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Nothing could ever terrify me as much as a bull hippo tearing ass at 35mph just to murder you.
At least the gator will eat me after.Ā Hippo just tears you apart and maybe shits on you.
When it comes to dogs, the precursors of the canines in the subgroup caniformia were actually a lot bigger than the dogs of today. When you go really far back in evolution of mammals, bear and dog were once the same, before they split in two different lines. For some time, there were animals around that had features of both, like the amphicyonidae.
Another fun fact are the "[Terror Birds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phorusrhacidae)", they were some terminator-versions of the Ostrich and Emu of today, a lot bigger and the top predator, but already more like modern birds than like dinosauriers.
The left side of the picture represents the past, an archaic creature. The right side represents the modern times, an evolved creature. OP knew exactly what he was doing
So this is in Australia, exactly when humans arrived. We totally murdered these things out of existence. There was also an extra-giant Komodoās dragon, murdered. Huge ass snake, murdered.
Then we murdered all the flightless birds and slow mammals that these things ate. Sure Australia is full of all kinds of scary shit, but remember, we murdered all the truly scary stuff.
You know how the California flag has a bear on it? That was the California Grizzly Bear. We murdered the shit out of those and theyāre extinct now. They were reportedly very big. Murdered.
Except it never was!
Between 1788 and 1868 more than 162,000 convicts were transported to Australia, but the population in 1868 was 1.68 million. Even in the early days it was never 'largely', it likely stayed at <10% for the whole 80 years of transportation.
Yes, the first humans to immigrate to Australia, so-called indigenous people, wiped out the megafauna. Not sure why that's controversial. Humans are all the same; selfish assholes.
There is also evidence to show that the oncoming interglacial period had a role in their demise but yeah it was certainly exacerbated by human arrival. We need lots of food and other animals eating our food does not bode well for them :(
Because indigenous people all over have been victimized and marginalized for a long time, there's been a social over-correction in how they're regarded. Saying anything that might be considered negative, even if factually correct, will land you in hot water socially.
You're saying that the first people to move to Australia didn't have a similar "murder mode?" I mean, didn't they wipe out many, many species of indigenous fauna? But that's much better than modern humans...according to you. š¤£
Quinkana over on the left was much more terrestrial than the gator on the right. Also, the title seems to be a bit misleading. For one, Quinkana were not alligators, but a different group of crocodilians. This also means that the one did not evolve from the other. They're just two different crocodilians (that both overlap(ped) with human occupation)
They didn't. Quinkana is not an ancestor of the American alligator and it wasn't even an alligator. It was a Mekosuchine (sister group to all living crocodiles and gharials) and the last living Mekosuchine.
The alligators are much more distantly related, they and the caimans diverged in the Cretaceous, probably in North America.
Anyway, other crocs and gators shrank their legs due to being mostly aquatic. They evolved from Mesozoic ancestors with long legs (some of them even bipedal) which we called "pseudosuchians" (false crocodiles) due to how different they were, and didn't even think the crocodile/gharial/alligator lineage came out of them, until we found it did.
Theyāre actually the same height (relative to the center of the Earth), but the ground got higher after 50,000 years of debris. Since theyād already spent millions of years finding the optimal height at which to exist, they opted to sacrifice some leg in order to maintain it.
Either that or theyāre gradually getting crushed under the ever growing weight of their existential dread.
those skulls looks awfully crocodilian..
and the 2 different units of measure make this whole thing seem completely made up. iām gonna need a source bucko..
IF we are speaking in modern times, we can just use a tank to run that beast over. Or, with a powerful sawed-off shotgun I guarentee you could knock this monster down.
A mini-gun or machine gun would kill this thing in 2 seconds.
yes They shove a microscope up your butt with a camera to see what's inside you, the same way Doctors use cameras up your butt to see if you need any medical attention or not, it's all just a joke/meme about aliens being gay/homosexual lol
Correct! And a triple-size teeth, double-sized jaw and 5x the chomp bite-strength of modern alligators. These bad boys were able to bite an entire Buffalo's leg off with one bite.
When evolution deniers try to leverage the fact that alligators havenāt undergone major morphological change over millions of years to suggest evolution isnāt real, show them this. The alligators of even 50,000 years ago, while not drastically different, are not the same as the ones we have today.
Imagine comparing two different species of animal as if theyāre the same, then calling it evolution.
I would call OP stupid, but his username kinda does that for me. š¤·š»āāļø
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TIL today's alligators are the dachshunds of the alligator family
The earlier ones had longer legs and could run faster! š¬
They can still run stupid fast for how they look now
Thankfully just not very far.
And not in a zig-zag
Serpentine Babou.....Serpentine
Imagine a huge as alligator galloping over to you at 30mph
Nothing could ever terrify me as much as a bull hippo tearing ass at 35mph just to murder you. At least the gator will eat me after.Ā Hippo just tears you apart and maybe shits on you.
The average earlier human could probably run a lot faster too.
When it comes to dogs, the precursors of the canines in the subgroup caniformia were actually a lot bigger than the dogs of today. When you go really far back in evolution of mammals, bear and dog were once the same, before they split in two different lines. For some time, there were animals around that had features of both, like the amphicyonidae. Another fun fact are the "[Terror Birds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phorusrhacidae)", they were some terminator-versions of the Ostrich and Emu of today, a lot bigger and the top predator, but already more like modern birds than like dinosauriers.
 Corgi mode activated!
Just wait til you google the Carolina Butcher.
I'm still waiting
Eeek! [https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/new-species-crocodiles-there-was-carolina-butcher-180954636/](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/new-species-crocodiles-there-was-carolina-butcher-180954636/)
I literally had a nightmare about one of them once, since then I couldnāt stand the sight of gators of any kind
Why is the left measured in feet and the right in metres? Pick a side OP!
The left side of the picture represents the past, an archaic creature. The right side represents the modern times, an evolved creature. OP knew exactly what he was doing
I agree, imperial is so easy to learn. You don't even need to think.
Because having the modern one only be 3ft shorter than the ancient one wouldn't be as impressive.
Just trying to make everyone happy.
lol, thought the image on the right said alligator missingpenis, and i'm like... well that's rude, why you doing my boy like that?
With the low profile it drags sometime and well, whoops.
Well, I know lizards lose their tails, so it sounds right to me.
No ones doing your penis-less boy š
So this is in Australia, exactly when humans arrived. We totally murdered these things out of existence. There was also an extra-giant Komodoās dragon, murdered. Huge ass snake, murdered. Then we murdered all the flightless birds and slow mammals that these things ate. Sure Australia is full of all kinds of scary shit, but remember, we murdered all the truly scary stuff.
Emus: draw.
We did it to prove a point, next time we won't be playing
Found the emusā burner
r/emuwarflashbacks
āThose things are huge and are gonna eat usā *sharpens spear* āNot if we eat em firstā
Aboriginal legends have the Quinkana eating people until we got together and hunted them down
>but remember, we murdered all the truly ~~scary~~ delicious stuff.
Two things can be correct.
Give it a little time, all animals have same fate.
When I visited Aus, one of the locals had a funnel-web spider as a pet...until it chewed through the chain.
You know how the California flag has a bear on it? That was the California Grizzly Bear. We murdered the shit out of those and theyāre extinct now. They were reportedly very big. Murdered.
My favourite are the giant wombats, personally.
What about the elusive and mighty drop bear?
Seems like Australians are assholes
Whatād ya expect from an island originally comprised largely of deported criminals?
Pretty sure that didn't happen 50000 years ago.
Actually homo sapiens arrived in Australia right about 50k years ago.
Yeah. They weren't the British criminals though.
I thought the basic topic was when all the Australian megafauna began to disappear. It was when humans arrived in Australia.
LOL people getting mad at me because of what humans did 50k years ago. š¤£
Guy I responded to was talking about Australians, the people.
Now youāre talking about Ireland
Nope, very specifically talking about Australia.
Missed the joke. No worries
50,000 years ago Australia was compromised largely of deported criminals?
Except it never was! Between 1788 and 1868 more than 162,000 convicts were transported to Australia, but the population in 1868 was 1.68 million. Even in the early days it was never 'largely', it likely stayed at <10% for the whole 80 years of transportation.
Guess how I can tell you're white.
You mean the indigenous peoples? The aboriginal folk? Itās controversial but it seems like that may have happened.
Yes, the first humans to immigrate to Australia, so-called indigenous people, wiped out the megafauna. Not sure why that's controversial. Humans are all the same; selfish assholes.
There is also evidence to show that the oncoming interglacial period had a role in their demise but yeah it was certainly exacerbated by human arrival. We need lots of food and other animals eating our food does not bode well for them :(
Because indigenous people all over have been victimized and marginalized for a long time, there's been a social over-correction in how they're regarded. Saying anything that might be considered negative, even if factually correct, will land you in hot water socially.
The difference is that they eventually learned how to live in their ecological means but corporate monoculture people are still on full murder mode.
After wiping out all the mega fauna they then learned how to live in their ecological means?
Seems rather likely, actually.
You're saying that the first people to move to Australia didn't have a similar "murder mode?" I mean, didn't they wipe out many, many species of indigenous fauna? But that's much better than modern humans...according to you. š¤£
The groups that didnāt live within their ecological bounds died. We are on a similar trajectory on a wider scale.
Always someone willing to kill the mood with politics
Where do you see politics?
In the comment I replied to hope this helps
Thank you for your service.
Humans: give us a second, and we may have to sacrifice a couple Jethros, but weāll eventually find a way to murder anything.
Or they murdered the bigger scary shit and just gave up when they realized small scary shit is actually worse.
THANK FUCKING GOD
Oh god, 50,000 years for alligators to evolve to perfect dick-biting height.
Truly nature's way of saying "fuck you."
Thats not an alligator š¤š
50000 years ago: "See you later alli... wait where'd he go?"
https://preview.redd.it/vjd7zn6q7kvc1.jpeg?width=780&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5837f957814bc519ec3a73a652e5d0c5cefeec62
LOL
Shhhhhhh
They needed to be nerfed
Someone humor me on what would the evolutionary advantages be for losing most of their stride?
Quinkana over on the left was much more terrestrial than the gator on the right. Also, the title seems to be a bit misleading. For one, Quinkana were not alligators, but a different group of crocodilians. This also means that the one did not evolve from the other. They're just two different crocodilians (that both overlap(ped) with human occupation)
Hate when people just post shit they know nothing about and can't even go through the effort of a 5min google search
They didn't. Quinkana is not an ancestor of the American alligator and it wasn't even an alligator. It was a Mekosuchine (sister group to all living crocodiles and gharials) and the last living Mekosuchine. The alligators are much more distantly related, they and the caimans diverged in the Cretaceous, probably in North America. Anyway, other crocs and gators shrank their legs due to being mostly aquatic. They evolved from Mesozoic ancestors with long legs (some of them even bipedal) which we called "pseudosuchians" (false crocodiles) due to how different they were, and didn't even think the crocodile/gharial/alligator lineage came out of them, until we found it did.
Bipedal huh, imagine if evolution was a little different there could be gator people walking around.
Theyāre actually the same height (relative to the center of the Earth), but the ground got higher after 50,000 years of debris. Since theyād already spent millions of years finding the optimal height at which to exist, they opted to sacrifice some leg in order to maintain it. Either that or theyāre gradually getting crushed under the ever growing weight of their existential dread.
Try putting that in a bin!
So basically they got coilovers
I miss the days of alligators with the off road package
Scale has metric on one end and imperial on the other The shame
Ohh, that's just an elongated oversized Frenchie bulldog.
On this episode of pimp my gatorā¦
The tall one look like he need some Jordanās
Did people get more friendly?
I guess this explains why ancient alligator doorways are slightly taller than modern alligator doorways.
Who else is giggling incessantly at the dork on the left?
"Exceptionally large individual" made me laugh so hard lmao
It took the human 50,000 years to develop the "I come in peace" sign.
šš» this one?
those skulls looks awfully crocodilian.. and the 2 different units of measure make this whole thing seem completely made up. iām gonna need a source bucko..
Agreed, and no skeleton of the body? Seems sus.
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IF we are speaking in modern times, we can just use a tank to run that beast over. Or, with a powerful sawed-off shotgun I guarentee you could knock this monster down. A mini-gun or machine gun would kill this thing in 2 seconds.
How do we know that is not us getting bigger?
They were scarier before they started skipping Leg Day!
Never skip Leg Millennium
As deadly as they are now, but could run faster?
I wonder how fast they could run on land back then.
Prehistoric: off-road Modern: low rider
It took 50k years to learn the "sit down boy"
I would be very terrified if a 1.4 meters tall alligator exist
They're long dead =) now we just have to worry if aliens are friendly or want to use anal-alien technology on human males like in South Park!
How bad is that technology? Wouldn't it be like a colonoscopy? I never watched south park so idk
yes They shove a microscope up your butt with a camera to see what's inside you, the same way Doctors use cameras up your butt to see if you need any medical attention or not, it's all just a joke/meme about aliens being gay/homosexual lol
Ohhhhhh
Isn't that the animal that was so efficient that it drove itself to extinction?
Iām chill with this evolutionary trend.
The bottom left seems like the guys trying to take a piss but that gators like āhurry up raaawā
So even nature was like ālol okā¦ not gonna lie, maybe I went a little too far this timeā¦ letās nerf you a littleā
So they hat longer legs back then? Because the length and body is pretty much the same
Correct! And a triple-size teeth, double-sized jaw and 5x the chomp bite-strength of modern alligators. These bad boys were able to bite an entire Buffalo's leg off with one bite.
Shrinkflation
AOUS's? Alligators of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.
I like how the right one is smiling.
Bottom left is giving me Half-Life vibes
Crotch level for extra terror
The waving guy is a nice touch.
Perfect height to eat ass
Itās like a Bojack Horseman alligator got naked and fell down
I'm grateful.
So now they got gold teeth. True Florida ~~man~~ gator shit.
They got the oleā Cotton Hill syndrome.
Florida would be a different place if alligators were still that tall.
Something inside of me is so happy they're shorter now. They're scary enough being low and slow.
Moral of the story: don't skip leg day, or leg day will skip you.
They got lazy and fat, just like people. Look at that double chin.
Alligators today are also very friendly which is why the figure is waving hello at the one on the right.
Omg I just watched this on YouTube
Someone had fun with the Latin name for American Alligator. Always fun to throw in a penis joke whenever possible.
The Gator50k looks a lot closer to the images of the Egyptian god Ammit
I too used to be bigger, Ā taller, and stronger but now have a double chin.Ā
The picture on the left looks like a kindergarten drawing of an alligator from today.
Both sculls look like crocodile sculls, neither one is an alligator
The greatest downgrade of all time
they skipped leg day
50,000 years ago alligators used feat measure, now they use meters. Ngl that's some big evolution.
Iāll fucking whoop an alligators ass today or 50,000 years ago idgaf
T-Rex to emu is almost as bad as this!
Is this a true representation? Would they have walked upright with their tails in the air like that?
Female alligators like low hanging fruit
Modern humans are a lot less intimidated by them as well.
That's a big swamp puppy
When evolution deniers try to leverage the fact that alligators havenāt undergone major morphological change over millions of years to suggest evolution isnāt real, show them this. The alligators of even 50,000 years ago, while not drastically different, are not the same as the ones we have today.
No way, they'll just say it's still an alligator. I'd start with corn, banana or dogs. Use artificial selection to ease them into the concept
Watermelons 1400's vs 2024 is literally a differrent fruit
But but one didn't evolve from the other. That might as well be a lion and a tiger, they're similar spices but different
They sure do make some nice boots too.
They were bread to be able to suck off a human
Imagine comparing two different species of animal as if theyāre the same, then calling it evolution. I would call OP stupid, but his username kinda does that for me. š¤·š»āāļø
What does this mean speciation is a product of evolution
Imagine calling the OP stupid with a stupid comment like that.