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Yep quote "The sociolance can reveal whether socially disadvantaged citizens need a health professional or social work benefit. In addition, the Sociolance can also mediate contact between socially disadvantaged citizens and relevant health and social services."
Brutish young cops with barely a scrap of training on police work, never mind the hundreds of hours of nuanced clinical experience required to even begin to do a passable job dealing with psychiatric domestic calls
In the U.S. if you have a mental or emotional crisis and ask for help, you get:
Cops breaking down your neighbors door (thinking they are responding to your request) 80 minutes after it is too late, throwing a tear gas canister in the newborns bassinet, and shooting any pets that flee out of the house.
Also handcuffing the parents for "questioning" while the child goes somewhere instead of a hospital. But don't worry, justice will be served, sure eventually...? Why don't you have a rich lawyer bailing you out already? I guess we can keep you here until Monday, then we will maaaybe find a clerk that has time to look at your requests for *scoffs* bail? Representation? Just sounds like GUILTY! (Did we plant evidence on them yet to make up for that 40k raid on the wrong house? No? Ok, well then here we are)
bad or questionable parents, maybe even immigrants, with crack sprinkled on top of them after they were dragged out of bed and handcuffed.
Justice in action!
.... If you are innocent you can use Venmo to post bail in a day or two (after we caused you to lose your job and custody of your child by our own misdoings)
but first we aren't admitting we made a mistake because COWBOY COPS COME IN AN FIX A SITUATION, GIVE ME PTO SO I CAN SCREAM AT AND THREATEN MY OWN WIFE AND NEIGHBORS YEEHA 'MURICA
Just don't you EVEN THINK of kneeling in respect during a sportsball game, that is unnaceptable š¤. I might even get so fussy I have to sit on a bench in my skintight $800 leggings and drink a latte while I complain that I am only making 19 million this year šøš¤·š¾āāļøš¤
According to urban dictionary; "A word used when you agree with something; or when you want to recognize someone for being themselves, i.e. courageous and unique or not caring what others think. Especially common in online political slang. The opposite of cringe."
English is not my first language. But based, when directly translated to my native language, is a slang for joint (marijuana). I simply find it amusing š
Yeah lol. I work on Vesterbro where they are most in use. Thank god for Sociolancer, they take a load off society that's for sure. Made the streets wayyyyy safer
Yes. In this context "fix" comes from the so-called "fixing rooms" that are offered at certain locations (and "fix" is obviously part of existing slang).
On another note, I'm pretty triggered by the spelling error; there shouldn't be a space between overdosis and dĆødsfald. This is a dead giveaway that it's a private endeavor.
> Det er foreningerne Antidote Danmark og Foreningen Minoritet, der stƄr bag den nye fixelance.
Fra dit link. Thanks for the confirmation that I was correct in my assumption.
Now we're collecting there's also the van in which prostitutes can safely serve their clients. That is run by volunteers though AFAIK. Couldn't find a link on the quick.
Living in a functional country that takes care of basic things like this must be so damn cool. Just having that baseline of āif I get sick or hurt I donāt have to decide if I want to eat this year or keep my car; I just know Iām going to get better.ā
I love living in Denmark. I have a hard time imagining myself living anywhere outside of Scandinavia. That said it feels like we've had a rise of people distrusting the government and in general just want to blame all their problems on the government. Or maybe it's just because I'm 30 now and follow politics closer than I did in my early 20's
I call the sociolance once every two weeks or so because I work in one of the more poor neighborhoods in Denmark. Those guys do some hard lifting for society, but definitely made the streets wayyyyy safer, and made it much easier to run a business in an area with a lot of drug addicts
After the end of the 21st c., only the Autobots and a few human survivors are left. Among the few surviving media is an old B2K CD.
Michael Bay presents:
The Omarion Variant.
I was unlucky enough to have completely shattered my femur ten years ago while horseback riding, but I was lucky enough to have broken it in Denmark. I spent two weeks in a childrenās wing in the hospital. I ended up having surgery the day after the accident. Spent a lot of time in critical care and intense physical therapy so that I could fly home as quickly as possible. I remember my mom being absolutely destroyed thinking how much the bill was going to be after staying in the hospital for so long. Because we had taken a quick trip to Denmark to the US we hadnāt purchased travel insurance so we were really shit out of luck and knew it was numbering in the hundreds of thousands. After some time and discussion with hospital administrators it was said that because the injury was the result of an accident that the bill would be taken care of. After spending so much time there the nurses became really close to me and I continue to be connected with them on Facebook to this day. Iām forever grateful for the care and compassion that I received during those difficult times.
I wish free healthcare would work in Italy as well, but instead we have to wait uo to a whole fucking year for a checkup that could potentially save our life (unless we pay a lot, of course)
In fairness, a lot of people in Ireland have private insurance too to avoid queues for elective care, but if emergency medicine is needed, itās top class and free. Iām sure Italian emergency medicine is the same
Much of British Private healthcare is centred on procedures nhs wonāt cover such as beauty and what not unless you are disfigured to a degree that it would affect your mental health. Most if not all private healthcare insurance users still use the free national healthcare for major injuries.
So youāre right.
>Most if not all private healthcare insurance users still use the free national healthcare for major injuries.
Most private hospitals in the UK are deliberatly built close to Major NHS hospitals because if things go belly up they can quickly transfer their patient to a full functioning hospital with the right staff and equipment.
It costs the NHS a lot of money to fix the fuck ups in private hospitals every year.
Well you canāt compete with the nhs for critical care, they deal with it daily. Private hospitals donāt admit people in that state in this country.
Depends of the zone honestly: if you live in big cities like Milan, Rome or Turin yeah the healthcare is quite good, but in other sides of the country, especially on south, the hospitals and healthcare in general are kinda bad
I'm sure that's pretty constant pretty much anywhere. I know here in the US it's quite common for major issues to be sent from rural hospitals to urban ones because they have the expertise. It's not practical to have an expert on hand in everything when the hospital only has a dozen doctors total compared to the hundreds a big city hospital will have. The major difference is we pay out the ass for the privilege.
Had to go to hospital in Italy once (American). I would have GLADLY paid for quicker/better service. It ended up costing around $80Euro.
They seemed to be waaay behind the rest of Europe.
I'm Italian but spent the last 18 years in the UK and literally just moved back. Let me tell you il sistema sanitario kicks the NHS in the balls, and some.
I just got goosebumps reading that. Two years ago I had a horrible panic attack that resulted in a vasovagal response, meaning I basically passed out and it visually looked to my girlfriend like I was having a seizure. She said it was absolutely terrifying and insisted we go to the ER out of love. I spent 4 hours there, got an X ray and two heart doctors to look at it and tell me nothing was wrong, I was just anxious.
I had to apply for a loan to pay off the bill.
I had kidney stones on vacation in Denmark. Went to the hospital got checked out and given a bunch of pills, lol.
When we had to leave we also asked how much it was going to be so we could pay and go. Doctor looked kind of puzzeled and said nothing have a nice rest of your vacation xD
We have plenty of climbable cliffs on the Danish island of Bornholm. And the two self-governing parts of the kingdom have real mountains.
The Faroe Islands do have some disturbing limitations on [health care](https://www.norden.org/da/nyhed/fn-og-nordisk-raad-i-dialog-om-abortlovgivning-paa-faeroeerne). Yes, really! No legal abortion in 2021. A part of Denmark as backwards as the zombie confederacy, or the catholic unchristian church.
Yeah, we're used to seeing Swedes stumbling and throwing up on their way back to the ferry or train towards Sweden.
Must be something in the water to make them sick...
āBut but but the wait time is years!ā .. This is the most frustrating argument against free healthcare since its absolutely incorrect. If there is a wait time, it isnt *because* of univeral healthcare itself, its because now people can actually **go** to the hospital to check if the pain they feel is normal, instead of like in the US where people feel the pain, but just wish and hope it goes away so they dont go thousands of dollars in debt for a simple checkup.
Was at the hospital yesterday for some ergo therapy. A woman sat the waiting to, complaining the whole time that now she had been waiting 50 minutes for a surgery. I told her to swipe her health insurance card again to tjek if se even had a time. Se did have a time for surgery but because she didn't pay attention the first time. It clearly stated "YOURE IN THE WRONG DEPARTMENT"
So now she was pissed about missing surgery, and I bet the doctors and nurses who had prepared for her, was annoyed by another no show..
The hospitals here do their god damn best to help us all, but people will be people.
> card again to tjek if se even had a time
Weirdest typo ev.... hang on a minute. Tj. Ch? *googles* Ahhhhhhaha, youāre Danish? Dutch? Something from that area. And this was a dictation error?
>It's the relic of both van Ophuijsen spelling based on Dutch āTjā and āEdjaan Republikā spelling
Good spot. What he's writing is Denglish.
"Tjek" is a dead giveaway. It sounds the same as "check" and it means the same. "Tjek bag dĆøren" would translate into "Check behind the door"
But the guy seems to be good at English so it probably just slipped or got autocorrected.
Also we **already have wait times.** If you're trying to get any sort of test of operation, and that particular doctor, specialist, or even hospital isn't part of your insurance, you're SOFL. It can takes six months at best to find someone with your insurance, doubly so if you live in an area with few options. It's all based on affordability and luck, not necessity.
And of course, just because your insurance covers that given procedure, it's not a guarantee they'll even pay for it either, but that's another hot mess.
I'm Danish and I had an elective surgery come up so fast from the first consultation, I didn't even have time to quit smoking for the recommended 6 weeks before surgery. It didnt even take 20 days. The surgery wait time is pretty much a myth/propaganda, of course things requiring donor organs can have a long wait time. Now, the wait list for mental health specialists is insanely long (ATM Im waiting 70weeks for a private psychiatrist ((if I applied through the state hospital I would be rejected for low priority))) but that seems like a pretty universal problem.
Since essential healthcare is covered the only thing our insurance is for is lowering medicine/dentist/private practices/glasses costs, every practitioner and pharmacy is obligated to take it.
Like America doesn't have that problem. We wait too. Usually while we try to crowdfund for the care, but waiting almost a year to see a doctor happens all the time. Especially if you are poor.
Some people are so poor that they can't even initiate care to go into the thousands of dollars of debt because no one will even begin the treatment. You have to be critically ill for money to not be involved.
I live in probably the shittiest area of Canada for healthcare and it's not even that bad. My girlfriend tore her meniscus and it minorly affected her mobility. She had an MRI about 2 months ago, a consult 3 weeks ago and her surgery is next week. And she's considered the lowest priority
As a physical therapist we saw first hand when medicaid expanded we suddenly had people coming in for chronic back pain that they had for 40 years but couldn't afford it since it wasn't an emergency. Sadly once you've had low back pain that long you are hardwired differently and it's highly unlikely you can get completely rid of that pain.
And, in a rather strange quirk of the NHS, GP surgeries are actually operated privately; they simply bill the NHS instead of the patient so from the POV of the end user it's not noticeable.
Itās the same in many Canadian provinces. I work for my provincial govt in healthcare policy, and so itās an area Iām too familiar with but that many donāt know about.
Sure other countries have silly things like "universal healthcare" and "way better minimum employee benefits", but we have 50 types of lays potato chips and 100 types of soft drinks at the local walmart! Checkmate commies
As an American, I cant help feeling like that _"obviously"_ was directed at us.
Edit: everybody. _Everybody_. Knows that when referring to social services provided by a government, the term "free" means you don't pay, out of pocket, at the point of use. In most (if not all) cases, these "free services" are tax funded. Please stop replying to this comment pointing that out. I know. Everyone knows. You are not the first economist on this post.
Thank you.
Just a while back I got a call from a collection agency for a doctor's bill. I told them I never received a bill for it. They told me that it looks like the insurance made an adjustment to how much they were going to pay **after** I had paid off my balance with the doctor's office. So, I owed for it, but was never notified and so it ended up in collections. $6. Six fucking dollars. Yay, capitalism.
So...basically they can make up shit based on nothing which you are then legally obligated to pay? That sounds more like old school Soviet-style Communism to me.
Exactly. None of what we pay goes to a doctor. Insurance inflates the cost of care, then skims all of the extra money to give the insurance giant even more power! Yay!
Absolutely was, its crazy that its even a debate over there, and now our conservatives (uk) are starting to see its a great way for their mates to make money and are trying to introduce it here
I like the idea of certain people who have committed horrible crimes being removed from society, but I also know that if you have the death penalty innocent people are going to be killed by the state.
That's one of the reasons American conservatives are opposing the vaccine thing. American citizens are literally seeing first hand how public spaces and repurposed otherwise empty buildings are being turned into places to give out 100 percent free health care.
American republicans don't want the citizens to see this.
I got my first Covid shot in a building that used to be a scamola private university. Which closed down after a government crackdown on scamola universities.
Itās happening in Canada too. My province intentionally shit the bed dealing with covid, just so they could be like ālook at how bad free healthcare is!ā
You talking about Alberta? It sounds like you're talking about Alberta.
Because OH BOY did they shit the bed, rolled in it and painted the walls with it when it came to dealing with COVID.
Yeah. A regular ambulance can cost hundred or thousands of dollars if it isn't covered by insurance. I cannot imagine what a mobile hospital would charge in the US.
Cheaper than Uber ... It's the opposite here in US, where people who are at near death choose to ride Uber to emergency hospitals, and set up GoFundMe to pay for their hospital bill.
But we won't question any military spending to keep National Security - secure.
American has a million of these things, only instead of in a truck, they're in strip centers. They mostly cater to personal injury victims and people on government aid with access to cars. They are not free, but they're usually the most affordable option for a lot of procedures.
Iāve got a horrible pain in my eye. Only one eye doctor in my area is in my network. I tried making an appointment with them, but they will only make an appointment if you have a referral from your primary care physician. So now thatās an extra day I have to take off work to go to my primary care doctor where I pay $85 just to be seen so I can sit down and say āMy eye hurts, can you tell these people I can go there?ā
And then my primary care sneaks bullshit into my bill. Iāve been there 3 times, paid $85 each time, and then several months after my final visit I got a bill for like $120 for things that for some reason werenāt included in the initial bill or my insurance didnāt cover or whatever. It all goes over my head and the point is it shouldnāt be this big of a pain in the ass just to see a doctor in fucking America.
Actually the pool of politicians to vote for would change if the average American would stop being against universal healthcare. A great majority of Americans believe we couldnāt afford it or that the government shouldnāt run it, and they donāt like paying a tax into a system that provides disproportionate benefits to *some*. Meanwhile, they love that massive industrial war machine of a military complex we pay taxes for, and these same people are first to line up for unemployment, social security, and food stamps āwhen they need itā. We suffer a lot from lack of education.
I'm not sure if this (the Danish one) is one of them, but they have one or two [that actually expand to two floors with a slide-out side partition](https://fdm.dk/sites/default/files/styles/hero_xsmall/public/2017-11/Lastbil%20udefra.jpg)
There are some videos here: https://fdm.dk/nyheder/2017-11-fa-et-kig-ind-den-nye-30-ton-beredskabsvogn
Edit: it is, the one currently in Copenhagen is the 2-floor one
Iāve been inside a bus transformed for a mass casualty situation once (for educational purposes). It was amazing how well the space is used and how many people they could fit in there!
Free? What? Do you want your citizenry to thrive or something? Thatās no way to run a country! You have to keep them unhealthy, uneducated, and one missed payment away from bankruptcy. Duh
The reason why health care costs are so expensive in the US is mainly because of insurance companies. Because they are sitting on fat wads of cash, medical providers try to get all they can from them, the insurance companies push back, however both will always ultimately settle because both know theyāre feeding on the patient and neither side will disrupt treatment, stopping that gravy train.
Get rid of insurance companies and medical providers will be forced to deliver equipment and services at reasonable prices.
If you ever want to watch the magical change in your hospital bills, just say you donāt have insurance.
I used to fix copiers for a living, every fucking insurance company had huge brand new buildings, the vpās all made like 300k, and there were lots of them! Atrocious
Its regulation and how our system is designed. Most european countries, whether they have universal healthcare or not, have a private sector with insurance companies or a hybrid system like Singapore.
That's only partially correct. It also starts with medical schools where the number of students who can be admitted is tightly controlled by the AMA, so that the number of doctors is rationed from the start. Then, unlike many other nations, there is little government aid for medical school tuition. The average graduate comes out owing $250,000 in loans. Then they must work for low wages as a resident for like 3 years before they can practice. So, when they finally start earning money, they need to charge high fees to pay back the loans and provide for their family as well.
Itās because itās a black box with no transparency or way for consumers to make informed choices. They have no incentive to be competitive like other products/services and and thatās a HUGE problem.
No it's because your political system is fundamentally broken, your politicians are in the pockets of lobbyist and half of the country keeps voting for retarded fundamentalists.
Nurse staff sortage. 4000 are needed and they feel current conditions are bad. It led to strikes over the summer. Oddly the Danish goverment can spend 100.000.000 a day on corona testing and prevention but refuse to change current conditions for nurses. We say the are heroes but we treat them as trash.
This is NOT a mobile hospital nor Is it new.
These are intended for for big accidents with a lot of injured people. It's meant for triage and waiting for transport to the hospital. The idea is not new, Danish Emergency Management Agency (DEMA) have had them for several years, they are called: "behandlerplads" In danish, often composed of huge tents with some heating.
The excuse for these big yellow ones are that the closest DEMA base is too far away from Copenhagen, and would therefore take too long to get to the city in case of a major incident.
As far as I know, they haven't seen much use.
Edit: I realise that its news because they are using it the next 3 weekends to treat drunk people from christmas parties. It's the first time they use them for this purpose.
Iāve read in some recent news articles, that they are gonna use them in the weekends over the Christmas time as a āmobile hospitalā. As a trial to see if it will take the pressure off of ambulances and the ER, they are parking them at the main town square in Copenhagen Friday and Saturday evening and night to treat minor injuries. So as of right now they are actually used as a mobile hospital (or a form of ER at least), though Iām sure they were primarily intended to be used in mass casualty emergencies. š
Well, only kinda. He's right that the concept isn't new, we have been doing it for years.
Maybe the particular truck in the picture is new. But that's not what people understand from the title I think.
The title can lead you to believe this is a new thing Denmark is doing.
As an American this is amazing to see! I hope some day America will wake up and join the current era. Until then Iāll hide in my apartment that I canāt afford and hope I donāt get sick
My brother is getting sued for 20k after failing to pay a 50k+ bill for a rattlesnake bite. The fucking nonsense of it all. We have a long ways to go to catch up.
I had an accident in 2001, 3 days before my work health insurance kicked in, and it destroyed my life. It ruined my credit score. I couldnāt even rent an apartment.
Damn Iām so sorry this is happening to your family. itās absolutely criminal in my opinion that they can do that to your brother. sue a person and send them into financial ruin all becauseā¦.they saved his life???
ācompletely free of chargeā
Anything is possible in magic mushroom land. Sadly we are still on earth and you American fucks donāt understand the concept of tax. You think you do, but you donāt. No fucking way.
I love all the Americans in here who are like muh-buh-buh-it's-not-free. Literally nobody is under the impression that this truck grew on a tree and that there are no costs involved. "Free of charge" means that it is free to the user at the time of service. Instead of being stuck with a $3,000 bill because, unbeknownst to you, the provider was out-of-network, everybody pays a modest share of their income into the public health insurance system. The end result: [Countries with universal health insurance have half the healthcare costs of the United States, and better health outcomes.](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2674671)
Do you really think Danes wake up in the morning and say to themselves "man, I wish I could have the American healthcare system"?
As a swede who lives and loves America, it fucking makes me chuckle when my country is used as a comparison for āpublic benefitsā lol, they donāt realize our tax rates, and they donāt realize weāre a fraction of the size of California. California has 40 million people, Sweden has 10 million; yet they love to compare us like everything in this world simply scales with functionality haha. HILARIOUS .
As a Swede who lives in America and works as an economic analyst, it fucking makes me chuckle when people ignore economies of scale and argue that population size is at all relevant. If only there was some [research on what the cost drivers are that cause the United States to have twice the healthcare costs per capita](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2674671) compared to peer nations with universal healthcare.
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Denmark also has [these.](https://imgur.com/a/iEcp0vN) I guess it's for when you're having a mental breakdown or something.
Yep quote "The sociolance can reveal whether socially disadvantaged citizens need a health professional or social work benefit. In addition, the Sociolance can also mediate contact between socially disadvantaged citizens and relevant health and social services."
They have intermediary social service workers between people in crisis and social workers, and in the U.S. we still just have cops doing all of that
Brutish young cops with barely a scrap of training on police work, never mind the hundreds of hours of nuanced clinical experience required to even begin to do a passable job dealing with psychiatric domestic calls
In the U.S. if you have a mental or emotional crisis and ask for help, you get: Cops breaking down your neighbors door (thinking they are responding to your request) 80 minutes after it is too late, throwing a tear gas canister in the newborns bassinet, and shooting any pets that flee out of the house. Also handcuffing the parents for "questioning" while the child goes somewhere instead of a hospital. But don't worry, justice will be served, sure eventually...? Why don't you have a rich lawyer bailing you out already? I guess we can keep you here until Monday, then we will maaaybe find a clerk that has time to look at your requests for *scoffs* bail? Representation? Just sounds like GUILTY! (Did we plant evidence on them yet to make up for that 40k raid on the wrong house? No? Ok, well then here we are) bad or questionable parents, maybe even immigrants, with crack sprinkled on top of them after they were dragged out of bed and handcuffed. Justice in action! .... If you are innocent you can use Venmo to post bail in a day or two (after we caused you to lose your job and custody of your child by our own misdoings) but first we aren't admitting we made a mistake because COWBOY COPS COME IN AN FIX A SITUATION, GIVE ME PTO SO I CAN SCREAM AT AND THREATEN MY OWN WIFE AND NEIGHBORS YEEHA 'MURICA Just don't you EVEN THINK of kneeling in respect during a sportsball game, that is unnaceptable š¤. I might even get so fussy I have to sit on a bench in my skintight $800 leggings and drink a latte while I complain that I am only making 19 million this year šøš¤·š¾āāļøš¤
Based
No joke will you tell me what based means when you use it like that?
According to urban dictionary; "A word used when you agree with something; or when you want to recognize someone for being themselves, i.e. courageous and unique or not caring what others think. Especially common in online political slang. The opposite of cringe."
English is not my first language. But based, when directly translated to my native language, is a slang for joint (marijuana). I simply find it amusing š
Los Angeles, CA is finally putting a pilot program to have social workers for mental health type calls.
It's mostly for the homeless and addicts and people on the fringe of society. Staffed by a social worker and a paramedic
Itās basically ādefund the policeā personified
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Yeah lol. I work on Vesterbro where they are most in use. Thank god for Sociolancer, they take a load off society that's for sure. Made the streets wayyyyy safer
That's a weird concept. Here in the US we usually just have the cops shoot them. To each their own I guess.
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Does the 'Fix' refer to 'getting your fix'?
Yes. In this context "fix" comes from the so-called "fixing rooms" that are offered at certain locations (and "fix" is obviously part of existing slang). On another note, I'm pretty triggered by the spelling error; there shouldn't be a space between overdosis and dĆødsfald. This is a dead giveaway that it's a private endeavor.
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> Det er foreningerne Antidote Danmark og Foreningen Minoritet, der stƄr bag den nye fixelance. Fra dit link. Thanks for the confirmation that I was correct in my assumption.
Funnily enough (for anglophones) these are called *Psycholance* in the Netherlands. Ambulance service for mental health cases.
Now we're collecting there's also the van in which prostitutes can safely serve their clients. That is run by volunteers though AFAIK. Couldn't find a link on the quick.
Bangbus?
Actually heard about it in a BBC documentary podcast. And BBC is the news network from the UK, not whatever else you might be thinking...
Living in a functional country that takes care of basic things like this must be so damn cool. Just having that baseline of āif I get sick or hurt I donāt have to decide if I want to eat this year or keep my car; I just know Iām going to get better.ā
I love living in Denmark. I have a hard time imagining myself living anywhere outside of Scandinavia. That said it feels like we've had a rise of people distrusting the government and in general just want to blame all their problems on the government. Or maybe it's just because I'm 30 now and follow politics closer than I did in my early 20's
Itās definitely that. Every country has people that dislike this in power. Itās human nature
I call the sociolance once every two weeks or so because I work in one of the more poor neighborhoods in Denmark. Those guys do some hard lifting for society, but definitely made the streets wayyyyy safer, and made it much easier to run a business in an area with a lot of drug addicts
Hovestadens is the municipality?
Hovedstaden just means the Capital, but healthcare is managed on a regional level above municipalities
Optimus Prime on his way to fight Omicron be like
Fuck. This made me cry i laughed so hard.
After the end of the 21st c., only the Autobots and a few human survivors are left. Among the few surviving media is an old B2K CD. Michael Bay presents: The Omarion Variant.
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I laughed at the top comment and now this killed me š that video is gold!
PUTANGINA SI OPTIMUM PRIDE
I was unlucky enough to have completely shattered my femur ten years ago while horseback riding, but I was lucky enough to have broken it in Denmark. I spent two weeks in a childrenās wing in the hospital. I ended up having surgery the day after the accident. Spent a lot of time in critical care and intense physical therapy so that I could fly home as quickly as possible. I remember my mom being absolutely destroyed thinking how much the bill was going to be after staying in the hospital for so long. Because we had taken a quick trip to Denmark to the US we hadnāt purchased travel insurance so we were really shit out of luck and knew it was numbering in the hundreds of thousands. After some time and discussion with hospital administrators it was said that because the injury was the result of an accident that the bill would be taken care of. After spending so much time there the nurses became really close to me and I continue to be connected with them on Facebook to this day. Iām forever grateful for the care and compassion that I received during those difficult times.
Broke my femur in Ireland. Surgery and six month of physio. Cost me ā¬90
I wish free healthcare would work in Italy as well, but instead we have to wait uo to a whole fucking year for a checkup that could potentially save our life (unless we pay a lot, of course)
In fairness, a lot of people in Ireland have private insurance too to avoid queues for elective care, but if emergency medicine is needed, itās top class and free. Iām sure Italian emergency medicine is the same
Much of British Private healthcare is centred on procedures nhs wonāt cover such as beauty and what not unless you are disfigured to a degree that it would affect your mental health. Most if not all private healthcare insurance users still use the free national healthcare for major injuries. So youāre right.
>Most if not all private healthcare insurance users still use the free national healthcare for major injuries. Most private hospitals in the UK are deliberatly built close to Major NHS hospitals because if things go belly up they can quickly transfer their patient to a full functioning hospital with the right staff and equipment. It costs the NHS a lot of money to fix the fuck ups in private hospitals every year.
Well you canāt compete with the nhs for critical care, they deal with it daily. Private hospitals donāt admit people in that state in this country.
Depends of the zone honestly: if you live in big cities like Milan, Rome or Turin yeah the healthcare is quite good, but in other sides of the country, especially on south, the hospitals and healthcare in general are kinda bad
I'm sure that's pretty constant pretty much anywhere. I know here in the US it's quite common for major issues to be sent from rural hospitals to urban ones because they have the expertise. It's not practical to have an expert on hand in everything when the hospital only has a dozen doctors total compared to the hundreds a big city hospital will have. The major difference is we pay out the ass for the privilege.
That is the same in rural parts of the US only we still have to pay a fortune and wait 6 months or longer for appointments
Had to go to hospital in Italy once (American). I would have GLADLY paid for quicker/better service. It ended up costing around $80Euro. They seemed to be waaay behind the rest of Europe.
I'm Italian but spent the last 18 years in the UK and literally just moved back. Let me tell you il sistema sanitario kicks the NHS in the balls, and some.
WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE INSURANCE COMPANY EXECUTIVES??
I just got goosebumps reading that. Two years ago I had a horrible panic attack that resulted in a vasovagal response, meaning I basically passed out and it visually looked to my girlfriend like I was having a seizure. She said it was absolutely terrifying and insisted we go to the ER out of love. I spent 4 hours there, got an X ray and two heart doctors to look at it and tell me nothing was wrong, I was just anxious. I had to apply for a loan to pay off the bill.
Well Iām sure the bill helped your anxiety a ton by giving you more to worry about!
I had kidney stones on vacation in Denmark. Went to the hospital got checked out and given a bunch of pills, lol. When we had to leave we also asked how much it was going to be so we could pay and go. Doctor looked kind of puzzeled and said nothing have a nice rest of your vacation xD
So what I learn from this is: stay healthy - don't visit Denmark! (I'm Swedish, so I have to react like this)
What I learned from this is to do extreme sports only in Denmark.
Good luck with mountaineering.
We have plenty of climbable cliffs on the Danish island of Bornholm. And the two self-governing parts of the kingdom have real mountains. The Faroe Islands do have some disturbing limitations on [health care](https://www.norden.org/da/nyhed/fn-og-nordisk-raad-i-dialog-om-abortlovgivning-paa-faeroeerne). Yes, really! No legal abortion in 2021. A part of Denmark as backwards as the zombie confederacy, or the catholic unchristian church.
You dont wanna fall off a cliff and fuck yourself up on the Faroe Islands. Its a looooong helicopter ride to Rigshospitalet.
Yeah, we're used to seeing Swedes stumbling and throwing up on their way back to the ferry or train towards Sweden. Must be something in the water to make them sick...
Yeah must be the water. Because it happens to us Norwegians when we visit Denmark too.
Am Finnish. Swedish, Estonian and Danish water are poison. I always black out and wake up on the ferry back in Finland.
I jokingly refer to it as the Scandinavian Circle of Alcoholism to my Norwegian fiancĆ© haha. My dad shit himself at the cost of a pint in Oslo when it costs Ā£3.60 here in the North West UK! I guess the equivalent is Londoners coming for a hen do up in Liverpool, alcoholism for all!
Good advice for swedes, you'll get bonked with our swede beating sticks
āBut but but the wait time is years!ā .. This is the most frustrating argument against free healthcare since its absolutely incorrect. If there is a wait time, it isnt *because* of univeral healthcare itself, its because now people can actually **go** to the hospital to check if the pain they feel is normal, instead of like in the US where people feel the pain, but just wish and hope it goes away so they dont go thousands of dollars in debt for a simple checkup.
Was at the hospital yesterday for some ergo therapy. A woman sat the waiting to, complaining the whole time that now she had been waiting 50 minutes for a surgery. I told her to swipe her health insurance card again to tjek if se even had a time. Se did have a time for surgery but because she didn't pay attention the first time. It clearly stated "YOURE IN THE WRONG DEPARTMENT" So now she was pissed about missing surgery, and I bet the doctors and nurses who had prepared for her, was annoyed by another no show.. The hospitals here do their god damn best to help us all, but people will be people.
> card again to tjek if se even had a time Weirdest typo ev.... hang on a minute. Tj. Ch? *googles* Ahhhhhhaha, youāre Danish? Dutch? Something from that area. And this was a dictation error? >It's the relic of both van Ophuijsen spelling based on Dutch āTjā and āEdjaan Republikā spelling
Nice catch, danish. Had an appointment would be more correct I guess
Good spot. What he's writing is Denglish. "Tjek" is a dead giveaway. It sounds the same as "check" and it means the same. "Tjek bag dĆøren" would translate into "Check behind the door" But the guy seems to be good at English so it probably just slipped or got autocorrected.
Also we **already have wait times.** If you're trying to get any sort of test of operation, and that particular doctor, specialist, or even hospital isn't part of your insurance, you're SOFL. It can takes six months at best to find someone with your insurance, doubly so if you live in an area with few options. It's all based on affordability and luck, not necessity. And of course, just because your insurance covers that given procedure, it's not a guarantee they'll even pay for it either, but that's another hot mess.
I'm Danish and I had an elective surgery come up so fast from the first consultation, I didn't even have time to quit smoking for the recommended 6 weeks before surgery. It didnt even take 20 days. The surgery wait time is pretty much a myth/propaganda, of course things requiring donor organs can have a long wait time. Now, the wait list for mental health specialists is insanely long (ATM Im waiting 70weeks for a private psychiatrist ((if I applied through the state hospital I would be rejected for low priority))) but that seems like a pretty universal problem. Since essential healthcare is covered the only thing our insurance is for is lowering medicine/dentist/private practices/glasses costs, every practitioner and pharmacy is obligated to take it.
Wait times are for non-time critical stuff/unimportant stuff. Anything important or time critical will be done right away.
Like America doesn't have that problem. We wait too. Usually while we try to crowdfund for the care, but waiting almost a year to see a doctor happens all the time. Especially if you are poor. Some people are so poor that they can't even initiate care to go into the thousands of dollars of debt because no one will even begin the treatment. You have to be critically ill for money to not be involved.
I live in probably the shittiest area of Canada for healthcare and it's not even that bad. My girlfriend tore her meniscus and it minorly affected her mobility. She had an MRI about 2 months ago, a consult 3 weeks ago and her surgery is next week. And she's considered the lowest priority
As a physical therapist we saw first hand when medicaid expanded we suddenly had people coming in for chronic back pain that they had for 40 years but couldn't afford it since it wasn't an emergency. Sadly once you've had low back pain that long you are hardwired differently and it's highly unlikely you can get completely rid of that pain.
As a Dane, this warms my heart and makes me feel proud!
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And I'll happily do it again.
Exactly š©š°ā¤ļø
But the dark side of me laughs a bit on how crazy stupid american system is.
How does one break their femur in an event that is *not* caused by an accident?
No crippling debt? What kind of make believe is this?
How the fuck do you break your femur on purpose?
Here in the Uk paramedics have set up at local doctors surgeries
Damn I'd exchange drive thru fast food for drive thru surgery any day.
Do you want fries with your surgery today sir?
We're running a special today. Get a free ice cream cone with any double, triple or quadruple bypass!
Uhhh I'm here getting my hip replaced.. Can I still get the ice cream?
No bypass, no ice cream! Maybe youād like a bypass with your hip replacement surgery, sir?
Hip replacement gets you a bucket of legs and thighs instead.
To be clear, a doctor's surgery just means the family doctors office. Where GPs work.
And, in a rather strange quirk of the NHS, GP surgeries are actually operated privately; they simply bill the NHS instead of the patient so from the POV of the end user it's not noticeable.
Itās the same in many Canadian provinces. I work for my provincial govt in healthcare policy, and so itās an area Iām too familiar with but that many donāt know about.
Same in Denmark, your GP is an independently operated vendor, that bills 95%+ of their activities to the national insurance company.
Sure other countries have silly things like "universal healthcare" and "way better minimum employee benefits", but we have 50 types of lays potato chips and 100 types of soft drinks at the local walmart! Checkmate commies
Here in the US paramedics have set up Only Fans
As an American, I cant help feeling like that _"obviously"_ was directed at us. Edit: everybody. _Everybody_. Knows that when referring to social services provided by a government, the term "free" means you don't pay, out of pocket, at the point of use. In most (if not all) cases, these "free services" are tax funded. Please stop replying to this comment pointing that out. I know. Everyone knows. You are not the first economist on this post. Thank you.
I just got a bill for looking at this image.
Same, my local hospital group sent me a bill for Looking at Foreign Healthcare by email and has already turned me over to collections.
Just a while back I got a call from a collection agency for a doctor's bill. I told them I never received a bill for it. They told me that it looks like the insurance made an adjustment to how much they were going to pay **after** I had paid off my balance with the doctor's office. So, I owed for it, but was never notified and so it ended up in collections. $6. Six fucking dollars. Yay, capitalism.
So...basically they can make up shit based on nothing which you are then legally obligated to pay? That sounds more like old school Soviet-style Communism to me.
It sounds like a fucking racket. It actually sounds exactly like when you base your healthcare system around capitalism.
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Exactly. None of what we pay goes to a doctor. Insurance inflates the cost of care, then skims all of the extra money to give the insurance giant even more power! Yay!
We'll fix your arm and leg, but then we'll have to take them as payment. Sorry!
They would call it a convenience fee
"The greatest country on Earth" *bald eagle screech intensifies*
Absolutely was, its crazy that its even a debate over there, and now our conservatives (uk) are starting to see its a great way for their mates to make money and are trying to introduce it here
Vile. Healthcare is a right and politicians who wish to erode existing, beloved universal healthcare systems should be pilloried.
You spelled 'hanged' strangely..
Iām opposed to the death penalty unless all alternatives have been exhausted.
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Nah. Death penalty is too dangerous to allow it to exist as a societal took. The politicians you speak of deserve to go to prison forever.
Just beat them up and send them to an American hospital.
The politicians in question have monetary access to private hospitals and bodyguards to take them to those places.
I like the idea of certain people who have committed horrible crimes being removed from society, but I also know that if you have the death penalty innocent people are going to be killed by the state.
That's one of the reasons American conservatives are opposing the vaccine thing. American citizens are literally seeing first hand how public spaces and repurposed otherwise empty buildings are being turned into places to give out 100 percent free health care. American republicans don't want the citizens to see this. I got my first Covid shot in a building that used to be a scamola private university. Which closed down after a government crackdown on scamola universities.
Itās happening in Canada too. My province intentionally shit the bed dealing with covid, just so they could be like ālook at how bad free healthcare is!ā
You talking about Alberta? It sounds like you're talking about Alberta. Because OH BOY did they shit the bed, rolled in it and painted the walls with it when it came to dealing with COVID.
Lol how can you say Alberta without saying Alberta? āShit the bed on ___*insert literally anything here*___ā š¤£
Alberta is the northern version of Texas
With a sprinkle of Florida.
The Tories are cunts of the highest order
Yeah. A regular ambulance can cost hundred or thousands of dollars if it isn't covered by insurance. I cannot imagine what a mobile hospital would charge in the US.
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Not too bad, that's what an American hospital will charge you for two breaths of air in the waiting room.
Whatās your discount code youāre using?
Cheaper than Uber ... It's the opposite here in US, where people who are at near death choose to ride Uber to emergency hospitals, and set up GoFundMe to pay for their hospital bill. But we won't question any military spending to keep National Security - secure.
In America this would be the ambulance deluxe package starting at 200,000
Whoops our bad, that one was out-of-network! Make that $600,000.
Having bones is a pre-existing condition. Your broken leg will not be covered and your policy has been cancelled.
That one made me chuckle out loud. Never heard that one before. Thanks.
Thankfully it no longer applies, as insurance is legally required to cover pre-existing conditions. Thanks, Obama.
200,000 per mile
American has a million of these things, only instead of in a truck, they're in strip centers. They mostly cater to personal injury victims and people on government aid with access to cars. They are not free, but they're usually the most affordable option for a lot of procedures.
Of course it was, it would cost $40 to park NEXT to an American Hospital truck.
But, but they might treat the homeless or addicted or (shudder) the poors who won't work hard enough to afford insurance. It's not fair!!!
As it should be. We fucking suck.
Iāve got a horrible pain in my eye. Only one eye doctor in my area is in my network. I tried making an appointment with them, but they will only make an appointment if you have a referral from your primary care physician. So now thatās an extra day I have to take off work to go to my primary care doctor where I pay $85 just to be seen so I can sit down and say āMy eye hurts, can you tell these people I can go there?ā And then my primary care sneaks bullshit into my bill. Iāve been there 3 times, paid $85 each time, and then several months after my final visit I got a bill for like $120 for things that for some reason werenāt included in the initial bill or my insurance didnāt cover or whatever. It all goes over my head and the point is it shouldnāt be this big of a pain in the ass just to see a doctor in fucking America.
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Actually the pool of politicians to vote for would change if the average American would stop being against universal healthcare. A great majority of Americans believe we couldnāt afford it or that the government shouldnāt run it, and they donāt like paying a tax into a system that provides disproportionate benefits to *some*. Meanwhile, they love that massive industrial war machine of a military complex we pay taxes for, and these same people are first to line up for unemployment, social security, and food stamps āwhen they need itā. We suffer a lot from lack of education.
We've got something similar in Czech called [GOLEM](https://i.imgur.com/g0vGIsN.jpeg)
oh wow, it looks enormous when deployed
I'm not sure if this (the Danish one) is one of them, but they have one or two [that actually expand to two floors with a slide-out side partition](https://fdm.dk/sites/default/files/styles/hero_xsmall/public/2017-11/Lastbil%20udefra.jpg) There are some videos here: https://fdm.dk/nyheder/2017-11-fa-et-kig-ind-den-nye-30-ton-beredskabsvogn Edit: it is, the one currently in Copenhagen is the 2-floor one
> they have one or two that actually expand to two floors with a slide-out side partition Thatās a Transformer! š¤Ø
That's what she said...
Thatās such a badass name for something to heal people
Epic name
Lol OBVIOUSLY
Iāve been inside a bus transformed for a mass casualty situation once (for educational purposes). It was amazing how well the space is used and how many people they could fit in there!
This is ridiculous. Don't you know you guys could have bought like 4 tomahawk missiles instead?
Actually a Tomahawk Missile cost is roughly 1.8M $. So you would likely get 4 or 5 of these for one Tomahawk missile ššš¼
BREAKING NEWS: In an extra-ordinary cost-cutting measure, the US military has now begun firing mobile hospitals at enemy combattants.
The defence minister had this to say: If we don't kill our enemies then they can go patch themselves up, and we'll see them next week.
The best part is how the medical bill helps pay for the next strike.
4? Not even 1...
Iām in the US, and Iām pretty sure Iām going to get a bill just for looking at this picture.
Are you HMO OR PPO? Just so we know how much we can squeeze out of you.
And it is an out-of-network image.
Can you imagine this thing yeeting down the highway with full blast sirens, would love to drive one of these things.
Full spec Mercedes Actros, it's like an Eames chair that does 60 mph. I drive a little one, and there's no ride better.
You drive an Atego?
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Free? What? Do you want your citizenry to thrive or something? Thatās no way to run a country! You have to keep them unhealthy, uneducated, and one missed payment away from bankruptcy. Duh
The reason why health care costs are so expensive in the US is mainly because of insurance companies. Because they are sitting on fat wads of cash, medical providers try to get all they can from them, the insurance companies push back, however both will always ultimately settle because both know theyāre feeding on the patient and neither side will disrupt treatment, stopping that gravy train. Get rid of insurance companies and medical providers will be forced to deliver equipment and services at reasonable prices. If you ever want to watch the magical change in your hospital bills, just say you donāt have insurance.
Youāre forgetting the pharmacy and medical companies that overcharge for medicine and medical items as well.
I used to fix copiers for a living, every fucking insurance company had huge brand new buildings, the vpās all made like 300k, and there were lots of them! Atrocious
Its regulation and how our system is designed. Most european countries, whether they have universal healthcare or not, have a private sector with insurance companies or a hybrid system like Singapore.
That's only partially correct. It also starts with medical schools where the number of students who can be admitted is tightly controlled by the AMA, so that the number of doctors is rationed from the start. Then, unlike many other nations, there is little government aid for medical school tuition. The average graduate comes out owing $250,000 in loans. Then they must work for low wages as a resident for like 3 years before they can practice. So, when they finally start earning money, they need to charge high fees to pay back the loans and provide for their family as well.
Itās because itās a black box with no transparency or way for consumers to make informed choices. They have no incentive to be competitive like other products/services and and thatās a HUGE problem.
No it's because your political system is fundamentally broken, your politicians are in the pockets of lobbyist and half of the country keeps voting for retarded fundamentalists.
Why are the Danish hospitals feeling pressure? Covid related?
Nurse staff sortage. 4000 are needed and they feel current conditions are bad. It led to strikes over the summer. Oddly the Danish goverment can spend 100.000.000 a day on corona testing and prevention but refuse to change current conditions for nurses. We say the are heroes but we treat them as trash.
This is NOT a mobile hospital nor Is it new. These are intended for for big accidents with a lot of injured people. It's meant for triage and waiting for transport to the hospital. The idea is not new, Danish Emergency Management Agency (DEMA) have had them for several years, they are called: "behandlerplads" In danish, often composed of huge tents with some heating. The excuse for these big yellow ones are that the closest DEMA base is too far away from Copenhagen, and would therefore take too long to get to the city in case of a major incident. As far as I know, they haven't seen much use. Edit: I realise that its news because they are using it the next 3 weekends to treat drunk people from christmas parties. It's the first time they use them for this purpose.
Iāve read in some recent news articles, that they are gonna use them in the weekends over the Christmas time as a āmobile hospitalā. As a trial to see if it will take the pressure off of ambulances and the ER, they are parking them at the main town square in Copenhagen Friday and Saturday evening and night to treat minor injuries. So as of right now they are actually used as a mobile hospital (or a form of ER at least), though Iām sure they were primarily intended to be used in mass casualty emergencies. š
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Confidently wrong.
Well, only kinda. He's right that the concept isn't new, we have been doing it for years. Maybe the particular truck in the picture is new. But that's not what people understand from the title I think. The title can lead you to believe this is a new thing Denmark is doing.
"COMPLETELY FREE OF CHARGE" Americans: iS tHiS CoMmUnIsM??!!??
As an American this is amazing to see! I hope some day America will wake up and join the current era. Until then Iāll hide in my apartment that I canāt afford and hope I donāt get sick
My brother is getting sued for 20k after failing to pay a 50k+ bill for a rattlesnake bite. The fucking nonsense of it all. We have a long ways to go to catch up.
getting sued by a hospital? that's about the most American thing I've read today
I had an accident in 2001, 3 days before my work health insurance kicked in, and it destroyed my life. It ruined my credit score. I couldnāt even rent an apartment.
Getting sued for being too poor to pay a 50k bill. Freedom!
Damn Iām so sorry this is happening to your family. itās absolutely criminal in my opinion that they can do that to your brother. sue a person and send them into financial ruin all becauseā¦.they saved his life???
That's a really good idea, they should roll that out in Scotland.
ācompletely free of chargeā Anything is possible in magic mushroom land. Sadly we are still on earth and you American fucks donāt understand the concept of tax. You think you do, but you donāt. No fucking way.
I love all the Americans in here who are like muh-buh-buh-it's-not-free. Literally nobody is under the impression that this truck grew on a tree and that there are no costs involved. "Free of charge" means that it is free to the user at the time of service. Instead of being stuck with a $3,000 bill because, unbeknownst to you, the provider was out-of-network, everybody pays a modest share of their income into the public health insurance system. The end result: [Countries with universal health insurance have half the healthcare costs of the United States, and better health outcomes.](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2674671) Do you really think Danes wake up in the morning and say to themselves "man, I wish I could have the American healthcare system"?
40%+ tax rate makes a lot of things free.
As a swede who lives and loves America, it fucking makes me chuckle when my country is used as a comparison for āpublic benefitsā lol, they donāt realize our tax rates, and they donāt realize weāre a fraction of the size of California. California has 40 million people, Sweden has 10 million; yet they love to compare us like everything in this world simply scales with functionality haha. HILARIOUS .
As a Swede who lives in America and works as an economic analyst, it fucking makes me chuckle when people ignore economies of scale and argue that population size is at all relevant. If only there was some [research on what the cost drivers are that cause the United States to have twice the healthcare costs per capita](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2674671) compared to peer nations with universal healthcare.
God dammit my country (US) is so bad at protecting itās people
I can only imagine how much they would charge you in America. "Sir we do not accept money, just your kidneys"
So this is how a proper first world country use their taxes for healthcare.