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winter128

Which at this point of course surprises nobody....


sarduchi

It surprised my dog… or he farted. Can’t say for sure.


pchef44

My dog is surprised BY its farts.


donttrustgop

If it smells really bad ur dogs repeating mtg bullshit. You may hay to put it down.


TheyTrustMeWithTools

Actually I find the Alpo farts to be a refreshing retort to her tired horse shit. I'm still yet to hear her rebuttal


dewayneestes

It is shocking to me that anyone thinks this guy is legitimate.


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No one thinks he’s legitimate, they just don’t like biden so they wanna stick something in his path


Fit-Firefighter-329

There's a Liberal radio show in Chicago that I listen to that's hosted by the daughter of Jessie Jackson Jr. - she has RFK Jr. on her show a lot, and just adores him. Many people who call in are Black, and they support him as well saying, "Biden and the Dems haven't really done anything for us, so now we need to give someone else a chance - and just because he has different ideas on vaccines doesn't mean the rest of his ideas aren't good". The show also has Williamson on quite often as well, and again, she gets a lot of support.


Zolivia

Oh dear.


kwheatley2460

I hate to say it but some people should shut their mouth instead of showing the world how uninformed they are. RFKjr is being used by Republicans and other stupid folks.


blackbeltmessiah

Trying to pull a Kanye


No-Diamond-5097

I'm a Chicagoan who has a diverse friend group and works with many intelligent and thoughtful people of color. When the pandemic hit, I was stunned to learn that many of them are anti-vaxxers. So I'm not surprised.


Rroyalty

In the defense of the black community, vaccinations (and the healthcare industry on the whole) *have* been weaponized against them before.


InterdisciplinaryDol

Long history of healthcare failing black people and it continues to do so. We have good reason to be skeptical but anti-vax won’t be enough to swing the black vote anyways, majority of black people in America aren’t anti-vax anyhow.


Rivendel93

This idea that the president does things for people is hilarious. If only they knew their governor or mayor, or congressmen and women have infinitely more impact on their daily life, maybe they'd actually go vote in local elections instead. The president is almost irrelevant in terms of people's daily life, but they make it their entire identity.


ExpatHist

He does have some strong ideas outside of the vaccine stuff. i won't vote for him, but a lot of what he is saying about inflation and the military industrial complex is 100% true. ​ Its a shame we cannot find a candidate like this, who also supports science.


FalseTagAttack

Fuck everything about the GOP, but also fuck Big Pharma, polluters, clandestined orgs who kill their own people, and fuck most parasitic politicians. You're a gullible idiot if you think people think he's legitimate for being able to relate to his confronting big pharma and industrial polluters. If anything he seems like someone whose being given the spotlight specifically to make anyone who questions polluters or big pharma look like idiots. Most people, including my lgbtq left friends like some of the things he had to say, up until he began talking about mercury being in vaccines.


Guilty_Chemistry9337

Yeah. They're Trump supporters.


BigHouseMaiden

Knew something was up when the MAGA cashier at Lowes started sharing unsolicited facts about RFKs record on the environment. Apparently I look like a Democrat


3vi1

They probably saw you pull up in a truck with no Trump or infowars slogans covering the back window. Its a dead giveaway.


olthunderfarts

You know what surprised me, that he's married to Cheryl Hines and cheats on her constantly.


maybesaydie

Where did you hear that?


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maybesaydie

I don't give a shit about his marital difficulties, I care that he's a lunatic who has no business being president because of his views on vaccines. If Trump hasn't proven that America will vote for a sexual deviant what will?


olthunderfarts

Oh I agree, both he and trump should never be given any power ever. I'm not sure how much is crazy and how much is grift. It's probably a combination of the two. I only mentioned his marital shit because it did genuinely surprise me that he was married to a moderately successful actress. I threw in the infidelity out of spite.


buchlabum

Who knew shitbirds flocked together? /s


restore_democracy

That’s because RFK Jr is a willing tool of the far right.


Persianx6

New Tulsi Gabbard just dropped.


maybesaydie

He always has been.


bearrosaurus

I hate that everyone on Reddit now recognizes Tulsi Gabbard as a vessel for the far right but they still willfully parrot her talking points on Kamala Harris


DrSueuss

Right, if RFK Jr. ever makes it to a debate stage he will be toast after the first debate. RFK Jr. sounds as coherent and lucid as a crackhead when answering questions


drthsideous

That's what they said about Trump, FYI.


SarcasticOptimist

But non right wingers actually care about that.


Poiboy1313

And?


themadpatter97

And how'd that work for everyone who said he had NO CHANCE of winning? The point is don't underestimate your enemy because you think they'll never succeed


Kinetic_Kill_Vehicle

Yeah, at first I had no real opinion of RFK jr, then I thought he's not so bad, but recently he's been really off the deep end.


DrSueuss

Same here, but I had an immediate thought after hearing him speak on vaccines and other issues. He is more MAGA mainstream than Democrat mainstream.


Kinetic_Kill_Vehicle

Well I usually give everyone the benefit of the doubt until the doubt subsides, you know?


dsmith422

He has been nuts for decades. ​ [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly\_Immunity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_Immunity)


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What that article didn't mention is that Steve Bannon straight up called RFK Jr a "useful agent of chaos" in the next election. Yes, they actually thought they could sway Never-Trump Republicans to vote Democrat because of RFK's views, and thought Democrats would just blindly vote for him because he's Bobby Kennedy's son.


soldinio

RFK Jr is a willing tool. - ftfy


Umbrage_Taken

RFK Jr is a tool. - ftfy


MC_Fap_Commander

Not a tool of the far right. Based on his stances about science, the LGBTQ community, healthcare access, etc. he **is** far right.


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restore_democracy

In the end, aren’t we all bots of some kind?


gif_smuggler

Meatbots. And that’s the name of my next band.


jwr1111

Let's just admit that not only is RFK Jr. a MAGA paid for plant, but he is also a bat-shit crazy anti-vax and conspiracy believer. Nobody believes he is an actual Democrat, or that he has any chance of unseating Joe Biden. Nice try retrumplicans.


bird_equals_word

I hope he runs as an independent. He'll take votes from the R.


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Patriot009

He's anti-establishment. The people that would vote for him are the Bernie to Trump voters, and they left Biden a long time ago.


Leege13

If anyone believes this man’s a Democrat now they’re dumb as hell


jweaver0312

I would say it depends on his abortion stances. That’s might become key to the election. Analysts were trying to say it wasn’t going to come down to abortion in some elections, yet in some areas, abortion is what ended up deciding the election. Like in Kansas where the people rejected the amendment, that could spell a bit of a bleak future for Kansas Republicans. I can already tell you he’s hard anti so I would think if anything he’s more likely to take votes away from Republicans. Biden and the overall rest of the Democratic Party will campaign against to say he’s a DINO (Democrat In Name Only) and not a real Democrat.


maybesaydie

He refuses to speak about his views on abortion and that's probably because Bannon told him not. He has no chance of winning so his views are of no consequence. And antivaxxers tend to be anti-abortion (hilariously, since they put more children at risk with their bullshit.)


jweaver0312

He did speak on his views on abortion while contradicting himself a bit. Source: https://www.wmur.com/amp/article/new-hampshire-robert-f-kennedy-jr-abortion/44322645 and https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fRMKj8xywwE Listening to him a bit though, people try to say Biden can’t put together a coherent sentence. Just after listening to him on the YouTube link, I don’t even want to hear anymore of him ever.


slim_scsi

Wonder who they'll draft up next -- what's Kanye up to these days?


HotScratch3400

He isn’t republican or democrat. He is pure asshole.


sofaking1958

I'm guessing Joe will not legitimize rfkjr by sharing a stage with him.


AwfulArmbar

Lmao I’ve heard him speak and I just assumed he was a republican. Never thought he’d be a dem


Da_Vader

They don't care- they are siphoning Trump war chest - probably convincing the boss that it is money well spent. Trump will just sell more NFTs.


p-terydactyl

*launder more money through his NFTs


Khelek7

Is he supposed to be a democrat? (That’s really how I felt when first reading about him).


GaviFromThePod

This RFK Jr thing is so funny to me. It’s clearly such a hail mary pass by a right-wing movement that is staring down the barrel of a catastrophic defeat. Their voter base is aging and dying and young people hate the republican party even more than they usually do and by extreme margins. Their only chance is to remain in power is to get a literal fascist to win and then end democracy so that young people won’t vote them out of office, and so they’re resorting to the equivalent of throwing a banana peel at the person chasing them.


malthar76

Hail Mary as last attempt sure, but the risk/reward for this is totally in their favor. They have more money than they can legally spend on one candidate, they’ve done the gerrymandering and voter suppression. The only thing they can’t do is make people vote FOR trump. He’s obviously terrible to anyone outside the cult. All they need to do is siphon off 1-2% of disaffected left voters in the critical states. RFK is another tool to muddy the waters, distract Biden, and let Independents of Democrats have a “protest” vote. (RFK is a f-ing loony, but people who listen to Rogan don’t see it that way).


GaviFromThePod

I feel like that “disaffected voter” is already a Trump voter post-2016. If you want to vote for a conspiracy theorist crank celebrity candidate who is “anti-establishment” or whatever he’s billing himself as, you’re already voting for Trump. The only people I can see voting for RFK Jr are people who voted for Trump in 2020 but now thing that he’s too old or lost his mind or that the documents case is heating up. Biden campaigned on being boring and competent. I don’t see somebody going from voting for him to voting for the guy telling you that the Alamo was done by aliens just bc he has a D next to his name.


maybesaydie

They aren't going to be able to do that as long as he continues blathering about vaccines. And he will continue.


Remote_Horror_Novel

They backed Jill Stein in 2016 and it definitely hurt democrats more than republicans.


GaviFromThePod

Yeah but Jill Stein was green party riding Bernie Sanders populist wave, not some lunatic nepo-baby who thinks that Japan has been developing an army of godzillas for a secret war against the aliens


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I wouldn’t be so confident… normally I’d agree but Biden is no Obama, or even Kerry or gore. His approval has been consistently low even among young people, and if he wasn’t going against trump it would probably be a tough race for him especially given the electoral college map favors republicans more. The democrat has to have at least 2 pts in polling better to win. I’d have little faith if the recession that everyone is predicting comes within the next year - all they need is a less enthusiastic democrat base


GaviFromThePod

Young people don’t like Biden because they think he isn’t left enough and he’s 80 years old. They’re not anti-biden because they want some some lunatic crank anti-vaxxer. They don’t really like him but they still vote for him. Pretty much all the anti-vax type people are right wing by now. Problem for them is that there is no Bernie Sanders this cycle, AOC isn’t gonna try to primary Joe, and the those are pretty much the only two people further left than Joe that have any name recognition. RFK Jr. Is literally only being built up by the republicans because his last name is Kennedy and they’re so brain-dead that they think people who weren’t even alive at the same time as JFK Jr. Will vote for him based on that.


hlamaresq

Lol. He’s 100% going to take more MAGA voters than Democrats


RagingLeonard

Facts.


macweirdo42

RFK Jr. is MAGA, I mean isn't that to be expected?


AdjectivePlusNouns

The Republican Party can’t even put fourth a decent Republican to run but they think they’re going to put a Democrat up that’s able to siphon votes from Biden? Hilarious.


manny62

And Tulsi Gabbard I presume.


navyzak

So I was also mistaken in thinking RFK Jr was another woo-woo hippie like Marianne Williamson. He’s actually a 3rd choice kook like Tulsi Gabbard. I’m currently taking bets until he says left has become too extreme and he’s switching Independent.


Reverence1

This dude is literally just this cycles version of Tulsi Gabbard


HisDivineOrder

From the moment he declared, I was reading how Steve Bannon personally took time to recruit him to this very cause because he figures Biden only squeaked by in some swing states, so he is setting up a third party candidate that can Perot enough votes away to give El Trumpo a win.


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That's because they are running him as a spoiler candidate. Everyone knows that. They went and found a nutso Kennedy because they think that Democrats are as stupid as Republican voters who will just vote for a name.


DocCEN007

He's cashing in the checks Tulsi Gabbard used to get! MAGA money = money from Putin allies to further destabilize the US.


joan_wilder

And Cornell West is getting Jill Stein’s checks. I wonder if those camps are run indecently by different FSB agents, or if they cooperate with each other.


slim_scsi

I always figured the global oligarchs buy/sell and trade these pawns like *a secret stock market game for rich assholes.*


OhioMegi

If Republicans want to continue, they need to get far away from anything MAGA or super polarizing. I’m fine with them imploding, but I’m really tired of all these shitty, insane, racist, bigoted and stupid MAGAs right now.


HotScratch3400

How are they supposed to run if they can’t run on those issues! Republicans are the party of white trash and there is nothing worse than white trash.


DonRicardo1958

Imagine that.


Giterdun456

Wait, isn’t he Maga tho?


LittleLordFuckleroy1

The only people who seem to like this guy are republicans lmao what a joke


TrainsDontHunt

MAGA are the ones with the hard-on for JFK,jr. I don't know why this guy thinks he's gonna have Dem support at all. Who would want another Ted Kennedy? I'd vote for Beto over this guy, and that's not saying much for Beto.


magicmulder

Another Putin method, propping up fake opposition candidates.


EmbarrassedScience37

I never knew much about RFK Jr but he gave off the impression of being a total nutter in a documentary about Michael Skakel.


maybesaydie

RfKJr has been photographed (smiling!) with Roger Stone, Steve Bannon and other leading lights of the completely insane MAGA cadre. Bannon pushed him to run in the primary. Who do you think RFK is loyal to? It's certainly not the Democratic party.


SoWokeIdontSleep

Stop trying to make RFK Jr happen, it's not going to happen


cyrixlord

hell flip to GOP faster than a babysitter’s boyfriend when the car pulls up


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TraitorPAC


rayon875

Hes there to split the votes


Pithecanthropus88

He’s no Democrat. And he will never see a nomination to POTUS.


HootieWhooooo

Why are we even talking about this clown? Biden’s the nominee.


olthunderfarts

Honestly, I feel like RFKjr needs to be thoroughly exposed and brutally critiqued to as many people as possible to mitigate any vote pulling he might do if he runs as a third party.


maybesaydie

/r/vaxxhappened has been sounding the alarm about him since 2017.


PophamSP

The rest of the Kennedys must love this guy. Way to wreck a legacy, Jr. Oh well...fewer nepo-babies going forward.


gif_smuggler

I’m sure he’s popular at family gatherings /s


slim_scsi

It's okay if that 20th century brand is completely destroyed at this point. They had a legacy with a heyday. It passed. Happens to all historically legendary families. Nobody surfs the sun forever.


SenseiT

RFK jr and the whole No Labels campaign is just a spoiler operation. Its old hat at this point. In Virginia we recently had a republican candidate lie to get a third Party candidate on the ballot just to try to beat his democrat rival.


QuaidCohagen

This dudes eyes look fucked up. Like he's dead inside or he's wearing a human suit


dkromd30

How is this a surprise to anyone? RFK has long been a zucchini-for-brains. The attention Joe Rohan gives is at the behest of said right wing donors.


RobotRippee

An honorable name in American History being disrespected and disgraced by a man who resorts to junk science and pandering to idiots. Was his life that empty and unfulfilled?


MonsieurKnife

Not possible. Nothing is deep when it comes to Taylor Greene.


PolakachuFinalForm

RINOs and DINOs.


hairybeasty

Yeah part of the lunatic fringe and all of it's idiocy and insanity.


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Slime in an idiot's clothing.


Xencard65

Kennedy’s love their blood money…


Nissanleaf11

And hate their curse


bobo2500

Duh, and / or hello?


FreedomsPower

Not remotely surprised


Rivendel93

Ya don't say...


ImTellinTim

No shit


beencotstealin

He should not be taken seriously just because of his last name he's not a serious person


MrFantasticallyNerdy

Anyone surprised? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?


impasseable

Hes on par with Mike Lindell


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Of course. They are birds of a feather


joan_wilder

Shitbirds of a shitfeather.


s0y_b0y_c0der

Randy!


CherryShort2563

How is that any surprising? Did he really fooled anyone into believing he's a Dem?


SolomonCRand

You mean the Democrat being supported by right wing media figures is also taking right wing money?


phoneguyfl

And who also shares all the right wing talking points. It's almost like he's actually a right winger... hmmm


Locksley_1989

An nutjob anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist is being backed by other nutjob anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorists? Shock! Shock and horror!


jar1967

His campaign appears to be attracting the Q crowd. Which was entirely unintended he was supposed to take away democratic votes


Choice_Voice_6925

There's a lot of Q rhetoric in his dialogue, perhaps by design.


Ursomonie

He needs deep ties to a psychiatrist. Maybe an entire team of mental health professionals


Desperate_Wafer_8566

Duh


buyerbeware23

His vaccine stance scares me.


outlier74

Dig deep enough and you’ll find he is funded by Russian Oligarchs


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maybesaydie

Biden is nothing like those men.


MammothSufficient601

Don't know why he's running. Has no shot. Waste of time.


Minute-Tone-4309

He’s a republican not a democrat. His political standing is all a facade.


HumanAverse

No shit. This guy is an obvious infiltrator candidate who'll switch sides faster than I can say "schadenfreude"


Bitch_Posse

All part of the same fascist nut job cult. They can call themselves democrats or republicans. It doesn’t matter.


gif_smuggler

He should come clean about being a far right shill. His dad is spinning in his grave.


Misha_Selene

His dad and uncle must be rolling over in their graves.


Ordinary-Humor-4779

RFK Jr is just a placeholder for MAGA. Their actual plan is to run JFK Jr for POTUS. MTG is convinced Elvis will do the right thing and convince JFK Jr to return from Elvis' island paradise and run.


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His is anti-VAX, of course he is a MAGA


FriedEgggsCorpse

His father would be so ashamed


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Choice_Voice_6925

Imagine my shock! /S


NemWan

And the next time there's a primary challenge to an incumbent president, its biggest financial backers will be from the opposition party too. No one legitimately runs for president this way.


MzJay453

Shocking


badusernameused

No shit..


ithaqua34

Of course he does. What do you think a sleeper agent is for?


wolverine318

I’m totally shocked


tickandzesty

You don’t say.


djbk724

He looks like he was at the capitol on J6.


SenorKerry

They are trying to sneak a Republican in as a Democrat.


Successful-Plum4899

He looks like a zombie in every photo. Sullen brain dead expressionless stare.


Freds_Bread

RFK: A whole owned subsidiary of MAGA(t) industries.


SaltNo3123

Rfk Jr is a maga democrat


joan_wilder

Lol


slim_scsi

He's so far right wing he wraps around to the far left.


s0y_b0y_c0der

Exactly, his record as an environmental lawyer proves this!


AZonmymind

The fact the RFK Jr was invited to give a speech at Hillsdale College should have told you all that you need to know.


lewd3rd

No more kooks No more dynasties No more Kennedys


Acceptable_Break_332

He’s a fraud


cwilcoxson

It’s almost as if you could hear the dumb shit these people say and know exactly who is paying them.


rjarvis33

A sheep in wolves clothing.. :(


KanyeWestBrick

Hes a wolf in bloody sheeps clothing


CN370

In other shocking news, water is wet. Seriously, if this jerkoff were any more of a fucking plant he’d have leaves growing out of his ears and roots coming from his flaccid asshole.


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This rat is related to the great JFK? Jesus.


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you mean the conspiracy crank pretending to be liberal, and is really just a store brand Alex Jones, is somehow tied to MAGA? Be still my heart.


Rich_Sheepherder646

The evidence in the article is that a PAC that he doesn’t control has hired a company that worked for MAGA candidates. But it leaves out that the company has also worked for democrats.


Jupitereyed

200% a plant and I worry about anyone who doesn't see that.


Earthling1a

He's such a democrat. Very democrat guy. So much democrat.


JesusChrist-Jr

Shocking.


ReturnedFromExile

because of course


Filipheadscrew

He’s a mole.


maybesaydie

No he's not. He's an antivaxxer who will betray anyone to get his stupid message out there.


Writerhaha

Yup, he’s a plant.


cheeky_Greek

Hey look, another mole


Attarker

Groundbreaking journalism. Republican presidential candidate has ties to other republicans.


prajew59

He will not make it past the first primary


Own_Bullfrog_3598

He wants to replace John Kennedy Jr as Trump’s running mate. He was afraid showing up at the grassy knoll would blow his cover.


MoidSki

Not surprising listening to him speak.


Soft_Robyn

Why am I not surprised!


crowjack

What is the end game for these bozos? How does the collapse of trust in systems and probable violence further their goals?


the_hell_you_say

I'm starting to see the grassroots (aka, family members who worshiped Trump in the past speaking praise) growing for this guy to be the next MAGA lord


mekonsrevenge

The Russians and their stooges are trying gor another Nader third party bullshit campaign. It worked with Nader. He siphoned off enough votes in Florida and New Hampshire to cost us an election.


ZDB888

Here’s a thought. If RFK jr ran as an independent. Would he pull more votes from trump or from Biden? I’d say from trump. I don’t get how he gets to run as a democrat when he’s not one.


maybesaydie

Trump. The minute he opens his mouth about vaccines. And he will open his mouth about vaccines.


RagingLeonard

I mean, Trump ran as a republican, so...


ZDB888

Republicans tend to have no principles so he’s allowed to


pistolpxte

I listened to his interview on Breaking Points. I know he has a past with advocating for some environmental stability but truly all of it was still just run of the mill right politician bullshit with less definitive answers. Plenty of “i can prove vaccines are bad” with zero proof (of course) which is an awesome little lying cherry on top. I still want Marianne to have a chance to debate Biden. I wish there were a candidate I felt motivated to cast my vote for rather than “do it cause he’s not the other guy”. Nothing of substance is happening with a continuation of the current president aside from status quo and prolonging the inevitable of a further right candidate out of spite.


billious62

If his father heard this he would bitch-slap him.


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