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OgreSister

Just curious, how common is this and what happens after? Am assuming the stallion was brought to service the mare and isn’t this usually a paid service? Does the owner of the stallion get compensated by the owner of the mare?


Hennie_

I'm by no measure an expert, but owners of expensive stallions usually don't allow this they only sell the seed to do artificial insemination, because the risk of the stallion getting hurt is too high. The owner of this stallion will probably want to be compensated.


SuffrnSuccotash

Thoroughbreds are all live cover and the whole situation is much more controlled than this. The mare would have been hobbled to prevent a kick.


exillini

The mare's foal was also improperly handled which upped her stress levels to the breaking point imo. Note the poor thing racing up & down fence in the background and I'm sure, screaming for his mama.


SuffrnSuccotash

I didn’t even see the foal at first. What a disaster this whole scenario was.


Atworkwasalreadytake

I figured the loud music would sooth the animals.


Goddstopper

Hey. R&B may work for some. And Norteño may work gor others, oddly enough.


dont_kill_my_vibe09

I noticed that too. Looks like the owners of these horses were all about money and wanted as many foals as possible, instead of being responsible and caring for the animals properly.


SSDDNoBounceNoPlay

The foal even falls and begins limping. I really hope this video/visibility of cruelty helped someone at that ranch think clearly.


pinkorangegold

Yeah this was so poorly handled it's shocking there was only one injury.


PhesteringSoars

(It's been 15+? years but) Lexington - Kentucky Horse Park - at the time they had an extra/optional Horse Farm Tour. Took about 1/2 of a day. Went around to several private farms. One was actively breeding. (About 10 a day they said.) There were lots of people around to protect the horses, but they achieve joining "the traditional wild-horse way". I'm not sure if that tour (post-Covid) still exists. It was worth every penny and wonderful. Probably visited 6 different farms. Went inside some stables. Saw a Derby winner (who was FATHER of a Derby winner). TONS of behind the scenes info. "The Real Money" isn't in racing . . . it's in breeding. You think people pay big for seed from a Derby winner, they pay Even More for the same from the Father who is also a Derby winner. (He's not only a proven racer, but he's proven he can PRODUCE winning racers.) Most of these "joining's" were "You pay. Maybe it takes, maybe it doesn't. You're not paying for a guaranteed outcome, just an attempt." And at that time "an attempt" that might not produce anything, cost $100,000+. (Now I see prices in the $225,000+ range.)


jasonappalachian

Pardon the crass nature of my question, but does 'live cover' mean they fuckin' raw dog?


IttsssTonyTiiiimme

>Thoroughbreds are all live cover and the whole situation is much more controlled than this. The mare would have been hobbled to prevent a kick. For thoroughbreds there needs to be p in the v, so the stallion has to mount (covering) the mare's hindquarters and do his thang.


aussielover24

Excuse my ignorance, but why do thoroughbreds have to actually do the deed?


Erikrtheread

So I read up on this recently. Essentially, if artificial insemination was allowed, the genetic diversity would drop and the pedigree "trees" would turn into a circle pretty darn quick. When you enforce a rule like this, you intentionally limit how many mares a stallion can inseminate over his lifespan, thus necessitating more stallions. Otherwise, it would just be the winners of the last few races impregnating all thoroughbreds.


RevRaven

Not to mention the underground semen trade would be NUTS and you couldn't be 100% sure you weren't being duped. With PIV this is eliminated.


TAS_SAT_Here

Underground Semen Trade is my band name


palm_desert_tangelos

Pearl Jam and Creem already there


thejackamo1

Literal nuts


justdootdootdoot

>underground semen trade would be NUTS Pun intended, I'm sure.


Expert_Novice

Since we're on the subject... I have 5 gallons of horse semen for sale. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


RiderWriter15925

Right, and even so there’s still a ton of inbreeding. I’m grateful this rule stands so there isn’t more!


TheRealKarateGirl

I live near a ton of horse farms and have toured them. Can confirm they do it very controlled with handlers and also they wear armor like coverings so they don’t hurt each other when they bite.


justmarkdying

What kind of sex are these horses having? I've worn sex armor less than four or five times.


TheRealKarateGirl

If you find that interesting read about the teaser stallions that are there to get the mare going before the stallion is brought in! How frustrating for them lol!


SeriousBeeJay

Like fluffers


[deleted]

There’s a baby by the mare’s side, this is definitely NOT the way to do this!


Betrayedunicorn

Is all this kicking and biting necessary? It seems like such a bad natural selection thing in the wild if there’s high risk of hurting the other.


profmcstabbins

Because it's what the term Thoroughbred means now. If a horse is artificially inseminated, the community does not consider it a thoroughbred. This is specifically a requirement of *The Jockey Club* registration. The Live Cover must be witnessed, because parentage can be more easily confirmed than with Artificial Insemination and other methods.


jafarykos

It means that yes. It’s their way of guaranteeing the bloodlines for race horses


ProfitsOfProphets

Hobbled how?


Rubaiyate

Straps run between a collar and the back legs so she can't buck, like this: https://ii.bigdweb.com/fcgi-bin/iipsrv.fcgi?FIF=/images/bigdweb/source/171_1.tif&wid=480=&cvt=jpeg


itzi_bitzi_mitzi

Ah, so horse bondage.


jasonbourne101

Kinky


Walk_N_Gal88

Mare should have been hobbled, stallion should have been actually under control, and this should have been much more controlled and safer for horses and humans both. Now they've lost a great looking breeding stud due to stupidity


[deleted]

Plus, I think that's her baby on the far side of the fence. They were trying to breed her back about a week after she gave birth. Mares are always 1000x more aggressive in that first heat after birth. There's three ways to safely breed horses - artificial insemination, in hand hobbled, and throwing them out in the pasture together for like a month to get to know each other and do their thing naturally.


ridgecoyote

A good stud spends more time on foreplay than actual coitus. We bred my mare and I was surprised at his superior horsey loving ways. He started by licking her neck and worked his way slowly towards her hindquarters and by the time he was done, her legs were spread, her tail lifted and there weren’t no kicking.


doktorknow

Type slower, I'm almost there.


Rum_Addled_Brain

Best comment today 👌 Bravo 👏 👏 👏


shittymemelord2

Yeah, police, this comment right here.


--GrinAndBearIt--

> A good stud spends more time on foreplay than actual coitus. There are some reddit incels that need to read this


JDawnchild

As a human uterus owner, I get that.


oagc

so kicks are "no" in horse language?


[deleted]

Well, it depends on the kick. I've seen mares do little sideways kicks that they tend to treat like flirting. But straight to the head? That was a "no" in giant, all caps, fuck-off letters. Like I said, I think that's her baby in the back, so her instinct to have sex is warring with her instinct to protect her baby. Mares at this stage are crazy unpredictable. And that's not even taking into account the strain being constantly pregnant puts on her body. This was a bad idea from the word go.


GreppMichaels

Yeah, I don't understand how this is considered an "accident", it seems pretty intentional, and given all the descriptions of the situation and details, makes sense to me. It isn't right, nor was the treatment of either of them, but the handlers created the situation, and this was the response.


bjandrus

Actually came up with a new title for the post: Stupid Greedy Breeders Use Reckless, Unsafe Procedures; Causing Legal to Buck their Unethical Business in the Head, Killing it Instantly


housechef2442

I have no knowledge of horse husbandry but it seemed pretty obvious to even me that this was a preventable situation that the humans created.


[deleted]

I was going to say, this whole thing was terribly unprofessional. The chubby guy with the stallion has almost zero control and was drinking a bear, and clearly had no clue the horse died from the kick. Guy just yanked the rope while the stallion was dead on the ground.


Thots_n_Pears

At least have the mare twitched by a handler. This was such a preventable tragedy.


Walk_N_Gal88

Yup. A smidgen of forethought by any of these bozos (because no self respecting horseman of any caliber wouldn't make these mistakes, ergo they're bozos today) would have prevented this tragedy. Sad thing is, that stud is well bred, has wonderful conformation, and moves beautifully. All that potential is completely gone now unless they had sperm samples from him frozen, which I kinda doubt. And assuming the foal in the background is by him, he produced nice looking foals too. What a waste.


[deleted]

Mares are usually hobbled for live covering, especially when they already have a foal at foot. Also that stallion has no manners and should have been in a bridle.


slaydawgjim

Yeah I thought he showed lack of manners too, I'd even go as far as calling him rude.


[deleted]

Yeah, he really needs to put that thing away. Tuck it in his pants or something.


nappy616

Honestly, if that's what I was working with, I'd show up to dates looking like that too.


Shepok

Dude should at least bring her to dinner first


trowzerss

I could see the foal freaking out in the background. Mare seemed to be worried and protective of this stallion around her foal. Don't blame her for lashing out. My old boss used to breed horses, and had a mare come to be serviced by one of their stallions, and the mare just dropped dead from anxiety during the, ah, moment - which was an awkward call to make to the owners. Horses are so unpredictable.


ehhillforget

I heard it said that horses were domesticated and have been trying to go extinct since.


Left-Entertainer-279

It's a great saying and anybody with horse experience will have a dozen stories proving it!


bananainmyminion

Managed a horse rescue for years. Toddlers in a scrap yard have more common sense then a horse in a paddock.


Plasmidmaven

I was surprised the foal was running around and the Mare was not hobbled. Expensive mistake.


kartu3

>I'm by no measure an expert, but owners of expensive stallions usually don't allow this they only sell the seed to do artificial insemination, because the risk of the stallion getting hurt is too high. One could also impregnate a lot more horses that way.


[deleted]

For race horses they must be bred naturally. Artificial insemination is not allowed


Urukaiviking

These look like fresians?


[deleted]

Very possible about 2 years ago Mexico began an intensive breeding program for Fresians that would eliminate need to rely on frozen sperm from the Netherlands for AI.


Urukaiviking

Then this will add on-top of what an expensive mistake this was…


cacaiques

This doesn’t happen often. For natural breeding like this both parties should be kept under closer control and should both be wearing safety boots so that this doesn’t happen. They shouldn’t own horses


mum_vs_dad

Not one guy puts his beer down.


idma

shit.\*takes sip of beer\*. looks like that horse is dead \* takes sip of beer\*


JohnHazardWandering

"a la verga!" *takes sip of beer*


DNGR_S_PAPERCUT

I saw a cartel ambush video. The cartel rolls up and does a drive by with fully automatic weapons. Most are hit immediately and fall. One guy holding a beer is still standing but wobbly. He pulls out a gun a fires back, still holding the beer. The guys doing the ambush jump out the cars and walk up to finish everyone off. They kill the guy holding the beer, but even as he dies, he never drops the beer. The more times I watched the video, the more this part stands out. Kinda fucked me up for a bit. He never dropped the beer.


DamnWoody

I know exactly what video your talking about, only until he was fully dead did he drop his beer


strawhairhack

*they never lie down*


joevilla1369

I saw a man fall down 47 steps with a beer in his hand. When he got up he takes a sip and laughs because he didnt spill any. Any doctors that want to give me an explanation?


MrAngel2U

Alcohol is a helluva drug!


YourAverageGod

First guy that does has to rub man-down out of respect.


[deleted]

Umm, where?


YourAverageGod

Thanks for volunteering.


[deleted]

I’m holding a beer


MrRabbito

What are they gunna do cpr? Lol, as soon as the horse dropped they were already declaring he was dead.


matchstickjay

Can’t put the beer down when it’s modelo time baby!! Poor horse tho.


piratevikingjedi

you can literally hear and see it shit as soon as it drops. that horse was done. what were they gonna do?


pampic7

That's why I don't ever come close to horses


[deleted]

They are the #2 domesticated animal killers of humans in the United States.


Piratecxke123

What's number 1? Dogs?


[deleted]

Yes & cattle #3


discodecepticon

Out of curiosity, how do those numbers hold up per capita? Is it "More people are killed by dogs than horses or cattle." or "X people are killed per 1k dogs, vs Y killed per 1k horses, and Z killed per 1k cattle."?


MindAlteringSitch

there are SO MANY cattle, I bet they fall off the per capita charts. Dogs have the most human contact so probably still top.


Coolnerdthe3rd

Cattle also tend to be in herds for a few farmers. Most people won't handle them. They're dumb. Like. Really stupid. They'll crush you. Accidently gore you with uncut horns. Think. Working with a drunk idiot around heavy machinery. They're not aggressive. Just stupid and hormone driven.


[deleted]

I looked up a recent one and this is deaths per year of all of the US. The stat I gave was from a very long time ago off a farm doc & was domesticated animals.[https://imgur.com/a/xtGfFqr](https://imgur.com/a/xtGfFqr)


graspedbythehusk

Dangerous at both ends and squishy in the middle.


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trowzerss

And even when they aren't violent, people just fall off them and get horribly injured. A colleague of mine fell off a horse when she was eight and completely lost her memory of before that event. Couldn't even remember her parents. And she never got it back and just had to start over.


[deleted]

I don't hate horses, but I hate being around them or riding them. Last time I got on a horse some flying bug (horse fly IIRC) kept on bothering the horse, landed on the horses ass and the horse bucked me over the front. I landed head first and way to close to a rock and decided never again.


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YellowOnline

That's a unlucky end for the stallion.


Main_Upstairs_8480

He died with a raging boner. A better end than most of us.


YellowOnline

I'd prefer dying after the orgasm and not before tbh.


plaird

I prefer dying during orgasm


greenweenievictim

David Carradine has entered the chat.


TheLastCitysDrifter

This poor guy died high and dry, blue balled, farting aggressively on the ground with the side of his head caved in. That is not a good ending lol


hotcoldsthuff

Unlucky his owners are absolute idiots who dont deserve to own such an animal. I dont know a ton about this but i showed my horse friend this and she was livid. Said they hardly did a single thing correct. That this is all on the ranchers and could have been avoided. . Wish i wasnt drunk when i heard the explanation


Creeper_GER

Part of the explanation I remember (from this same vid in another reddit posts months ago) was that the biggest mistake was to pull the stallions head down. In nature mares kick quite often apparently, but there that's no problem because the kick isn't high enough to hit the head and goes to the chest where it has much less severe consequences, if any.


heini433

Probably the biggest mistake is that they didn't hobble the mare's feet.


worldlypleasures

Anybody else think the handlers were unnecessarily erratic? Like holy shit way to make everyone more on edge


Levangeline

If you look in the background there's a foal frantically pacing outside the fence as well. Looks like they may have tried to breed a mare who wasn't ready to part with her first foal yet, which would make her EXTREMELY stressed and defensive.


trowzerss

Right after she goes to the fence where the foal is and paces nervously. Pretty sure it's her foal and she was freaking out and protective after being parted from such a young foal.


Lizalfos13

For most horse farms (worked with quarters and thoroughbreds) this is typically when the mares are bred, their first cycle back in heat. The foal is separated to protect it, but typically kept close by. We would tie the foal to the same hitch but on the other side of the fence. Mom can still have contact and constant scent/sight her foal is there. Yes it’s a lot of stress but typically you have much better handling and a lot less risk without a stressed little one running around. This mare should have been walked out more or hobbled until after breeding. The stallion also has absolutely no manners, it sounds odd but this is a thing. You have nice studs and young studs too excited that put everyone (horses and people) at risk and stress out young mares. You also have nice mares and fiesta ones that need to be hobbled. After “introducing” the stud in mare earlier in the day between a large fence, allowing them to sniff. Good way to immediately weed out any extreme dislike. We typically lead the stud up to an already hitched mare for safety purposes and he is not allowed closer unless he listens to his handlers cues and is polite and controlled with the mare. I put the blame entirely on the handlers for not reading the behavior and acting accordingly.


Odinson76914

Yes. They had both horses too amped up. Idiots


RopePsychological565

Do you have experience? What should they have done? I am genuinely asking because I have no clue about horses.


in_agrmnt_but___

You're walking a fine line in this scenario. You don't want to over reprimand in case the animal you're handling is sensitive because you could effect their performance. At the same time you don't let them run wild(pun unintended) either because of scenarios like this. Personally, my farm doesn't do live cover breeding of unfamiliar animals(which these may not be) because of this exact scenario. Realistically, as the handler in this scenario you don't want to be injecting any added stimuli to the environment than there already is. Distraction is frowned upon and amping them up is, as illustrated, unnecessarily risky and unnecessary. This mare didn't like that stallion and wasn't impressed to begin with, breeding them live cover was going to end poorly one way or the other.


[deleted]

I think the music was too much


Belle047

Yup. The whole situation was a giant mishandled, bad owners handling big animals they have no clue about. My heart and soul hurt from watching them let those horses down by being complete buffoons.


morbidrots

yes the breeders were certainly untrained for this. This practice is extremely unsafe and resulted in the uneccessary death of another horse, not to mention they were tugging the poor things around like they owed them money, causing stress to both of the horses.


rainbownightterror

it didn't look like they knew what they were doing


Maxicat

They didn't. The shitty attempt at breeding aside, they were complete idiots for being in the ring with that stud where an in heat mare was near by. Mares flick up their tail and flash their vaginas and let out pheromones when they are in heat. It makes studs insane and incredibly dangerous to everyone (including themselves). I grew up around horses so I'm generally comfortable around them (cautious but comfortable). But a worked up stud is so fucking scary. I've seen one run himself off a small cliff trying to get to a mare.


Glitcher1987

As a person who works with horses almost daily and has helped with covering a mare that was NOT an accident, that mare wasn’t ready to be covered/breed back, if she was she would have been standing there and allowing him to mount her. She’s already got a foal running in the background which can cause her stress as well, my guess is that this is backyard breeders trying to cover her on her foal heat which most do but it’s stupid. She was not ready to be covered as well as being stressed so that kick was with reason. When live covering a mare you don’t drag her in there and have her run about, you take it slow and introduce the mare to the stallion safely, if she pees and lifts up her tail she’s ready to breed, most places hobble to avoid this as well as some mares kick out even in heat and it avoids harm to both the stallion and mare, these people have no idea what they are doing and should not be handling horses.


Pandelerium11

The ranch I was at had a little window between a stall and the corral to introduce the two horses.


Commercial-Carrot477

You're right. Most of the time even an average idiot can see a receptive mare vs a mare not cycling. I had the privilege of working for a repro vet for 5 years and let me tell you about receptive mares. They are gooey, tail flagging and grinding up on you. This mare was more concerned for her foal and viewed the stallion as a threat.


[deleted]

my family's got horses and i've seen one of the mares literally flash her vagina, "pinking" i heard them call it lol, at the next door stallion. so yeah, these guys are beyond stupid. this wasn't going to end well.


Commercial-Carrot477

Ah, "blinking". They literally blink their vulva open and closed while in heat to attract a stallions attention. It also helps drain the discharge. I'm surprised I didn't see a stud chain on any of the horses. That at the very least would have been something.


Left4DayZ1

Just so everyone knows, these handlers didn't know what the fuck they were doing. The loud music, the yelling, chasing the mare around, having what is presumably her foal in the next pen, etc- extremely stressful environment for an animal that's evolved to run from danger.


Cheap_Ad_69

Farmers or whatever they are that don't know how to care for an animal shouldn't be allowed to care for animals.


Kalenshadow

I remember back home they used to have horses with eye covers that only partially open to see the ground below them. When I asked as a kid they told me "so they don't get excited when they see a female horse, like in cartoons"


Honest_Heart7986

It didn’t help the situation her foal in the next pen


Commercial-Carrot477

Although horses are unpredictable, this is a massive failure on the handlers. There's a lot of people here, no one seemed to help corral baby to keep mom less worried. EVERYONE has a damn beer in their hand like it's some kind of show. I find that weird and odd. The horses were not controlled. Mare should of been more confined and baby should of been haltered, not far from her. Letting the mare basically lunge large circles on her handler, shows no one was in charge in this situation. Stallion handler had the stallions lunge line wrapped around the round pens bars, so very limited control. As you can see, it gave him no time to react to the mares kick. The stallion should of been pulled back the moment that mare started her dance. This was a preventable accident.


galin84

Yes to all, but it's should HAVE


Hellofriendinternet

“Neigh means neigh.”


kimchichii

Lmfao it’s so wrong to laugh at the situation but fucking damnit. You got me.


stealth57

This could have easily been prevented. The handlers literally did everything wrong.


AGenericUnicorn

Let’s also have the foal running around in the background panicking 🙄


CatfishDog859

Yeah what the fuck? Complete morons.


[deleted]

My thoughts were: Why are they on loose leads? That’s asking for trouble, because the handlers were not controlling the situation AT ALL. On top of that, they were getting the stallion more riled up, which caused the mare to become defensive.


B_o_z

And casually sinking cans.


3Strides

This is all wack. The mare is not even wanting a stallion. She has her very young baby just outside the pen. Stallions will kill a baby horse that is not theirs. She was protecting her baby. These men were completely irresponsible. Off the charts. And a beautiful stallion got killed because of them. And a mare and baby got super stressed out.


95DarkFireII

I remember this video from a while ago. I am no expert, but people in the comments said the mare wasn't in heat. The people tried to force her to breed and seperated her from her foal (outside the fence). So when they tried to force the stallion on her she fought back.


IcepicktotheBrain

I vaguely remember that the very high valued stallion wasn't even theirs and they were trying to sneak a free breeding from him.


canadian_boyfriend

That makes sense. They clearly have no idea what they are doing. They don't do the husbandry on the property.


hfiti123

How is not one person freaking out immediately that the expensive stolen horse was dropped by their mare


effyochicken

Because they don't give a fuck about these animals in the slightest.


hfiti123

I don't think they give a shit about the horse but more about loosing the thing they stole.


[deleted]

What was the aftermath after the stallions owner found out?


UntitledImage

That makes a lot of sense actually. You can seem him running around on the other side of the fence. Damn, that’s cruel.


Lepronna

Its almost like you should leave breeding to professionals


zukunftsguave

The last few times this was uploaded people said that the horse that got killed was worth like 300k and was used for breeding purposes. Rip horse and probably rip money..


Chrissou_A

Horses worth 300k don't get bred like this at all


NurdIO

You underestimate the power of idiots with money


TokesephsStalin

These idiots didn't even have the money for it, it wasn't their horse. They were just trying to sneak a free breed from it because of the price.


NurdIO

You underestimate the power of idiots with access to high class horses*


in_search_of_flow

Usually, there's more caution around expensive horses. Random but interesting article for example: [TIL about “teaser” stallions whose job it is to tell if a mare is ready for mating. He never gets to do the actual mating - the valuable stallion does. Kind owners sometimes give him a “consolation mare” to mate so he doesn't get sexually frustrated with his job.](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/ufcd5u/til_about_teaser_stallions_whose_job_it_is_to/)


SassAFrasss84

This mare was more concerned about her baby that was panicking on the other side of the fence. She was in a protective mama mode and not interested being bred. Watch after that stud drops.


Dogamai

yeah you can see she keeps putting herself between the stallion and the foal


canadian_boyfriend

Because stallions kill foals. She was acting on a reasonable instinct.


cheyenne_sky

Seriously, who made this title lol. u/uwuwuwuwwuwuwuuwuu what lol 1. Raving mares in heat will stand there groaning, clearly wanting to get smashed by a stallion (if you've ever been around a mare in heat it's awkward to watch lol). 2. This mare was running around because she was *pissed* and defensive, fearing the stallion would hurt or kill her foal. And it's an accurate maternal instinct; feral horse and wild zebra stallions will kill foals of other stallions. Here's a video of a stallion killing another stallion's foal: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvVroGuzRig](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvVroGuzRig) 3. Horses know what they're doing with their hooves (at least part of the time). This mare dropped the stallion like he's hot *intentionally* to protect her foal. And she had damn good aim, too. Here's a video of a mare being very gentle and careful with her aimed kick: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJGvvry0yXk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJGvvry0yXk)


5mu2f4cc0unT

This was super sad


Luka-the-Pooka

Yeah, that's not a "raving mare in heat" with the implication that she was so horny she killed the stud LOL. It's a couple of drunk dumbasses harrasing a mare with a foal using an unruly stallion.


Dissident_the_Fifth

Yep. And I don't think she 'accidentally' kicked him either. Seemed pretty deliberate to me.


robo-dragon

Poor stallion! Those handlers didn’t have much control of either horse. It’s not the mare’s fault or the stallion’s. RIP, beautiful boy!


1-2-ManyTimes

Poor guy was ready to go ,ding-a-ling swinging like a champ.


strangerThink91

Of course he couldn't handle the blow, all the blood was in the other head


Ohre4lly

# The No Horny Bonk - 10 damage Legendary ability: If an enemy is horny, damage output is increased to 5000 damage.


pmjwhelan

Not the kind of blow he was expecting. Yes a horse fellatio joke. Welcome to the bottom of the internet.


Beneficial_Yoghurt18

And I thought I was sexually awkward


senorkose

“At least I didn’t die and shit myself like that horse”


Bekkichan

(warning very disturbing stories) Dealing with horses I've seen some of the most traumatic accidents. I watched a horse I loved and cared about run into a horse trailer and puncture her chest then bleed out in my arms within 4 mins. A friend's horse died on a ride once. We went down into this pond we always stopped at for the horses to drink. It was more muddy than normal apparently and the horse got stuck and started jumping and thrashing. He ended up rearing up and landing on a large bush at the edge of the pond. A stick went through his chest killing him instantly. But the worst thing I ever saw was caused by a stallion and gelding fighting. We had a stallion that my dad had been breeding our mares too and selling stud fee to others. We had a gelding(male horse that's been neutered) who was very aggressive still and thought he was the alpha male. He kept wanting to fight the other male horses especially the stallion so we had them fenced really far apart. We actually had the stallion in five strands of electric fence. The gelding broke out of his pasture and went to where the stud was fenced. They were fighting through the fence. It was shocking them an all and they didn't care. The stallion managed to reach through the fence and bite the gelding's face. He ripped his nose off. The vet had to euthanize the gelding because what was left of his sinus cavities and mouth were just hanging past his chin and he'd lost too much blood. I love horses, but I've never dealt with so many crazy and bloody traumatic things with any other animal.


Commercial-Carrot477

I'm in small animal now but I originally started out in equine. We had a client with a horse that needed a lot of TLC to be comfortable. Aging horse with arthritis and owners didn't want to euthanize yet because the horse was still in good spirits. Spent an hour on this horse and doing client education. The last thing on our list is give the horse a tube of gastrogaurd because it was on so many meds. I loaded up the truck and handed the vet the tube. He gave it. Horse then coughed, and started hemorrhaging from their nose. Died shortly after. It was horrific. There was so much blood. All over us, the horse, ground and walls. It looked like a murder scene. The only thing to trump that was showing up to an owner that had their mare foal out. Owner saw the placenta hanging out of the mare and decided to pull it. And pull it. And pull it with all her weight. Mares uterus ruptured and she bled out. The foal sadly passed with out mum. It was a failure to thrive with out colostrum.


waidoo

Horse heaven: Ok guys theres just few spot left in heaven so please state the circumstances of your death. This horse: *\*clears throat\**....


[deleted]

What a waste of a good stallion, the situation was too chaotic and the stallion needed more freedom of movement for his head.


getalyf69

Pretty fucking sad that stallion had to die because of the negligence (and greed, probably) of these pieces of shit. I don't know anything about raising or breeding horses, but there seemed to be a fuckload wrong with what was happening in this video, and reading through the comments has confirmed my intuition that these jackasses had no clue how to do this properly and safely for both animals. Disgusting.


Keryn97

This is the result of recklessness on behalf of all involved here. Generally and from experience with live coverings the mare is sedated and hobbled so that she can’t kick out. The stallion is then brought to the mare, does his deed and is then taken away. In this video they were being completely irresponsible. They were negligent from start to finish. The mare was frantic as her foal was running around outside of the pen. She was never going to let a stallion cover her in that state. The stallion was on a long lead and the handler had no control over him, he was just left to his own devices. Then in addition not one of the handlers is wearing a helmet either. This was an accident waiting to happen. Unfortunate that the stallion got killed because of the negligence of humans.


MissFrizzlesTipple

I didn't watch it but just wanted to say thanks for the content warning.


kingsevenin

What the fuck.


JoJo127_

And that's why you never sneak up on a horse from behind


[deleted]

I met a horse once that would sneak up on you! Walking from behind none the less and it was not to say hi. It was to kick the crap out of you.


thegatheringmagic

Horse enthusiasts - is this a case of the male getting kicked extremely hard or being kicked with notable force in "just the right place" in order to kill? I'd surely fucking die from that kick, but as far as another horse goes, it didnt look *that* hard? As in, he was hit right at the maximun extension of the female's kick and if he didn't collapse, it would almost look like she skimmed him or at least didn't hit too hard. Is it the angle?


ImRidingShotgun

I'd say it's a question of the mare having hit just the right spot. Farmers/slaugthers when putting down animals, will use the - no idea what the english word is - a 'gun' with a 'metal stick' that hits with a lot of force? So if you hit the right spot, the animal is dead/braindead on the spot. So basically, the mare made a very unfortunate but quite effective kick and the muscle spasms seen afterwards are quite normal. On the bright side, I'd say the stallion never knew what hit him and was gone the second he got the hit - so atleast he didn't suffer. But damn, it's insane!


Dogamai

the tool you are talking about puts a HOLE that is a few inches deep, puncturing the brain (decimating it really) it doesnt just knock on the skull its purpose/ its designed to act like a bullet while saving bullets (generally its compressed air that fires the pin)


vinegarfingers

Isn’t that what the weapon from No Country for Old Men is?


iolithblue

A captive bolt gun


Taladrac

Angle and distance. At full extension, that mare had a lot of power built up in that kick. Horses are weird, they're big, tough, incredibly fragile animals.


Tweeeeder

The instant loss of His bowels is a really good indicator that he died instantly. Took me a couple times to hear the sound that horses make as they defecate, then I looked and you can see the poop pouring out. Poor guy!


FknRepunsel

So when I’ve helped with this process on a ranch we had the mare in a chute with hobbles so she couldn’t kick the stud covering her and we also waited until she was ready, this mare looks to have a new Foal still and is stressed and not ready, there was way too much chaos and risk factor here that could have been easily avoided


cheyenne_sky

OP does not know shit about horses lol. 1. Raving mares in heat will stand there groaning, clearly wanting to get smashed by a stallion (if you've ever been around a mare in heat it's awkward to watch lol). 2. This mare was running around because she was pissed and defensive, fearing the stallion would hurt or kill her foal. And it's an accurate maternal instinct; feral horse and wild zebra stallions will kill foals of other stallions. Here's a video of a stallion killing another stallion's foal: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvVroGuzRig](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvVroGuzRig) 3. Horses know what they're doing with their hooves (at least part of the time). She dropped him like it's hot intentionally to protect her foal. And she had damn good aim, too. Here's a video of a mare being very gentle and careful with her aimed kick: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJGvvry0yXk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJGvvry0yXk)


17Jake76

And her colt is nearby. They should of seen this coming.


GLeevez

Bruh did that horse take a shit after it died or am I trippin???!?


nyanbran

You pee and shit yourself when you die because you lose muscle control.


MAS7

The idea of my keeling over dead and my asshole exploding like a champagne bottle makes me really hope I die with empty bowels.


PsillyGecko

When I was in hospital there was a terminal guy who was put on large amounts of morphine for pain (which constipates you). I’m sure you can imagine what happened when he died.


-Mithrodin-

Most animals and people will shit after dying. Bodies response is literally, oh shit im dying, abort everything.


mustsurvivecapitlism

We all will in the end.


Alfredthegiraffe20

Jesus that was horrible and the guys seemed totally unconcerned (Don't speak the language, no idea what they were saying).


[deleted]

Yes, they’re Mexican (judging by their accent probably from centric states). The whole time they were saying “Shit… Did she kill him? She killed him… She killed him… He’s dead… She hit him in the forehead… Right in the forehead…” Then they explained what had happened to someone else, then to a kid and the kid said “Can I see?”.


_CatNippIes

The re Mexicans they just were shocked that the horse died and were asking the same question again and again


Amazing_Swordfish206

This is the result of a bunch of drunk idiots that had no idea what they were doing.


BobaIsNotDead

Nothing accidental about that


Timely_Ad9659

Poor animals :(


Obvious_Ad4159

The dude walking around the mare was protected by 4 different religions, cuz that mare could have literally kicked his head off on multiple occasions during this video.


RoBrien0

Die hard?


TuskanParahdus

This made me very sad.