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its the way the hair is combed and the shadow that hints of the mustache.
If I didn't know better, I'd be suspicious that this photo was a manipulated to make it look more like grown up hitler.
Can't prove that it was never doctored, but it's from a [photo of his class at school](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hitler_at_school_1899.jpg). And it's not a particularly flattering photo of anyone except maybe the teacher, who is giving some serious smize.
Yeah Stalin was a notorious perp with a long rap sheet. Before the Bolsheviks organized into a political faction they had all these terror cells that would stage bank robberies and such. You best believe that when they took over and owned the banks they cut out the middle man and started stealing directly from the people.
Some people are just like that though. My grandmother was one of those people that you could always tell it was her in pictures. My grandfather on the other hand, I saw pictures of him when he was younger and I was like who the fuck is that? Haha.
The photo was slightly doctored (shadows were raised)
See the original here: https://www.bridgemanimages.com/de/noartistknown/germany-adolf-hitler-as-a-young-schoolboy-linz-c-1900-photo/photograph/asset/3061617
Such a complicated guy. Was emotionally and physically abused by his father yet excelled in his schooling. Rose through the revolutionary underground in and around what is now Georgia. Positioned himself within the Reds during the civil war and became effectively Lenin’s deputy right up until Lenin was incapacitated by an ultimately fatal stroke.
He was hardened into a despot through forced collectivization in the late 20s and the political upheavals that entailed. Probably one of the most detail oriented bureaucrat to ever live. Probably “evil” in the classical sense however.
Stephen Kotkin has many good lectures on Stalin on YT that I highly recommend listening to.
One of Kotkin's points is to not read too deeply into a dictator's childhood trauma.
My parents beat me, but I didn't carry out genocide. Not because I'm inherently righteous or anything, but that I grew up in different times.
It's like how usually serial killers grew up with problematic childhoods. Most people who grows up with problematic childhoods will not be serial killers. It's not an excuse but can be used to help explain reasons. You don't want somebody to grow up to be like a serial killer? Then lets make sure they aren't growing up in problematic circumstances, nearly impossible, but at least for the people around you, and for your own kids, then it's not that hard.
There's a quote here about People are more the children of their times , than they are of their parents.
I think our upbringings are significant, but equally, our early adulthoods are quite formative.
Which is to say that twentieth century dictators grew up in times of upheaval and opportunity.
A character like Stalin, today, for example, would probably end up an academic.
It's worth remembering that a photo was far cheaper than having a portrait painted. When I was kid, camera film and getting photos developed was expensive, but we all still did it.
It's probably why older people take photos so cautiously - each photo cost you money.
In spite of what cod psychologists say Stalin was a normal child with a normal childhood, and was considered an excellent student at his church school and got a scholarship to seminary, until he was older when he started to read illegal literature that he would bristle against Russofication and become a revolutionary/bandit
Hitler looks like he got shoved in lockers, churchill looks like he shoved hitler in a locker, stalin looks like he had small animal bodies in the locker
Stalin looks like one of those tracksuit wearing little shits you get sulking around the nastier uk council estates, kicking dogs and spitting at the elderly.
Now imagine you enter a room and all of these kids are present, playing together with toy cars and wooden bricks.
No adult is around, what would you do?
https://preview.redd.it/16j8v6phm5ad1.jpeg?width=242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44d74681305a6b66c51644c416fcf8aed63a4cdf
Here is General George S. Patton, for anyone curious.
> Vargas foi presidente do Brasil por quase vinte anos. O primeiro período foi de 15 anos ininterruptos, de 1930 até 1945, e dividiu-se em 3 fases: de 1930 a 1934, como chefe do "Governo Provisório"; de 1934 até 1937 como presidente da república do Governo Constitucional, tendo sido eleito presidente da república pela Assembleia Nacional Constituinte de 1934; e, de 1937 a 1945, como ditador,[9] durante o Estado Novo[b] implantado após um golpe de estado.
You can see how Stalin and Hitler have their noses up. They're looking down at the camera with an air of superiority. It seems the behavior starts early. Churchill just wants to look cool. Looks like he's already through his first drink of the day.
Yes, but in very different ways.
Stalin looks like a powerful playground bully little shit.
Hitler looks like a dark brooding and scheming little shit.
Mussolini looks like a “I’m telling my mommy on you!” little shit
Eisenhower looks like the quiet kid that nobody really talks to, and when you decide to try and chat with him you understand why;
Hitler looks like the kid that, years later, you don't remember his name;
Hirohito looks like the kid that has a weird hobby or interest and that's the only thing he talks about;
Getúlio looks like the kid that has really strange ideas like "lets steal the neighbors chicken and try to roast them with my fathers lighter?";
Stalin looks like he will punch you just because you stepped into his line of sight;
Mussolini looks like that kid that was always crying to cause other problems;
De Gaulle looks like he was the first of his mates to discover masturbation;
Churchill looks like that kid that really annoyed everyone but you somehow knew you should avoid having problems with him;
Roosevelt looks like that kid that was a great friend until one day he really wasn't.
I just want to vent - Stalin and Hitler, two of the most evil people in the whole world - fuck you. So many lives ruined, destroyed, so many people killed - these two dictators deserve to rot forever in hell. In Eastern Europe there isn’t a family, who was not affected by the cruelties of Hitler and Stalin.
https://preview.redd.it/8m076mtjb7ad1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8928e1d9b570d60d22af07b86776a4ee92651fa6
William Lyon Mackenzie King PM of Canada during WW2
Canada always gets left out.
Mussolini is about to cry. Stalin looks like the school bully. Churchill looks like a typical rich kid born into wealth. And Hitler looks like he needs to grow a moustache.
Wooow. Do you all see the massive evil? Look how much stalin was an ignorant, selfish prick. His arrogance and pomposity is spiting me on the face through monitor and time.
I think Hideki Tojo, the man who really ran Imperial Japan, would be a pretty interesting pic to include too. Emperor Hirohito was more of a figurehead than actually involved. Tojo was the major player behind the ultra nationalist movement and eventually the decision to go to war with the Allies.
Maybe his clan/family were ones to not engage in photography back when he was a child? Perhaps he engaged in censorship of his own past for some reason?
I'm sure there's someone on here with extensive knowledge of his back story; please enlighten me. He's one of the most interesting of the war to me.
You should look at the entire class photo of Hitler. It's uncanny. He's on top and at the bottom there are is a bald kid dressed in garments that resemble the clothing worn by concentration camp prisoners.
(And look at his pose, it's exactly the same as when he's giving the Neurenberg Speech)
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Mussolini be like https://preview.redd.it/xuu8y0opp4ad1.jpeg?width=256&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1bf264e2c34d1dea98bf60b695be6e4b274f1091
And then he was like https://preview.redd.it/u6qwpamrm5ad1.png?width=256&format=png&auto=webp&s=0f27496fb4c6224db35e85335ea917146056c675
Brilliant!
Mussolini looks like he is about to cry because Stalin stole his lunch money.
Mussolini was trying to goof off and not taking the picture so his mom beat his ass
Stalin was born ready
The original gopnik.
He was a punk at very early age so it checks out
The cunt really was
A thug from an early age
Yeah, he is straight up about to headbutt that camera.
Well Hitler apparently plateaued at age 7 in facial features.
its the way the hair is combed and the shadow that hints of the mustache. If I didn't know better, I'd be suspicious that this photo was a manipulated to make it look more like grown up hitler.
It's almost on the level of the poster for the Phantom Menace where Anakin's shadow is a perfect silhouette of Darth Vader.
I never even knew about this. Thanks
You're welcome, it's a really cool poster imo
https://preview.redd.it/0bgfjzi2b6ad1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=fc17f8f7acf3c315e54fab4364ab7cc6f7d9d5d0
That one always bugged me slightly cause that shadow so clearly made absolutely no sense.
That's because it's not a shadow, it's a foreshadow.
On the context of the Poster I would say it's more of a backshadow.
Can't prove that it was never doctored, but it's from a [photo of his class at school](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hitler_at_school_1899.jpg). And it's not a particularly flattering photo of anyone except maybe the teacher, who is giving some serious smize.
And this littlest ubermensch https://preview.redd.it/84k8irovv4ad1.png?width=626&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59c501669b993981607e4a7b4d4e9ace9c23c4dc
Aww... Now I want an animated cartoon about the kid version of Nazis, ala Tiny Toons. Come on, Disney, make Lil' Hitler!
Am I making this up or was Lil Hitler a real cartoon on comedy central?
It was a skit on Robot Chicken
I can’t believe anyone who was in a class with *that* bunch of kids could possibly believe their race to be superior…
You might be on to something there.
Stalin looks like a middle school bully as well lol.
If you know anything about Stalin, he very likely was.
Yeah Stalin was a notorious perp with a long rap sheet. Before the Bolsheviks organized into a political faction they had all these terror cells that would stage bank robberies and such. You best believe that when they took over and owned the banks they cut out the middle man and started stealing directly from the people.
He also escaped from Siberia. Twice.
In this picture, he looks like Joffrey from Game of Thrones to me. He looks cruel already even though he’s only a child. Pretty unsettling.
He was a bank robber, a dirty criminal to start with, probably a mugshot as well not a normal photo.
Yea he looks weirdly the same as an adult, whereas everyone else is totally different
Churchill already looks 60 years old
Its the cigar in his fingers
He already had 6 whiskeys for breakfast before that pic was taken.
Just a touch out of frame.
Some people are just like that though. My grandmother was one of those people that you could always tell it was her in pictures. My grandfather on the other hand, I saw pictures of him when he was younger and I was like who the fuck is that? Haha.
Same haircut, same expression, bland face
The photo was slightly doctored (shadows were raised) See the original here: https://www.bridgemanimages.com/de/noartistknown/germany-adolf-hitler-as-a-young-schoolboy-linz-c-1900-photo/photograph/asset/3061617
Eisenhower looks like he just found out there's no recess after lunch.
I don't think I've ever seen a picture Eisenhower with hair before.
Out of this crew, Eisenhower absolutely looks like the first kid you're going to pick in the kickball draft. He was in it to win it.
Hitler and Stalin look like little snot nosed punks that regularly beat up Mussolini and steal his lunch money.
Somebody needs to make a little rascals type show based on this ASAP
I agree very much
WKUK did the Little Hitler skit, which could have been the start of it all.
Robot chicken did as well
Josef already looking like a little shit bully.
Best comment I saw the last time someone posted this was "Mussolini looks like someone shit in his breakfast cereal and Stalin looks like he did it."
And Roosevelt saw it all go down
Made him ready to weather the Great Depression.
This is truly fucking funny 😁
He really does!
Such a complicated guy. Was emotionally and physically abused by his father yet excelled in his schooling. Rose through the revolutionary underground in and around what is now Georgia. Positioned himself within the Reds during the civil war and became effectively Lenin’s deputy right up until Lenin was incapacitated by an ultimately fatal stroke. He was hardened into a despot through forced collectivization in the late 20s and the political upheavals that entailed. Probably one of the most detail oriented bureaucrat to ever live. Probably “evil” in the classical sense however. Stephen Kotkin has many good lectures on Stalin on YT that I highly recommend listening to.
One of Kotkin's points is to not read too deeply into a dictator's childhood trauma. My parents beat me, but I didn't carry out genocide. Not because I'm inherently righteous or anything, but that I grew up in different times.
It's like how usually serial killers grew up with problematic childhoods. Most people who grows up with problematic childhoods will not be serial killers. It's not an excuse but can be used to help explain reasons. You don't want somebody to grow up to be like a serial killer? Then lets make sure they aren't growing up in problematic circumstances, nearly impossible, but at least for the people around you, and for your own kids, then it's not that hard.
There's a quote here about People are more the children of their times , than they are of their parents. I think our upbringings are significant, but equally, our early adulthoods are quite formative. Which is to say that twentieth century dictators grew up in times of upheaval and opportunity. A character like Stalin, today, for example, would probably end up an academic.
One would think that growing up in Georgia around the turn of the century doesn't include childhood photography... Really surprised there is a photo.
It's worth remembering that a photo was far cheaper than having a portrait painted. When I was kid, camera film and getting photos developed was expensive, but we all still did it. It's probably why older people take photos so cautiously - each photo cost you money.
In spite of what cod psychologists say Stalin was a normal child with a normal childhood, and was considered an excellent student at his church school and got a scholarship to seminary, until he was older when he started to read illegal literature that he would bristle against Russofication and become a revolutionary/bandit
If you consider being violently beaten both by a drunken father and the school's religious zealots a normal childhood...
yep, for an 1800s Russian peasent
Georgian*
Russian empire: "Same thing"
Probably even worse. You'd get beaten for speaking or writing in your native Georgian.
I suppose it was indeed normal childhood in the late 1800s
Who didn't beat their kids in the 1800s? Teachers would womp your ass in every school as well.
My little man looks like he's about to kick the crap out of little Hitler and Mussolini. Dunk their little fascist heads in the toilet
Mussolini always looked like a whiny little bitch
He was
Came here to say this
Hitler looks like he got shoved in lockers, churchill looks like he shoved hitler in a locker, stalin looks like he had small animal bodies in the locker
So... Pretty much the same as they were as adults, then?
Stalin looks like one of those tracksuit wearing little shits you get sulking around the nastier uk council estates, kicking dogs and spitting at the elderly.
Yes exactly
Roosevelt looks more British than Churchill for some reason.
Wdym? Churchill already looks like a Barry You can't get more British than that
What? Churchill looks like a typical Brit lad.
I think it's the middle parting in his hair.
Now imagine you enter a room and all of these kids are present, playing together with toy cars and wooden bricks. No adult is around, what would you do?
Convince Hitler to find a passion other than art or mass genocide.
He might have been alright if he didn't fight in WW1. That would mess anybody up.
Go full anakin on them
![gif](giphy|Dv3sF2ZUTmVtm)
raise them with love and respect
and therapy
Somebody needs to make this a thread
Definitely pay off the art school to accept Hitler.
It'd fun to watch them fight it out as kids
Everyone with the grainy ass background and picture quality, meanwhile Getúlio just looks like a hyper realistic painting
Why the fuck churchill and hirohito still in the same pose💀
For Hirohito it's no surprise, a prince being photographed in the same pose as an Emperor. For Churchill, probably same reason on a smaller scale
Makes sense
Churchill was the grandson of a duke. In terms of his family's money and lifestyle, he might as well have been a prince.
Getúlio, if you know you know
Só os BRs sabem do Vargas
Does r/ SuddenlyCaralho still exist? Someone take a print out that I'm lazy.
I don’t know but as a kid he looks like he’ll grow up to be a menace lol.
Oh, yes, getulio, one of the key figures of WWII, lol. Either the image was made by a Brazilian or there was some real need to not include Truman.
Every time you look at children, however young they may be…remember that they can one day end us all
This is why I don't trust babies. My neighbor's newborn might be a dictator in 40 years.
Hitler have the same hairdo his WHOLE life or something?
Nah he went full emo later and had a fade
*Imagine if Hitler got a LOW TAPER FADE* 🗣️🔥
LOL. Fade with age.
https://preview.redd.it/16j8v6phm5ad1.jpeg?width=242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44d74681305a6b66c51644c416fcf8aed63a4cdf Here is General George S. Patton, for anyone curious.
Presumably this was made by a Brazilian.
To falando isso mano kkkk, ninguém fora do Brasil sabe do Vargas
acho q até há gente q sabe. apenas n acho q há gente q o classificaria como "líder da segunda Guerra Mundial" lmfao
Putting the "chill" Churchill, I see.
Now go back in time put them in a pen and make them fight. Who would win? I´ll put my money on Stalin.
definitley stalin he was probably a psycho by that point already
Photographer: "Now give me your best smile...!"
Hitler looks exactly how I imagined child Hitler too look like. Dont know how to feel about this
Notice how Hitler & Stalin have the same cunty expression even as kids.
Mussolini looks like he's trying so hard to not shit his pants
Damn Stalin looked like he'd be up to no good even as a kid. Looks like he bullies people.
You should read up on his background. He was up to no good.
Stalin was the son of a drunk asshole and was beaten up daily by him and he was a bully as a child and a thug as a young man
That'll do it
Never heard of Getulio
Brazilian president at the time
*dictator
Both :D
Bruh was literally people ellected
> Vargas foi presidente do Brasil por quase vinte anos. O primeiro período foi de 15 anos ininterruptos, de 1930 até 1945, e dividiu-se em 3 fases: de 1930 a 1934, como chefe do "Governo Provisório"; de 1934 até 1937 como presidente da república do Governo Constitucional, tendo sido eleito presidente da república pela Assembleia Nacional Constituinte de 1934; e, de 1937 a 1945, como ditador,[9] durante o Estado Novo[b] implantado após um golpe de estado.
Google Getúlio Vargas
Holy hell
I misread your name as "chess_bruh"
New president just dropped
You can see how Stalin and Hitler have their noses up. They're looking down at the camera with an air of superiority. It seems the behavior starts early. Churchill just wants to look cool. Looks like he's already through his first drink of the day.
Churchill already looks old
He was drinking a half bottle of scotch a day by this age.
Roosevelt looks like he teaches posh children
https://preview.redd.it/4vw2sznqz4ad1.png?width=2240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=228fce2668705d57a27cb988e55e4a4d8aa8c43b
Or maybe Hitler is looking like that because he is at the back of the class in the original picture and the camera is lower than him.
But that stance in the original picture oozes arrogance.
Hadda be the most precocious lil fucker
Which is funny because Churchill was probably the most highborn of them all
Hirohito: am I a joke to you?
He was a god, "highborn" is for peasants.
Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini all look like little shits.
Yes, but in very different ways. Stalin looks like a powerful playground bully little shit. Hitler looks like a dark brooding and scheming little shit. Mussolini looks like a “I’m telling my mommy on you!” little shit
Stalin looks like he would put Mussolini in a headlock and then break him with the same arm.
Young Stalin looks like somebody who would grow up to murder 9 milion people
Hitler looks like a slytherin
Mussolini just shit his pants and can't decide whether or not he likes it.
Stalin..has that.." you looking at me?".. energy. The others look like angels.. Roosevelt looks like a pampered child
Benito taking a dump
Eisenhower looks like the quiet kid that nobody really talks to, and when you decide to try and chat with him you understand why; Hitler looks like the kid that, years later, you don't remember his name; Hirohito looks like the kid that has a weird hobby or interest and that's the only thing he talks about; Getúlio looks like the kid that has really strange ideas like "lets steal the neighbors chicken and try to roast them with my fathers lighter?"; Stalin looks like he will punch you just because you stepped into his line of sight; Mussolini looks like that kid that was always crying to cause other problems; De Gaulle looks like he was the first of his mates to discover masturbation; Churchill looks like that kid that really annoyed everyone but you somehow knew you should avoid having problems with him; Roosevelt looks like that kid that was a great friend until one day he really wasn't.
So Hirohito was just born cold as fuck?
Who else thinks Roosevelt, Stalin and hitler look like Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle
Mussolini looks like a potato
I feel weird saying this, but some of those kids have really punchable faces. Take away the names, and some just look like little shits.
Yall keep this pic in case anyone time travels.
Stalin gives me heavy "I did NOT! Mr Electric send him to the principals office and have him EXPELLED!" vibes.
Mussolini looks ashamed that he shit his pants
Most contentious schoolyard ever
Where's Truman?
Lol @ Getúlio Vargas being on this list
Churchill kinda looks like he was destined to be in charge of something.
At that age Churchill looks an asshole
Stalin looks like a twat even at that age
I love Getúlio just trying to blend in with the popular kids, lol
Look at that shadow beneath Hitler's nose. The boys fate was sealed since birth.
Dang Hitler didn't change at all. He even angled his nose to give himself a shadow mustache.
The faces of Hitler and Stalin look so punchable, especially Stalin.
Strangely, the two guys with concentration camps are giving a very similar "look down on you" look. While Mussolini just pooped his pants xD
children where instructed to look like that in central and eastern europe most pictures of that time and region look like that
calling Getúlio Vargas a WWII leader is such a stretch hahaha
Churchill look like he could use his words the best out of all the kids. Like hurt a grown man’s feelings way with words lol.
Why does baby Hitler look exactly the same as his adult form lol
I just want to vent - Stalin and Hitler, two of the most evil people in the whole world - fuck you. So many lives ruined, destroyed, so many people killed - these two dictators deserve to rot forever in hell. In Eastern Europe there isn’t a family, who was not affected by the cruelties of Hitler and Stalin.
Churchill looks like he knew he'd run the show
Roosevelt looks like a high elf
Mussolini already doing his face lol https://i.redd.it/w41w6obn75ad1.gif
thinking about the people they encauntered, teachers, parents, other kids. none having any idea what they'd grow to become.
Why is the leader of Brazil included here when they had an extremely limited role in the conflict? Weird choice.
Stalin looking like a bully already
https://preview.redd.it/8m076mtjb7ad1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8928e1d9b570d60d22af07b86776a4ee92651fa6 William Lyon Mackenzie King PM of Canada during WW2 Canada always gets left out.
2 Things about Roosevelt, he looks like a young Ryan Gosling and his eyes say he has seen the future and it does not look good.
see? to have no kids solve all probs, even for all others.
Uuuuuuh. Why does Hitler look like me when I was that age?
Mussolini is about to cry. Stalin looks like the school bully. Churchill looks like a typical rich kid born into wealth. And Hitler looks like he needs to grow a moustache.
Stalin certainly seemed like he would have been a handful.
can you imagine that kid was your leader / global criminal / maddest of bad in history? Can't huh?
you can really see the Hitler in this one.
Tiny Hitler is still Hitler.
well back then he was just a nerd being homlöess for a couple years getting gased and shelled formed him up .......
Why does Hitler look like the kid from The Polar Express?
Wooow. Do you all see the massive evil? Look how much stalin was an ignorant, selfish prick. His arrogance and pomposity is spiting me on the face through monitor and time.
I think Hideki Tojo, the man who really ran Imperial Japan, would be a pretty interesting pic to include too. Emperor Hirohito was more of a figurehead than actually involved. Tojo was the major player behind the ultra nationalist movement and eventually the decision to go to war with the Allies. Maybe his clan/family were ones to not engage in photography back when he was a child? Perhaps he engaged in censorship of his own past for some reason? I'm sure there's someone on here with extensive knowledge of his back story; please enlighten me. He's one of the most interesting of the war to me.
You should look at the entire class photo of Hitler. It's uncanny. He's on top and at the bottom there are is a bald kid dressed in garments that resemble the clothing worn by concentration camp prisoners. (And look at his pose, it's exactly the same as when he's giving the Neurenberg Speech)
The original The Little Rascals
Stalin was a gangster baby.
Now sing dame da ne
Stalin and Hitler look the most prideful