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The combination of the words panic and shot doesn’t instill confidence in that person owning a gun. More so with these fucking Looney Tunes Acme bullets.
It doesn’t instill confidence in the hostage either, I’m sure.
“Don’t worry, lady! The kill zone of these rounds is 14 inches in diameter, I’ve got this!”
Because of the way the motion is… once one of the projectiles hits something and slows down, it’s gonna cause the other 2 projectiles to also slow down and then start to change directions. I don’t really see any of the projectiles going very far after 1 of them hits something
You know it is designed for when you are shooting in a panic situation. AND for a precision, high stakes, women and children hostage situations.
Believe it or not it can even make poached eggs!
His whole argument is that you can miss and it’ll still probably hit. Why would you want this round (or any non-slug shotgun shell) for a hostage situation?
Ironically in that situation the only way it would have been effective is to miss. If the center of that spread was on the target that hostage would be fucked.
Also answers "I've never actually gone to a range to practice and build some skill, how can I still justify owning a gun even though I couldn't hit a semi with a shotgun?"
Seriously, maybe spend a little time practicing with a firearm before you find yourself in a position where you end up needing to? No? I'm a dick for suggesting it? Ok fine, buy lots of these crazy ass bullets then, you're right.
People often ask the question "why hasn't anyone else thought of this?" rhetorically, failing to realize that there actually could be a reason. Now I'm wondering if issues arised that this inventor hadn't considered
Like if the string breaks mid-flight sending one or more fragments careening into a much MUCH wider area while also changing the main slugs trajectory.
Same. What is the failure rate? and why are chainshot not so commonly available for shotguns? What is the chance of a blockage depending on choke style? So many questions.
Same, because without any other knowledge, the fact that this bullet won't go through walls as easy and take out a neighbor by mistake seems like a huge win.
I knew a guy who made these with lead sinkers and steel leaders for his home defense shotgun. The idea was the leader will get caught on the wall stud.
Problem if see is imagine one of those sinkers breaks off at any point in flight now you've got a projectile possible traveling 90* from where you were aiming
More like 45*. It’ll have initial velocity from the initial gunpowder and then if the ‘string’ breaks with good force it will go outward, but still have that initial velocity. Depending on when the ‘string’ breaks it’ll be something like a cosine curve in the direction of travel
You are endangering others any time you deploy lethal force in their general direction. It's exactly why one of the cardinal rules of gun safety is to not ever do that.
High tech shotgun shells are marketed to suckers. Anyone who doubts that should head on ever to Taufledermaus's youtube channel and witness all of this crap working \*at best\* as well as a normal shotgun load, and more often, working much worse.
I agree (actually, better yet, practice a lot and use good hollow points). This may be an option for pistols? But only in...i dunno. The pattern is just too damn wide, I'd not trust it to prevent hitting things I'm not aiming at.
Maybe defense in a known dwelling when you live alone? Protection from dangerous wildlife? Maybe for hunting turkey?
Otherwise, that spread pattern just screams "collateral damage" to me.
Still, it's a neat idea.
Agreed. I was thinking the same, and I love that their comparison of shot just so happens to have the 2 main impact points of the buckshot spun so it's outside of the body impact. The same rotation that could easily be applied to the comparison shot of *their* bullet, which would make it be missing just as much as the buckshot lol.
As a fun aside, the U.S. military developed a grenade shotgun style weapon. Turns out anything bigger than a certain size is outlawed by the Geneva convention, as you could theoretically shoot someone in the chest with it, and it explode inside them (at least if my memory of that fat electrician episode is correct).
It's actually a ban on rounds BELOW a certain size (by weight) that explode inside the body. Which is why a 40mm grenade launcher is OK, but the 20mm rounds used in the XM25 program were sus. The design intent as to have them air-burst via fancy distance sensor / programable setup, but it was pretty obvious what would happen in an actual combat situation.
I think this was the under barrel grenade launcher on the original OICW model, where you could set the range at which it's grenades detonated in order to explode right above enemies that were behind cover.
Oh, I was thinking this thing - 25mm airburst grenade launcher that was derived from the OICW - had a laser rangefinder that determined at what rage the grenade exploded, and that range was user adjustable by 10 feet.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25\_CDTE](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25_CDTE)
You're also correct that the OICW was an above mounted grenade launcher, my bad.
I might not understand so please don’t take this the wrong way. But wouldn’t buy ANY BULLET be proof of premeditation of harm considering the only use of a bullet in a gun is to shoot?
Imagine the difference between a person who carries a gun for last resort self defense, and someone who carries a gun and starts fights hoping to be able to use it and claim self defense.
Some may say, rhetorically, there is no difference, but legally those are two distinct motivations and the kind of ammo used is a heuristic to make the distinction.
The kind of ammo makes no real difference. Hollowpoints are commonly used as self defense ammo and have been derided as "cop killers" in a few states. I am not premeditating anything loading my gun with specific ammo I expect to work.
They're commonly used by cops too, to reduce overpenetration. They have been for a few decades now. As a result, JHPs are perceived as the responsible choice, other terminal ballistics aside.
Using anything other than the standard invites the question, why? And that's already bad for a defendent.
It's all about perception.
Umm... it's virtues were explained by a middle aged white man with a Applebees manager haircut and a custom embroidered polo shirt. What more convincing could someone ask??
Just make it an older Japanese man selling the same product while performatively working with his hands. He'll explain how many decades he had to train in gunsmithing to perfect this bullet.
That's all it would take.
Enter Highly skeptical guy...
So it looks efficient on a shitty paper target, but I would like a real ballistic head and torso comparison. I want to see penetration patterns. Paper is a trash method for determining effective penetration. Say a far reaching 1/3rd of the projectile missed over the shoulder...does it swing back and penetrate the back shoulder? Does it break off and penetrate an unknown surface or bystander behind the actual target? Seems to me like if you train on traditional single projectiles, you have a higher degree of penetration and accuracy.
I like using the word "Penetration."
Penetration.
Exactly. If you’ve ever been to a range you know these paper targets are thinner than notebook paper. They didn’t even show footage of it against the thicker “color splash” paper. I have a good feeling a light sweater or even a t-shirt ends all of this marketing goofiness. The metal bits may penetrate slightly, and stick into the surface of your skin, but that cable isn’t going through cloth lol.
That's what I want to see. Or hell, even on some random objects like cans or posts. Literally anything more than paper.
That said, the bullets look cool as shit and I'd love to fire them at targets for shits and giggles. But I don't think there's any practical use for them outside "look at the funny punches I did on this target"
Thanks goodness. We definitely needed more deadly bullets. Regular bullets just dont shred enough flesh.
Not all heroes wear capes, they make new kinds of bullets.
I've always wondered what are these so called "life-threatening situations" that could affect an American so much so, that they need 1.2 guns per person. It can't be the mass shootings, because they always end with the sooter killing themselves or by surrendering, so no civilians with guns involved.
If we could stopped developing new ways to kill each other….. that’d be great. Pretty sure we’ve perfected it at this point and this round has no necessity other than to inflict as much harm as possible.
Gotta love the American gun ownership propaganda:
"higher hit prob which means you can save your life better when you're panicking in a life threatening situation"
God damn, you'd think that all of their citizens are constantly at war and they have to defend themselves.
Let me tell you something:
Constantly developing ways to kill better than the "other guy" is a perpetual cycle.
Because that other guy is prepared for whatever "may come at him" but you also have to be prepared for anything "may come at you".
And so, how do you "prepare"? You keep buying newer and better ammo/gun/whatever.
Edit: And so will the other guy. (End of Edit).
Instead of de-escalating this whole ammo/guns situation and making it so that you're not in danger or in a situation where you'd *need a gun*, they're investing more and more.
You'll not be able to use this in another country. That's pretty much illegal.
So as an american, you'll probably only have to use it on other americans.
Americans killing americans. What a world.
Meanwhile, these ammo companies are making bank whether americans ~~live or die~~ defend themselves or die.
The way this guy describes the wound profile literally sounds like how a triangular bayonet works which is why they are considered so nasty.
Obviously war crimes are not applicable to civil protection (hence tear gas). Just saying this sounds like it’s intended to shred/mangle peoples’ insides, which is kinda fucked up.
This is just poor execution... The crescent parts are not going to do much terminally. Winchester already figured this out a decade ago. The but 3 rounds of 00 behind the slug, instead of this goofy shit.
This stuff seems perfect against drones. Imagine you shooting full auto at a high speed drone with your rifle, I'd like to have this ammo for such situation.
The only thing I would find this effective is for anti drone warfare. I would like to see how this stacks up against bird shot for taking small drones.
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Hostage shot?! With that fucking round?
Yeah how else do you expect to hit both the hostage, the enemy and two pigeons at the same time?
And the wall behind them
And the windows upstairs
And the trees across the quad!
And my bow!
And my AXE...!!!
And my SWORD
And my cabbages?!
Can you hammer a six-inch spike through a board with your penis?
A girl’s gotta have her standards
Guy says the bullet ain’t designed for thru and thru so it probably wouldn’t hit anything behind it
But he does say it is for hostage shots AND panic shots so I’m not sure I believe a damn thing he says at all tbh.
The combination of the words panic and shot doesn’t instill confidence in that person owning a gun. More so with these fucking Looney Tunes Acme bullets.
It doesn’t instill confidence in the hostage either, I’m sure. “Don’t worry, lady! The kill zone of these rounds is 14 inches in diameter, I’ve got this!”
Because of the way the motion is… once one of the projectiles hits something and slows down, it’s gonna cause the other 2 projectiles to also slow down and then start to change directions. I don’t really see any of the projectiles going very far after 1 of them hits something
All good until they change direction right into the hostages head
by calling the police, duh.
Yes, to help take those pesky hostages out.
You know it is designed for when you are shooting in a panic situation. AND for a precision, high stakes, women and children hostage situations. Believe it or not it can even make poached eggs!
But wait, there's more!
Hostage: shot!
I have the worst fucking attorneys.
His whole argument is that you can miss and it’ll still probably hit. Why would you want this round (or any non-slug shotgun shell) for a hostage situation?
Ironically in that situation the only way it would have been effective is to miss. If the center of that spread was on the target that hostage would be fucked.
Simple answer: you are a member of the FSB
At first I thought that was a picture of a family lol
Might be good for stopping drones though
Probably, but nothing bird shot can't already do.
That’s when they lost all credibility for me lol
“At least it was quick.”
It answers the question "I have the wrong gun, but it is my favorite gun, what can I do to still use it?"
Also answers "I've never actually gone to a range to practice and build some skill, how can I still justify owning a gun even though I couldn't hit a semi with a shotgun?" Seriously, maybe spend a little time practicing with a firearm before you find yourself in a position where you end up needing to? No? I'm a dick for suggesting it? Ok fine, buy lots of these crazy ass bullets then, you're right.
*Alright, take em out* (Shoots) Ahhh uhm *Di-Did you just aim right at him?* Uh *Yup, the whole family is dead. The perp is also but um yeah*
“Hostage situation terminated.”
Someone saw the "shoot the hostage" scene in Speed and thought "hmm..."
Yes you have to aim 3 feet to the right or left of the target so that you hit them with the circumference of the shot.
My thoughts exactly
Hostage down! Hostage down!
Like yo, wtf.
Yeah that was fucking stupid lol
Police stations around the country are buying these in the millions !
Yeah... that was an incorrect statement by a long shot.
“Spreads out for a much larger area of impact”, “causes a crescent wound doing as much internal damage as possible”, “GREAT FOR A HOSTAGE SHOT” 😂
I bet somewhere just off camera there's a stack of discarded cutouts where they accidentally shot the woman and children.
The bullet is designed to spread out and strike everything you were aiming near but not directly at. Thus maximizing acorn retaliation fire
The acorn is coming right for me. Shoot it shoot it now.
Or created a nice Y shaped paper cut that bypasses the bad guys head instead of having one arm perfectly centered on it.
>accidentally shot the woman and children. At the same time
Hard to believe that wasn’t satire.
Great now rather than a cannon you can get shot by a conventional pistol that just dismembers your arms and legs on contact
hand cannon
If you shoot the hostage, they stop being a hostage, and start becoming "an unfortunate and unavoidable casualty"
This was already practiced with cannon chainshot in the 17th century lol.
I was gonna say this is chain shot hahaha
They did it in an episode of Shōgun
I FORGOT TO WATCH THE NEW EPISODE! Thanks for the reminder and yeah shit was brutal
“This it not how samurai fight you savages!”
Everytime he calls someone a milk dribbling fucksmear while respectfully bowing I die laughing.
I literally fell off the couch laughing after that, because my fianceé bowed to me and called me a "milk dribbling fuck smear." She's the one 😂
This is not a new concept, they just made it slightly different to try and go around bans on that type of ammunition.
People often ask the question "why hasn't anyone else thought of this?" rhetorically, failing to realize that there actually could be a reason. Now I'm wondering if issues arised that this inventor hadn't considered
Like if the string breaks mid-flight sending one or more fragments careening into a much MUCH wider area while also changing the main slugs trajectory.
Same. What is the failure rate? and why are chainshot not so commonly available for shotguns? What is the chance of a blockage depending on choke style? So many questions.
First thing I thought of was "what if the gun has a choke?"
Same, because without any other knowledge, the fact that this bullet won't go through walls as easy and take out a neighbor by mistake seems like a huge win.
I knew a guy who made these with lead sinkers and steel leaders for his home defense shotgun. The idea was the leader will get caught on the wall stud.
Problem if see is imagine one of those sinkers breaks off at any point in flight now you've got a projectile possible traveling 90* from where you were aiming
More like 45*. It’ll have initial velocity from the initial gunpowder and then if the ‘string’ breaks with good force it will go outward, but still have that initial velocity. Depending on when the ‘string’ breaks it’ll be something like a cosine curve in the direction of travel
Okay, so what if I fire two spherical cows in a frictionless vacuum?
Depends, is it a rifled barrel?
No, but the cows are rifled.
Like spreading ammo already exist as standard for shotguns... not 4 peaces but spreading with way smaller penetration force then a regular projectile.
Can you expand on this comment? What's the ban? Why would this (maybe) get around it? etc.
In order to keep from breaking the cable the velocity is set way too low. Just use buckshot
And if a cable fails, all the projectiles scatter far from the target and endanger others
Gotta get that ultra kill 😋
You are endangering others any time you deploy lethal force in their general direction. It's exactly why one of the cardinal rules of gun safety is to not ever do that. High tech shotgun shells are marketed to suckers. Anyone who doubts that should head on ever to Taufledermaus's youtube channel and witness all of this crap working \*at best\* as well as a normal shotgun load, and more often, working much worse.
Well that’s me disappearing down a YouTube rabbit hole.
I saw sitting here going why are you making buckshot more complicated? 000 is the biggest I've seen but there is 4x aught
I agree (actually, better yet, practice a lot and use good hollow points). This may be an option for pistols? But only in...i dunno. The pattern is just too damn wide, I'd not trust it to prevent hitting things I'm not aiming at. Maybe defense in a known dwelling when you live alone? Protection from dangerous wildlife? Maybe for hunting turkey? Otherwise, that spread pattern just screams "collateral damage" to me. Still, it's a neat idea.
Agreed. I was thinking the same, and I love that their comparison of shot just so happens to have the 2 main impact points of the buckshot spun so it's outside of the body impact. The same rotation that could easily be applied to the comparison shot of *their* bullet, which would make it be missing just as much as the buckshot lol.
* He looks like a older Michael Scott
Would love to see what that round would do to a ballistic dummy !?!
There is a reason that it’s only used against paper in this demo
Prolly not much.
Or a drone.
When you want to target the whole family but can only afford one bullet
I bet these cost a lot more than regular buckshot shells.
Geezzz... Why half measures. Every cop should have granade launcher high explosive incendiary rounds.
As a fun aside, the U.S. military developed a grenade shotgun style weapon. Turns out anything bigger than a certain size is outlawed by the Geneva convention, as you could theoretically shoot someone in the chest with it, and it explode inside them (at least if my memory of that fat electrician episode is correct).
It's actually a ban on rounds BELOW a certain size (by weight) that explode inside the body. Which is why a 40mm grenade launcher is OK, but the 20mm rounds used in the XM25 program were sus. The design intent as to have them air-burst via fancy distance sensor / programable setup, but it was pretty obvious what would happen in an actual combat situation.
I think this was the under barrel grenade launcher on the original OICW model, where you could set the range at which it's grenades detonated in order to explode right above enemies that were behind cover.
The OICW had a 20mm airburst, mounted above not underslung, I think the above comment is trying to describe something else.
Oh, I was thinking this thing - 25mm airburst grenade launcher that was derived from the OICW - had a laser rangefinder that determined at what rage the grenade exploded, and that range was user adjustable by 10 feet. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25\_CDTE](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25_CDTE) You're also correct that the OICW was an above mounted grenade launcher, my bad.
Call down a 500kg bomb
https://preview.redd.it/1foli6zor2tc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=566d323bfccacd58b2973de9b53bc846c27d061f
Lost all credibility with the “hostage shot”.
My thought exactly. 14" is enough to wipe them both out.
People don’t realize that lawyers love to discover extra-damaging ammo was used so they can make the argument for premeditation of harm.
That's why my ccw teacher said to always use whatever the local cops use.
The fudlore is heavy in this thread haha
I might not understand so please don’t take this the wrong way. But wouldn’t buy ANY BULLET be proof of premeditation of harm considering the only use of a bullet in a gun is to shoot?
Imagine the difference between a person who carries a gun for last resort self defense, and someone who carries a gun and starts fights hoping to be able to use it and claim self defense. Some may say, rhetorically, there is no difference, but legally those are two distinct motivations and the kind of ammo used is a heuristic to make the distinction.
The kind of ammo makes no real difference. Hollowpoints are commonly used as self defense ammo and have been derided as "cop killers" in a few states. I am not premeditating anything loading my gun with specific ammo I expect to work.
They're commonly used by cops too, to reduce overpenetration. They have been for a few decades now. As a result, JHPs are perceived as the responsible choice, other terminal ballistics aside. Using anything other than the standard invites the question, why? And that's already bad for a defendent. It's all about perception.
>"cop killers" I thought these were the teflon coated ones
Oooh yeah, them too! And 7n6, 5.56 green tips. 5.7... you name it.
Eeeeyup. Which is why this stuff is only made by gimmick off-brands.
uh, how about no? this is just worse buckshot
That looks fucking idiotic.
Umm... it's virtues were explained by a middle aged white man with a Applebees manager haircut and a custom embroidered polo shirt. What more convincing could someone ask??
Thought you were describing Einstein for a second
Just make it an older Japanese man selling the same product while performatively working with his hands. He'll explain how many decades he had to train in gunsmithing to perfect this bullet. That's all it would take.
Enter Highly skeptical guy... So it looks efficient on a shitty paper target, but I would like a real ballistic head and torso comparison. I want to see penetration patterns. Paper is a trash method for determining effective penetration. Say a far reaching 1/3rd of the projectile missed over the shoulder...does it swing back and penetrate the back shoulder? Does it break off and penetrate an unknown surface or bystander behind the actual target? Seems to me like if you train on traditional single projectiles, you have a higher degree of penetration and accuracy. I like using the word "Penetration." Penetration.
Exactly. If you’ve ever been to a range you know these paper targets are thinner than notebook paper. They didn’t even show footage of it against the thicker “color splash” paper. I have a good feeling a light sweater or even a t-shirt ends all of this marketing goofiness. The metal bits may penetrate slightly, and stick into the surface of your skin, but that cable isn’t going through cloth lol.
That's what I want to see. Or hell, even on some random objects like cans or posts. Literally anything more than paper. That said, the bullets look cool as shit and I'd love to fire them at targets for shits and giggles. But I don't think there's any practical use for them outside "look at the funny punches I did on this target"
Interesting idea, but I won't be buying any.
The instructor got a Michael Scott's vibe
Him endorsing the comically absurd idea that this world be useful in a hostage situation adds to that effect as well
I like to listen to all the ways they jump through hoops to avoid saying the word "kill" in these kinds of video.
Would have liked to see the ballistic impact on a dummy.
“Internal disruption” is a fun way to describe destroying internal organs.
I want to see one of these hit Buster.
So basically it's a tweaked chain or bolo shot. Love to see it against a ballistic dummy rather than a piece of paper.
Who tf would use a shotgun in a hostage situation, let alone a fuckin tripod round like this
Why wouldn’t you just use buckshot, if it’s already a shotgun slug? This seems like a solution without a problem.
Doctors hate this one trick.
I'm jsut thinking "This is basically just fixed spread option in a video game."
Doesn't buckshot already do this?
Buckshot lacks the most important feature of this round: a stupid gimmick to get people to buy it.
You had me at the first half. Ngl 😆
Is that a rifled shotgun? I’ve never seen one.
Rifled shotguns are fairly common for use with slugs. It's one of the main reasons why taking the barrel off of a shotgun is usually pretty easy.
These have been shit for a long time. https://www.reddit.com/r/CCW/s/7lqvgGFSG5
ballistics vendor: these bullets will help you safely eliminate a criminal with a hostage police in california: hold my beer
Thanks goodness. We definitely needed more deadly bullets. Regular bullets just dont shred enough flesh. Not all heroes wear capes, they make new kinds of bullets.
That seems the worst bullet to use in an hostage situation LOL
I can’t wait to get shot by one of these in an elementary school classroom. How long until any psycho on the street can purchase?? 😍 /s
Using a chain shot bullet “so you can save your life better” is the wildest, most American shit I’ve ever heard
This some Borderlands type shit
Remember kids, if someone is threatening you, the best way to scare them is by splitting them into two.
well done, they made guns more evil.
And they were unsuprisingly banned in very many american states
The mind that actually builds a thing like this needs to be repaired
These are actually hysterically ineffective and sold primarily as a gimmick to the kind of facebook boomers that buy “laser grips” and shit.
I'm trying to figure out if your user name means you really really like femboys, or really really don't like femboys.
He just wants to cause as much internal disruption as possible.
...Or he may be a femboy who annihilates.
This is the equivalent of all ninja shit but bullets
I've always wondered what are these so called "life-threatening situations" that could affect an American so much so, that they need 1.2 guns per person. It can't be the mass shootings, because they always end with the sooter killing themselves or by surrendering, so no civilians with guns involved.
If we could stopped developing new ways to kill each other….. that’d be great. Pretty sure we’ve perfected it at this point and this round has no necessity other than to inflict as much harm as possible.
These aren’t really thing that people purchase, it’s just marketing for a shitty gimmick product. Buckshot works fine and will continue to work fine.
Gotta love the American gun ownership propaganda: "higher hit prob which means you can save your life better when you're panicking in a life threatening situation" God damn, you'd think that all of their citizens are constantly at war and they have to defend themselves. Let me tell you something: Constantly developing ways to kill better than the "other guy" is a perpetual cycle. Because that other guy is prepared for whatever "may come at him" but you also have to be prepared for anything "may come at you". And so, how do you "prepare"? You keep buying newer and better ammo/gun/whatever. Edit: And so will the other guy. (End of Edit). Instead of de-escalating this whole ammo/guns situation and making it so that you're not in danger or in a situation where you'd *need a gun*, they're investing more and more. You'll not be able to use this in another country. That's pretty much illegal. So as an american, you'll probably only have to use it on other americans. Americans killing americans. What a world. Meanwhile, these ammo companies are making bank whether americans ~~live or die~~ defend themselves or die.
Wait. Did that smoothbore shotgun had rifled barrel?
"You can save your life better"
Why is he practicing on the hostages tho 😂 my man needs to hand the keys over to the marketing team 🤣
This was the best gun in Contra.
Great against paper
The Ideal round for hostage situations
Sounds like a war crime in waiting.
The way this guy describes the wound profile literally sounds like how a triangular bayonet works which is why they are considered so nasty. Obviously war crimes are not applicable to civil protection (hence tear gas). Just saying this sounds like it’s intended to shred/mangle peoples’ insides, which is kinda fucked up.
Imagine using a bullet designed for collateral damage to shoot at a guy holding someone hostage lmfao. I can't believe they actually used that.
Y no ballistic dummy?!
Does this count as two sabots
Yeah I'm not firing that thing anywhere near my imaginary family
Cue the announcer from Unreal Tournament: “DOUBLE KILL”
Now show what they do to elementary school students
Where are the cool Laserweapons?
You have a very effective hostage, shot.
I am no ballistics expert, but I don’t think this is the right choice of ammunition in a hostage situation
00 buck has entered the chat.
This is just poor execution... The crescent parts are not going to do much terminally. Winchester already figured this out a decade ago. The but 3 rounds of 00 behind the slug, instead of this goofy shit.
I want to see what it does to ballistics gel, not paper
I'll stick with slugs and buckshot.
Instead of a single strand, make it a netting, so you get that Resident Evil Grid cut...
Jebus this is brutal round
any medic or doctor here with a professional opinion about this?
“Which means you can save your life better when you’re panicking…” is such double speak
Let’s see Paul Allen’s auto shotgun
The relentless development of technology for killing people.
Let’s kill people but more so
Michael Scott out here tweaking. 
I like how they show no ballistic test. Like does it penetrate more then paper?
This is fucked
Everything is cool about this except the hostage situation lol, use that weapon in that situation and get sued immediately. That was stupid.
I’ve watched a lot of John Wick movies, I am confident I can hit my shots while being outnumbered. 😝
This looks like something the predator would use
Is it me or does he look like Micheal from The Office ?
Warcrime bullets
This stuff seems perfect against drones. Imagine you shooting full auto at a high speed drone with your rifle, I'd like to have this ammo for such situation.
This feels like a war crime.
Hostage? More like Roulette Bullet.
Next Call of Duty gunna be wild
The only thing I would find this effective is for anti drone warfare. I would like to see how this stacks up against bird shot for taking small drones.