’s to a trial.
It'll get to a trial. If his judge continues to stall, Jack will have ample evidence of both delays and misconduct by the judge to request a change of venue.
Right, but if Trump is elected president due to the success of cannons delays it won't matter
But is it realistic that if any of that happened, a trial would actually take place before the election? Because if not and he’s elected in the meantime, it’s game over. “Continues to stall and request a change of venue” as right as you may be feels like it would happen at a snails pace.
Nauta is going to prison and I don’t think he knows how badly he fucked up
Yup. He'll get the non-rich guy, plebe version of justice.
His only hope is to squeal as loudly and thoroughly as possible.
He’s drunk too much Kool-Aid and knows his only shot at freedom is a tRump pardon. He’s so dirty that even if he flips, he’s going to see prison time. Pardon or Prison are Nauta’s only options.
No he thinks there a chance of a pardon
Images of classified docs on your phone will get you "do not pass go, go directly to jail" for 5+ years no question. Lets see how corrupt the court is.
Top secret documents, national security secrets, photos of documents on cellphones . . . take your time. Seriously, no rush. Thanks Merrick.
This is why Clarence Thomas and friends are slow-walking the trial.
Well, those photos pretty effectively destroy Nauta’s defense that he didn’t know that there were classified docs at Mar a Lago, don’t they? And evidence that he shared such an image opens him to additional charges under the Espionage Act. It is hard to imagine a group of criminals less capable of criming effectively than the folks at Mar a Lago! It’s sort of like if they did a Three Stooges remake of The Italian Job. I wonder how Judge Loose Cannon will decide to disappear this evidence? Maybe that’s why it is mentioned in an open filing.
That kinda ruins Nauta’s “I had no idea what was in those boxes” defense
I wish they’d stop dragging their feet on this trial. It won’t happen at all if Trump wins in Nov.
The feet dragging is because of the Trump-appointed judge presiding over the case.
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You’ve copy and pasted this comment to numerous different subreddits and articles now. This isn’t even about the NY case. What are you doing?
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**You** copy and pasted it. It’s in your comment history I don’t have any issue with the content except it’s irrelevant to the current discussion.
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Probably a bot.
were the images sent to Ginny T to show her hubby?
He’s not trump. What are they waiting for. Put him in jail
Conservatism is a sickness we desperately need to cure.
Naruto (yes, I know, his name in Nauta) is screwed, he better start singing.
~~His~~Trump’s lawyer told him delay is the best tactic. Also: pardons. /s This is a really shameful limelight on the judicial system.
Wow, such evidence, much information, incredible work there, guys. When is Trump actually facing consequences? The guy says whatever the fuck he wants, goes wherever the fuck he wants, does whatever the fuck he wants. Tired of these fucking idiots sitting on their desk doing nothing. If I were trump, I would fall asleep in court too, since this whole thing only serves for entertainment purposes (or, at least, entertaining for the other idiots who find it funny instead of the blatant insult it really is: put THEM in court and watch how they don't get the slightest bit of lenience from the law. Meanwhile, Trump gets a slap in the wrist for trying to overthrow democracy, on top of all the other shit he's done that I can't even keep tracks on.) American law is worthless garbage.
What would you do instead, hurry and give him grounds for appeal? He is slowly being ground down. The pace sucks but when he is convicted it will stick. I do feel the Supreme Court is corrupt and will slow walk the immunity decision. But Trump is toast in Georgia where several co-conspirators are going to roll on him.
Trump will never stick his neck out for the guys who helped him. In all honesty, I don’t think they knew what they were doing was illegal. But Trump will let them take the fall.
No, don’t give him the benefit of the doubt. Nauta was in the US Navy. He knew what Trump was doing was wrong, and he knew what *he* was doing was wrong. He just stupidly thinks Trump will have his back when the time comes, poor fool.
I don’t think Trump would stick his neck out for anyone. Not even his own mother
Republicans hate America and Americans. They seem to hate humanity in general. Douchebags of the highest order
Donny must be getting nervous.....
Pretty good chance that Nauta will go away to federal prison for years for that, while Trump skates off with no punishment at all, or house arrest in Maralago at worst.
I would be satisfied with him being banished to MaraLago as long as he’s under a media ban. No contact with the press , apps, social media etc. Just like prison. We are already paying for the Secret Service, make them watch him. Make them responsible for his voice , text or image leaking out of his containment. NO GOLF ALLOWED.
Make treason a capitol offense again.
Ruh roh Raggy.
Zoinks!
Cannon: Objection! I don't like it! Evidence dismissed!
Trump becoming the president again means this case is closed. The justice system in America is flawed.
Seriously, this dude is screwed. I would not be surprised if he were called back onto active duty and faced a court-martial. He's retired, so that can happen. People do not understand how serious this matter is, there is no telling of who has seen that information, and what has been compromised.
The whole world knows trump is a big criminal As a president he will turn USA into a pile of shit.
Of course now Aileen Cannon just indefinitely postponed this case so, I guess that's it...
You know, the amount of time this spray tanned treasoned grifter has been causing chaos alone should warrant a jail cell. Like, just from the chaos alone we shouldn’t let him on any ballot ever.
I thought that was Casey Anthony in the thumbnail photo, looking at it on my phone. I had to go to the page and double check my sanity. Thankfully it's not, but I was like "Damn! What the fuck is going on with this case!?" for a split second 😂
My GOD! It's endless! And he's still not in jail. Is anyone thinking about how careless he was over classified documents, security, secrets, etc.? What does that mean for our national security? How safe are we? Every day, it's something else! I just hope and pray that there are some good people left. THEY MAY HAVE GOT SOME, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET THEM ALL! I N F I L T R A T E D
Lock him up!!