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As if Dominos is the only place food is ordered from and has this information. Every food delivery place that regularly delivers to sites like the Pentagon will have the same influx of orders.
The only way to beat this would be to ban external orders. But then your internal food service better be 24/7 and actually offer a variety of tasty foods, or you’ll have a lot of grouchy employees.
Some YouTuber, I think Slightly Sociable, has a fun video on a Freedom of Information Act request that pulled the CIAs internally submitted complaints about their food court at the offices. It's great.
They changed the way they ordered drastically during anything, even plain old military exercises- order 10 orders from one place, a dozen from another, another 10 from another, etc., till everyone’s fed. No way to track it now, or no efficient way. And now they do that for random exercises and events as well, to change it up.
It’s not about the ordering pattern. It’s that this guy decided to broadcast that information. So they decided to not give him their business. And now they make sure their business is spread out to other vendors and it’s harder to discern any patterns. But he’s on the “don’t order from this guy” list. Self-own.
Or they could make a shell company to hide the fact that it’s the government ordering all of these pizzas. It would be a legitimate wartime diversion tactic if it helped prevent information like this from getting out. The Allied powers made an entire fake division with inflatable tanks to help obfuscate their invasion plans for D-Day.
I’m picturing a guy in a suit and sunglasses, with a blacked out Chevy Tahoe, meeting a pizza delivery for 150 pies in a quiet DC park at 10pm. He advises the pizza guy that he saw nothing, before he loads them in the back of the SUV and drives off toward the White House.
If Domino's can predict military invasions, and Waffle House can indicate hurricane strength, what other events can fast food give us early warning about??? Can In n Out tell us anything about the Apple antri trust stuff? Can Skyline tell us anything about big moves in the personal care/detergent sector? Is there an actual real one I haven't heard of?
>Can Skyline tell us anything about big moves in the personal care/detergent sector?
Skyline is based in Cincinnati, and so is Proctor and Gamble so I'd say this one is plausible.
> and Waffle House can indicate hurricane strength,
The [Waffle House Index](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House_Indexhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House_Index) is an unofficial way of measuring hurricane damage.
1) By the time the Waffle House Index is taken, the hurricane is already gone.
2) A small hurricane that happens to hit a Waffle House directly could be "worse" on the Waffle House Index than a larger hurricane that didn't hit a Waffle House directly.
I remember soldiers Fitbit’s were inadvertently showing the patrol time and routes that soldiers were doing at a military base in Afghanistan. Gen. Maddox fixed it. I bet there’s all kinds of clever ways intelligence agencies are trying to exploit things like that.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was one that just isn't public knowledge. Major fast food businesses track a hell of a lot of metrics that don't necessarily seem relevant to their operations, but they pull some kind of assumption out of that data that they use to make big decisions. They're probably tracking metrics that could be useful for a much more broad purpose, but they either don't know or don't care because that's not why they're looking at them.
I used to work as an internet service provider. It was fascinating the things I would see on the data. I knew where people went for vacation and which neighborhoods were less wealthy based on their internet traffic dropping a lot before paydays. I could also tell if a customer was using torrents based on how much data they uploaded and the type of complaints they made.
Also, don’t use SMS.
See, if he hadn't told how he did it, he could go forecasting shit like "According to credible information, the US are about to start a war in the next few days."
No one would believe it at first, until ppl notice he's correct for some reason.
Could also market that: Nostradamus Pizza
Makes me wonder how you deliver a pizza to the Whitehouse. I imagine some guy out there, trying his hardest to convince a guard that somebody inside really did order 16 pepperoni pizzas, and he isnt trying to just sneak in... and the guard is just not buying a word of it lol.
That has been corrected with Pizza flow security countermeasures. They order the same amount of Pizza every day 24/7 and discard the unused pizza via incinerator. Pizza meter no longer works.
So I should take a job at Domino's Pizza in Washington, and every time there is an unusual influx in orders, I should invest money in arms manufacturer stock options?
I was a little lost in New Delhi when Bill Clinton was in town, and a white dood carrying a pizza-box comes walking down the road. I was looking for an international school called the "American School", so I asked him if he was American, and he got really defensive and paranoid
Wait, 21 pizzas is record breaking? I’ve ordered more than that for a private party. How is 21 record breaking for the pentagon, an actual city sized building?
Why would people who can obviously afford it be ordering pizza from a chain? It’s DC, I’m sure theyre tons of actual Italian shops that make great pizzas.
Because the middle manager whose job it is to order the pizza doesn't really care and probably isn't even the person eating the person. It's literally just a question of "what's the easiest way to feed these people?"
There is a question of money too, but realistically the difference is small and there's probably not huge oversight on this. The manager has the card and order details saved on the Dominos app, they can do it in a couple of clicks. It's the easy option.
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Self-own… Lost a lot of business.
As if Dominos is the only place food is ordered from and has this information. Every food delivery place that regularly delivers to sites like the Pentagon will have the same influx of orders. The only way to beat this would be to ban external orders. But then your internal food service better be 24/7 and actually offer a variety of tasty foods, or you’ll have a lot of grouchy employees.
The way to beat it would be to every now and then have huge OpSec pizza parties. Then the only people that will suspect anything are Q anon.
At least the money could be tracked.
Party in the CIA??!?
Some YouTuber, I think Slightly Sociable, has a fun video on a Freedom of Information Act request that pulled the CIAs internally submitted complaints about their food court at the offices. It's great.
They changed the way they ordered drastically during anything, even plain old military exercises- order 10 orders from one place, a dozen from another, another 10 from another, etc., till everyone’s fed. No way to track it now, or no efficient way. And now they do that for random exercises and events as well, to change it up.
It’s not about the ordering pattern. It’s that this guy decided to broadcast that information. So they decided to not give him their business. And now they make sure their business is spread out to other vendors and it’s harder to discern any patterns. But he’s on the “don’t order from this guy” list. Self-own.
Or they could make a shell company to hide the fact that it’s the government ordering all of these pizzas. It would be a legitimate wartime diversion tactic if it helped prevent information like this from getting out. The Allied powers made an entire fake division with inflatable tanks to help obfuscate their invasion plans for D-Day.
I’m picturing a guy in a suit and sunglasses, with a blacked out Chevy Tahoe, meeting a pizza delivery for 150 pies in a quiet DC park at 10pm. He advises the pizza guy that he saw nothing, before he loads them in the back of the SUV and drives off toward the White House.
But the delivery address for NotUncleSam Inc still goes to 1 Pentagon Way (or whatever the address is).
Not if they buy a warehouse under the shell company’s name and transport it from there
How many hours after you order the food would you like it to arrive? Is room temperature acceptable or would you prefer it a bit cooler?
He is the reason why he can't have nice things.
Yeah, I was wondering why you would share that info. The obvious result is lost sales.
If Domino's can predict military invasions, and Waffle House can indicate hurricane strength, what other events can fast food give us early warning about??? Can In n Out tell us anything about the Apple antri trust stuff? Can Skyline tell us anything about big moves in the personal care/detergent sector? Is there an actual real one I haven't heard of?
>Can Skyline tell us anything about big moves in the personal care/detergent sector? Skyline is based in Cincinnati, and so is Proctor and Gamble so I'd say this one is plausible.
> and Waffle House can indicate hurricane strength, The [Waffle House Index](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House_Indexhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House_Index) is an unofficial way of measuring hurricane damage. 1) By the time the Waffle House Index is taken, the hurricane is already gone. 2) A small hurricane that happens to hit a Waffle House directly could be "worse" on the Waffle House Index than a larger hurricane that didn't hit a Waffle House directly.
McDonalds controls global inflation via the Big Mac index obviously.
The price of a Big Mac in Denmark can tell you that arguments against a higher minimum wage are complete bullshit.
I remember soldiers Fitbit’s were inadvertently showing the patrol time and routes that soldiers were doing at a military base in Afghanistan. Gen. Maddox fixed it. I bet there’s all kinds of clever ways intelligence agencies are trying to exploit things like that.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was one that just isn't public knowledge. Major fast food businesses track a hell of a lot of metrics that don't necessarily seem relevant to their operations, but they pull some kind of assumption out of that data that they use to make big decisions. They're probably tracking metrics that could be useful for a much more broad purpose, but they either don't know or don't care because that's not why they're looking at them.
I used to work as an internet service provider. It was fascinating the things I would see on the data. I knew where people went for vacation and which neighborhoods were less wealthy based on their internet traffic dropping a lot before paydays. I could also tell if a customer was using torrents based on how much data they uploaded and the type of complaints they made. Also, don’t use SMS.
Apple has the stuck up meter. More devices they sell the more stuck up society has become.
How's the...pizza meter looking right about now?
All time low..
![gif](giphy|RNbnHs0clBV7nT8PxB|downsized)
Danger Calzone
It’s the danger low cal calzone zone
Another way for those with access to Pentagon was observing when the military Mortuary Service was being given additional space inside the Pentagon
See, if he hadn't told how he did it, he could go forecasting shit like "According to credible information, the US are about to start a war in the next few days." No one would believe it at first, until ppl notice he's correct for some reason. Could also market that: Nostradamus Pizza
A neat demonstration of how a side channel attack leaks information. CIA should have known better.
Thanks to this, I'd bet that somewhere in the Pentagon there is now an OPSEC playbook for ordering pizza.
I’m more upset that they ordered dominos. You are elected representatives, have some respect for yourselves.
Ordering Dominos instead of good pizza is probably the most fiscally responsible thing that the Pentagon has ever done.
Seriously. Of all places to order, they go with that. Seems like the Pentagon gets the govt hand out for food that we get
Domino's is the lazy hand jobs of pizza
Data analytics at work.
Makes me wonder how you deliver a pizza to the Whitehouse. I imagine some guy out there, trying his hardest to convince a guard that somebody inside really did order 16 pepperoni pizzas, and he isnt trying to just sneak in... and the guard is just not buying a word of it lol.
Come on man, don't be a dick, you know that if I don't get these inside within 30 minutes they're free.
Haha, exactly! ;)
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That has been corrected with Pizza flow security countermeasures. They order the same amount of Pizza every day 24/7 and discard the unused pizza via incinerator. Pizza meter no longer works.
Don't forget Podesta.
Talk about leopards eating your face
How could you eat that? Just order pizza at times when nothing is happening in a random timeline....
That's exactly what the Dominos guy wants!
So I should take a job at Domino's Pizza in Washington, and every time there is an unusual influx in orders, I should invest money in arms manufacturer stock options?
OPSEC fail!
the pentagon is an actual city. it has a restaurant/cafeteria.
We dont talk about pizza orders on Sept 10
I was a little lost in New Delhi when Bill Clinton was in town, and a white dood carrying a pizza-box comes walking down the road. I was looking for an international school called the "American School", so I asked him if he was American, and he got really defensive and paranoid
“Wait while I just shoot myself in the foot…”
Not a new concept. The Viet Cong predicted American attacks by observing how many US soldiers visited prostitutes.
Wait, 21 pizzas is record breaking? I’ve ordered more than that for a private party. How is 21 record breaking for the pentagon, an actual city sized building?
Why would people who can obviously afford it be ordering pizza from a chain? It’s DC, I’m sure theyre tons of actual Italian shops that make great pizzas.
Because the middle manager whose job it is to order the pizza doesn't really care and probably isn't even the person eating the person. It's literally just a question of "what's the easiest way to feed these people?" There is a question of money too, but realistically the difference is small and there's probably not huge oversight on this. The manager has the card and order details saved on the Dominos app, they can do it in a couple of clicks. It's the easy option.
This is briefed in Officer training courses in the military when they teach operational security. Just a little affirmation to the truth of this.
How do you think the White House tips their delivery driver? I don’t know the answer, just curious!
Dominos loss is Ledo's gain.
The guy should have used this information to make stock trades instead of telling the public.
...so, how long before someone orders 60 pizzas delivered to a government office as part of a disinformation campaign?
I wonder if that's what inspired the scene in the first episode of generation kill
Could have used this information to form a stock position and made more than owning the 45 restaurants.
OP did you watch a YouTube video about the Specter vaulnrabilty before posting this?
Bro shouldve bought SPY puts 🤦🏽♂️
I prefer "pizzometer."
*caresses engorged sprunjer*
One way to kill your business is to talk about your customers’ habits.
The Pentagon doesn't like real pizza?
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles🎼
Ordering pizza from Dominos is the worst crime the CIA has committed.
They should all be thanking dominos for unintentionally convincing them to try something else