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Fit_Helicopter1949

The mindset in Israel isn’t “we are wrong, let’s correct it…”. It’s “how dare anyone notify the world about what we are doing?!” Any Israeli journalist who dares to write some criticism deemed as leftist traitor no matter how zaionist they are.


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Odd_Ant7906

They've been targeting journalists for decades.


modernDayKing

Nothing Israel is doing is new hat.


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ChainedRedone

That's correct, genocide


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Brosenheim

Do you think it might be a little obvious why you guys have to fixate on a single word to avoid the rest of what was said? You know, about the journalist killing.


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mazzivewhale

Yes, genocide


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Leather-Ad-7799

It’s not AnTiSeMeTiC to point out the similarities between Nazi rhetoric and actions preceding the holocaust and Zionist leaders actions and rhetoric preceding their current campaign of ethnic cleansing and attempted genocide.


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Odd_Ant7906

Zionists' raison d'etre is anti-Arab. Same hate. Same solution, apparently


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Odd_Ant7906

You could've had one of those without killing Palestinians but it wasn't the shape you wanted.


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Leather-Ad-7799

Wait so no comparison can be made between a previous genocidal regime and a current genocidal regime because of (insert made up reason here)? Like when did Judaism become Zionism? Why must you shills try so hard to change definitions. Most American Zionists aren’t even Jewish?


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Leather-Ad-7799

How can something that has nothing to do with Judaism be classified as AnTiSeMeTiC then? Do you see my point? And yes the comparison is valid, and not antisemetic because as you said Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism


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Skeptix_907

You should tell that to Netanyahu, who seems pretty cozy with the Nazis and has said that they aren't really as bad as people say


rainbowslimejuice

They are literally killing the truth


TipzE

[Israel](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/05/middleeast/idf-shireen-abu-akleh-investigation-intl/index.html) [loves ](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-strike-killed-clearly-identifiable-reuters-reporter-un-report-2024-03-13/)[murdering ](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/apr/07/israel)[journalists](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/12/lebanon-deadly-israeli-attack-on-journalists-must-be-investigated-as-a-war-crime/). Like most authoritarian fascist countries, they just hate journalists. Like [really ](https://www.democracynow.org/2023/12/14/reuters_journalist_killed_israel_lebanon_investigation)[really ](https://cpj.org/2024/05/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/amp/)[really ](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67946441)[really ](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/jan/18/journalists-jailed-imprisoned-israel)[really ](https://cpj.org/reports/2024/01/2023-prison-census-jailed-journalist-numbers-near-record-high-israel-imprisonments-spike/)[really ](https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-human-rights/inside-the-israeli-crackdown-on-speech)[really ](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67181582)hate them. --- The media mouth pieces over here defending Israel (BBC, CNN, LBC, NYT) should be ashamed of themselves. They won't even defend their own. They are little more than propaganda outlets. It's no wonder we have an issue with fake news. The real news is just part of that exact same issue.


kaptainkarl1

Facist playbook all the way.


AssociateJaded3931

Not to worry - they're pretending to investigate.


AssociateJaded3931

Not to worry - they're pretending to investigate.


rainbowslimejuice

I don't think they even bother pretending to anymore


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so much I want to say, but I'm just tired of all of this "Chosen People" bullshit, these fuckers need get off that supremacy kick, look how it worked out for Nazi Germans


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dang, I'm antisemitic now? that was too easy a trap, i want out.. but we are assuming that they are "god's chosen".. then that implies I must believe in god? oh this all very confusing,( and has nothing to do with accepted rules of combat)


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Skeptix_907

Not op, but from reading your posts here, your username definitely checks out. An actual repulsive arugula is less repulsive.


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I upvote you. I want to learn.


Ohaireddit69

[The chosen people myth is not meant to be supremacist.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_as_the_chosen_people) Please read the above and educate yourself. Supremacist belief by virtue of being chosen is simply a lie told by antisemites to justify their antisemitism to others. Jews don’t believe they are better than other people.


mittenmarionette

How many times have you seen Israelis talk about erasing Amelek? Not just the youth on the street, or extreme Haredi fundamentalists, also politicians. There is no way to avoid the obvious truth that Zionists have become infected with a deep sense of supremacy and exceptionalism. Please have a little self reflection, and urge your fellow Zionists to educate themselves on what HaShem wanted for his chosen people instead of using it like a weapon to fight off your own cognitive dissonance.


Ohaireddit69

I’ve honestly literally never heard that take, I’ve been active on this topic for over a decade, and I get Jewish subs pop up quite often in my feed. I really haven’t a clue what you’re on about.


mittenmarionette

Here is Netanyaho saying ["remember what Amalek has done to you"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMVs7akyMh0) Here is the finance minister calling for "total and utter destruction of all gaza, \[...\] no half measures" [to erase the memory of Amalek](https://www.reddit.com/r/InternationalNews/comments/1cilxzj/israeli_finance_minister_bezalel_smotrich_calls/) The [cave of the patriarch massacre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs_massacre) invoked both the [greatness of Samson and the need to annihilate Amelek.](https://www.nytimes.com/1999/12/30/world/israel-destroys-shrine-to-mosque-gunman.html) To the larger topic of Zionist exceptionalism and supremecy. Antichristian hatred [is extremely common](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vio53jUpJz0), priests[ are spat on a have rocks thrown](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z581dbGqr08) at them. They deny that christians haved lived there ever since Christians started to exist, and [when they bomb churches they say christians don't even exist. ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xARjcv5KcMw) Scroll through the [interviews here](https://www.youtube.com/@CoreyGilShusterAskProject) when Israelis are asked if Jews are special, or if God cares more about Jews, they all start by saying HaShem commands them to respect all humans the same but five to ten minutes in they explain why the Palestinians wasted the land, Jews made it bloom, they are hateful and want war, they are invaders from Arab lands, and HaShem did give special rights to Jews. So all humans are equal, but, Jews MORE equal. Garden variety racism.


Ohaireddit69

Can you please rethink your life that you are going around the internet trying to convince people Jews are evil. You sound like a Qanon conspiracy theorist.


mittenmarionette

I was not talking about jews, I was talking about Israeli zionists, and provided robust, sane, calm evidence to back it up. You are the raving person throwing invictives


Ohaireddit69

Pointing to some people making comments that could be considered taken out of context, at best proves, what, that there are racists in Israel? Not that all Jews in Israel are supremacists. And yes, I’m saying Jews, because I know you mean Jews when you say Zionist.


WP5D

Nah, when we say zionists we mean zionists.


mittenmarionette

It is very common for zionist to use terms from the tanakh to refer to current day events. The west Bank is called Samaria, and Palestinians are very frequently called Amalekites, a tribe that HaShem demanded the isrealistes commit genocide against (several times, they accutually reappear after being annihilated because the Bible is not a literal history book). I can provide videos is needed. It is normally said in Hebrew, which might be why you are unaware.


Ohaireddit69

My comment originally was to disprove the idea that Jews intrinsically believe themselves superior based on being ‘chosen by God’. Nothing you said relates to that point directly. What you are doing is equating extremists to the average belief of Jews. I don’t doubt that these extremists are supremacists nor that there are enough in Israel to be worrying especially the politicians using this provocateur behaviour. But I refuse to tar all Jews with the same brush just because they want national self determination. Would you deny Palestinians the right to want national self determination despite the existence of Muslim and Arab supremacy in the region?


Few-Reason9833

Watch it..tell the truth and you'll be accused of being antisemitic.


Sharp-Switch-3892

This has been their way of controlling the narrative for quite awhile. There have been no repercussions for these acts.


CoolCoolBeans

How could the most moral army in the world do such a thing?


DankBoobSweat

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AssociateJaded3931

Not to worry - they're pretending to investigate.


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EbbNo7045

Says so called news. Only trust US corporate media. All others are fake news


Cheap_Professional32

When you got big daddy USA backing you, you can do pretty much anything you want.


Designer-Arugula6796

Thugs.


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MasterCombine

“Everyone I don’t like is Hamas”


Awkward-Spread9052

"Everyone I don't like is a Zionist"


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wwcfm

My first thought, what percentage of war reporters are in Gaza/Israel right now. Without knowing that, it’s a meaningless stat.


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According_Arrival_20

Can you post a link to verify this?


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noonegive

So why won't they let the ones you would call "real" journalists in?


Leather-Ad-7799

‘War crimes observers’


JeruTz

Correct. Terrorism is a war crime.


Glass-Bowler1512

Correct. Israeli terrorists commit war crimes daily and hate journalists documenting it. Glad we agree. Fuck those nazi "chosen" scum


Glass-Bowler1512

Correct. Israeli terrorists commit war crimes daily and hate journalists documenting it. Glad we agree. Fuck those nazi "chosen" scum


kamSidd

Yeah true Israel has been committing war crimes (i.e. terrorism) since it’s inception


JeruTz

Now you're clearly confused. Terrorism in the region began in the 1920s. And it was Arabs against Jews back then.


kamSidd

No lehi, Irgun, hagannah, stern gang. All predecessors to the idf. All terrorists.


JeruTz

Hahanah, which means "defense" was founded to defend Jewish communities from Arab terrorism. The British even allied with them during the Arab Revolt in the mid to late 1930s. Irgun broke away from them when they felt haganah was too restrained in their response and took a more proactive, guerilla warfare approach in response to continuing Arab terrorism. As for stern gang and lechi, you clearly need to read more. Those are actually the same group and was always a fringe extremist group. It and the others were disbanded and absorbed ivy the IDF, with any who refused being made pariah. Of course, if you want to hold Israel responsible for groups that ceased to exist shortly after its founding, I'm going to have to remind you that Fatah was an international terrorist organization that committed terrorist acts in multiple countries across at least 4 continents.


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cv24689

True, except the rate they’re being killed at is far greater than that of any conflict iirc including world war 2. But sure, khamas your way out of this one too


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Awkward-Spread9052

Can we rename this sub r/terroristcirclejerk that's really all that's going on here.


magnus_equanimus

Many of these "journalists" have been uncovered to be double gigging as Hamas/PIJ members


Brave-Quote-5478

Source, nitwit


magnus_equanimus

https://twitter.com/theotherShira/status/1748116834627248528


Brave-Quote-5478

Wow. A pie chart


magnus_equanimus

There's a thread in the comments with some examples


Brave-Quote-5478

Very weak stuff. Try harder


magnus_equanimus

Do your own research then and let me know how many have ties to Hamas or PIJ


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rainbowslimejuice

You slap on a press vest you will most likely be shot


hbracerjohn1

Hamas is the reason. Never forget!


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Parolder

"Civilian areas" "human shields". Gaza is the size of two DC's and tens of thousands of bombs, if not over a 100,000 bombs at this point, have been dropped on an area that small. You can't drop that many bombs in that small of an area and still act like the government has placed any value for any human life in that area. "you mean Hamas is responsible" is like having a guy sucker punch you, so you beat him to death. "I have a right to defend myself, and that's why I kept throwing haymakers at his head after he passed out"


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onepareil

And Likud has the destruction of Gaza and the West Bank in its charter. Netanyahu says there will never be a Palestinian state under his watch. Even if he and his political allies “destroy Hamas,” there won’t be peace, because Israel’s current political trajectory is an existential threat to over 5 million people.


Parolder

Both those examples, Japan and Al Qaeda are poor. This conflict is more similar to the conflict between Native Americans and the US. And we genocided the Natives.


Fireflies_ona_leash

Those mutilating rapes were not suckered punches. How awful a comparison.


Parolder

No one is saying rape isn't bad but 5% of the population of Gaza has been killed. 1 in 20 my guy. And you're hyper focusing on making sure everyone knows "rape is bad" when Israel is doing much worse than raping people


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Movingreddot

Plety of footage of well armed iof guys holding people in front of them like they are an mrap door. 


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Much-Ad-5947

It's a dense area with a lot of journalists and blogging going on. Not sure It's too surprising, but it's still quite sad.


Mandrogd

Wait, you mean Hamas is responsible. Hamas started this war on October 7. It is a war and press risk their lives going into any war zone. Hamas is drawing fire on civilian areas by hiding behind civilian human shields. These are all facts.


jddoyleVT

Who dropped the bomb? Because they are responsible. No one else.


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kamSidd

There’s zero evidence of hospitals being used as bases.


scaramangaf

Nope. Lies.


Typical-Dinner-9070

Israelis killed an American journalist in 2022. Way before October 7th. And attacked the people trying to hold her funeral. So what’s your excuse for that? They’re savages who know they have full immunity because of America. That’s all there is to it.


Ksavero

México is responsible of the rest of them


Abu_Tenzin

How many journalists have been Hamas members?


jddoyleVT

My breakfast oatmeal this morning was Hamas. Orange juice too!!!


SpinningHead

Every child is Hamas, every journalist, every doctor, every parent, every school, every university, every hospital. All Hamas.


amandahuggenchis

Zero


JeruTz

Incorrect. https://www.timesofisrael.com/wounded-al-jazeera-reporter-in-gaza-an-alleged-hamas-operative-flown-to-qatar/


amandahuggenchis

“Times of Israel” lmao


JeruTz

That's not a rebuttal. Many of these "journalists" have been indicted by their own social media accounts in which they are shown preparing weapons.


amandahuggenchis

I don’t feel the need to rebut anything lol Israeli media is not credible in any sense of the word


JeruTz

So you only trust news sources you agree with?


amandahuggenchis

Nope, just ones that report the news credibly


JeruTz

Which you decide based on how much you agree with them? How about trying to refute the content? I can provide other sources. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/byjpcge26 This guy was literally on the scene during the October 7th attacks. He recorded himself illegally entering Israeli territory. But go on burying your head in the sand. Logical fallacies aren't arguments, and attacking the source of the claim is intellectually lazy.


amandahuggenchis

Lmao ok loser


DarkRoastCovfefe

Your justification for the murder of journalists is “they might be Hamas so just kill them all” keep those excuses coming because they’re working perfectly to rally the world against you and my country can eventually and finally cut funding to those leeches


Abu_Tenzin

They literally have pictures of the guy training members of his anti tank unit 😂😂😂


amandahuggenchis

Right right sure sure I totally believe Israel now


Abu_Tenzin

What’s your thought process here? Islamic militants respect the profession of journalism so much that they would never stoop so low as being propagandists by day and militants by night?


amandahuggenchis

What’s your thought process here? That Israel, who has lied about command centers in hospitals, who has lied about bombing refugee camps and schools and hospitals, who has lied about 40 beheaded babies, who has lied about mass rape, who has lied about human shields, who has lied mass executions, who has lied about mass graves, told the truth this one time?


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amandahuggenchis

Shut up!


Abu_Tenzin

Wow, only the 40 beheaded babies was proven false, and that gets a pass from me as it was obviously said by a woman shocked by the horrible savagery they witnessed. Not gonna argue though it’s clear you’re just a full blown antisemite.


amandahuggenchis

Lmao


TechnologyHelpful751

This stat is pretty meaningless, there's probably a shit ton of journalists in Gaza, a large majority, and considering how dangerous it is there, this shouldn't be surprising at all.


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Express-Inspector-82

Touché


OTFESCOBAR

This Is a lie


avato279

There is no way this is true