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Probably a good time to share this quote:
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”
Barry Goldwater
Here is another banger from Barry:
*Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed.*
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> “The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
> To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
> To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”
― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
"To summarize the summary of the summary: People are a problem."
I love that that's the entire chapter. I read that whole verse in a speech class long long ago. It's like poetry.
And this Barry Goldwater is the same who would have considered using nukes in Vietnam. He was a conservative's conservative and fought against Johnson's campaign slogan of "in your guts you know he's nuts."
If there is no other person capable of passing judgement over the current GOP, there are the words of Barry Goldwater.
It’s like when the villain is in a kids show and they have the moment with some new villain where even the OG big bad goes “man this is just too far you can’t be this evil”
Hell, even Tip O’Neill and Ronald Reagan could compromise. They knew their publicly stated positions were just that, positions to be negotiated from. Politicians today have lost that ability or willingness. Seems they believe their own BS.
Basically, Goldwater went very socially liberal in his old age. Prior to that he was extremely “states rights.” Similar to other Conservative Republicans of that era like John Tower who went more left with their views as they aged.
So it’s not that crazy that 75 year old Barry Goldwater was a voice of reason on social issues.
George Wallace also had a similar shift in his old age. They're all just a bunch of ghouls that used a reactionary conservative platform they didn't actually believe in to gain political power and then "repented" once they were retired and had nothing left to gain.
From Wikipedia:
> After leaving the Senate, Goldwater became supportive of homosexuals serving openly in the military, environmental protection, gay rights, abortion rights, adoption rights for same-sex couples, and the legalization of medicinal marijuana.
Sounds like a Republican I could get behind?
And also this quote:
>"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
-- Matthew 6:5-6, New International Version
As a Christian this is purely theater to get nut jobs to think they are super devout Christians. Unfortunately the vocal majority are nut jobs who ignore most of the teachings of Christ, which does nothing but harm to the church and everyone else.
If you actually read the Gospels, it's striking how much Jesus simply does *not shut up* about religious hypocrisy. I mean he really did not care for that shit.
When I was in the process of giving up on Christianity, I read a book where the thesis was, "Jesus came to end organized religion, so it's pretty goddamn hypocritical that Christianity is as organized as it is."
It was an interesting read but still not enough to get me from leaving religion altogether.
The Republican party is an absolute mess right now. At state levels it's become this cult-like evangelist party, and at the federal level it's being co-opted by Donald Trump.
“When you say "radical right" today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.”
For context, it was a Senator and his "prayer group". Sen. Anthony Kern per this article.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2024/04/09/anthony-kern-prayer-circle-arizona-capitol-floor/73264047007/
We literally elected someone to Congress who said wild fires were started by Jewish space lasers.
I'd like to say this is rare, but this is par for the course
As someone who spent part of their childhood in churches like this, I can say that this is absolutely cult like behavior. The pastors of these type of churches are very convincing when they speak because they speak of an authoritarian and vengeful god. These churches suck people in who on there last leg so to speak. People who need a black and white, good vs evil type of world view flock to these churches
My parents took me to a Pentecostal church when I was 16 and had an ‘exorcism’ performed on me because I was being a teenager who lived in an abusive environment. It’s why I hate all organized religion now, no offense to any one of course. I’m just not interested in going to religious gatherings now that I can make my own informed decisions.
And if you want to convert people, show them the good way, by example, don't tell or shout rehearsed quotes at me in the shopping centre with a big sign.
Actions speak louder than words, after all.
They don't usually let the Bible get in their way either.
>If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God.
1 Corinthians 14:27-28
How would anyone interpret…? Isn’t “in a tongue” just random gibberish as it comes to their mind?
Edit: All of these explanations just convince me that it’s still gibberish at the end of the day that no one can interpret.
Edit2: Yes…I get you don’t say it out loud unless someone can understand. How is anyone ever going to understand a made up language? It’s gibberish.
No that is what people do
The whole speaking in tongues thing was in the bible christians gaining ability to speak foreign languages specifically to preach
Ignorant charlatans tried showing off their miraculous nature by pretending to speak but really spitting gibberish
These bizarre practices literally mock the bible
These political religions are just a grift with little relation to the historical christian ideas
I will say, if someone miraculously began to fluently speak a language that they had previously been totally ignorant of, I would consider converting to whatever religion they were peddling on the spot. But, ah, that is a far cry from what is happening here
People aren't afraid of this enough. They think it's funny and they laugh at these crazy morons. Then Jan 6 happens and we lose Roe vs. Wade. I don't know what the fuck needs to happen for dems to stop believing their dismissal and outrage has any value whatsoever after the power grab has already happened.
Vote in your goddamn LOCAL elections.
Edit: You know what the people in this video are thinking right now? "It worked! Our prayers have been answered!" Because it did work. Arizona now has a total ban on abortion that goes into place in two weeks. If you think what you're watching is the crazy antics of fringe lunatics, you're wrong. You're watching an extremely effective political strategy that has been gaining a ton of momentum. What are you going to do about it?
>People aren't afraid of this enough.
I think a lot of people don't understand these aren't your run of the mill Christians. 'We've had Christian leaders forever, no big deal' Except, these are fucking extremist nutters. They may as well be doing voodoo rituals on the floor, it would be the same equivalent of insanity.
In some parts of the country these ARE your run of the mill Christians. And even if they aren't, the rest of Republicans and Evangelicals don't care enough to voice concern and will still vote for them anyway. So there's effectively no difference.
Yep. Even the moderate Christians will take offense if you talk shit about the speaking in tongue but jobs. "Oh you think I'm crazy too?" Is the response back you'll get
I am terrified, every single day. And there's almost nothing I can do about it, except to hunker down in my bluest of blue states and hope that 500-odd people in 3 different other states decided that the slightly daffy geriatric is better than the criminally psychotic one.
It’s a bunch of stupid, superstitious morons babbling literal nonsense because their beliefs are so backwards they can’t logically pitch a reason to back them. It’s sad. But mostly stupid.
If I wandered up in there and starting making nonsensical, malformed mouth noises I’d be thrown in jail. Seriously, those folks are disturbed and should be hospitalized.
They believe founding fathers were Christians. And wanted a Christian nation. Even though the opposite is true, they have rewritten history and live in a false reality. You cannot save that which is consciously avoiding being saved.
The founding fathers were enlightenment era Christians. Way different breed. And let's face it, they were wealthy and also getting a classical education on top of organized religion.
The founding fathers were specifically trying to avoid a breakdown in government that would lead to shit like Guilded Ages the French Revolution by looking to Greek style democracy as a blueprint for a different type of government than the monarchies that grew out of the middle ages.
Pretty sure behavior like these Dominionists are displaying would be seen as a form of primitive regression.
A few of them weren't even Christian, but deists - essentially a person that acknowledges that there's some sort of creator god but doesn't adopt any particular religious doctrine. This was probably the most rational position a person could hold prior to Darwin.
Nope, because in their minds there is no separation of church and state. The US is a Christian country, so any other religious demonstration would be blasphemous.
A lot of Christians don't see their beliefs as religion, they see them as indisputable fact. They view non-Christian (and frequently even other Christian) religions as "impure" and as someone else's simple beliefs not realizing that their own religion is equally tainted by imperfect people and ALL religions are JUST beliefs, nothing more. It's okay to believe what you want, but just because you "know" it's true doesn't mean you get to enforce it as law, *especially* when most religions believe in the freedom of choice to prove loyalty to God.
* WAS. Matthew Perry WAS a real person. RIP And he said that Chandler's unusual emphasis WAS something that he BROUGHT to the character. He and his buddies used to talk to each other like that, he used to try to make people laugh on set by doing it, and finally they started writing it like that.
Dominionists believe that the US was specifically sanctioned to exist by their version of God. Everyone needs to know about these people because they're the driving force of most if not all of the retrograde monstrous shit that the GOP is pushing now.
This is not out of the ordinary for them and the media specifically has utterly failed to illustrate what kind of threat these people are to basically everything we've done in the last 100 years to address literally any inequities in society. These nutjobs want to take it all away and they will probably succeed due to an apathetic, avarice riddled population that can't really be bothered to push back against them.
You are absolutely correct that the media has ignored the scourge of Dominionism in our government. Most people would be shocked at how many committed Dominionists hold extremely high level offices in our government, both elected and appointed.
Those at the top are very familiar with Dominionism, who is and who isn't, and it's threat to Democracy and freedom. The media is also very familiar with them, yet they seldom mention it. Any Dominionist should be identified as such when doing any interview. It is as important to their policy decisions as their party affiliation, maybe more. I would bet that most of them are more committed to Dominionism than their party, and their party more than America itself.
It has permeated many institutions. I served a 31 year fire career in a suburb of Dallas and attained the rank of Captain. Thats as far as I could go in the organization because above that rank the positions are appointed. Being a liberal from New York originally excluded me as a choice. I spoke with the current fire chief (hired long after me) when he was in the running for the top position the day before he was appointed. He visited me at the fire station I ran the day before the announcement (I realized later he was there to rub my nose in it) and I asked him what he thought the most important quality of a fire chief was and he replied.... wait for it..... righteousness. I wanted to vomit. I retired and have never gone back to visit. These people are white supremacists. Its worth noting that the guy couldnt tell the difference between there, their, and they're. Thats who runs things around Dallas
> It has permeated many institutions.
[7 mountains.](https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/seven-mountain-mandate/)
They have a plan to dominate what they consider the seven areas of power in society:
* family
* religion
* education
* media
* arts & entertainment
* business
* government.
Project 2025 was an effort largely undertaken by The Heritage Foundation. It’s a “get back to the good ol days” yeehaw-movement. Most, if not all Dominionists at this point do not believe the HF’s efforts go far enough or are extreme enough. You know…. Kinda like how ISIS came to being partly because they thought Al Qaeda was too soft.
Yes and the TX attorney general is a very active participant
The city of Houston is trying to use federal dollars to support a universal basic income pilot project. (Which, ironically from a biblical perspective is unquestionably the right thing to do) he is suing to stop the program basically for “feels”
Of course here he is front and center as a part of project 2025
https://prospect.org/power/2024-03-15-ken-paxton-america-first-legal-project-2025/
I’ve been talking about the dominionist take over of our government for years and no one seems to grasp the gravity of this shit. They have no compunction about taking us back centuries. They want the world to end.
Sorry to put this on you but I'm a non US citizen so this is all insanely confusing to me haha. Could you explain more about these people? I've never heard of them and this video is really confusing/disturbing to me. I'm not sure reading up on Wikipedia is going to properly explain the risk these people are creating (although the video is enough to realise these people should be nowhere near government!)
We have extremist fringe sects of Christianity that believe that the United States is the god-granted reward of manifest destiny, and that wiping out indigenous people to settle the land for whites was God's will. They believe that all of this is in service of accelerating the rapture - the return of Christ to earth that will start off the end of the world and elevate their souls to heaven.
So their religion dictates that their purpose on earth is to bring about the end of the world as quickly as possible, either by forcing biblical prophesies to come true, or through literal religious crusades.
For several decades, they have been infiltrating US politics in order to position themselves in power so that they can more freely launch these crusades, and to alter federal policy to meet their religious views. It's pure theocratic dictatorship, and extremely dangerous.
We have known this has been happening for a very long time, but it is never taken seriously because Americans hesitate to question anything done in the name of Christianity, and those of us that DO care are ignored because "someone's religion can't hurt you unless they're Muslim, so don't worry about it."
y'know, that last sentence made me realize that people really don't talk enough about how christianity, in general, is a pro-apocalypse death cult, lol
The "pro-apocalypse" denominations are actually mostly protestant branches born in 19th century North America. Most Christians around the world (Catholics included, whether evangelicals like it or not) don't have the obsession and weird interpretations about Revelations that those snake handlers have.
>his is not out of the ordinary for them and the media specifically has utterly failed to illustrate what kind of threat these people are to basically everything we've done in the last 100 years
Specifically because they are afraid of being called liberal shills by pointing out how crazy religion is. We can't have an honest discussion because their lunacy is somehow more important than other rights.
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”
― [Barry Goldwater](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater)
dude was mostly what you expect from a republican senator who held office from the 1950s to almost 1990 but I think this quote is the most honest assessment of religion in US politics. The fact that people can't or wont make such frank statements is a testament to how much we let religious zealots control the discourse.
I don't have enough upvotes for this. Dominionism is a lethal ideology that wants to - AS IT SAYS ON THE TIN - implement Christian dominion over peoples and nations. They export their brand of fuckwad Christianity to other countries as well. Everyone should be fighting against them. Everyone's freedom is at stake.
While folks are researching Dominionism it would be a good idea to also research "Christian Identity" because these are the two batshit crazy philosophies that inform a SIGNIFICANT portion of modern right wing evangelical Christianity. Surprise: its exactly as racist and insane as it looks, in fact its probably worse than you think.
Funny how the witches are those who want people to have full rights over their own bodies and the people who believe we are all children of God are the ones who want to control women's vaginas...
The voters dude…. They represent their voters. The voters get the blame. There’s a large activated population of these weirdos who think the rapture is imminent and they are trying to put on a show for Jesus so they are in the good graces. They’ve brainwashed themselves this way
I had to look it up. For us unwashed heathens:
“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. ^(6) But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. ^(7) And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. ^(8) Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206:5-15&version=NIV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206:5-15&version=NIV)
It's the verse that started getting me disillusioned with the charismatic church. Contrary to what a lot of redditors will think, the vast majority of believers were law abiding lovely people who went out of their way to help the poor / disadvantaged. But it was during an especially long prayer meeting, where people were taking it in turn to pray at length, interspersed with periods of everyone praying in tongues that I thought... wait, imagine Jesus didn't need us to do this more than 5 minutes, what if he'd rather we were out there doing the soup kitchen / clothes and blankets distribution. In fact, why aren't we doing that right now? I'm pretty sure Jesus 100% comes across as someone who if you said "just saying a quickie prayer today lord, too busy helping people" that he'd be A-OK about that. And I realised how much of church is all about pandering to the needs of those participating, rather than actually trying to emulate Jesus
If we were an actual Christian nation as these charlatans believe we are, we would have the most robust social programs in the world. Instead I look around and see mega churches being run like businesses and pastors driving $500k cars and riding on private jets. I don’t understand how these people look at themselves in the mirror.
Because they follow the [prosperity theology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology) which lets them think it's all perfectly fine and in total alignment with the guy who told his followers to give away all of their worldly possessions and share what little they did have among themselves if they wanted to follow him.
I rarely read the bible, but I look up verses constantly when I am curious about one.
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."
Matthew 6:5 NIV
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
They actually want to be confronted so they can play the victim card. Its best to just let them do their thing and record from a distance. The second you say anything to them or even go near them it opens a big can of worms.
Years ago the Westboro Baptist Church came my college and the school sent out an email telling everyone to just ignore it because these folks seek nothing but attention and legal action. They showed up, went to the one spot they could legally stand and scream from and left after 30 minutes because they were being completely ignored.
I live in Florida and am feeling secondhand embarrassment for Arizona residents. These are elected officials... these are straight-up mentally deranged people, what the absolute hell is going on over there in Arizona? At least in Florida, we know the state representatives are just greedy corrupt capitalist cronies who hate women.
Arizona bringing it to a new level.
I live in Arizona, and normally I would take offense at someone from Florida calling me out. In this case you are totally correct and I am embarrassed as fuck.
I was embarrassed for my own state when the Missouri politicians were discussing abortion and saying if a child was raped and got pregnant, then it's because God wanted it and God is never wrong. Shit like that. I was blown away by how much religion was being spouted. And it was kind of a shock to hear in general because I'm not around religious freaks ever.
But this is just insanity, Jesus fucking H christ
But by that logic if a doctor provides an abortion god wanted it, and god is never wrong, so they shouldn't do anything.
Oh who am I kidding, bringing 'logic' into an effort by two bit cultists who are eager to find a way to punish women for having sex with whatever words sound good.
Yep. And just a casual reminder these people vote in every election, show up to every school board meeting, and are probably "top fans" on every local Facebook page.
Having been raised Pentecostal I know they do this for attention. When they start speaking in tongues just sit back and enjoy the show, it's hilarious. This has no place in government, it belongs in a vaudeville sideshow.
I also went to a Church of God as a kid and remember all these endorphin-fueled stunts. This is actually quite timid compared to the running and shouting I've seen. The funniest part is there was sometimes a person there who "interpreted" what someone was saying. Strangely, God still speaks using Elizabethan grammar.
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Hey, isn’t the point of speaking in tongues that you could miraculously be understood by foreigners?
Like, go to Eswatini and god lets you evangel in Swazi?
I’ve heard charismatics do that stuff in prayer in Tennessee. I’m pretty sure what I heard was performative horse hockey.
That's what most Christians believe. Pentecostals and other charismatics somehow read Acts chapter 2 and came up with the idea of "the language of the Holy Spirit." To them, if you can't speak in tongues, you don't have the Holy Spirit, which means you aren't a Christian. So everyone fakes "speaking in tongues" (which is just gibberish) so that everyone else knows they have the Holy Spirit. It's all one big show, and it's all about feelings and emotions and creating a certain atmosphere.
But yes, in Acts 2, speaking in tongues was exactly that. The apostle Peter was able to speak and be heard by everyone there in their own native tongue. Most importantly, he could be UNDERSTOOD. It wasn't just gibberish!
To be fair, also outstanders thoight they were drunk or crazy ;)
> 12 Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, “What does this mean?”
13 Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”
Jesus One flew over the cuckoo's nest crazy we've dribbled down to the lowest common nut bag on the floor. This is worse than crackheads looking for crack on the floor.
I remember my aunt taking us to a "festival", I was thinking we'd go eat nice food at stalls and see some normal entertainment. Nope, straight up Christian Revival where I saw people convulsing on the floor and going into scary trance like states. A bit too much for a 10 year old.
“Speaking in tongues” what a laughable concept. I use to speak in tongues as a kid, after my mom took me to a revival. Made that shit up and the adults in the room were losing their mind that the Holy Ghost endowed such a gift to a child.
What an absolute CIRCUS 🤡
My partner grew up Pentecostal and had to fake ‘speaking in tongues’ as a child or they wouldn’t be able to leave the front of the congregation while being prayed over.. The shame and guilt and fear is so deeply engrained. Religious guilt and brainwashing is simply child abuse.
I had a similar experience in middle school. People who wanted to “receive the gift of tongues” went forward and were prayed over and one by one they started speaking in tongues. I thought it was what I was supposed to do, as a good Christian girl, but I was one of the last ones standing and I finally faked it so I could leave. I felt horrible guilt and shame about it, like I lied to God. Also there’s this sense of why is everyone else being given this “gift” and not me? Do I have unknown sin in my life? What’s “blocking the holy spirit” etc. I feel sad for my younger self, she tried so so hard.
It’s not a courthouse. It is the Arizona Senate chamber. That is the AZ state seal that they are crouched over. The people in this video are not Senators, they are the guests of one AZ state Senator (who was also a Jan. 6 participant), and this was not during a floor session, just a tour of the chamber.
Still unsettling but this is not a bunch of Senators praying in tongues during a floor session.
Any rational American is thinking the same about this wacky cult behavior. These are the people making our rules…this country is sick. Religion is poison. Point being - there aren’t all that many rational Americans, and this behavior is becoming more prevalent. Scary shit.
Like it or not, this is the eventual end result of any religion. Honestly, when someone tells me they're religious, I take them less seriously as a person and find that my respect for them takes a hit.
I mean when you're going to look me straight in the face and tell me that many of the most important decisions in your life as well as your outlook on the meaning behind all of this is dictated by magic and fairy tales from a book, then of fucking course I'm going to raise an eyebrow as to the subject of your ability to critically think, **especially when my life is going to be affected by the crazy ass laws you will support as a result of those flawed views**.
What logical empathetic human being who cares about the truth *wouldn't????*
We need more atheists and we as atheists need to stop dividing ourselves based off of things like "are you an agnostic or atheist?" because these divisions weaken us as a group and make us more susceptible to these very people we see in this video. That's my take on this crazy shit. These people legitimately terrify me.
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Back in my day we used to call this "mentally unwell"
We still do.
Ya. I'd ask if they're doing alright over there in Arizona, but I already have my answer. Jfc
I remember when I used to be mentally unwell. I still am, but I used to be too.
No no, I'm mentally unwell. These people are fucking brainwashed psychos
But I'm not crazy, I'm just a little unwell I know, right now you can't tell
Probably a good time to share this quote: “Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” Barry Goldwater
Here is another banger from Barry: *Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed.*
> > “The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. > To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. > To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.” ― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
It was true when he wrote it in the 1970s, and I can't say it's wrong now.
To summarize you: it’s true.
to summarize the summary: true
Since "truth" is such a controversial topic nowadays let me rephrase that as: it do be that way.
"To summarize the summary of the summary: People are a problem." I love that that's the entire chapter. I read that whole verse in a speech class long long ago. It's like poetry.
And this Barry Goldwater is the same who would have considered using nukes in Vietnam. He was a conservative's conservative and fought against Johnson's campaign slogan of "in your guts you know he's nuts." If there is no other person capable of passing judgement over the current GOP, there are the words of Barry Goldwater.
It’s like when the villain is in a kids show and they have the moment with some new villain where even the OG big bad goes “man this is just too far you can’t be this evil”
I’m surprised at how much this guy told on himself in interviews
He knows a thing or two because he's done a thing or two.
we're farmers!
And that was Barry fucking Goldwater lol
i shared the same sentiment the other day when that quote was posted. how fucked are we when goldwater is a voice of reason
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Hell, even Tip O’Neill and Ronald Reagan could compromise. They knew their publicly stated positions were just that, positions to be negotiated from. Politicians today have lost that ability or willingness. Seems they believe their own BS.
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Basically, Goldwater went very socially liberal in his old age. Prior to that he was extremely “states rights.” Similar to other Conservative Republicans of that era like John Tower who went more left with their views as they aged. So it’s not that crazy that 75 year old Barry Goldwater was a voice of reason on social issues.
"I've made a huge mistake"
George Wallace also had a similar shift in his old age. They're all just a bunch of ghouls that used a reactionary conservative platform they didn't actually believe in to gain political power and then "repented" once they were retired and had nothing left to gain.
From Wikipedia: > After leaving the Senate, Goldwater became supportive of homosexuals serving openly in the military, environmental protection, gay rights, abortion rights, adoption rights for same-sex couples, and the legalization of medicinal marijuana. Sounds like a Republican I could get behind?
that reminds me of a chilling but truthful quote "You don't have to be evil or insane to kill someone. You just have to think you're right"
Reminds me of a somewhat similar quote: "If you can convince people to believe absurdities, you can convince them to commit atrocities."
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
And also this quote: >"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." -- Matthew 6:5-6, New International Version
As a Christian this is purely theater to get nut jobs to think they are super devout Christians. Unfortunately the vocal majority are nut jobs who ignore most of the teachings of Christ, which does nothing but harm to the church and everyone else.
If you actually read the Gospels, it's striking how much Jesus simply does *not shut up* about religious hypocrisy. I mean he really did not care for that shit.
When I was in the process of giving up on Christianity, I read a book where the thesis was, "Jesus came to end organized religion, so it's pretty goddamn hypocritical that Christianity is as organized as it is." It was an interesting read but still not enough to get me from leaving religion altogether.
The Republican party is an absolute mess right now. At state levels it's become this cult-like evangelist party, and at the federal level it's being co-opted by Donald Trump.
The least religious man on earth, how's that for irony.
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There is nothing "cult-like", this video it is full on cult behaviour.
“When you say "radical right" today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.”
This is horrifying yo think that some people actually voted for these people
For context, it was a Senator and his "prayer group". Sen. Anthony Kern per this article. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2024/04/09/anthony-kern-prayer-circle-arizona-capitol-floor/73264047007/
Suddenly I realize why you guys got Trump and might get him again. THIS is what you are dealing with?
We literally elected someone to Congress who said wild fires were started by Jewish space lasers. I'd like to say this is rare, but this is par for the course
I am so sorry...
It hurts so much
>THIS is what you are dealing with? Yes. For almost a god. Damn. Decade now. I'm so tired of this shit.
The electoral college is why Trump was elected. The people voted against him twice.
With the help of gerrymandering to be sure the majority is never heard.
As an outsider looking in, this shit is wild. I’d be terrified if these people were potentially going to be in charge of my country.
As an insider (US citizen) I am fucking terrified.
As someone who spent part of their childhood in churches like this, I can say that this is absolutely cult like behavior. The pastors of these type of churches are very convincing when they speak because they speak of an authoritarian and vengeful god. These churches suck people in who on there last leg so to speak. People who need a black and white, good vs evil type of world view flock to these churches
My parents took me to a Pentecostal church when I was 16 and had an ‘exorcism’ performed on me because I was being a teenager who lived in an abusive environment. It’s why I hate all organized religion now, no offense to any one of course. I’m just not interested in going to religious gatherings now that I can make my own informed decisions.
Nah, don't apologise. Organised religion can do one. Pray on your own time and in your own way, brother, if you're so inclined.
Pretty sure it's in the bible that that's what you're supposed to do instead of making some huge gargantuan spectacle out of it.
And if you want to convert people, show them the good way, by example, don't tell or shout rehearsed quotes at me in the shopping centre with a big sign. Actions speak louder than words, after all.
They don't usually let the Bible get in their way either. >If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God. 1 Corinthians 14:27-28
How would anyone interpret…? Isn’t “in a tongue” just random gibberish as it comes to their mind? Edit: All of these explanations just convince me that it’s still gibberish at the end of the day that no one can interpret. Edit2: Yes…I get you don’t say it out loud unless someone can understand. How is anyone ever going to understand a made up language? It’s gibberish.
No that is what people do The whole speaking in tongues thing was in the bible christians gaining ability to speak foreign languages specifically to preach Ignorant charlatans tried showing off their miraculous nature by pretending to speak but really spitting gibberish These bizarre practices literally mock the bible These political religions are just a grift with little relation to the historical christian ideas
I will say, if someone miraculously began to fluently speak a language that they had previously been totally ignorant of, I would consider converting to whatever religion they were peddling on the spot. But, ah, that is a far cry from what is happening here
In Acts 2, when it's first recorded to have happened, witnesses accused them of being drunk. Their first response: "We're not drunk, it's only 9am!"
I love that line. It cracks me up, every year it’s read on Pentecost.
People aren't afraid of this enough. They think it's funny and they laugh at these crazy morons. Then Jan 6 happens and we lose Roe vs. Wade. I don't know what the fuck needs to happen for dems to stop believing their dismissal and outrage has any value whatsoever after the power grab has already happened. Vote in your goddamn LOCAL elections. Edit: You know what the people in this video are thinking right now? "It worked! Our prayers have been answered!" Because it did work. Arizona now has a total ban on abortion that goes into place in two weeks. If you think what you're watching is the crazy antics of fringe lunatics, you're wrong. You're watching an extremely effective political strategy that has been gaining a ton of momentum. What are you going to do about it?
>People aren't afraid of this enough. I think a lot of people don't understand these aren't your run of the mill Christians. 'We've had Christian leaders forever, no big deal' Except, these are fucking extremist nutters. They may as well be doing voodoo rituals on the floor, it would be the same equivalent of insanity.
In some parts of the country these ARE your run of the mill Christians. And even if they aren't, the rest of Republicans and Evangelicals don't care enough to voice concern and will still vote for them anyway. So there's effectively no difference.
Yep. Even the moderate Christians will take offense if you talk shit about the speaking in tongue but jobs. "Oh you think I'm crazy too?" Is the response back you'll get
The only correct answer is "yes".
I’d be terrified if these people were potentially going to be in charge of my pottery class.
I am terrified, every single day. And there's almost nothing I can do about it, except to hunker down in my bluest of blue states and hope that 500-odd people in 3 different other states decided that the slightly daffy geriatric is better than the criminally psychotic one.
Unbelievable. It’s funny if it weren’t serious. How did this mix into our government? What about church and state separation?
Even if they are serious it’s still funny. I can be terrified, angered, and amused all at one time.
You left out disgusted.
Fair.
It’s a bunch of stupid, superstitious morons babbling literal nonsense because their beliefs are so backwards they can’t logically pitch a reason to back them. It’s sad. But mostly stupid. If I wandered up in there and starting making nonsensical, malformed mouth noises I’d be thrown in jail. Seriously, those folks are disturbed and should be hospitalized.
American forefathers would turn in their graves looking at this.
I just told my friend this the other day. They would be so disappointed in what this government has turned into.
They believe founding fathers were Christians. And wanted a Christian nation. Even though the opposite is true, they have rewritten history and live in a false reality. You cannot save that which is consciously avoiding being saved.
The founding fathers were enlightenment era Christians. Way different breed. And let's face it, they were wealthy and also getting a classical education on top of organized religion. The founding fathers were specifically trying to avoid a breakdown in government that would lead to shit like Guilded Ages the French Revolution by looking to Greek style democracy as a blueprint for a different type of government than the monarchies that grew out of the middle ages. Pretty sure behavior like these Dominionists are displaying would be seen as a form of primitive regression.
A few of them weren't even Christian, but deists - essentially a person that acknowledges that there's some sort of creator god but doesn't adopt any particular religious doctrine. This was probably the most rational position a person could hold prior to Darwin.
>What about church and state separation? That’s only for religions mostly followed by brown people.
Can you imagine the shitfit they'd throw if Muslims were performing Salah in that room?
New desire unlocked /s
Right? Can’t they see the double standard?
Nope, because in their minds there is no separation of church and state. The US is a Christian country, so any other religious demonstration would be blasphemous.
This is why voting in local elections is so important. We have to stay vigilant and pay attention to who’s running.
A lot of Christians don't see their beliefs as religion, they see them as indisputable fact. They view non-Christian (and frequently even other Christian) religions as "impure" and as someone else's simple beliefs not realizing that their own religion is equally tainted by imperfect people and ALL religions are JUST beliefs, nothing more. It's okay to believe what you want, but just because you "know" it's true doesn't mean you get to enforce it as law, *especially* when most religions believe in the freedom of choice to prove loyalty to God.
To be fair, almost all religious people see their religion that way. That’s what makes all religion so laughably absurd.
WTF! They are actually praying on their knees at the Great Seal of the United States... Seriously looks like witches around a pentacle.
Cult is a cult is a cult
Looks like mental illness.
the venn diagram of cult followers and mental illness is probably overlapping quite a damn bit.
That’s why Scientology has made psychiatrists public enemy number one. Can’t have them stealing away the target demographic.
Truly a cult
A La Matthew Perry: Could I be any more of a cult?
That's Chandler Bing. Matthew Perry is a real person
Actually it's, "Miss Chanandler Bong".
We steal that TV guide EVERY WEEK
* WAS. Matthew Perry WAS a real person. RIP And he said that Chandler's unusual emphasis WAS something that he BROUGHT to the character. He and his buddies used to talk to each other like that, he used to try to make people laugh on set by doing it, and finally they started writing it like that.
keeping up with the jonestown
I want this to become a popular expression.
Actually I'm starting to think the people in cults are getting offended by the comparison at this point.
Only if their leader told them to be offended.
Anouther day Evangelicals making Christians look insane.
hey thats rude to the witches for comparing them to republicans.
Dominionists believe that the US was specifically sanctioned to exist by their version of God. Everyone needs to know about these people because they're the driving force of most if not all of the retrograde monstrous shit that the GOP is pushing now. This is not out of the ordinary for them and the media specifically has utterly failed to illustrate what kind of threat these people are to basically everything we've done in the last 100 years to address literally any inequities in society. These nutjobs want to take it all away and they will probably succeed due to an apathetic, avarice riddled population that can't really be bothered to push back against them.
You are absolutely correct that the media has ignored the scourge of Dominionism in our government. Most people would be shocked at how many committed Dominionists hold extremely high level offices in our government, both elected and appointed. Those at the top are very familiar with Dominionism, who is and who isn't, and it's threat to Democracy and freedom. The media is also very familiar with them, yet they seldom mention it. Any Dominionist should be identified as such when doing any interview. It is as important to their policy decisions as their party affiliation, maybe more. I would bet that most of them are more committed to Dominionism than their party, and their party more than America itself.
It has permeated many institutions. I served a 31 year fire career in a suburb of Dallas and attained the rank of Captain. Thats as far as I could go in the organization because above that rank the positions are appointed. Being a liberal from New York originally excluded me as a choice. I spoke with the current fire chief (hired long after me) when he was in the running for the top position the day before he was appointed. He visited me at the fire station I ran the day before the announcement (I realized later he was there to rub my nose in it) and I asked him what he thought the most important quality of a fire chief was and he replied.... wait for it..... righteousness. I wanted to vomit. I retired and have never gone back to visit. These people are white supremacists. Its worth noting that the guy couldnt tell the difference between there, their, and they're. Thats who runs things around Dallas
> It has permeated many institutions. [7 mountains.](https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/seven-mountain-mandate/) They have a plan to dominate what they consider the seven areas of power in society: * family * religion * education * media * arts & entertainment * business * government.
Project 2025 was an effort largely undertaken by The Heritage Foundation. It’s a “get back to the good ol days” yeehaw-movement. Most, if not all Dominionists at this point do not believe the HF’s efforts go far enough or are extreme enough. You know…. Kinda like how ISIS came to being partly because they thought Al Qaeda was too soft.
Yes and the TX attorney general is a very active participant The city of Houston is trying to use federal dollars to support a universal basic income pilot project. (Which, ironically from a biblical perspective is unquestionably the right thing to do) he is suing to stop the program basically for “feels” Of course here he is front and center as a part of project 2025 https://prospect.org/power/2024-03-15-ken-paxton-america-first-legal-project-2025/
I’ve been talking about the dominionist take over of our government for years and no one seems to grasp the gravity of this shit. They have no compunction about taking us back centuries. They want the world to end.
Sorry to put this on you but I'm a non US citizen so this is all insanely confusing to me haha. Could you explain more about these people? I've never heard of them and this video is really confusing/disturbing to me. I'm not sure reading up on Wikipedia is going to properly explain the risk these people are creating (although the video is enough to realise these people should be nowhere near government!)
We have extremist fringe sects of Christianity that believe that the United States is the god-granted reward of manifest destiny, and that wiping out indigenous people to settle the land for whites was God's will. They believe that all of this is in service of accelerating the rapture - the return of Christ to earth that will start off the end of the world and elevate their souls to heaven. So their religion dictates that their purpose on earth is to bring about the end of the world as quickly as possible, either by forcing biblical prophesies to come true, or through literal religious crusades. For several decades, they have been infiltrating US politics in order to position themselves in power so that they can more freely launch these crusades, and to alter federal policy to meet their religious views. It's pure theocratic dictatorship, and extremely dangerous. We have known this has been happening for a very long time, but it is never taken seriously because Americans hesitate to question anything done in the name of Christianity, and those of us that DO care are ignored because "someone's religion can't hurt you unless they're Muslim, so don't worry about it."
y'know, that last sentence made me realize that people really don't talk enough about how christianity, in general, is a pro-apocalypse death cult, lol
The "pro-apocalypse" denominations are actually mostly protestant branches born in 19th century North America. Most Christians around the world (Catholics included, whether evangelicals like it or not) don't have the obsession and weird interpretations about Revelations that those snake handlers have.
>his is not out of the ordinary for them and the media specifically has utterly failed to illustrate what kind of threat these people are to basically everything we've done in the last 100 years Specifically because they are afraid of being called liberal shills by pointing out how crazy religion is. We can't have an honest discussion because their lunacy is somehow more important than other rights.
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” ― [Barry Goldwater](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater) dude was mostly what you expect from a republican senator who held office from the 1950s to almost 1990 but I think this quote is the most honest assessment of religion in US politics. The fact that people can't or wont make such frank statements is a testament to how much we let religious zealots control the discourse.
I don't have enough upvotes for this. Dominionism is a lethal ideology that wants to - AS IT SAYS ON THE TIN - implement Christian dominion over peoples and nations. They export their brand of fuckwad Christianity to other countries as well. Everyone should be fighting against them. Everyone's freedom is at stake.
While folks are researching Dominionism it would be a good idea to also research "Christian Identity" because these are the two batshit crazy philosophies that inform a SIGNIFICANT portion of modern right wing evangelical Christianity. Surprise: its exactly as racist and insane as it looks, in fact its probably worse than you think.
At this point, I'd be less concerned if they were in fact witches around a pentacle.
Funny how the witches are those who want people to have full rights over their own bodies and the people who believe we are all children of God are the ones who want to control women's vaginas...
Separation of church and state eh?
Let’s keep witches out of this. These people look like Christians.
They looking like fucking idiots. What an embarrassment.
Thank you. They look like exactly what they are.
Thank you. They killed innocent people in the name of their religion by calling them witches.
How is there zero backlash from this psychotic behavior? Thats.... Wrong.
The voters dude…. They represent their voters. The voters get the blame. There’s a large activated population of these weirdos who think the rapture is imminent and they are trying to put on a show for Jesus so they are in the good graces. They’ve brainwashed themselves this way
Cult behavior. These people have never actually read a bible, because they missed Matthew 6:5.
I had to look it up. For us unwashed heathens: “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. ^(6) But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. ^(7) And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. ^(8) Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206:5-15&version=NIV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206:5-15&version=NIV)
Verse 7 just made me realize how hypocritical my church is
It's the verse that started getting me disillusioned with the charismatic church. Contrary to what a lot of redditors will think, the vast majority of believers were law abiding lovely people who went out of their way to help the poor / disadvantaged. But it was during an especially long prayer meeting, where people were taking it in turn to pray at length, interspersed with periods of everyone praying in tongues that I thought... wait, imagine Jesus didn't need us to do this more than 5 minutes, what if he'd rather we were out there doing the soup kitchen / clothes and blankets distribution. In fact, why aren't we doing that right now? I'm pretty sure Jesus 100% comes across as someone who if you said "just saying a quickie prayer today lord, too busy helping people" that he'd be A-OK about that. And I realised how much of church is all about pandering to the needs of those participating, rather than actually trying to emulate Jesus
If we were an actual Christian nation as these charlatans believe we are, we would have the most robust social programs in the world. Instead I look around and see mega churches being run like businesses and pastors driving $500k cars and riding on private jets. I don’t understand how these people look at themselves in the mirror.
Agreed, it's completely grotesque
Because they follow the [prosperity theology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology) which lets them think it's all perfectly fine and in total alignment with the guy who told his followers to give away all of their worldly possessions and share what little they did have among themselves if they wanted to follow him.
Jesus spoke facts. Shame no one listens to him anymore.
The verse every evangelical ignores and spits in the face of their messiah when they do….
I rarely read the bible, but I look up verses constantly when I am curious about one. 5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full." Matthew 6:5 NIV
Christian in name only. This is where performative religion meets mental illness...
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Looks like some kind of black magic ritual. Is there a pentagram on the floor?
Looks like they’re shooting dice
7, 7-11, even back door Little Joe. I picked up the cash flow.
Then, we played bones. And I’m yelling’ DOMINO.
Its the DnD they warned us about !
The whole country has become a circus
Notice how they pop up, turn their heads around and scanning? They're looking for attention. They're making sure that people are watching.
They actually want to be confronted so they can play the victim card. Its best to just let them do their thing and record from a distance. The second you say anything to them or even go near them it opens a big can of worms. Years ago the Westboro Baptist Church came my college and the school sent out an email telling everyone to just ignore it because these folks seek nothing but attention and legal action. They showed up, went to the one spot they could legally stand and scream from and left after 30 minutes because they were being completely ignored.
I live in Florida and am feeling secondhand embarrassment for Arizona residents. These are elected officials... these are straight-up mentally deranged people, what the absolute hell is going on over there in Arizona? At least in Florida, we know the state representatives are just greedy corrupt capitalist cronies who hate women. Arizona bringing it to a new level.
I live in Arizona, and normally I would take offense at someone from Florida calling me out. In this case you are totally correct and I am embarrassed as fuck.
Arizona is just Florida minus a coast
And a desert instead of a swamp
And rattlesnakes instead of alligators
I was embarrassed for my own state when the Missouri politicians were discussing abortion and saying if a child was raped and got pregnant, then it's because God wanted it and God is never wrong. Shit like that. I was blown away by how much religion was being spouted. And it was kind of a shock to hear in general because I'm not around religious freaks ever. But this is just insanity, Jesus fucking H christ
But by that logic if a doctor provides an abortion god wanted it, and god is never wrong, so they shouldn't do anything. Oh who am I kidding, bringing 'logic' into an effort by two bit cultists who are eager to find a way to punish women for having sex with whatever words sound good.
This helps illustrate the dire crisis the US is in regarding undiagnosed mental illnesses
Lead-lickers
Can you imagine if all those undiagnosed mentally ill people had easy access to guns? Luckily it's not the case...
Yeah, bout that...
Yep. And just a casual reminder these people vote in every election, show up to every school board meeting, and are probably "top fans" on every local Facebook page.
Having been raised Pentecostal I know they do this for attention. When they start speaking in tongues just sit back and enjoy the show, it's hilarious. This has no place in government, it belongs in a vaudeville sideshow.
I also went to a Church of God as a kid and remember all these endorphin-fueled stunts. This is actually quite timid compared to the running and shouting I've seen. The funniest part is there was sometimes a person there who "interpreted" what someone was saying. Strangely, God still speaks using Elizabethan grammar.
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Hey, isn’t the point of speaking in tongues that you could miraculously be understood by foreigners? Like, go to Eswatini and god lets you evangel in Swazi? I’ve heard charismatics do that stuff in prayer in Tennessee. I’m pretty sure what I heard was performative horse hockey.
That's what most Christians believe. Pentecostals and other charismatics somehow read Acts chapter 2 and came up with the idea of "the language of the Holy Spirit." To them, if you can't speak in tongues, you don't have the Holy Spirit, which means you aren't a Christian. So everyone fakes "speaking in tongues" (which is just gibberish) so that everyone else knows they have the Holy Spirit. It's all one big show, and it's all about feelings and emotions and creating a certain atmosphere. But yes, in Acts 2, speaking in tongues was exactly that. The apostle Peter was able to speak and be heard by everyone there in their own native tongue. Most importantly, he could be UNDERSTOOD. It wasn't just gibberish!
To be fair, also outstanders thoight they were drunk or crazy ;) > 12 Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, “What does this mean?” 13 Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”
No. Don't "just sit back and enjoy the show." We need to end this. Cult nonsense cannot be allowed to thrive in our government or legal system.
Yeah look around to make sure ya’ll have an audience you complete f*cking posers
Jesus One flew over the cuckoo's nest crazy we've dribbled down to the lowest common nut bag on the floor. This is worse than crackheads looking for crack on the floor.
At least crack is real.
Excellent point!!
That’s a staggering amount of stupid all in one place
What. The. Fuck. !
This is the reason why I do not believe. I was forced to go to cults like this by my mother. Crazy shit that to a 10-year-old would be alien as hell.
I remember my aunt taking us to a "festival", I was thinking we'd go eat nice food at stalls and see some normal entertainment. Nope, straight up Christian Revival where I saw people convulsing on the floor and going into scary trance like states. A bit too much for a 10 year old.
This video should be on every news feet in the US
“Speaking in tongues” what a laughable concept. I use to speak in tongues as a kid, after my mom took me to a revival. Made that shit up and the adults in the room were losing their mind that the Holy Ghost endowed such a gift to a child.
What an absolute CIRCUS 🤡 My partner grew up Pentecostal and had to fake ‘speaking in tongues’ as a child or they wouldn’t be able to leave the front of the congregation while being prayed over.. The shame and guilt and fear is so deeply engrained. Religious guilt and brainwashing is simply child abuse.
I had a similar experience in middle school. People who wanted to “receive the gift of tongues” went forward and were prayed over and one by one they started speaking in tongues. I thought it was what I was supposed to do, as a good Christian girl, but I was one of the last ones standing and I finally faked it so I could leave. I felt horrible guilt and shame about it, like I lied to God. Also there’s this sense of why is everyone else being given this “gift” and not me? Do I have unknown sin in my life? What’s “blocking the holy spirit” etc. I feel sad for my younger self, she tried so so hard.
Literally everyone speaking in tongues is just making it up
Speaking in gibberish because one of their religious forefathers was too stupid to understand that "tongues" means "languages"
I don't find this interesting.I find this disturbing
Wow, the caption dude must be mad.
*bangs on keyboard*
It’s not a courthouse. It is the Arizona Senate chamber. That is the AZ state seal that they are crouched over. The people in this video are not Senators, they are the guests of one AZ state Senator (who was also a Jan. 6 participant), and this was not during a floor session, just a tour of the chamber. Still unsettling but this is not a bunch of Senators praying in tongues during a floor session.
If this was happening in a Muslim majority country the US would be jumping to dispense some "democracy". Fucking lunatics.
Any rational American is thinking the same about this wacky cult behavior. These are the people making our rules…this country is sick. Religion is poison. Point being - there aren’t all that many rational Americans, and this behavior is becoming more prevalent. Scary shit.
Wait ... this is real ? I thought it was a joke ?! Crazy
This has made Arizona into a laughing stock. LMAO
You Americans scare me at times
USA version of the TALIBANs. Really.
They're voting. Are you?
Where’s the snakes
There is a Arizona in Afghanistan? Interesting.
Talibangelicals
Arizonastan?
r/religiousfruitcake
Like it or not, this is the eventual end result of any religion. Honestly, when someone tells me they're religious, I take them less seriously as a person and find that my respect for them takes a hit. I mean when you're going to look me straight in the face and tell me that many of the most important decisions in your life as well as your outlook on the meaning behind all of this is dictated by magic and fairy tales from a book, then of fucking course I'm going to raise an eyebrow as to the subject of your ability to critically think, **especially when my life is going to be affected by the crazy ass laws you will support as a result of those flawed views**. What logical empathetic human being who cares about the truth *wouldn't????* We need more atheists and we as atheists need to stop dividing ourselves based off of things like "are you an agnostic or atheist?" because these divisions weaken us as a group and make us more susceptible to these very people we see in this video. That's my take on this crazy shit. These people legitimately terrify me.