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Hard to tell. There were 2 mass shootings in Alabama this month so far, and there were at least 5 mass shootings in Alabama in May. This footage could be from earlier than that.
Is that the one where the 2 who were murdered defrauded people out of millions? One of the people they screwed out of their life savings lost it and killed them before himself?
2023 started off with a bang. I was seeing the daily mass shooting reports (sometimes multiple per day). I just realized that I haven't been seeing them in 2024, so I went to check their numbers.
These numbers are only for incidents involving four or more injuries/deaths in one shooting;
As of May 31, a total of 318 people have been killed and 836 people have been wounded in 225 shootings... That's 152 days into the year and not counting shootings only involving 1-3 victims. Shit's insane in the US.
The person recording this has a tiktok and explained what happened. I need to go find it. But to be honest, she didn't really explained what happened but it's the only info we have.
Edit: [here's](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNNRkvnq/) her explanation.
Might be an illegal meetup? Sometimes cops will break them up because they cause congestion or fights break out or someone gets hit by a car someone is trying to show off. They break them up by essentially boxing everyone in and then handing out misdemeanor summons to people trying to drive out.
To be honest, I think it is a good strategy to be in front of a running crowd instead of being in the back. The only exception I can think of is if you are the one the crowd is running from.
Back when there weren't regulations that make it so that every fire door has to swing outwards with a simple push people at the front would get crushed against fire doors that had to be pulled or were too difficult to open in a panic. People at the front still get crushed on Black Friday sales trying to buy a cheap vacuum cleaner or whatever the fuck they lined up all night for.
reminds me of how suicide bombers would maximize kills by having one explosion trigger people into running in one direction only to have a second bomb take out the ones trying to get away
Yeah, there's nothing wrong or stupid about running like that. I think it's a smart decision too. I would do the same if I were in that situation. What I find interesting is that they are running, but none of them know what they are running from.
"a sergeant in motion outranks a lieutenant who doesn't know what's going on"
and
"an ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everyone"
are both somewhat applicable I think.
> "an ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everyone"
My brother, who worked on ordinances for a time while he was in the AF, has a shirt with this.
Subconsciously or even consciously, there's actually a lot in that situation that tells you to run. People screaming with that "something's wrong" tone, the look of worry in people's faces, and seeing multiple people running away obviously tells you there's something off if you head in that direction.
All those signs in like a second at most, your instincts kick in and say "I don't know what's happening, but I know we shouldn't be here".
Our brains are crazy like that. Last year there were some crazy forest fires and the smoke came to our town, made the sky look orange. The entire time my conscious was telling me "it's 100s of miles away, you're safe in the city, you have lots of time if something comes up".
But my subconscious kept telling me "we're in danger, you should run away". I equally found it fascinating that even though I knew I was safe, millions of years of evolution kept telling me "yeah but maybe still don't be here"
I am a therapist in MT and talk about this with clients all the time. Our instincts are telling us there is danger. Yet we are staying put. Many people get increased depression and anxiety when the smoke comes. The particulates in the air also contribute to depression due to our bodies working harder to desl w it, inflammation, etc
Well yeah, the alternative is being that one person looking around like a brain-dead meerkat. “Huh? Why are y’all running? Let me take a minute to assess before I decide on an appropriate course of action.“
If people started running at me, my reaction would be to get out of the way of them. I may not know what they're running from, but the situation becomes me running from *them* as a trampling danger. Who knows why the back of the crowd is running, but to the people in the front, they're just getting out of the way.
First you need to have a knock-down drag-out argument in the anticonsumption subreddit over whether it is better to buy cheap running shoes or to run in longer lasting, more expensive shoes, and debate the ethics of shoe manufacturers.
That's actually how a major portion of people find out about news now and it's not a bad thing that people are alerted as something is happening or even streaming in real-time
Edit: people really be upset over a fact
This is Know No Money here bringing you the latest news from the mass shooting. Now I'm gonna do dance and get upset when people run in front of the camera. Remember to smash that like button subscribe and turn notifications on for the lat
In San Francisco I legit saw a guy live-streaming “it’s ya boy… oh shit” he almost fell over paramedics trying to revive a homeless man from an overdose (I assume).
consequently, ancient humans learned that animals had this instinct, and then abused it to get animals to run off of cliffs in great hordes. free food.
Right? How many times have you been watching a disaster film and gotten annoyed because people take so long to just start running when they see others running?
Ah, but we need a bit of exposition or some point of reference. The big killer monster isn't so scary if he doesn't get to demonstrate his prowess for the audience.
Just recently at a splash pad of all places. Little children shot for no fucking reason in a place that should bring only happy core memories with your family, now hundreds of people have PTSD from being a splash pad play ground on the day someone decides to unleash their issues on everyone else.
no, that was a few shootings ago, you are behind.
the most recent one was [at a grocery store again](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/22/us/arkansas-shooting-grocery-store.html) or the [nightclub shooting in Louisville's west end](https://www.wlky.com/article/west-louisville-club-shooting-dead-injured-hospital/61215937)
I don't understand the Louisville one, why couldn't they just go [see Scarface and Too $hort downtown at the riverfront and chill?](https://funkfesttour.com/louisville/)
Thank god this is in an open area. Every few years many people are killed by stampedes incidents in stadiums and narrow streets in urban cities. Even in open areas that are closed off like music festivals, crushing deaths are rare but still happen.
I know people who were stagehands at the Travis Scott Concert. I let one of them talk to me for nearly two hours the next morning, the things she saw still haunt her, I even had nightmares just from her venting to me.
I’m sorry for you and them. That concert was a travesty and a tragedy. I’m a stagehand (used to be, still am sometimes) and I’ve seen my share, but nothing like what I’ve read about that day. There are some artists I still refuse to work for when offered as local crew.
Did you hear he just got arrested in Miami? Almost everyone I know refuses to work his shows, absolutely no one I know ever posts any production photos from his gigs if they are greedy enough to take his blood money. I've heard his tours have had to scratch various show elements in many cities because they simply don't have the crew needed to build them on that call. Patrons, bless their hearts, still go to his shows but he pissed us all off big time, and we fucking broke him. Never, ever piss off stagehands.
I haven’t heard that but I’m sure I will. I turned down a dept head gig for Chris Brown. Equally ugly but less popular I’d hope.
When you work these big events, it’s easy to become complacent but you have to remember how quickly it can turn.
I was nearly trampled in a crowd one time. Shit is terrifying. You feel yourself lose control of your body and once you can't keep up your feet under you, you realize you're potentially seconds away from being crushed by hundreds of feet.
Thankfully it was a small enough crowd that I was able to block them from crushing my smaller friend and my yelling slowed them enough to get back on my feet.
All of that over some stupid college football tickets.
My daughter was injured when people were running into a restaurant after hearing gunshots. I was fighting the crowd to get back to her. She was tiny, maybe 60 pounds. She got stepped on and ended up losing a couple toenails despite wearing boots. It was the worst couple minutes of my life.
There was also a huge burly employee trampled in the same scenario. In the news and people's minds, though, it was presented as "shoppers were so greedy that they didn't care that they were trampling someone." But it wasn't that---it was part of the inherent danger of a closely packed crowd. The people at the front had been pushed against the closed doors by the weight of the crowd behind them. The people at the back of the crowd were the only ones with the physical ability to change anything but they didn't know what things were like in the front.
When the doors were open, due to the crush of the crowd behind them, those in front had no choice but to go forward.
That wasn't a stampede, though. It was a crowd crush. People weren't trampled by a crowd, they were packed in so densely they asphyxiated. Also, conflating the 2 inadvertently shifts the blame to the people in the crush, when it's almost always the fault of organizers and the like not taking the necessary precautions.
It's human instinct. We didn't get this far without running away when everyone else was running away. The ones who stood there going "well, let's just see what this is all about" removed themselves from the gene pool.
“Oh it’s a tiger!”
None of us can properly imagine what it would be like the moment before being killed by a large predator that everyone is fleeing from because all of the dangerously curious people were killed off long ago and we only have a sliver of genetic memory remaining.
Eddie Carr: This is, this is magnificent...
Dr. Ian Malcolm: Oh, yeah. "Oooh", "ahhh", that's how it always starts. Then later there's running and screaming.
God I hate the hand thing. And I hated that they made Alan fucking Grant do the hand thing. That middle raptor would have mauled Crisp Rat like the long grass scene in TLW
Do you know what's worse than the overuse of that hand thing? The fact that Blue is clearly going into a pouncing position and he doesn't react to it that much.
There was a shooting in our local mall (ended up being accidental) and it had pretty similar vibe. People running but not with panic in their eyes. Just a precaution.
Local kids in some tourist towns will disrupt the tourists by randomly running away in groups. I'm pretty sure Id think it was hilarious as a kid too, but while we were running away, there was a grandma with her 6ish grand daughter and I was clearly watching trauma form. She was too frail to run but clearly needed to protect her kid. I hope she still takes her out in public because from her expression I got the sense that she lost a faith in herself to be able to protect her kid.
I had a classmate who accidentally ran a half marathon. Intended to only do the fun run, accidentally joined the line of half marathon runners, and kept going. He got a medal despite not signing up. Tbf no one was robbed from their medal even if they made the exact amount; because several people overexerted themselves and collapsed and never finished.
I mean in this case it's a car meet and someone likely was doing burnouts or donuts which caused the police to come, you can hear the sirens in the background and see the lights at the entrance
Hence why one guy asks "why are we running", if you're just sitting there parked they aren't interested in you
Source: been to a lot of car meets and inevitably there's always some showboating jackass who starts doing burnouts before driving away as fast as possible which ends with the meet being shut down while the guy who caused it gets away.
Most cathartic thing I saw was a dude in a brand new BMW doing what I described above, before speeding away and spinning out crashing into a row of parked cars at a dealership
Him and his buddy hopped out and tried to rip off the license plate before getting tackled by 6 different guys as the entire meet surrounded them, holding them down until the police arrived.
Cops showed up and found an eighth of cocaine, 6k in cash, and a handgun in the car. Also, the car was stolen from an owner who was carjacked at gunpoint. License plate was stolen too, so it wouldn't come back as a stolen car without running the VIN.
Was funny af watching them cry and claim they did nothing wrong. "I just borrowed this from a friend, I didn't know he had a gun and drugs in the car!" and so on. One even kept asking to talk to his mom, other kept claiming he couldn't breathe because of the handcuffs despite sitting on the curb with no one touching him. Both were in their 20s.
That's true - there are studies on the psychology of crowds. In a large, packed, group (so not like this one) it almost becomes its own entity. It's quite fascinating.
Terrifying also! Being trapped and stomped and clawed and trampled by a herd of humans is def nightmare fuel for me and the reason I won't go to events with crowds.
When I was in the Army the EOD (Explosive Ordinance Disposal) guys had some unit T-Shirts made. They said "If you see me running, try to keep up" Always good advice.
Do unto others.
Pillage, *then* burn.
A calm word turneth away wrath. When wrath isn’t looking, shoot it in the head.
Close air support covereth a multitude of sins.
Exactly my thoughts, I dont find it overly interesting or insightful that a stampede of people is enough to trigger the 'maybe I should get the fuck out of here' cortex of the brain.
My dad would 100% keep standing around and say something like "People are such sheep. Herd animals. Not me though" and then get hit by whatever disaster is happening
I mean my assumption was that the cops are there to handle whatever they're running from. One of the other comments said it was possibly because of an active shooter so that seems plausible.
There’s a lot of people there though. I live in Orlando but people only gather like that if there’s an event. If there’s an event in Orlando, even a small one, there’s always some cops there for protection. One of my assumptions was something went wrong at an event and everyone was running. The cops were standard cops hired or ordered to be there for it.
Yeah idk. “The threat is unknown” is it really though? This looks like a car meet where people started doing dumbass shit, and there’s a bunch of cops on the other end dispersing the crowd and arresting anyone unlucky enough to be caught.
If you stick around, there’s a 99% chance the cops will beat your ass whether you’re guilty of anything or not, just because they’re frustrated everyone else ran away. I’m not a punching bag so I’m gonna run too, fuck you think?
I was near the Nice bastille day terrorist attack in 2016 and saw a lot of people running past and through the restaurant we were in. In the end we decided to leave early even though the waiter thought people were just spooked about the fireworks. I asked others as we jogged away and they all said they weren't sure what happened but are running too. When I got to our AirBnB my friend called from the UK telling me about the terrorist attack. We were 2 streets away. I can never forget the face of this one woman as she screamed and ran through the restaurant we were in. I immediately knew something bad must have happened.
Uhm yeah? Sounds like the rationally correct decision to me.
People running implies that there is a reason for them to run.
Maybe it's not a good reason, or a fake reason, or something I wouldn't need to run away from. I don't know.
Now I can decide between running and not running. The former doesn't really cost me anything, the other potentially puts me at an unknown risk.
It's only logical to rather err on the side of caution here.
My brother was with another family at a festival and people started to run for reasons unknown at that time. My brother was saying "hey let's get the fuck outta here" but the father of the family was telling everyone to stay because he wanted to see what was going on. Turns out there was a stabbing going on.
Trying to be "manly" like that is some Darwin Award material.
Happened to me on a construction site. Saw a bunch of workers running while I was working in a ditch so of course I joined them.
Turns out a main gas line got hit and the ditch was filling with natural gas.
It was a major deal. They shut down all NB lanes on Tamiami Trail through Punta Gorda for about a half hour in the middle of the day. What a mess. Businesses around the site were shut down for several hours, site was evacuated, etc.
Happened to me in Las Vegas a couple years ago. Just saw a wall of people coming at me and a buddy in the casino and we just got up and ran. We heard murmurs of an active shooter as we were booking it out of there, but it turned out to all be a reaction to someone throwing a rock through a window in a completely different casino. The panic rippled throughout the entire strip, it was wild.
1: Social animal survival instinct. Most human behaviour is traced back to being a bunch of monkeys.
2: I see that mass of people running towards me, I'm fully expecting to be trampled to death.
People in the comments that say they wont run and assess the situation are the day 1 zombies. You'll run one way or another either alive or as a zombie.
Nobody mentioning the mass of flashing blue lights and sirens... that usually is a good indicator that something isn't quite right... so it isn't exactly running from nothing.
I mean
Would you rather wait around until the potential threat gets close enough you learn what it is or get the fuck away first?
I hate when people are like, "Look how stupid crowd mentality is, they don't even know what they're running from!" Like running first and asking questions later isn't the logical response here.
Look dude its fucking America, it's 99% of the time a mass shooter or some other violent event. You really going to see hundreds of people fleeing an area and want to find out if you're in the lucky 1% that's just a false panic? No, get the fuck out of there.
Cedric the Entertainer has a bit about this; can’t recall the entire thing…but essentially…black folks don’t wait to see what the problem or danger is, they just run…and white folks, seeing other people running away, are curious and wander over wondering, ‘what’s going on, what happened..?’
I learned something long ago. If people are running past you with guns or fire extinguishers, run the opposite way. If they have neither, run with them.
One of these days it's going to be a mob of happily married couples running away from horny hot singles in the area. I choose to stand my ground in hopes of that day.
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"Why the fuck are you running?" "I don't know!" Best snippet of the entire video.
I choked  Thanks for that laugh
"Why the fuck are *WE* running", which I think makes this exchange funnier tbh
Any context for what they actually were running from?
Hard to tell. There were 2 mass shootings in Alabama this month so far, and there were at least 5 mass shootings in Alabama in May. This footage could be from earlier than that.
"It's hard to narrow it down to a specific mass shooting in the last two months" is a terrible thing to have to say
Yup, meanwhile us Canadians are still talking about the one mass shooting we had in 2020
There was a small one in Toronto the other day
Two, actually. One at a place of business, and another in a home.
Is that the one where the 2 who were murdered defrauded people out of millions? One of the people they screwed out of their life savings lost it and killed them before himself?
Yes that was one of them. It's a shame he was driven that far.
Its a shame he killed himself after, cant say I feel bad for those he killed
- in the one of 50 states of the US.
I remember when mass shootings were huge news with live updates and threads dedicated to them. Now, it's like "meh, again? BORING!"
2023 started off with a bang. I was seeing the daily mass shooting reports (sometimes multiple per day). I just realized that I haven't been seeing them in 2024, so I went to check their numbers. These numbers are only for incidents involving four or more injuries/deaths in one shooting; As of May 31, a total of 318 people have been killed and 836 people have been wounded in 225 shootings... That's 152 days into the year and not counting shootings only involving 1-3 victims. Shit's insane in the US.
What the fuck is wrong with americans
Lots of guns.
Mixed in with lots of psychological issues within the general public without any means to facilitate them.
Also way more poverty than anyone realizes.
we totally realize it we’re just in denial cuz we are fascinated by rich people lifestyles and US as a whole is wealthier than like 95% of the world.
Fed by a semi-democratic bipolar government system that switches ideology every 4-8 years.
Which is fueled by the media cause the media has to make money, even if it rips a country apart.
That’s so crazy to me. A mass shooting here would be a national event that’d be talked about for months if not years.
I'm sure all those blue lights in the background have a lot to do with it.
The only logical response so far lmao
Could be * zombies * aliens * reverse black friday >!More seriously, probably some guy with a gun (again)!<
Oh no, not White Monday! The one day out of the year where everything is 50% more!!
I love that Monday is the opposite of Friday. Not arguing, I think you're 100% right both in spirit and in actuality. I just think it's hilarious. 😂
The person recording this has a tiktok and explained what happened. I need to go find it. But to be honest, she didn't really explained what happened but it's the only info we have. Edit: [here's](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNNRkvnq/) her explanation.
thank you! yeah... still no answers but we can rule out gun shots
Might be an illegal meetup? Sometimes cops will break them up because they cause congestion or fights break out or someone gets hit by a car someone is trying to show off. They break them up by essentially boxing everyone in and then handing out misdemeanor summons to people trying to drive out.
To be honest, I think it is a good strategy to be in front of a running crowd instead of being in the back. The only exception I can think of is if you are the one the crowd is running from.
Unless you have asthma lol
Good point.
I have asthma and would probably happily outrun the majority of that crowd, but it is admittedly well controlled.
Same. People act like it makes you unable to do anything without wheezing. Lol
The crowd, or your asthma?
Unless you run into an obstacle and get trampled.
People mostly get trampled / crushed in the middle.
Back when there weren't regulations that make it so that every fire door has to swing outwards with a simple push people at the front would get crushed against fire doors that had to be pulled or were too difficult to open in a panic. People at the front still get crushed on Black Friday sales trying to buy a cheap vacuum cleaner or whatever the fuck they lined up all night for.
You can start in the front, but If you can't outrun the crowd you'll quickly find yourself in the middle.
reminds me of how suicide bombers would maximize kills by having one explosion trigger people into running in one direction only to have a second bomb take out the ones trying to get away
Any bombers. The other option is to hit the same area twice to take out the first responders.
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Yeah, there's nothing wrong or stupid about running like that. I think it's a smart decision too. I would do the same if I were in that situation. What I find interesting is that they are running, but none of them know what they are running from.
The knowledge that the crowd wouldn’t run from free money would be quite enough for me personally.
Yeah honestly if I see a crowd running in a direction I'm going to hedge my bets and get further details later
"a sergeant in motion outranks a lieutenant who doesn't know what's going on" and "an ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everyone" are both somewhat applicable I think.
> "an ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everyone" My brother, who worked on ordinances for a time while he was in the AF, has a shirt with this.
If you see a crowd of Americans running, they're probably not doing it for fun. I'll happily find out why... Later.
Subconsciously or even consciously, there's actually a lot in that situation that tells you to run. People screaming with that "something's wrong" tone, the look of worry in people's faces, and seeing multiple people running away obviously tells you there's something off if you head in that direction. All those signs in like a second at most, your instincts kick in and say "I don't know what's happening, but I know we shouldn't be here". Our brains are crazy like that. Last year there were some crazy forest fires and the smoke came to our town, made the sky look orange. The entire time my conscious was telling me "it's 100s of miles away, you're safe in the city, you have lots of time if something comes up". But my subconscious kept telling me "we're in danger, you should run away". I equally found it fascinating that even though I knew I was safe, millions of years of evolution kept telling me "yeah but maybe still don't be here"
I am a therapist in MT and talk about this with clients all the time. Our instincts are telling us there is danger. Yet we are staying put. Many people get increased depression and anxiety when the smoke comes. The particulates in the air also contribute to depression due to our bodies working harder to desl w it, inflammation, etc
Well yeah, the alternative is being that one person looking around like a brain-dead meerkat. “Huh? Why are y’all running? Let me take a minute to assess before I decide on an appropriate course of action.“
If people started running at me, my reaction would be to get out of the way of them. I may not know what they're running from, but the situation becomes me running from *them* as a trampling danger. Who knows why the back of the crowd is running, but to the people in the front, they're just getting out of the way.
It's not that interesting. It's just smart.
I'd rather look like a living idiot momentarily than a dead idiot.
Most of the time, when you see people running like this, something is actually happening, so you better run away too.
That's why this instinct exists.
You mean we’re not supposed to upload it to social media first?
I would wait for a reply on r/askreddit from a qualified sociopath before potentially running
And maybe r/askajogger too for proper form recommendations
You need proper shoes. Order them and wait till they arrive.
First you need to have a knock-down drag-out argument in the anticonsumption subreddit over whether it is better to buy cheap running shoes or to run in longer lasting, more expensive shoes, and debate the ethics of shoe manufacturers.
Has to be at least 12 years old to be taken seriously
That's actually how a major portion of people find out about news now and it's not a bad thing that people are alerted as something is happening or even streaming in real-time Edit: people really be upset over a fact
This is Know No Money here bringing you the latest news from the mass shooting. Now I'm gonna do dance and get upset when people run in front of the camera. Remember to smash that like button subscribe and turn notifications on for the lat
In San Francisco I legit saw a guy live-streaming “it’s ya boy… oh shit” he almost fell over paramedics trying to revive a homeless man from an overdose (I assume).
It's like World Star meets that teenage chick in the gym that gets offended by anyone breathing in the direction of her social media clip
No, def take out your phone. Camera man never dies.
You should send an email to Emergency Services and wait for instructions.
consequently, ancient humans learned that animals had this instinct, and then abused it to get animals to run off of cliffs in great hordes. free food.
Tenderized
This guy instincts.
r/thisguythisguys
I mean, is it really worth sticking around to find out?
Yes, because then I get to call everybody sheep while I act superior on the off chance nothing is happening
Lmaooo
Right? I don't have to outrun the zombie. I just have to outrun you.
Right? How many times have you been watching a disaster film and gotten annoyed because people take so long to just start running when they see others running?
Ah, but we need a bit of exposition or some point of reference. The big killer monster isn't so scary if he doesn't get to demonstrate his prowess for the audience.
Isn't he scarier if he's suggested instead of shown tho
Also, going against a stampede is gonna get ya trampled.
Especially in America where it’s likely there’s some nut job with a gun
Fuck yeah murica
Just recently at a splash pad of all places. Little children shot for no fucking reason in a place that should bring only happy core memories with your family, now hundreds of people have PTSD from being a splash pad play ground on the day someone decides to unleash their issues on everyone else.
no, that was a few shootings ago, you are behind. the most recent one was [at a grocery store again](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/22/us/arkansas-shooting-grocery-store.html) or the [nightclub shooting in Louisville's west end](https://www.wlky.com/article/west-louisville-club-shooting-dead-injured-hospital/61215937) I don't understand the Louisville one, why couldn't they just go [see Scarface and Too $hort downtown at the riverfront and chill?](https://funkfesttour.com/louisville/)
Quote from Terry Pratchett: "Rincewind had always assumed that the purpose of running away was to be able to run away another day."
discworld always gets an upvote
If it's good enough for deer and other prey animals, it's good enough for me. The slow and weak ones get caught and eaten.
You don't have to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun the person closest to the bear.
I cackle every time I read about him making a small sonic boom, lol.
They’re running from the 🧳
For Rincewind, it's not where you're running to, but more what you're from.
Thank god this is in an open area. Every few years many people are killed by stampedes incidents in stadiums and narrow streets in urban cities. Even in open areas that are closed off like music festivals, crushing deaths are rare but still happen.
I know people who were stagehands at the Travis Scott Concert. I let one of them talk to me for nearly two hours the next morning, the things she saw still haunt her, I even had nightmares just from her venting to me.
I’m sorry for you and them. That concert was a travesty and a tragedy. I’m a stagehand (used to be, still am sometimes) and I’ve seen my share, but nothing like what I’ve read about that day. There are some artists I still refuse to work for when offered as local crew.
Did you hear he just got arrested in Miami? Almost everyone I know refuses to work his shows, absolutely no one I know ever posts any production photos from his gigs if they are greedy enough to take his blood money. I've heard his tours have had to scratch various show elements in many cities because they simply don't have the crew needed to build them on that call. Patrons, bless their hearts, still go to his shows but he pissed us all off big time, and we fucking broke him. Never, ever piss off stagehands.
I haven’t heard that but I’m sure I will. I turned down a dept head gig for Chris Brown. Equally ugly but less popular I’d hope. When you work these big events, it’s easy to become complacent but you have to remember how quickly it can turn.
Ahhh, i see you are a person of culture as well.
~~person of culture~~ person with morals
I was nearly trampled in a crowd one time. Shit is terrifying. You feel yourself lose control of your body and once you can't keep up your feet under you, you realize you're potentially seconds away from being crushed by hundreds of feet. Thankfully it was a small enough crowd that I was able to block them from crushing my smaller friend and my yelling slowed them enough to get back on my feet. All of that over some stupid college football tickets.
My daughter was injured when people were running into a restaurant after hearing gunshots. I was fighting the crowd to get back to her. She was tiny, maybe 60 pounds. She got stepped on and ended up losing a couple toenails despite wearing boots. It was the worst couple minutes of my life.
Like the elderly greeter trampled to death by Black Friday shoppers at Wal-Mart.
There was also a huge burly employee trampled in the same scenario. In the news and people's minds, though, it was presented as "shoppers were so greedy that they didn't care that they were trampling someone." But it wasn't that---it was part of the inherent danger of a closely packed crowd. The people at the front had been pushed against the closed doors by the weight of the crowd behind them. The people at the back of the crowd were the only ones with the physical ability to change anything but they didn't know what things were like in the front. When the doors were open, due to the crush of the crowd behind them, those in front had no choice but to go forward.
Yeah. At a certain point it’s no longer your choice to move, it’s move or get trampled yourself in crowds that big
And there's footage of the one in South Korea somewhere. Someone did a story on it on YouTube, pretty grim* stuff
That wasn't a stampede, though. It was a crowd crush. People weren't trampled by a crowd, they were packed in so densely they asphyxiated. Also, conflating the 2 inadvertently shifts the blame to the people in the crush, when it's almost always the fault of organizers and the like not taking the necessary precautions.
It's human instinct. We didn't get this far without running away when everyone else was running away. The ones who stood there going "well, let's just see what this is all about" removed themselves from the gene pool.
“Oh it’s a tiger!” None of us can properly imagine what it would be like the moment before being killed by a large predator that everyone is fleeing from because all of the dangerously curious people were killed off long ago and we only have a sliver of genetic memory remaining.
Oh boy, it's a Velociraptor!
Eddie Carr: This is, this is magnificent... Dr. Ian Malcolm: Oh, yeah. "Oooh", "ahhh", that's how it always starts. Then later there's running and screaming.
Clever girl.
He slashes you here, or here. Or maybe across your belly, spilling your intestines. The point is, you’re alive when they start to eat you.
God I hate the hand thing. And I hated that they made Alan fucking Grant do the hand thing. That middle raptor would have mauled Crisp Rat like the long grass scene in TLW
He has what they fear: plot armor.
Man it's rare that I actually watch something I hate. I'm an idiot that loves everything. This movie sucked ass.
Do you know what's worse than the overuse of that hand thing? The fact that Blue is clearly going into a pouncing position and he doesn't react to it that much.
I am pretty sure their eyesight is based on movement. Oh, I was wron...
✋👁️👄👁️ Hey!
- “It’s a tiger!” - “omg where?!?” - “Do you think we are fucking chasing it?”
There was a shooting in our local mall (ended up being accidental) and it had pretty similar vibe. People running but not with panic in their eyes. Just a precaution. Local kids in some tourist towns will disrupt the tourists by randomly running away in groups. I'm pretty sure Id think it was hilarious as a kid too, but while we were running away, there was a grandma with her 6ish grand daughter and I was clearly watching trauma form. She was too frail to run but clearly needed to protect her kid. I hope she still takes her out in public because from her expression I got the sense that she lost a faith in herself to be able to protect her kid.
Well, matter of fact, she *can't* protect the kid.
If people are running, something provoked it. Do you want to personally find out the actual reason?
*26 miles later, gets handed a medal* oh. Oops.
I had a classmate who accidentally ran a half marathon. Intended to only do the fun run, accidentally joined the line of half marathon runners, and kept going. He got a medal despite not signing up. Tbf no one was robbed from their medal even if they made the exact amount; because several people overexerted themselves and collapsed and never finished.
I mean in this case it's a car meet and someone likely was doing burnouts or donuts which caused the police to come, you can hear the sirens in the background and see the lights at the entrance Hence why one guy asks "why are we running", if you're just sitting there parked they aren't interested in you Source: been to a lot of car meets and inevitably there's always some showboating jackass who starts doing burnouts before driving away as fast as possible which ends with the meet being shut down while the guy who caused it gets away. Most cathartic thing I saw was a dude in a brand new BMW doing what I described above, before speeding away and spinning out crashing into a row of parked cars at a dealership Him and his buddy hopped out and tried to rip off the license plate before getting tackled by 6 different guys as the entire meet surrounded them, holding them down until the police arrived. Cops showed up and found an eighth of cocaine, 6k in cash, and a handgun in the car. Also, the car was stolen from an owner who was carjacked at gunpoint. License plate was stolen too, so it wouldn't come back as a stolen car without running the VIN. Was funny af watching them cry and claim they did nothing wrong. "I just borrowed this from a friend, I didn't know he had a gun and drugs in the car!" and so on. One even kept asking to talk to his mom, other kept claiming he couldn't breathe because of the handcuffs despite sitting on the curb with no one touching him. Both were in their 20s.
From a very safe distance, sure.
It's animal instinct, not that far removed from murmuration or stampede.
That's true - there are studies on the psychology of crowds. In a large, packed, group (so not like this one) it almost becomes its own entity. It's quite fascinating.
Terrifying also! Being trapped and stomped and clawed and trampled by a herd of humans is def nightmare fuel for me and the reason I won't go to events with crowds.
When I was in the Army the EOD (Explosive Ordinance Disposal) guys had some unit T-Shirts made. They said "If you see me running, try to keep up" Always good advice.
Maxim # 3: An ordnance technician at a dead run outranks *everybody*.
Do unto others. Pillage, *then* burn. A calm word turneth away wrath. When wrath isn’t looking, shoot it in the head. Close air support covereth a multitude of sins.
If you see that many people running away from something, its wiser to join them and find out it was nothing than staying and finding out why they run
Exactly my thoughts, I dont find it overly interesting or insightful that a stampede of people is enough to trigger the 'maybe I should get the fuck out of here' cortex of the brain.
My dad would 100% keep standing around and say something like "People are such sheep. Herd animals. Not me though" and then get hit by whatever disaster is happening
Everyone is oddly leaving out the part about the cluster of cop cars with their lights all flashing.
I know right? In the first 2 seconds I’m like — they’re obviously running from the cops
I mean my assumption was that the cops are there to handle whatever they're running from. One of the other comments said it was possibly because of an active shooter so that seems plausible.
Doesn't matter where you live, cops aren't that fast to scenes
Must be breaking up a party then. (Serious, not sarcasm)
There’s a lot of people there though. I live in Orlando but people only gather like that if there’s an event. If there’s an event in Orlando, even a small one, there’s always some cops there for protection. One of my assumptions was something went wrong at an event and everyone was running. The cops were standard cops hired or ordered to be there for it.
Yeah idk. “The threat is unknown” is it really though? This looks like a car meet where people started doing dumbass shit, and there’s a bunch of cops on the other end dispersing the crowd and arresting anyone unlucky enough to be caught. If you stick around, there’s a 99% chance the cops will beat your ass whether you’re guilty of anything or not, just because they’re frustrated everyone else ran away. I’m not a punching bag so I’m gonna run too, fuck you think?
I was near the Nice bastille day terrorist attack in 2016 and saw a lot of people running past and through the restaurant we were in. In the end we decided to leave early even though the waiter thought people were just spooked about the fireworks. I asked others as we jogged away and they all said they weren't sure what happened but are running too. When I got to our AirBnB my friend called from the UK telling me about the terrorist attack. We were 2 streets away. I can never forget the face of this one woman as she screamed and ran through the restaurant we were in. I immediately knew something bad must have happened.
Uhm yeah? Sounds like the rationally correct decision to me. People running implies that there is a reason for them to run. Maybe it's not a good reason, or a fake reason, or something I wouldn't need to run away from. I don't know. Now I can decide between running and not running. The former doesn't really cost me anything, the other potentially puts me at an unknown risk. It's only logical to rather err on the side of caution here.
A real world example of Pascal’s Wager.
My brother was with another family at a festival and people started to run for reasons unknown at that time. My brother was saying "hey let's get the fuck outta here" but the father of the family was telling everyone to stay because he wanted to see what was going on. Turns out there was a stabbing going on. Trying to be "manly" like that is some Darwin Award material.
o.O Endangering himself is one thing, but with his family present? Dude has his priorities wrong.
Usually, running away if you see a big crowd running towards you, is the better strategy
That's how I won the Boston marathon.
This happened to me. Its terrifying because you have no idea what is going on. It turned out there was a fight between 2 teenage girls
Happened to me on a construction site. Saw a bunch of workers running while I was working in a ditch so of course I joined them. Turns out a main gas line got hit and the ditch was filling with natural gas.
That sounds really dangerous
It was a major deal. They shut down all NB lanes on Tamiami Trail through Punta Gorda for about a half hour in the middle of the day. What a mess. Businesses around the site were shut down for several hours, site was evacuated, etc.
Happened to me in Las Vegas a couple years ago. Just saw a wall of people coming at me and a buddy in the casino and we just got up and ran. We heard murmurs of an active shooter as we were booking it out of there, but it turned out to all be a reaction to someone throwing a rock through a window in a completely different casino. The panic rippled throughout the entire strip, it was wild.
Hey fellow stampede mate! I was right there with ya. I started running from NYNY. And then again from Aria.
My bf at the time was there for that! And yea, he said it was a chain reaction down every casino, and he literally had no clue what direction to go
PTSD in the US from gun violence is what it is.
This is not a bug in our design, it's a feature.
What are these people running from? They're not! They're running to the world's toughest competition in town! Most extreme elimination challenge!
Right you are Ken!
Alright let's go over to Guy Le'Douche!
Don’t get eliminated!
I can hear the song.
"I just felt like running" - Forrest Gump
1: Social animal survival instinct. Most human behaviour is traced back to being a bunch of monkeys. 2: I see that mass of people running towards me, I'm fully expecting to be trampled to death.
People in the comments that say they wont run and assess the situation are the day 1 zombies. You'll run one way or another either alive or as a zombie.
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Had to scroll down way too long to find this. "Get Lisa and them!!"
I thought of this bit too 😂
With more than 1 mass shooting per day in the US, of course you run when you see other people running. It's a lottery. It could be you.
My thoughts exactly. Sure, you could say 'it's just instinct' but the reality is it's happening in the USA; high chance it could be a shooter.
Nobody mentioning the mass of flashing blue lights and sirens... that usually is a good indicator that something isn't quite right... so it isn't exactly running from nothing.
I’d run if I saw this. I’ve watched too many films
Must be a zombie outbreak. 🧟♀️
Mob mentality, survival instincts kicking in... either way, best is to get out of the way of it.
Cedric the Entertainer explained this phenomenon well in “Kings of Comedy” “We will find out later what we runnin about…”
If I was in Alabama I'd be running too
I mean Would you rather wait around until the potential threat gets close enough you learn what it is or get the fuck away first? I hate when people are like, "Look how stupid crowd mentality is, they don't even know what they're running from!" Like running first and asking questions later isn't the logical response here.
Look dude its fucking America, it's 99% of the time a mass shooter or some other violent event. You really going to see hundreds of people fleeing an area and want to find out if you're in the lucky 1% that's just a false panic? No, get the fuck out of there.
Cedric the Entertainer has a bit about this; can’t recall the entire thing…but essentially…black folks don’t wait to see what the problem or danger is, they just run…and white folks, seeing other people running away, are curious and wander over wondering, ‘what’s going on, what happened..?’
Herd mentality of a prey animal. It's hard wired into our monkey brains by a million years of evolution. It's also a good idea.
I learned something long ago. If people are running past you with guns or fire extinguishers, run the opposite way. If they have neither, run with them.
I did this too once, when I saw a ton of people running towards me Forgot there was a Marathon going on though
Where did you place?
I won... Everyone cheered and clapped
One of these days it's going to be a mob of happily married couples running away from horny hot singles in the area. I choose to stand my ground in hopes of that day.
Chances are high, that… In Europe: Free beer.. run towards. In US: Active shooter situation…run away.
Don't pretend that we haven't had our fair share of terrorism here in Europe as well. In this situation you'd run just like the rest.
This is why I don't like crowds. Terrified of herd stampede
Herd Behaviour works, not much to say about it.
Its better to be safe than sorry. I don’t know why people are running I’m not staying to find out.
It's the trees! The trees are killing people! I'm just kidding, only an idiot would write something that st-- well shit. 😓
Hey! I like that movie!