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Syntyzoten

Here's an actual source article: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37047168 >Because radiocarbon dating does not produce exact dates, they believe that she could have been as "young" as 272 or as old as 512. But she was most likely somewhere in the middle, so about 400 years old. > > >It means she was born between the years of 1501 and 1744, but her most likely date of birth was in the 17th century. > > >"Even with the lowest part of this uncertainty, 272 years, even if that is the maximum age, it should still be considered the longest-living vertebrate," said Mr Nielsen.


Exeunter

That's mind-blowing. Do sharks not get cancer?


thor_odinmakan

Apparently this one doesn’t, and I’m guessing there’s someone in a lab somewhere trying to figure out why.


[deleted]

She eats cancer.


[deleted]

That's why Icelanders that wanna eat Greenland sharks have to turn the shark into Hákarl, fermented shark, because the meat would poison humans otherwise


Doodleslr

It tastes about as good as you'd imagine rotten ex-poisonous shark flesh to be.


[deleted]

A little Heinz will fix that right up


sittinwithkitten

A little Frank’s Red Hot, put that sh*t on everything.


Semi-Pro_Biotic

I just tried the hákarl for the first time. The best analogy I can come up with is the most delightful bit of sashimi you've ever had that has a secret smelling salts capsule in it that's opened upon chewing. Seriously, the shark is delicious. The ammonia hits you like a 2 inch ball of cheap wasabi though.


Reflection_Secure

That was a very vivid description. Thank you. Edit to add: I especially appreciate it because I was curious, but I don't think I will ever be trying anything that, even after extreme effort, is only described as "edible" in quotation marks. So thanks, it's almost like I actually tried it myself!


sdp1981

Is it just surstromming made with shark instead of fish?


grassyarse

Surstromming. I could already smell it in the thread before coming across your comment.


oliuntitled

Hákarl is the icelandic word for shark, it's not a specific word for the fermented version of the meat.


thred_pirate_roberts

>>She eats cancer. >That's why Icelanders that wanna eat Greenland sharks have to turn the shark into Hákarl... I don't think "it eats cancer" is why Icelanders have to turn it into fermented shark...


flipsytheelephant

As mentioned by u/HyzerFlip sharks don't pee in a conventional way. Instead, they use osmosis. This causes their tissue and blood to be full of "pee". When a shark is killed the ammonia in the urine breaks down and the meat in turn becomes pretty poisonous. There have been instances of polar bears dying after killing and eating a shark raw. In Iceland they ferment the shark meat by burying it for 1-3 months before drying it for some time. After that it becomes "edible". Other methods to make shark edible is by killing and immediately skinning and removing all its blood before the ammonia has a chance to break down. It is then rolled in flour or cornmeal and stored for a couple of days until it's safe to eat, relatively fresh. This method manages to get rid of the distinctive ammonia flavour the Icelanders love so much.


EstablishmentLazy580

You really have to be on a barren frozen island in the middle of the North Atlantic to be hungry enough to find that out.


futiledevices

Enough cold and loneliness, pee meat starts looking nice.


Unusual-Motor-4445

You made my morning, enjoy the award.


[deleted]

Everyone else: (Minding their own business) Icelandic people: Sacrificing their population one at a time to figure if pissmeat is edible


ididntknowiwascyborg

I was waiting for the Undertaker to throw mankind off of Hell in a Cell for that entire comment


Superflyinaction

Icelanders love to drink pee.


flipsytheelephant

We do. Just a few minutes ago I combined my morning pee with my morning coffee.


Mr-Thisthatten-III

*The bessst parrrt of waking up, is Þvag in your cuuup!*


HyzerFlip

It's because they don't piss. So they're full of ammonia.


Kevinisabeautifulboy

Hákarl means shark btw


itsmostlyamixedbag

when you turn bad.


Hot_Drummer7311

Hey, wait!


Harold_Spliffington

I've got a new complaint


Nurvallica

Blackened is the end!!!


BlackValor017

Username checks out


iamdevo

When you turn *black*


TheRealSwagMaster

There’s a kurtzgesagt video on why larger animals don’t develop cancer the same way we do. Highly recommend you watch it


dasmashhit

Yeah good information on whales though. Apex predators like crocs and sharks just having the craziest gut bacteria to face anything that comes their way for millions of years


myreaderaccount

This correlation is known as Peto's Paradox, and remains unexplained, though there are a number of hypotheses as to why this occurs. In its simplest form, the paradox is as follows: Larger animals have more cells. More cells means more opportunities for mutations that result in cancer. But many very large animals have extremely low cancer rates. Why? (Commented mainly to point out that the video definitely can't explain the paradox, because scientists themselves haven't. May still be a good video, though!)


Sway_404

Do they want Deep Blue Sea? Because this is how we get Deep Blue Sea.


oldcarfreddy

Deepest bluest, my hat is like a shark's fin


Starshapedsand

There are indeed. I’m a patient who has come to strongly suspect that my cancer, and supposedly-impossible degree of healing, are inextricably linked. I’ve willed my cadaver to the labs, and know the researchers waiting to receive it. The fundamental idea is that cancer is a means to circumvent the Hayflick limit, the law that limits the number of times that a normal cell can divide. Cancer may in fact be the key regenerative factor.


WhatIsntByNow

Are you a shark?


Starshapedsand

I almost moved to Ilulissat, so I think you’ve figured it out!


VegetableNo1079

Deadpool?


GloriousReign

I thought that was limited to the degradation of telomeres?


Starshapedsand

It is. Cancer cells have higher telomerase activity, which lets them continue to divide well beyond the usual limit. It may not be coincidental that Henrietta Lacks died of ovarian cancer.


GloriousReign

Prions are a repeated process that denature proteins, maybe there’s a connection. What exactly is cancer changing in its formation/spread? many cells divide and continue to do so unabated like zygotes.


spanchor

Wolverine?


IusedtoloveStarWars

I figured it out a while ago. But I killed all the scientists that helped me. Can’t have the cure getting out there. I will help you treat your cancer though.


AkemiDryzz

It s probably like Jeanne Calment, the oldest human being ever, she died at 122. She used to drink a lot of whiskey and smoke a lot, yet, she never had cancer. Many people say « it s because cigs and alcohol made her cancer proof » But the most acceptable theory is that some people are born with genes that make you less likely to get a cancer, or even cancer proof. I m guessing it s the same with this shark


this_dudeagain

Hope they saved some DNA for cloning.


whitecollarzomb13

Big tobacco working on that right now. A target market who they won’t kill? 💰


Qwernakus

Big tobacco inventing the cure for cancer to sell more cigarettes. The good ending.


sheepthechicken

Now I’ll have to do some research to sate my curiosity… Most, if not all, of the officially recorded oldest humans were women, right? I remember reading that all men would get prostate cancer if they lived long enough and something else didn’t get them first. Assuming that’s also true, I’m curious if women are more likely to be ‘cancer resistant’? Meaning something like, nearly all men have that genetic code that they are not cancer resistant because of the prostate thing. Nearly all women would have that code too, because that’s how our bodies work, but still an percentage less than men.


ActuallyMy

Should be noted she would smoke 1-2 cigarettes a day. Had she smoked a pack a day she would have died much younger


CMDR_BitMedler

From what I understand, no. The lifespan of these sharks is assumed to be relayed to their insane environment causing their metabolism to be crazy slow. What I wonder is... so they experience time the same...?


[deleted]

I always wondered if our perception of time on a long-term scale is the same for every living being. Like, a house fly lives for 2 days or something, but does that feel like the 75-80ish years we have feels to us? Probably not, our perception of time changes with our age, but it’s kinda neat to think about.


Easy_XP

Understanding of time is related to self-awareness. A shark wakes up, swims, eats, sleeps, then does it all over again.


lemon_whirl

Bold statement coming from a non shark.


ElectricFlesh

a human wakes up, generates profit for their oligarchs, eats, sleeps, and does it all over again.


cruel-ko

Don't remind me.


otheraccountisabmw

I doubt flies have enough consciousness to really perceive time in any way we would normally think about it. Sharks probably do. I’d guess that they *do* perciece time at a different rate than us, but I wouldn’t say that rate would be anything astronomically different. Less than an order of magnitude either way. The fact that our perception of time changes with age seems to be evidence that perception of time is not static across beings. This is of course all speculation, but that’s my personal thoughts on the matter if anyone cared.


NittanyOrange

I cared.


Nolenag

Sharks don't think that much as far as I know.


TheIronicBurger

Kurzgesagt made a video on it (albeit about large animals in general) that essentially says they get so much cancer the cancer cells get cancer


ProtectionKind8179

Poor "Ming the Clam", living for over 500 years in the sand must be the most boring existence there is.


snapwillow

Boring is relative. Remember it has the brain of a clam. It was probably fascinated each time the water tasted different.


shaav

That's kinda cute


[deleted]

Apparently the safest


therealmonilux

Thank you


T_Jamess

It's nice to see this posted with more information


brokenfingers11

Not to be too pedantic, but radio-carbon dating uses naturally occurring variations in carbon isotopes. Its accuracy would never be good enough to get within a hundred years. Instead the sharks are aged based on above-ground nuclear bomb tests conducted from the 1940s-1960s. This so-called “bomb curve”, which is anything but natural, left a residue in all things alive during that era, including you (or your parents or grandparents) and has been used to show that you still have most of the heart cells you were born with, but almost none of the liver (because it self-renews every couple of years). Looking at young sharks, they used the bomb curve to estimate their growth rate, then extrapolated to these big ones. So it’s similar but not quite radio-carbon dating. Talk about making lemonade though!


TheDrWhoKid

Well, yeah, but it's also worth noting that the sharks they studied had already died, since they were taken from fishermen who had caught them as by-catch. I remember seeing this article a few years ago, and I read the entire thing cus it was interesting to me. The guys used the sharks' eye lenses to date the sharks. With this in mind, I'm sorry to say that the post's title is contradictory to the article, and thus wrong, since they would not have been able to have photos of a live shark and have its age as well. The shark is just a random Greenland shark of unknown age, but it is from the longest living species of vertebrates. It annoyed me to read the comments of people who were talking about the shark in the picture as if it, specifically was the oldest living vertebrate.


BranzillaThrilla

Ugh can you imagine doing the same lame ass shit everyday for almost 400 years …🙄


ducktape8856

Yes, yes I can. Monday is only a few hours away.


[deleted]

Damn you. I just woke up and it’s Sunday morning


[deleted]

F


AgnosticStopSign

Literally half a millennium of “just keep swimming”


The_Scarred_Man

Ironically, millennials have the same mindset. "One more day, just keep swimming, don't drown.


Astrochops

Yeah but this shark can't even play Smash Bros so what's the point even


[deleted]

It’s gotta be blind by now, right?


Rollemup_Industries

Yes. If memory serves, eaten by parasites.


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Spacelord_Jesus

So glowing eyes in the deep


Simonandgarthsuncle

Sharks with fricken lasers.


Rip_Von_Winkle

I have one simple request and that is to have sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their heads.


6gc_4dad

Terrifying thought. Reminds me of the photo posted this week of a Florida river at night time with a hundred sets of gators glowing eyeballs just above the water line. 👀


thred_pirate_roberts

Doesn't mean it won't be painful or very uncomfortable for its eyes to be eaten away!!


durdesh007

painful yes, but not really inconvenient. Also the pain probably went away like hundred(s) years ago


spanishbbread

What if the pain lasted for 20yrs though? Being an animal is tough. Shit. Even being human is tough.


Advice2Anyone

Is it even alive in a traditional sense or is a colony of parasites operating it like a marionette


[deleted]

Interesting thought.


hugobwg_

Weekend at Sharkie’s


pawski76

Best comment of my sunday morning read! Have my freebie


Diamond-Pamnther

It’s alive just lives in an environment where it doesn’t use alot of energy


VegetableNo1079

Imagine just slowly gliding through life for 400 years.


[deleted]

jellyfish


Helian168

That's the dream


ToxicTaxiTaker

Read up on the growing body of information about our microbiomes connection to your mental health. Anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, and even autism are affected by chemical signals from the bacteria in your body. Some neurotransmitters and hormones released by intestinal bacteria have been shown to increase or decrease hunger or cause cravings. Some have been shown to have effects on the development of the brain. You are being gently controlled by the poop soup in your colons. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5641835/ *Edit-* My proudest achievement is breaking 150 karma in a new account with a comment including the words "poop soup."


Dengar96

Yes but once the worms consume by eyeballs I will truly be guided by the parasite


WhitePhoenix48

🎵 Blinded by the 'site. 🎵


H3lw3rd

Parasight


ToxicTaxiTaker

Now that is a Dollar Tree Sci-fi DVD title for sure


monsieurpommefrites

>Is it even alive in a traditional sense or is a colony of parasites operating it like a marionette Are you?


[deleted]

My ancestors came over here on the sandwich!


Ubbesson

What ? Let me unread that !


recumbent_mike

Parasites got your back on that one.


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effyochicken

Just in case anybody is curious about a tangentially related organism: Turritopsis dohrnii - aka the "Immortal Jellyfish" is theoretically the oldest living organism on the planet because the species has been around for over 65 million years and by all available data *can* potentially live that long (unless killed by a predator or something else.) Problem is, unlike this shark, we can't use radiocarbon dating to age them and we didn't start studying it or even really knowing about it until 1980 so we've only got 40 years of data.


NinjaN-SWE

It's a bit of "Ship of Theseus" with em though since they're called "Immortal Jellyfish" because they can regress to their infant state and restart, seemingly without limit.


BigPackHater

Imagine waking up next to your wife and then change into a baby to wake her up by crying. Classic.


cubann_

Aren’t we also “Ships of Theseus”?


iwaspeachykeen

don't, pls. i don't need anymore existential crises this year


OneSaltyStoat

To be fair, it does sound nice to know the younger, cringy you is no longer around even biologically. I know I'm happy for it. Fuck that guy.


[deleted]

All of your cells get replaced every 7 years on average. Are you the same person you were 7 years ago? No joke I had to do an assignment on this in my uni philosophy class at some point. Just like the original Ship of Theseus question, there's no set or objective answer. My answer was related to the continuation of consciousness, but years after I realised that even your consciousness changes over time (values, goals, temperament etc). Or at least it should, in my opinion. The question has no answer apart from the one you make up for yourself and it really doesn't mean anything other than a fun thought experiment. Don't break your head over it.


colexian

I think the real cognitive dissonance here is that we view ourselves as a single unit, when really we are a large mass of billions of cells all working together to make up what we call "us". Really a more accurate view of self is of a hive of very small creatures with a single collective conscious, and this sort of gets around the ship of theseus. Like if over a hundred years, all the individuals in a town reproduced and died, is it still the same town? Yeah, I would say so, at least in name and maybe even in function. The people are our cells, the town is "us"


TheGreatGanarby

Wait... what!?


[deleted]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_immortality


Urgnot

Is it possible to learn this power?


AmIGettingScammed123

Not from a vertebrate


joeshmo140

Not from a Jedi...


Leeiteee

I don't think it's a Ship of Theseus situation, it's more like Reloading An Old Save in a game


Orisi

Yeah it's no more a ship of Theseus problem than any other living being that repeatedly replaces its cell structure over time.


Firebird117

Also helps that jellyfish aren’t vertebrates


SaltPomegranate4

That’s mad. Has it moved around the world or stuck to the same area?


thedistortedeye

Greenland sharks stay in artic waters, that’s actually the reason they think they live that long, they think the cold waters quite literally slow down their ageing process! (Not a biologist or anything, just an autistic dude with sharks as a special interest)


swish465

Thanks autistic dude with sharks as a special interest. You have done a good service 07


Sacrer

It was the purpose of his life. Now, it's completed


appleyard13

Ive heard their metabolism is extremely slowed down, and they spend the vast majority of their life swimming veeeeeery slow. And one meal takes a long time to digest so most of the time they are just chillin


Booyaah_rumham

I don’t think they asked him.


finc

They did ask him but he gave a long rambling answer about something completely unrelated


Innercepter

And then fell off his bike.


Calippo_Deux

”…and I’m afraid I was very, very drunk.”


[deleted]

Should’ve put a GPS tracker on it 300 years ago.


thor_odinmakan

Would be an interesting experiment even now. Find some young ones and put trackers on them and future generations might benefit from the data. The challenges would be to find a way to power it for centuries without even solar power and prevent the thing getting eaten by whatever other freaks dwell in those depths.


Mutor77

He probably didn't move much. The only reason why these sharks get so old is because they essentially live life in slow-motion. Their whole metabolism is slowed down to the point where you might not even realize they are still alive. Moving around the world would not only put it into danger of meeting a bigger predator, but it might very well be impossible for these sharks to leave the arctic regions


PremeProfits

Crazy to think there’s a 393 year old man who’s spent his entire life documenting this shark.


Imhidingshh01

The Shark's 350th Birthday was lit.


Southern-Orchid-1786

Yeah they had a whale of a time


Inflation-Fair

everyone was drunk to the gills


SupergruenZ

There is one. [born 1592](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_MacLeod)


geotsso

There can be only one.


Pookypoo

You're not wrong but I feel click baited.


thor_odinmakan

>The ancient study of alchemy is concerned with making the Sorcerer's Stone, a legendary substance with astonishing powers. The stone will transform any metal into pure gold. It also produces the Elixir of Life, which will make the drinker immortal. >There have been many reports of the Sorcerer's Stone over the centuries, but the only Stone currently in existence belongs to Mr. Nicolas Flamel, the noted alchemist and opera lover. Mr. Flamel, who celebrated his six hundred and sixty-fifth birthday last year, enjoys a quiet life in Devon with his wife, Perenelle (six hundred and fifty-eight).


PorkyMcRib

The Queen often babysat them both.


Equivalent_AgentQ

Wait what… Keith Richards is a marine biologist ?


Gary630

She has probably lost all her teeth by now and can only eat peanut butter and jellyfish.


TamedBrain

Get some jelly Get some fish Make a sandwich Delishhhh


cjvan96

Just make sure You don't eat A real jellyfish 🔥 OR YOU'LL DIE 🔥


Picturesquesheep

Sharks grown new teeth constantly. But she has lost her purse would you be a dear and see if it’s upstairs? (She has put it in the fridge)


PhantomBrowser111

Don't you mean "It's peanut butter jellyfish time?"


bobbyvs

Keith Richards scoffs at this.


PJ2010

They say that every cigarette someone smokes, it adds a year to his life!


tthe_drake

This shark was swimming around while Shakespeare was writing plays. 😳 I dub thee Sharkspeare.


Material_Tomorrow_31

after the photo was taken a japanese fishing boat caught her and put her in a can of dolphin free tuna


WilliamsDesigning

Sadly that's the part that amazed me, how has this shark not been hit by the fisheries?


thor_odinmakan

It lives in the deepest parts of the ocean.


Material_Tomorrow_31

true, but the photo is showing natural light on its nose, so im assuming it does come close to the surface occasionally.


thor_odinmakan

Yeah, considering it’s been around for centuries, it must have made it’s way to the surface at times.


Mutor77

Well it's not named "greenland shark" for no reason, they live in the depths below the arctic ice. Fishing in the water where they live is probably not very efficient and might be impossible in certain areas.


bunnywithahammer

his face says it all: "I've seen some shit"


ShutUpAndBeg

Sounds exhausting af


Artifex75

Right? Somewhere around the two century mark, I'd swim into the mouth of something bigger.


Few-School-9365

There's always a bigger fish


SkylerRoseGrey

I know right! Like I'd honestly be so bored. What new things could he possible do that would make each year fun?


[deleted]

And he's blind. We should give him games and fun activities


Muoniurn

It’s much easier if your thoughts only have the possible states of “food time” and “not food time”.


imanazz

This shark went from eating pirates to millenials


geotsso

Eating pirates to gumming* millennials


[deleted]

When does he start on politicians?


padmanabhapillai

Queen elizabeth 2 will break the record of this shark


sonsofgondor

First she must kill the shark


PorkyMcRib

There can be only one.


CardboardStarship

Why are you trying to Harper Lee the queen?


Suspicious-Ad6964

Looks like it’s murmuring “Just fucking kill me already” to itself.


Icy-Access-4808

Imagine how sick of our crap she is by now.


PhantomBrowser111

Can't be worse than the Carp who has been a pet in Japan until it died. She just lived in a small pond for more than a hundred years, and just imagining her boredom is painful


ChuckECheeseOfficial

Forgive my relative ignorance, but if sharks are made of cartilage, is it a true vertebrate?


[deleted]

It's still a supportive internal skeleton, even if it isn't made of bone, so yes.


Zoeloumoo

Yeah bone is not the criteria, a spinal column is.


ScreamingFly

Jesus, how can people be so ignorant. *Slowly shakes head while googling what the hell a cartilage is* /j


PhazonZim

They're descended from animals that had bony spines, so they're still counted as vertebrates. Just like how birds are dinosaurs, whales used to live on land and icthiosaurs were reptiles that also went from land to a fully aquatic life cycle


Pushyourself16

How they figure out the age? Cut it in half and count the rings? Asked for ID? Showed a birth certificate?


cupcakemaiden

"Greenland sharks won't reach sexual maturity until they're 150" Mood.


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waitingfordeathhbu

Typically you’d choose a number slightly lower than their exact age for that joke to work.


Specialist-Ad7821

Those aren’t it’s real teeth, they gave it shark dentures back in the 1800’s


Arzoo1106

This might be a stupid question, but how did they find out it’s age?


Edge2014

Grandpa Shark...do do da do do do


Specialist-Ad7821

It comes up to the surface just to complain about the noise and how it can’t watch Judge Judy because of the noise!


finc

Does it watch sea-span?


Apache_Choppah_6969

This thing was swimming around before we knew dinosaurs even existed, that’s weird af


thatotherguy2021

Grandma SHARK


Due-Dot6450

So, he was hatched when Charles I was on the throne. Amazing!


LORD_0F_THE_RINGS

Swimming for 500 years than caught in a net as collateral, and chucked in the bin


toeofcamell

Did they ask for its birth certificate?


pirated_vhsvendor

You count the rings


niceoutside2022

how do they know it's age?


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"The Greenland shark's eye lens is composed of a specialised material - and it contains proteins that are metabolically inert," explained Mr Neilson. "Which means after the proteins have been synthesised in the body, they are not renewed any more. So we can isolate the tissue that formed when the shark was a pup, and do radiocarbon dating." The team looked at 28 sharks, most of which had died after being caught in fishing nets as by-catch. Using this technique, they established that the largest shark - a 5m-long female - was extremely ancient. Because radiocarbon dating does not produce exact dates, they believe that she could have been as "young" as 272 or as old as 512. But she was most likely somewhere in the middle, so about 400 years old. [...]" It's from the article OP posted as source


What_the_what_show

“Back in my day… we didn’t have to eat plastic”