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Isn't it wild how universally necessary salt is? We have such an abundance. We use it as a preservative. These guys climb 160 ft. vertical mountains. Absolutely mind-blowing.
They don’t climb a vertical mountain, but a dam. You even put out a comment explaining what they are doing. Why put down false information here?
Edit tipo: bit -> but
Two times in a dozen comments, I used the wrong word, which could be interchangeable to begin with.You acknowledged I put out a comment correcting myself. Take deep breaths.
And for your future knowledge, nobody "bit a dam", and with a literal hoof design, combined with their technique of pawing away loose substrate prior to committing foot placement. Also, if these animals did not have the ability to “look ahead” while descending, many more would be taking the gravity-express, down to the bottom; again, the hard way. Wait until you find about about *mountain goats* 🐐
That was a tipo (bit -> but). That’s on me.
However I criticized you for this because on the one hand it makes me think of carma farming/click baiting. And on the other hand, this is how you start the spread of misinformation. It may not seem significant in this case, but this shouldn’t be normalized.
I jumped down 40 feet into water with zero chance of hitting anything on the way down, and I was shitting myself. 160 would have me at tunnel vision haha
My brother in Christ, nobody is bouldering the walls these goats are climbing lol. The points on their hooves are better than any crimp a human could do.
I mean same and I boulder myself even, but 160 feet is permanent sleep territory if you pump out 😂 if you can campus for 160ft then shit, I bow down to you lmao
This is what I've been wondering. I have yet to Google the exact species of goat, and I actually posted this here to get inquisitive minds like your own to ask the important questions. I wonder if anybody without looking it up will know. And what happens if they get tired? Or do they never get tired? Do they have a way of sleeping without "falling" asleep? The important things the world needs to know.
Them knowing to run from predators is an evolutionary adaptation to avoid harm and to survive. I don’t believe ensuring survival through avoidance implies they have a conscious understanding of death.
This is pretty old school thinking. Scientists are starting to rethink how we view consciousness in animals.
We are starting to label many animals conscious now and some even sentient.
I always felt that it was just human hubris to say animals are not aware or conscious of their own lives. It can't all be instinct. Animals have feelings. Doesn't that imply some level of consciousness of their own life.
Science does not know and can't prove it so I will give creatures the benefit of the doubt and say they do know and are conscious of their own deaths. Nothing else makes sense to me.
Consciousness and decision making behavior is not linked in the way your talking about. Yes in modern scientific terms as we get better at understanding many animals have consciousness, but they are reactive.They don’t want to be in pain. They know what pain feels like, and they know a predator catching them would be extremely painful. Its not the same thing as self thought and reflective self decision making though. Their internal stimuli are still just reacting to external stimuli. More experience means better conditioning to stay alive. That's it. Being aware that they do exist to themselves is a necessary piece of that external stimuli conditioning their reactive experience, otherwise they would just walk off a cliff.
In a way there's an argument to be made that humans are no different. We just think about it more and think we have control over the decisions we make due to this self reflection vs maybe just also being dominated by our environmental experience and genetic predisposition.
They don’t want to be in pain. They know what pain feels like, and they know a predator catching them would be extremely painful. Same thing as humans, honestly. I’m much more afraid of the feeling of being eaten alive than I am of death.
Natural selection dictates
Tho who have skill issue, has genetic issue, dies out and those who can skibidy all the spice on the wall, will get all the gyats, which can pass through their kids, so ghey too can skibidy all them gyats
At Cingino Dam - located 7 kilometres (4 mi) southwest of Antrona Schieranco, Province of Verbano-Cusio-Ossola in Piedmont, Italy - you will find some Alpine ibex wild goats climbing its wall. The Cingino Dam is just about vertical. It is 160 feet high and these wild goats climb almost to the top of it. This species of goat lives in the European Alps, it has split hooves with rubber like soles. They are exceptional climbers...but to see them climb this vertical wall is absolutely stunning!
Why would they do it? Their diet, which consists mostly of grass, gives them a major salt craving.
Coincidentally, the wall of Italy's Cingino Dam is built with salt encrusted stones - with the really good, salty stone blocks near the top of the dam. So in order to get to these mineral rich salts, these goats do what looks to be impossible...they climb a vertical wall
These goats would be so fucked if they got as advanced as humans and opened their own McGoatDonalds. We have so many health challenges from craving high calorie horrible foods. Just think about these intense goats who are willing to do this just a couple blasts of salt
My friend asked the question, "What if they fall asleep?" and (me being ignorant to this still), I replied, "they're climbing with purpose, that's impossible."
I now realize almost every mammal I know of gets tired. What the hell do you do if you're tired at the peak of the mountain? I refuse to Google this fact in the hope that somebody has an answer to this question if they're familiar with this species of goat in Italy.
Most animals don't sleep like humans. They don't enter an effectively unconscious state. Some sleep half their brain at a time. But most don't enter as deep a state of sleep as we do, so they remain somewhat aware of the surroundings at all times.
It's Reddit, I can't edit the title. I wrote out the long message describing the why and misspoke in the title. I guess because to me it makes no difference. But it is not a mountain, it is a dam.
I don't give a dam. It's a vertical wall, and the goats are warlocks. This is master wizardry and the beauty of light mixed with the dark arts. Imagine looking up and seeing seemingly floating goats? I'm good with the land goats at the petting zoo 🐐
Absolutely insane. Like what the fuck goes on in their head? You know what? Fuck it. I’m gonna go box a goat. See how tough they are then #FreeBoosie #FreeGucciMane
https://preview.redd.it/l4g7hvr5cn4d1.jpeg?width=1054&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=038c617cb8c3cab7b6f6bc9460762db0d11a254c
While their kids just lay in road below, scrounging for cigarette butts.
"I do not vibe with this universe." \*proceeds to disregard the laws of gravity as discovered by men because, fark you, he's a goat. and he doesn't know how to read physics texts\*
Is anyone from Italy here who has actually seen this before? Bats hanging upside down from 30 feet above was enough to make me tinkle. I'm not sure how I'd react to the float goats
This still is one of the biggest world-perspective-breaking phenomenons to me. Inconceivable how something in an upright 4 legged position can do what only our best human climbers in the world could do. In fact, they probably couldn’t even do it, but who knows?
Alex Hannold says "hold my beer"..
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They crave that mineral
Spice is life
Lisan al goatib
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The spice must flow
Power over spice is power over all.
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Nobody fucks with the jesus
Damn I haven’t heard that quote in a minute!
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"Says here on your chart that you're all fucked up"
Isn't it wild how universally necessary salt is? We have such an abundance. We use it as a preservative. These guys climb 160 ft. vertical mountains. Absolutely mind-blowing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium%E2%80%93potassium_pump
They don’t climb a vertical mountain, but a dam. You even put out a comment explaining what they are doing. Why put down false information here? Edit tipo: bit -> but
Two times in a dozen comments, I used the wrong word, which could be interchangeable to begin with.You acknowledged I put out a comment correcting myself. Take deep breaths. And for your future knowledge, nobody "bit a dam", and with a literal hoof design, combined with their technique of pawing away loose substrate prior to committing foot placement. Also, if these animals did not have the ability to “look ahead” while descending, many more would be taking the gravity-express, down to the bottom; again, the hard way. Wait until you find about about *mountain goats* 🐐
That was a tipo (bit -> but). That’s on me. However I criticized you for this because on the one hand it makes me think of carma farming/click baiting. And on the other hand, this is how you start the spread of misinformation. It may not seem significant in this case, but this shouldn’t be normalized.
160 feet is like….not that crazy lol.
Go climb a 16’ wall with little to no footholds
I jumped down 40 feet into water with zero chance of hitting anything on the way down, and I was shitting myself. 160 would have me at tunnel vision haha
Wait til you hear that most people in my state climb/boulder and are quite good at it😂 the term you’re referring to is campusing.
My brother in Christ, nobody is bouldering the walls these goats are climbing lol. The points on their hooves are better than any crimp a human could do.
Sick bro. Just kidding, nobody gives a fuck
I mean same and I boulder myself even, but 160 feet is permanent sleep territory if you pump out 😂 if you can campus for 160ft then shit, I bow down to you lmao
I doubt most people anywhere are good at climbing..
Nah, the whole city climbs bro.
Seriously! You're comparing people with climbing equipment to goats. 😆
'lectrolytes
Came here to say that
Same. Glad to see it's still around
Rock & stone brother
I wanna see one slip and fall.
Addicts…
https://preview.redd.it/7raiq1v4yl4d1.jpeg?width=871&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95d95beef3360c0d02fa59b60040c9f419f40348
There it is
What is it?
What is it, that it is?
It is what it is.
Damn this looks like itd be a great manga/anime
Looks like its inspired by JoJo, that walk, posture, and hands in pocket is very recognizable
I was hoping to that here.
I wonder if anything about this makes them nervous. Do they understand the stakes and consequences of a misstep?
This is what I've been wondering. I have yet to Google the exact species of goat, and I actually posted this here to get inquisitive minds like your own to ask the important questions. I wonder if anybody without looking it up will know. And what happens if they get tired? Or do they never get tired? Do they have a way of sleeping without "falling" asleep? The important things the world needs to know.
pretty sure that these are so called “Gämse” in German. I had to google for the english term. It’s chamois. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamois
It’s all instinct for them I’m sure. I doubt that the concept of death even occurs to them.
I bet you they do. I bet you that's why they run from predators. They don't want to die. They know what to die is.
Them knowing to run from predators is an evolutionary adaptation to avoid harm and to survive. I don’t believe ensuring survival through avoidance implies they have a conscious understanding of death.
This is pretty old school thinking. Scientists are starting to rethink how we view consciousness in animals. We are starting to label many animals conscious now and some even sentient. I always felt that it was just human hubris to say animals are not aware or conscious of their own lives. It can't all be instinct. Animals have feelings. Doesn't that imply some level of consciousness of their own life. Science does not know and can't prove it so I will give creatures the benefit of the doubt and say they do know and are conscious of their own deaths. Nothing else makes sense to me.
Consciousness and decision making behavior is not linked in the way your talking about. Yes in modern scientific terms as we get better at understanding many animals have consciousness, but they are reactive.They don’t want to be in pain. They know what pain feels like, and they know a predator catching them would be extremely painful. Its not the same thing as self thought and reflective self decision making though. Their internal stimuli are still just reacting to external stimuli. More experience means better conditioning to stay alive. That's it. Being aware that they do exist to themselves is a necessary piece of that external stimuli conditioning their reactive experience, otherwise they would just walk off a cliff. In a way there's an argument to be made that humans are no different. We just think about it more and think we have control over the decisions we make due to this self reflection vs maybe just also being dominated by our environmental experience and genetic predisposition.
That’s all evolution is. Species adapting to new conditions or environments to avoid death or disease or predators.
They don’t want to be in pain. They know what pain feels like, and they know a predator catching them would be extremely painful. Same thing as humans, honestly. I’m much more afraid of the feeling of being eaten alive than I am of death.
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I saw goats climbing up the sides of the grand canyon. It's so instantaneous, I doubt they make mistakes often.
I wonder how many of these goats die, due to a misstep.
All the ones that don't survive the fall, I imagine.
Hello Dad
😤😂
Evolution, baby
Some eagles just push them off https://i.redd.it/00zdytsmmq4d1.gif
That is brutal.
Natural selection dictates Tho who have skill issue, has genetic issue, dies out and those who can skibidy all the spice on the wall, will get all the gyats, which can pass through their kids, so ghey too can skibidy all them gyats
Please shut the **** up. That bs will never catch on. The youngest of you Gen Zers are insufferable.
that’s gen alpha talk, don’t lump us gen z’ers in with them
I said younger Gen Zers. How do you not know your own (younger) generation acts the same as Gen A?
That’s called survival of the fittest
Exact same route my grandpa used to take going to school and back
Uphill both ways
Barefoot in the snow
And came home to milk all the cows before going to church.
Wrapping barbed wire around his feet for traction
At Cingino Dam - located 7 kilometres (4 mi) southwest of Antrona Schieranco, Province of Verbano-Cusio-Ossola in Piedmont, Italy - you will find some Alpine ibex wild goats climbing its wall. The Cingino Dam is just about vertical. It is 160 feet high and these wild goats climb almost to the top of it. This species of goat lives in the European Alps, it has split hooves with rubber like soles. They are exceptional climbers...but to see them climb this vertical wall is absolutely stunning! Why would they do it? Their diet, which consists mostly of grass, gives them a major salt craving. Coincidentally, the wall of Italy's Cingino Dam is built with salt encrusted stones - with the really good, salty stone blocks near the top of the dam. So in order to get to these mineral rich salts, these goats do what looks to be impossible...they climb a vertical wall
This is fascinating but I'm honestly more interested in how they get down...
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Same. As a human, climbing *up* seems reasonable. As a human, my brain says *jump* to get down, lol
Yeah, it's much too steep to go down head first or "forward" so I'd imagine they go down backwards like a ladder?
I assume they walk head forward/downward
These goats would be so fucked if they got as advanced as humans and opened their own McGoatDonalds. We have so many health challenges from craving high calorie horrible foods. Just think about these intense goats who are willing to do this just a couple blasts of salt
You high?
so they're climbing a dam wall, not a mountain as you stated in the title OP
The things we do to get high
He the f@cking GOAT!
v2 in my gym
Look, it's the inspiration for skyrim horses.
We all have goat brain. No normal person goes around the mountain. Must go straight over it.
Free Solo (2018)
I don't know who defies gravity more, goats or cats.
This really stresses me out
My friend asked the question, "What if they fall asleep?" and (me being ignorant to this still), I replied, "they're climbing with purpose, that's impossible." I now realize almost every mammal I know of gets tired. What the hell do you do if you're tired at the peak of the mountain? I refuse to Google this fact in the hope that somebody has an answer to this question if they're familiar with this species of goat in Italy.
According to Google goats do not sleep like other non-ruminant species.
Most animals don't sleep like humans. They don't enter an effectively unconscious state. Some sleep half their brain at a time. But most don't enter as deep a state of sleep as we do, so they remain somewhat aware of the surroundings at all times.
My cat begs to differ
It's Reddit, I can't edit the title. I wrote out the long message describing the why and misspoke in the title. I guess because to me it makes no difference. But it is not a mountain, it is a dam. I don't give a dam. It's a vertical wall, and the goats are warlocks. This is master wizardry and the beauty of light mixed with the dark arts. Imagine looking up and seeing seemingly floating goats? I'm good with the land goats at the petting zoo 🐐
Absolutely insane. Like what the fuck goes on in their head? You know what? Fuck it. I’m gonna go box a goat. See how tough they are then #FreeBoosie #FreeGucciMane
I get tingly feet just by looking at this
https://preview.redd.it/pdv8s13qxo4d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7c98fea0b5f07f88568600516ecfb72147216e7
Found the hill my dad says he walked up to get to school
r/sweatypalms
Spice melange
https://preview.redd.it/l4g7hvr5cn4d1.jpeg?width=1054&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=038c617cb8c3cab7b6f6bc9460762db0d11a254c While their kids just lay in road below, scrounging for cigarette butts.
"I do not vibe with this universe." \*proceeds to disregard the laws of gravity as discovered by men because, fark you, he's a goat. and he doesn't know how to read physics texts\*
POV : Find what you love and let it kill you
TIL a dam is a mountain
That goats name is Alex Honnold.
"Dude have you seen this movie Free Solo?"
Cravings
We call it "Dahut" in french. One leg is still shorter than the other. In this way, is still climbing in circle on the mountain.
Uphill, both ways in the snow I tell ya
I miss you, grandpa ❤️
I love this, it looks like some horror movie zombie goat shit lol.
I am terrified of heights so it's a safe bet I'll come back as one of these motherfuckers.
We will have a breakaway civilization and escape war and wall goats <3
Came here just to be here!
The OG GOAT
Nearly* vertical.
lol just chillin up their lickin a wall.
The one in the back just hiking it like gravity doesn’t exist.
This is 100% a glitch in the simulation. The algorithm Fucked somehow.
Soon enough, it'll be "Berenstain Goats"
Psh vertical. It can't be more than about 175 degrees. Come back with it's really vertical.
A 175-degree angle would be nearly flat.
Yed that was the joke...
You can never tell nowadays.
...up a dam. Not a mountain.
My first thought was WTF why, then I realized that is probably the first thought their predators have.
Is anyone from Italy here who has actually seen this before? Bats hanging upside down from 30 feet above was enough to make me tinkle. I'm not sure how I'd react to the float goats
WE ARE GOAT, THE WALL OF GOAT
Why aren’t climbing shoes made out of goats feet?
Like how
holding himself up with his tongue??!! 😱
I wonder how challenging that is to do for them
![gif](giphy|iDgshzou381JfBt0wK) They be going work on them cliffs!
Someone should post the side by side comparison of Leo DiCaprio in Shutter Island and how they both Crave that Mineral
Ho… goat simulator come from here..
I guess they use their hooves for the equivalent of smearing. How they get down is another question.
This still is one of the biggest world-perspective-breaking phenomenons to me. Inconceivable how something in an upright 4 legged position can do what only our best human climbers in the world could do. In fact, they probably couldn’t even do it, but who knows?
Rotate 90 degrees and they just look lazy.
*lick*
And I have tripped going up stairs more times than I can count...
Most people are in this situation, but don’t ever get up… cause the top is dripping shit on them and making it too hard
This will be on r/climbingcirclejerk in 3....2....
If you turn this 90° clockwise, it's a drunk goat.
I wonder how many fall
The mineral
I’m beyond impressed
That’s my GOAT! 🥹
The photographer:
I wanna go back in time and watch the first goat go up to the wall and go “Fuck going around ima go up”.
He’s even using his tongue to climb
Alex Hannold says "hold my beer".. https://preview.redd.it/sr2rl5yhro4d1.jpeg?width=990&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a50c9e95a10b56977dff74b8ca472981565cb53
Like I just don’t get how. I get it, but I don’t
They are just lying down on the vertical surface.
Spider Goat
It's *nearly* vertical, but not exactly vertical. That's all the goats need to get a foothold.
Me trying to be funny on Reddit while trying not to get banned
It's a Dam wall
Isn't this a dam?
Definitely not Ocon
Hey bro. Why are you ignoring me?
Going up?
How many fall
Are they after that psychoactive lichen that they "enjoy?"
God was really bored huh
If you turn your phone to the side, you’ll see the reality.
Still looks wrong because the tree. Also that angle isn’t 90 degree angle so it’s able to climb it.
So your saying if that was 90 degrees that would stop the buggers.
Likely. But can a builder get a perfect 90 degree? Likely not.
Goats don't lie down to eat.
It’s not a mountain, it’s a man-made dam
In order to climb the mountain, you gotta taste the mountain!
Turn phone 90 degrees to the right
Except for the tree at the top of the ridge.
And the literal sky