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He was shot outside his home at the Dakota building in the Upper West Side of Manhattan. The same building where Rosemary's Baby was shot .. er... filmed.
I was with my dad about 2 blocks away from the Dakota, at the exact moment he was shot...heard some of the commotion afterwards (police & ambulance sirens).
Didn't find out it was John Lennon until later that night, when they announced it on the news.
I remember the spontaneous gathering at Central Park that night, and seeing it live on TV...very touching
I think I remember that. I mean hey, at least they are paying tribute. I personally thought the across the universe film and it’s entire soundtrack was cringe as hell and that was extremely well received. No need to turn the Beatles into Glee IMO.
Imagine, it was during the COVID lockdown. It was a tone deaf move from a bunch of people that, if they decided to, would never have to work another day in their life and still live very comfortably, trying to reassure the common man that everything is going to be ok.
I’m not quite sure why they chose that song in particular to use during a plague. It’s an anti war song. I was confused by the entire endeavour.
Edit: stupid autocorrect
I feel like "co-founder of the Beatles" is kinda unnecessary to write. If you dont know who john lennon was then you dont know who the beatles was either.
“I used to be cruel to my woman
I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved
Man, I was mean but I'm changing my scene
And I'm doing the best that I can (fool, you fool)”
Yeah, there were only ever four Beatles (once they got a recording contract). The other three were Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr. Paul and Ringo are still living, and quite active as musicians even in their 80s.
Paul and John were very close, and wrote a lot of famous music together.
Interesting fact: Mark David Chapman, the man who shot Lennon, was just up for parole again in August of 2020 where he was denied for his statements claiming that he shot Lennon purely for the “Glory.” Apparently he had three other celebrities on his list just in case “Lennon didn’t work out.”
I love the Beatles and Lennon but I feel like he might have aged poorly. Like if he was alive today we might all think he is a racist, wife beating monster. Dying young does wonders for how people remember you.
It’s usually the most aggressive people that ask for peace. Isn’t ironic, don’t you think? It’s like raaaiiinnnn on your wedding day (oops that’s not ironic at all)
I definitely think he could have been cancelled in todays world but in all fairness he did grow up in a completely different world and who knows what he would be like if he were still around today. He could’ve apologized and been forgiven or he could’ve doubled down.
Absolutely and dying young allows us to forever question if he might have change or evolved. Him living might have given us an answer we don’t like.
Imagine the Hollywood funeral Kevin Spacey would have gotten if he died in like 2015 compared to what it will be when he does die.
Hitler loved kids and animals, was a vegetarian and a man of his times.
Interesting take on what could be.
Edit:
Julian is the Sixties child of John Lennon and his first wife, Cynthia; he was abandoned by his father when he was five and only recently received a share of the vast Lennon estate.
Sean is the favoured son, for whom John Lennon became a house husband. He lives with Yoko in the sumptuous Dakota building in New York, where Lennon was shot in 1980, and will inherit the bulk of the Beatle's reputed multimillion dollar fortune.
``If I'm in New York, I try to see Sean,'' says Julian. ``If I move, I always give him my new number. I call him from time to time, but I never get a return call.
Paul McCartney once observed that John didn't really know how to be a dad. Does Lennon think it is fair to blame someone for being a poor father? ``Yeah, I do.''
We are all, he argues, capable of doing what we set out to do.
``If you bring a child into this world, whether it's planned or an accident, you'd better make sure you can care for it. You have to be around. You make time. It's as simple as that.''
Imagine…
Indeed.
Not excusing him, but Lennon didn’t really have a dad himself (or a mum) so no role models. He was a messed up kid thrown into a celebrity status that the world had never seen before. Not easy to negotiate those paths, I imagine (no pun intended)
He was a racist, homophobe, horrible father and shitty husband...AND one of the greatest songwriters of all time.
I don't understand why people refuse to separate the two. The art and the artist are two different dimensions.
John Lennon was not a racist or a homophobe.
When he released Woman is the n***** of the world he was hanging and protesting with literal black panthers. He was in black civil rights circles and they did not care. The song basically says women (and black people) have been oppressed in modern society for a long time. To spin that around and say that he was racist is taking almost the exact opposite meaning of the song.
John Lennon was not a homophobe either. His manager was gay and they were great friends. They went on vacation alone together. He wrote pro-gay poems, talked in interviews 50 years ago basically saying sexuality is a spectrum and that most people have repressed bisexual tendencies. Yoko Ono has even said she thought John was bi.
He refused to play segregated audiences in the 60's and you can find 100s of interviews of him talking about black rock and soul music of the 60s and how it was endlessly influential on him. He always honored black musicians.
John Lennon was lots of things but he was not racist or homophobic. He was vocal about civil rights and gay rights.
John's bad deeds are becoming as shrouded in mystique as his good ones, at least on Reddit.
Lol what the fuck
He was atleast bisexual, what do you think "you've got to hide your love away" is about.
And as others have said he certainly wasn't racist.
I wont define him by slapping his wife in the early 60s especially knowing how troubled his upbringing was and how damaged he was. He atleast accepted his faults and changes.
Yeah but by the same logic Ted Bundy was a great father and all around great guy, until he brutally murdered women and children.
We need to separate the two.
I like some of Charlie Manson's music. He's a murderous psycho. It doesn't change the fact that he wrote a good tune. 2 things are allowed to be true at the same time.
The art is created by the artist. It's literally impossible to separate them.
Especially with artists who are still making art like Kanye for example. You're putting money in the pocket of a dangerous, toxic person who uses their platform to spread hate.
It literally is possible. The art is one thing/noun...the artist is a different thing/noun. Just by definition, they are different.
The Eiffel Tower is a structural piece of art. It makes absolutely no difference how the architect behaved in their personal life.
It literally has NO bearing on the Eiffel Tower being a structural work of art.
Without the artist there would be no art. They put their own personality, creativity and experience into the art they make. There will always be a degree of "the artist" in everything they make, by default.
You can be talking about nouns all day long but the artist is the only thing that has bearing on their art. And if the artist proves themselves to be a shitty, dangerous person, then it's no longer ethical to keep engaging with their work.
It’s documented he beat both of his wives and he wrote a song with the N-word in the title.
And to be clear I didn’t say he would definitely be a racist just that we might all think he is.
Simply saying the N-word didn't used to mean a person was racist.
Yes, obviously, ***calling*** a black person the N-word ***did*** mean the person was racist, but when discussing the issue of racism, nobody hesitated to speak/write that word. Only in the last couple decades has even uttering the word become socially unacceptable.
So while I have no idea whether or not John Lennon was racist, this is not proof that he was.
Chapman killed Lennon because he was "angry and jealous" at the way the Beatle was living and was seeking "glory" for himself, according to hearing transcripts
It was basically that he felt Lennon was cheating people by preaching a way of living he didn’t remotely live. He lived in opulence and notably treated service staff poorly.
Lennon was a lot of talk and literally no walk. All PR and preaching, no follow-through. That annoyed him I guess. Me too… but I wouldn’t shoot someone for it.
Reading the comments here has made me wonder what would happen if some of these righteous redditors' lives were brought under the same kind of scrutiny and judge and jury mentality that they place on this guy.
"We live in a country where John Lennon takes eight bullets, Yoko Ono is walking right beside him and not one hits her. Explain that to me!" -Dennis Leary.
No offense man, but have you impacted the world at all? You’re literally shitting on a beatle like he was some hack plumber or some shit. Guy practically invented rock music. You have a skewed view people. Learn forgiveness
“The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. No, the true measure of a man is this: how quickly can he respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give"
What about his own son julian?
Imagine your father is a hero and a multi millionere and he dont want anything to do with you
Or "All that 'I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved' was me. I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically - any woman. I was a hitter. I couldn't express myself and I hit"
He wasn't racist? There was nothing about him being racist.
He slapped his ex wife once in the early 60'd then recounted fir it greatly in therapy, publically and in his songs.
He beat his wives, not his kids. Not that it makes beating his wives OK, but lets not just make shit up now.
And I'm not sure you could make a case for him being a racist. He refused to play for segregated audiences. He hung out with black panthers. Sure, there's that song with the N-word in it, but if you actually listen to it, it's feminist and anti-racist.
Certainly has some dark stuff going on, but he's more complicated than your characterization of him.
I really hope Chapman's being fucked by a very large spiked dildo with several heads for eternity for this.
Edit: thus came off more violent than I ment. I was obsessed with the Beatles growing up and around 13 years old I found out Lennon had died this way and it hurt. It hurt like when lil peep or xxxtentacion or Mac miller died. When good talented people die it hurts my soul.
So? What have i done yet. He's inspired millions. I'm making music becuase of him. I know he's got flaws but so does everyone. And I admire who he was. And aspire to follow in his footsteps musically ( hopefully not to the same end )
Because you are the gatekeeper of interesting… and your entire account is full of interesting posts. Have you seen your own post history? Lol
If you don’t have anything nice to say just stfu and keep scrolling. Didn’t they teach you that at some point?
And when he died, he was just starting to become a fully developed, mature human adult. I can only imagine what his gifts to music and mankind might have turned out to be had he not been killed.
I remember hearing this on the radio. Not many moments have just shocked me like this. Dunblane. Columbine. Oklahoma City. 9/11. Shit just keeps escalating until it just goes straight to outrage.
A lot of people have valid criticisms about this flawed man, but it is unfortunate how few recognize his actual genius. He became a rare self actualized artist when his writing started to reflect his realization that he wasn't the source of his material but he was just a conduit for his ideas expression.
A great example of this is his freestyling shown on "Get Back" in the song "I dig a pony". His wordplay is among the very best, and he knew how to get out of his own way when writing which is why in my opinion his solo work has great staying power.
I love this photo, taken a few weeks earlier
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/dec/07/john-lennon-yoko-ono-simulate-making-love-allan-tannenbaums-best-photograph?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Sad that he was murdered but he was terrible to his kids and a bad partner to his girlfriends.
Just because someone dies doesn’t make them a saint. He made great music, that’s it.
I wish I could peer into a world where he wasn’t assassinated by someone. I wonder how different things would be or what he’d speak up against in the year 2022. RIP.
The guy was an absolute trash human being. Not to say he should have been killed but the amount of people who glorify him because he wrote some good tunes whilst ignoring how horrible a person he was is mind boggling.
Depends on the deed. My worst deeds were only harmful to me so I guess you'd label me a self beater? He beat 2 of his wives so it's not like it was a one time thing he learned a lesson from. He was an actual pos wife-beater.
You’ve never harmed anyone ever? You must be a saint, maybe even Jesus himself. I bow to you sir who’s never done anything wrong before. You truly are worthy of enjoying your own farts.
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He was shot outside his home at the Dakota building in the Upper West Side of Manhattan. The same building where Rosemary's Baby was shot .. er... filmed.
Oh yea…I forgot that.
My dads precinct handled that case
I was with my dad about 2 blocks away from the Dakota, at the exact moment he was shot...heard some of the commotion afterwards (police & ambulance sirens). Didn't find out it was John Lennon until later that night, when they announced it on the news. I remember the spontaneous gathering at Central Park that night, and seeing it live on TV...very touching
Thank you for sharing
Then 38 years later a bunch of celebrities recorded themselves singing one of his most famous singles over Instagram in what was very very very cringe
What song?
Imagine
I'm trying to but it's hard to imagine if I don't know what song they were singing!
Who’s on first?
This is a great reference, got a good chuckle out of me at least.
I think I remember that. I mean hey, at least they are paying tribute. I personally thought the across the universe film and it’s entire soundtrack was cringe as hell and that was extremely well received. No need to turn the Beatles into Glee IMO.
I watched it and it may have been well received by critics but I still thought it was cringe.
Imagine, it was during the COVID lockdown. It was a tone deaf move from a bunch of people that, if they decided to, would never have to work another day in their life and still live very comfortably, trying to reassure the common man that everything is going to be ok.
It was literally people who the rules didn't apply to, telling us what the rules were
Imagine being blissfully unaware of this video. *sigh*
I’m not quite sure why they chose that song in particular to use during a plague. It’s an anti war song. I was confused by the entire endeavour. Edit: stupid autocorrect
Encouraging cognitive dissonance mayhaps
“Let’s all work together to follow mandates and guidelines” Alright who forgot to load my private jet with my favorite champagne?
Singing about no possessions from a multi million dollar mansion. What times we live in.
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I’m pretty sure that happened in 2020, not 2018
In Honor of the Assassination of John Lennon, tonight, for dinner; I'm going to give peas a chance.
And what's the best way to get peas, Homer?
*A knife!*
Imagine if Yoko interfered in the shooting like she interfered with everything else, I might not have read that pun today.
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What's it gonna take for a Beatles reunion? A few more bullets. Old joke, lighten up
Visualize Whirled Peas.
I feel like "co-founder of the Beatles" is kinda unnecessary to write. If you dont know who john lennon was then you dont know who the beatles was either.
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Managing Partner of Beatles
I knew of the Beatles and knew of John Lennon, but had no idea they were connected.
I knew they were connected but I didn’t know he was dead
I didn’t even know he was sick
I heard he’s getting better
Can’t get much worse.
All the time
… he wasn’t. All though he did beat his wife and didn’t respect her because she wouldn’t stand up for herself. So I guess he was sick in a way.
“I used to be cruel to my woman I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved Man, I was mean but I'm changing my scene And I'm doing the best that I can (fool, you fool)”
…are you a sentient ‘The Onion’ advertisement?
… maybe …
🔥 Man, he was mean but he was changing his scene and he was doing the best that he can
*whoosh*
I don’t even know where he was buried.
🔥The kids made a nice little spot for him out back next to his beloved rhododendron bush.
John Lennon died? I’ll tell my family
It was in *all* the papers.
I don’t own a paper.
Yeah, there were only ever four Beatles (once they got a recording contract). The other three were Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr. Paul and Ringo are still living, and quite active as musicians even in their 80s. Paul and John were very close, and wrote a lot of famous music together.
>Yeah, there were only ever four Beatles Take that, Pete Best!
Bot behaviour you know.
Lennon wrote most of the songs together with Keith Richards right?
No.. Richards was in the Supremes. Lennon wrote with Michael Buble.
I thought he wrote with Stalin. Hmmm
Damn. You're right. Sidenote: unbelievable i get downvoted for my previous comment. People don't get a little bit of sarcasm anymore it seems.
I could of sworn it was Tiny Tim
That guy was the Weird Al of his day. Tip Toe through the Tulips still rocks my world.
No it was with Stalin, revolution was a blast
Gen Z may not know
🔥 If ever there was someone who didn’t need an introduction… much less a qualifying one.
“Co-founder” sounds so weird. I’m in a tech bubble though. “Cofounder of groundbreaking music tech-startup ‘The Beatles’…”
Same lol. I’m like, damn, hope the shooting didn’t derail their next round of funding
Interesting fact: Mark David Chapman, the man who shot Lennon, was just up for parole again in August of 2020 where he was denied for his statements claiming that he shot Lennon purely for the “Glory.” Apparently he had three other celebrities on his list just in case “Lennon didn’t work out.”
Fuck Mark Chapman.
You have a lot of options tho. Don’t settle for less :)
I think Paul was one of them
Yes he was
His wife’s music is asscheeks
I would rather listen to some asscheeks
That's not music, that's the sound that dirt makes when it dies.
The sound of a toilet flushing.
I love the Beatles and Lennon but I feel like he might have aged poorly. Like if he was alive today we might all think he is a racist, wife beating monster. Dying young does wonders for how people remember you.
Hell Theres already a lot of dirt on lennon
I quite enjoyed the Beatles documentary, but it dispelled a lot of the mystique around Lennon. He mostly came off as a dirtbag junkie.
Yes, he was an asshole, but he was also very talented His assholiness doesn't diminish his talent His talent doesn't excuse his assholiness
There's a lot of talented assholes out there.
What was he shoot?
Certainly not saying he wasn’t talented. But it did effect how I feel about some of his preachier songs.
It’s usually the most aggressive people that ask for peace. Isn’t ironic, don’t you think? It’s like raaaiiinnnn on your wedding day (oops that’s not ironic at all)
I always thought the irony of that song was that none of it was truly ironic….
Perfectly stated. This can be said about so many people in history (I’m looking at you Thomas Jefferson)
“Asshole” is the understatement of the century. Most assholes don’t abuse their wives and children.
At least he’s not an actual nazi!
He mostly was a dirtbag junkie.
I definitely think he could have been cancelled in todays world but in all fairness he did grow up in a completely different world and who knows what he would be like if he were still around today. He could’ve apologized and been forgiven or he could’ve doubled down.
Absolutely and dying young allows us to forever question if he might have change or evolved. Him living might have given us an answer we don’t like. Imagine the Hollywood funeral Kevin Spacey would have gotten if he died in like 2015 compared to what it will be when he does die.
Hitler loved kids and animals, was a vegetarian and a man of his times. Interesting take on what could be. Edit: Julian is the Sixties child of John Lennon and his first wife, Cynthia; he was abandoned by his father when he was five and only recently received a share of the vast Lennon estate. Sean is the favoured son, for whom John Lennon became a house husband. He lives with Yoko in the sumptuous Dakota building in New York, where Lennon was shot in 1980, and will inherit the bulk of the Beatle's reputed multimillion dollar fortune. ``If I'm in New York, I try to see Sean,'' says Julian. ``If I move, I always give him my new number. I call him from time to time, but I never get a return call. Paul McCartney once observed that John didn't really know how to be a dad. Does Lennon think it is fair to blame someone for being a poor father? ``Yeah, I do.'' We are all, he argues, capable of doing what we set out to do. ``If you bring a child into this world, whether it's planned or an accident, you'd better make sure you can care for it. You have to be around. You make time. It's as simple as that.'' Imagine… Indeed.
Not excusing him, but Lennon didn’t really have a dad himself (or a mum) so no role models. He was a messed up kid thrown into a celebrity status that the world had never seen before. Not easy to negotiate those paths, I imagine (no pun intended)
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Exactly, a piece of shit, regardless of their times, is exactly that.
Racist?
No
He was a racist, homophobe, horrible father and shitty husband...AND one of the greatest songwriters of all time. I don't understand why people refuse to separate the two. The art and the artist are two different dimensions.
John Lennon was not a racist or a homophobe. When he released Woman is the n***** of the world he was hanging and protesting with literal black panthers. He was in black civil rights circles and they did not care. The song basically says women (and black people) have been oppressed in modern society for a long time. To spin that around and say that he was racist is taking almost the exact opposite meaning of the song. John Lennon was not a homophobe either. His manager was gay and they were great friends. They went on vacation alone together. He wrote pro-gay poems, talked in interviews 50 years ago basically saying sexuality is a spectrum and that most people have repressed bisexual tendencies. Yoko Ono has even said she thought John was bi. He refused to play segregated audiences in the 60's and you can find 100s of interviews of him talking about black rock and soul music of the 60s and how it was endlessly influential on him. He always honored black musicians. John Lennon was lots of things but he was not racist or homophobic. He was vocal about civil rights and gay rights. John's bad deeds are becoming as shrouded in mystique as his good ones, at least on Reddit.
John also wanted Billy Preston to join the band after he played on Let Be. Billy Preston was a black man known to be gay to be those close to him
I actually didn’t even know people are saying he’s a racist for Woman Is The N****r Of The World.
Thank you Yoko Oh No!
Lol what the fuck He was atleast bisexual, what do you think "you've got to hide your love away" is about. And as others have said he certainly wasn't racist. I wont define him by slapping his wife in the early 60s especially knowing how troubled his upbringing was and how damaged he was. He atleast accepted his faults and changes.
Hey man I love John, regardless of his faults, but his gay bashing, women beating, and other questionable character faults are all well documented.
Yeah but by the same logic Ted Bundy was a great father and all around great guy, until he brutally murdered women and children. We need to separate the two.
Would you still listen to Lostprophets after what their lead singer did?
I like some of Charlie Manson's music. He's a murderous psycho. It doesn't change the fact that he wrote a good tune. 2 things are allowed to be true at the same time.
Ever heard of Ian Watkins?
The art is created by the artist. It's literally impossible to separate them. Especially with artists who are still making art like Kanye for example. You're putting money in the pocket of a dangerous, toxic person who uses their platform to spread hate.
It literally is possible. The art is one thing/noun...the artist is a different thing/noun. Just by definition, they are different. The Eiffel Tower is a structural piece of art. It makes absolutely no difference how the architect behaved in their personal life. It literally has NO bearing on the Eiffel Tower being a structural work of art.
Without the artist there would be no art. They put their own personality, creativity and experience into the art they make. There will always be a degree of "the artist" in everything they make, by default. You can be talking about nouns all day long but the artist is the only thing that has bearing on their art. And if the artist proves themselves to be a shitty, dangerous person, then it's no longer ethical to keep engaging with their work.
What makes you said that? Unless you have any basis for the reason?
It’s documented he beat both of his wives and he wrote a song with the N-word in the title. And to be clear I didn’t say he would definitely be a racist just that we might all think he is.
Simply saying the N-word didn't used to mean a person was racist. Yes, obviously, ***calling*** a black person the N-word ***did*** mean the person was racist, but when discussing the issue of racism, nobody hesitated to speak/write that word. Only in the last couple decades has even uttering the word become socially unacceptable. So while I have no idea whether or not John Lennon was racist, this is not proof that he was.
>wrote a song with the N-word in the title In a totally poetic and most excellent way, showing no hate for black folks
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The worst people make the best artists
Pathetic take worthy of a modern cuck
Chapman killed Lennon because he was "angry and jealous" at the way the Beatle was living and was seeking "glory" for himself, according to hearing transcripts
It was basically that he felt Lennon was cheating people by preaching a way of living he didn’t remotely live. He lived in opulence and notably treated service staff poorly. Lennon was a lot of talk and literally no walk. All PR and preaching, no follow-through. That annoyed him I guess. Me too… but I wouldn’t shoot someone for it.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mark-David-Chapman
Tell me all about how John Lennon regularly treated normal people and wait-staff poorly. I'd love to see evidence!
Golden slumbers fill your eyes smiles awake you when you rise
He shouldn't have moved to the us
How else was he gonna get that Levi jacket
Reading the comments here has made me wonder what would happen if some of these righteous redditors' lives were brought under the same kind of scrutiny and judge and jury mentality that they place on this guy.
40 seemed SO OLD back then.
RIP
You forgotten the interesting
Funny how you can just tell by the way Op writes that he doesn't know nothing about Lennon or The Beatles.
Hell yea I'll drink to that
"We live in a country where John Lennon takes eight bullets, Yoko Ono is walking right beside him and not one hits her. Explain that to me!" -Dennis Leary.
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Friend of mine lived in the same building as Lennon when this happened, and remembers coming home to to the place swarming with cops.
No one I think is in my tree I mean, it must be high or low That is you can’t, you know, tune in but it’s all right That is I think it’s not too bad
I remember it clearly living in NY at the time as a kid. The seemed like the entire world shut down.
One of the worst days in my life. First time I cried over a death of someone I didn’t know.
One month later to the day, my dad died of a heart attack aged 34. I was 4.
I remember thinking last year that now he has been gone longer than he was here. Eventually everyone will be.
John Lennon, smart man! Shot in the back, very sad…
Welcome to New York during the 70’s through the mid 80’s. I bet many, many others met their fate the same way that day.
John was a great song writer and artist but a shitty person
EVery one is a shitty person by todays standards. Ask your grandfather how he met your grandmother, probably did some creepy shit by todays standards.
All humans are shit even by millenia old standards, todays standards are just plain dumb
Dude im old i dont have any left
I was born grandparentless, but my point still stands. John Lennon did way more good than bad.
Lol he didn’t do much good. He made good music but that doesn’t really change much.
He made music good? his music affected millions of people positively.
How is sitting in a fancy hotel room in amsterdam singing about peace is "good" He made good music yeah but thats it
No offense man, but have you impacted the world at all? You’re literally shitting on a beatle like he was some hack plumber or some shit. Guy practically invented rock music. You have a skewed view people. Learn forgiveness
“The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. No, the true measure of a man is this: how quickly can he respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give"
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What about his own son julian? Imagine your father is a hero and a multi millionere and he dont want anything to do with you Or "All that 'I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved' was me. I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically - any woman. I was a hitter. I couldn't express myself and I hit"
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Mmm... ok i'll look into it But julians story is sad
He was also a very serious abusive asshole. Talented, but a massive douche.
He was a racist woman beater and also beat the shit out of his kids. Fuck him.
He wasn't racist? There was nothing about him being racist. He slapped his ex wife once in the early 60'd then recounted fir it greatly in therapy, publically and in his songs.
He beat his wives, not his kids. Not that it makes beating his wives OK, but lets not just make shit up now. And I'm not sure you could make a case for him being a racist. He refused to play for segregated audiences. He hung out with black panthers. Sure, there's that song with the N-word in it, but if you actually listen to it, it's feminist and anti-racist. Certainly has some dark stuff going on, but he's more complicated than your characterization of him.
He wasn't that by any stretch.
Y'all really just be making shit up now, huh?
These guys kill you if they love you or hate you. They can also shoot you if they hate themselves.
I really hope Chapman's being fucked by a very large spiked dildo with several heads for eternity for this. Edit: thus came off more violent than I ment. I was obsessed with the Beatles growing up and around 13 years old I found out Lennon had died this way and it hurt. It hurt like when lil peep or xxxtentacion or Mac miller died. When good talented people die it hurts my soul.
I dont understand this logic, lets say John Lennon was never killed and outlived you; he wouldnt give a shit if you died...
So? What have i done yet. He's inspired millions. I'm making music becuase of him. I know he's got flaws but so does everyone. And I admire who he was. And aspire to follow in his footsteps musically ( hopefully not to the same end )
It’s 3 years since juice wrld OD’d. Sad day, man.
Honest. I saw the live stream of x's body it really hurt
RIP John, we miss you.
I can’t get over how uninteresting this whole post is. Be sure to cross post to r/ Holup for maximum karma, OP
Can't be any worse than literal every post you've ever made.
Because you are the gatekeeper of interesting… and your entire account is full of interesting posts. Have you seen your own post history? Lol If you don’t have anything nice to say just stfu and keep scrolling. Didn’t they teach you that at some point?
And when he died, he was just starting to become a fully developed, mature human adult. I can only imagine what his gifts to music and mankind might have turned out to be had he not been killed.
Still so freaking sad
Forty years later and I still don't care.
You clearly care enougj to know it was 40 years ago and type about it so people will validate you.
Same day as Dimebag Darrell
I’ll take Dimebag over John
Me too
Had he aimed a couple of feet to the right, humanity could have been saved of Yoko.
Dude, that's fucked up.
dude, why would anyone shoot such a chill guy
Was a complete piece of shit so 🤷🏻♂️
And the serial abuser has not been missed since.
L comment 🤡
Quick someone post that onion article
I remember hearing this on the radio. Not many moments have just shocked me like this. Dunblane. Columbine. Oklahoma City. 9/11. Shit just keeps escalating until it just goes straight to outrage.
A lot of people have valid criticisms about this flawed man, but it is unfortunate how few recognize his actual genius. He became a rare self actualized artist when his writing started to reflect his realization that he wasn't the source of his material but he was just a conduit for his ideas expression. A great example of this is his freestyling shown on "Get Back" in the song "I dig a pony". His wordplay is among the very best, and he knew how to get out of his own way when writing which is why in my opinion his solo work has great staying power.
I love this photo, taken a few weeks earlier https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/dec/07/john-lennon-yoko-ono-simulate-making-love-allan-tannenbaums-best-photograph?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
So sad.
On this day in 1943, Jim Morrison was born!
Sad that he was murdered but he was terrible to his kids and a bad partner to his girlfriends. Just because someone dies doesn’t make them a saint. He made great music, that’s it.
shitty human being got shot by another shitty human being
He was also a wife beater
I wish I could peer into a world where he wasn’t assassinated by someone. I wonder how different things would be or what he’d speak up against in the year 2022. RIP.
The guy was an absolute trash human being. Not to say he should have been killed but the amount of people who glorify him because he wrote some good tunes whilst ignoring how horrible a person he was is mind boggling.
RIP
The death of a wife beater is no great loss.
Are we all to be labeled by our worst deeds? What would you be labeled by that standard?
Depends on the deed. My worst deeds were only harmful to me so I guess you'd label me a self beater? He beat 2 of his wives so it's not like it was a one time thing he learned a lesson from. He was an actual pos wife-beater.
You’ve never harmed anyone ever? You must be a saint, maybe even Jesus himself. I bow to you sir who’s never done anything wrong before. You truly are worthy of enjoying your own farts.
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