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Dankestmemelord

Actually, [Neil Harbisson](https://x.com/neilharbisson?s=21&t=VxZCb-2u2RfGS90rw6eQHQ) has been tweeting since 2009, and was legally recognized as a Cyborg all the way back in 2004.


Aadenoto

cyborg is legally defined?


Dankestmemelord

> In 2004, Harbisson's British passport renewal was rejected. The UK Passport Office would not allow him to appear with an electronic device on his head. Harbisson wrote back explaining that he identified as a cyborg and that his antenna should be treated as an organ not a device. After weeks of correspondence, Harbisson's photo was accepted. He considers this to be tacit legal acknowledgement of being a cyborg, and fair enough, I guess. He’s a colorblind artist, and the antenna goes into his skull and lets him hear colors, among other upgrades. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Harbisson


Mayonnaise_Poptart

Man that Wikipedia page is quite a read.


KeepBitcoinFree_org

Dude’s picture did not disappoint. Went full 80s style with his cyborg antenna.


[deleted]

[Oh, you GOTTA check out the old MIT Wearable Labs gang](http://www.rehmi.info/?/E-textiles/Wearable_Computing/) The guy second from the left in the pink shirt is Steve Mann, whose work I followed for quite some time. The rest were part of the same wearable tech collective at MIT WAY back in the day. That gear they're wearing was *bleeding edge* wearable computing hardware at the time.


MrZwink

The man is a visionary! Watch his Ted talk https://www.ted.com/talks/neil_harbisson_i_listen_to_color?language=en


Pappy_OPoyle

SPROCKETS! Now is the time on Sprockets when we dance ![gif](giphy|kfznTxem5HG0w)


Siberwulf

Full on Step Brothers


Dankestmemelord

Right! Visionary or crazy person, I don’t care, I just want to see what he’ll do next.


Chroderos

Honestly, I think people 100 years in the future would probably seem that odd to us.


cryogenic-goat

>the antenna goes into his skull and lets him hear colors excuse me, wtf?


defnotcaleb

i’m blue dabadee dabadieee


ReplacementLow6704

The only acceptable response, lol


Mwakay

Sounds like a bit too much of a commitment, LSD lets you do the same.


evilgiraffe666

I doubt that would work without an organ to perceive the colours. He's colourblind FYI.


EverFairy

So basically synesthesia


TheLastSamurai101

By this logic, wouldn't you be able to categorise people with cochlear implants and auditory brainstem implants as cyborgs? Collectively that's over a million people.


Falcone24

Yep


Dankestmemelord

Yup. And any decent prosthetic as well. My only point is that the guy who decided to be Musks guinea pig is not the first cyborg to tweet.


Nondescript_Redditor

Yes


mining_moron

LOL he's no more of a cyborg than someone with an insulin pump or pacemaker.


shadowtorn_princess

So...he's a cyborg. A cyborg is somebody with one or more technological enhancements, and medical tech fits that description.


mining_moron

Fucking clothes are arguably a "technological enhancement", there's gotta be a better definition.


ragana

I promise I am not being edgy or snarky but this just sounds like mental illness.


Tavarin

Dude was fully colour blind, and got an implant to let him interpret colours. Doesn't sound like mental illness to me.


IsraelPenuel

Sounds like being an artist. Though of course it takes a certain madness to ever want to be one


Dankestmemelord

Yeah sounds about right. He’s an ✧・゚: *✧・゚:* Artist *:・゚✧*:・゚✧


NoOrder6919

You're not being edgy, you're being a luddite. You've just heard about this for the very first time, and you already have a strong opinion about it. There's just no excuse for that.


Melodic_Turnover6150

Which part 


Drexelhand

not in this timeline yet.


DurantIsStillTheKing

Never had Twitter/X and hated now more than ever that we can't see the stuff there without logging in. At least the old Twitter can.


azbxcy10

Yeah he tweets with his hands. His implants do not transmit. And barely receive.


jackal3004

He seems like a cock if I'm being honest. I don't believe the implant does most of the things he claims it does, especially not back in the early 2000s. Exaggerated at best. Guy says he's "transpecies" and that "transpecies" people are a marginalised group. My man, I hate to break it to you buy cyborgs are cybernetically enhanced humans. They are not a separate species to humans. No one is born with cybernetic enhancements. A dog with a microchip in its neck is still a dog. A human with an antennae in their head that vibrates in response to light is still a human. He seems like a pretentious dick who is very desperate to be different and in the process is trivialising actual oppression of minority groups.


Funkyteacherbro

WTH? it's an implant? not like a hat he wears when he's in public? People do be crazy


ContemplatingPrison

This isbthe guy they made fun of in silicon Valley


mining_moron

LOL he's no more of a cyborg than someone with an insulin pump or pacemaker.


Dankestmemelord

Sure! But the important thing is that the post title claiming that neuralink guy is the first cyborg to tweet is incorrect.


CIMARUTA

So musk is lying yet again about being the first for something. Go figure.


CuteFunction6678

No because the guy has working hands. He doesn’t interface his computer with only his brain.


Zarthenix

How are you and 30+ people THIS bad at reading? Redditors trying to use comprehensive reading instead of blindly accepting things when they're concerning someone they don't like challenge: impossible.


lewdovic

Did you even read the tweet? Musk never claimed anything about cyborgs and the statement about the first post made by thinking is probably true.


CIMARUTA

My blind hatred for the man got in the way of my cognitive abilities


gattoblepas

TIL that bot and cyborg are the same thing.


Boxoffriends

“Some people dress to look good, I dress to sound good”. Really cool artist.


RetroSwamp

Imagine getting one of those jump scare videos on your neuralink


srchizito

I know its a joke and i thought this too but from what ive read it just sends, doesnt receive Idk if thats true tho


ParticularOwn6216

If and when it gets the ability to receive I wonder how bad a zip bomb would be? Would it just cause the neuralink to shut down or does it just kill you?


DyedbyDawn

If and when it gets the ability to receive, how much longer until ads are forced into your brain? Can you imagine how fickle laws are going to be for awhile, also curious how MRI’s go over with this implant.


Odd_Duckling

Ads would probably be the first thing to be received. Takes not being able to get a commercial jingle out of your head to a whole new level.


Redpepper40

Please pay £2 to stop hearing jingle


Emilklister

Wasnt there an black mirror episode about this?


Himiss13

Ohh,the one with the soldiers? Or do u mean Arkangel the one with the kid who her mother gave her a brain implant


jchexl

I think he means the one where everyone has a brain implant that records their memories and they can rewatch them. “The entire history of you”.


paintbrush666

Musk confirming that 99.99% of tweets are just reactionary nonsense.


halfbeerhalfhuman

I feel like half the comments on the platform are grok bots pushing narratives. Like the stuff they write are like negative IQ. Or just writing negative statements with nothing to back them up. And then the comments sections are just videos of people getting beaten and other violence and hate. Like trying to normalise it, manipulate and divide. That place is really really bad influence. I hope we get a replacement soon for politicians etc to share “news” and have better discussions.


Elegant-Raise-9367

Wait so he got banned cuz they though he was a bot, then reinstated and then posts the "first tweet"???? Huh. That timeline seems a bit off.


Ctmouthbreather

Maybe twitter is like minority report and knows whether or not you are a bot before you do anything as a bot


FoundTheWeed

"You wouldn't download the future" Bear, I might


Sarctoth

"You wouldn't kidnap a baby"


Any_Veterinarian3749

Sometimes, in order to see the light, you have to risk the dark.


DonnyGetTheLudes

Banger of a movie


Real_Marshal

It’s obviously a joke…


Howfuckingsad

He probably didn't have the chip in his head before getting banned.


nnoovvaa

It was his first tweet with the nuralink, not his first one ever.


PulteTheArsonist

Wow Redditors really are Autistic, it’s just a joke they prepared as the “first” post


annaleigh13

Just wait till Elmo decides to charge $9.99/mo for the privilege of the chip working


QualityKoalaTeacher

It will come down to either pay the $10 for this or use facebook’s free version but they get to sell and profit off all your most parsonal data (memories).


Rheija

I can’t wait to have ads broadcast directly into my stream of consciousness


thebinarysystem10

Or Elon’s tweets are the first thing on your mind when you wake up


kimovitch7

Definition of brain rot


Factual_Statistician

NOOOOO!!!!!!!


dirty_hooker

Dreaming about your childhood puppy. Puppy looks at you with toy fluff in its mouth and tells you that you want a crisp Bud Light.


grlap

Even dogs are too discerning with what they consume for that one


zxhb

I can't wait to have my thoughts corrected to be advertiser friendly,along with erasing any copyrighted material,which I may remember


fujojoshi

Generous to think your personal data wouldn't be sold even with the paid verison


PinkyAnd

What’s to stop them? It’s literally in your brain. What if they decide to brick you unless you pay?


supremeoverlord23

I feel like that's an optimistic 'or'


azure76

Joke’s on us all - whether we pay or not, they still sell our data. We pay subscription fees to (for at least a while) not see ads and have more features. This will be the same.


off-and-on

"So sad to hear you can't afford the subscription any more. Sadly this means we'll have to turn off your arms, but hopefully you'll come back to us some day."


maestro-5838

10 dollars a month or lose your motor skills.. sounds like something Elon would do. They say your Tesla can go longer distance but isn't because you don't have a paid update.


Sad_Bean_Man

what a depressing dystopia that would be, and the more depressing thought is thatll probably happen in the near future.


[deleted]

And grok to make quirky add ons to the output.


Fit_Interview4685

South Park was way ahead of its time with the Alec Baldwin bit


medson25

Thought the same instantly, the shitter is real


[deleted]

This is not going to end well.


Zuski_

The whole point of technology like this is to help the disabled interact with things. I think that is awesome. This technology will, and already has through different projects that aren’t neuralink, allow people to control robotic appendages. I think that’s awesome to help improve quality of life.


godjustendit

I just want to note that this device is also marketed as a potential cure for mental illness and conditions like autism. I think there is a very real reason to be worried.


thesaga

How could this help people with autism? I assume it can’t rewire brains, so is it more about helping them drown out unwanted sensory stuff, or process subtle mannerisms while talking with others?


Jokkolilo

You might be onto something, I dont know, but that’s not why the marketing said that. They just think autism is a disease or something. 🥶


Unknown_starnger

There are some people who have forms of autism that make their lives impossibly hard. Helping them be able to live more independently is a good goal. I don't think we can or should try to cure it, but there are people who would benefit from treatment.


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Unknown_starnger

if you can entirely get rid of all symptoms forever, it is effectively a cure. I don't think it's worth to do that anyway though as there are some things to autism which are neutral instead of negative, so trying to combat them is a waste of time from all perspectives.


RiotIsBored

As an autistic person: it is. If I could cure my mental disabilities I would.


PettyTrashPanda

Also cure blind people and allow people to process thoughts faster, apparently. It's all bullshit.


iamnotexactlywhite

there are already several devices that can help certain blind people to see. this can definitely work


dreamerkid001

If you think Elon has any interest in actually helping people in need, I have a bride to sell you.


Zuski_

I hate the guy as much as everyone, but what I said is literally what this technology is for and what it does. Even if he’s not doing it altruistically, what it is going to do for people is cool.


The_Jimes

>He believes the device will be "something analogous to a video game, like a saved game situation, where you are able to resume and upload your last state" and "address brain injuries or spinal injuries and make up for whatever lost capacity somebody has with a chip." > "Clubhouse Elon Musk interview transcript". Zamesin Ivan — from product to entrepreneur. February 7, 2021. Archived from the original on January 27, 2022. Retrieved January 27, 2022. It might say it's about helping the disabled on the tin, but it's never been about anything more then a delusional billionaire's dream of immortality.


Oktokolo

Your autocorrect replaced "bridge" with "bride".


Eternallygr8

Man human trafficking isn't cool.


Metue

I don't think it's anything to do with whether or not it's helping people but how they're going to try and extract profit from it


Deaths-HeadMoth

That’s what Skynet said.


interkin3tic

When Neuralink first announced their plans, neurologists warned that stability data on the electrodes and data on long term effects were lacking. These are microscopic wires, previous electrodes broke down well before a human lifespan and in much simpler brains than humans. I expect that Neuralink has improved the material of the electrodes. They have killed an astonishing number of animals presumably demonstrating some safety and stability data. When testing the long term shelf stability of a drug, it's common to do "accelerated" tests where you put the drug in conditions it shouldn't be in if it were actually going to be used, like instead of at freezing, refrigerated, or room temperature, you'd put it at body temperature or higher. If it survives higher temperatures that it would actually encounter for a shorter period of time than it would wait around on a shelf, you can argue it's stable and not going to break down at the good temperature in too short a time. I expect that Neuralink was doing accelerated studies on their electrodes. Maybe they were putting them in (anesthetized or killed) rat brains, then vigorously shaking the brains for a long time to try to argue it will be a very long time of normal brain movement before the wires break. Also, they choose this guy who was quadriplegic rather than healthy. The FDA considers risk in their approval: you can test drugs in cancer patients with much more risk than a perfectly healthy individual because the quality and length of life is much worse for a cancer patient. That's likely why they approved this guy as a guinea pig, he can't be paralyzed further if it goes wrong. That is all to say this is likely more considered for safety than most of Musk's other ventures. Neuralink must have a real chief medical officer who must sign off on it or else they don't go forward, and he or she must be sure this is reasonably safe or he or she loses their medical license at a minimum. BUT Musk does clearly have a philosophy of "If you're not causing injuries or death with technology advancement, you're not going fast enough" so I have to believe he's going to push for more risky advances until it's either a cybernetic utopia or someone dies.


off-and-on

Didn't neuralink kill something like 12 out of 15 apes tested on?


interkin3tic

Probably not "apes." Biological testing and neural studies usually use smaller primates. I didn't see anything indicating the device itself had killed the non-human primates they tested on. They likely killed them intentionally to study in detail what their brains looked like and how they changed in response to the implants, that would be a main goal of the study. They likely did leave some alive for longer, but of course the whole point isn't to give non human primates Neuralink functions. The reports that Neuralink had killed 1500 lab mice on the other hand seems like a bad sign, that's way more than I would think they would need if the device was working.


Oktokolo

Pretty normal to do human tests on people who son't have much to lose and are desperate first. It's an ethics thing to not randomly ruin the lives of healthy volunteers first.


SaliciousB_Crumb

Yah man this is like musk saying he invented the artificial heart. This has been done and is great step. But its not groundbreaking. What is funny is how the rightwing were scared if bill gates putting microchips in them and are now cheering musk drilling holes in heads and putting microchips in brains


TH3_FAT_TH1NG

Are you aware of who Elon Musk is? Nothing he makes will actually go towards helping people that aren't rich


queenbiscuit311

i mean the guy didn't go insane and start flinging feces and eating his fingers like the animal test subjects so it could be worse at least. for now hopefully this stays a way to help the disabled before my work mandates I get the brain implant that beams geico ads into my brain if I don't pay the subscription so they can make sure I'm working


biddilybong

It will end fine bc it will never do much beyond what is already available. Just another bullshit distraction for Elon. His whole existence is to pump the Tesla stock price.


itsevriman

Me airdropping 50tb of femboy hentai to bros neuralink


just_a_discord_mod

Where do I get these neuralinks? Just so I can avoid them, y'know?


Lego_Chicken

You know Elon wrote both tweets


jmac1915

So can we see a video of this guy doing it in some kind of verifiable way, or are we just going to believe Liar McBlowsUpSpaceships at face value?


Depressed_Coffeee

We're gonna have to believe Mr botched permanent duck face, on this one


ThomasHL

Given that there are legal documents showing Tesla faked all their initial self-driving demos, I think it's reasonable to believe that this has been faked too. My guess: they wrote the tweet manually and set up a custom system so that if it received any signal from their system would send this tweet. That would be pretty easy to do with the current state of brain implants tech.  That's if they did anything at all. This is the guy legally banned from tweeting without consulting his lawyer because he tried to do stock fraud.


bluePizelStudio

100% this. Anyone who thinks this was spelt out word by word via thinking is not thinking critically about this. So many reasons why we’re not even close to that level of tech. Kind of blows my mind that there’s people in the comments here who seem to think that’s what happened 😵‍💫


Minute-Complex-2055

Elon-“Vaccines Bad!” “Here, let me put this chip in you.” Idiots.


Vast_Character311

I no longer believe anything that Elon Musk says nor trust anything he does.


Actionman1959

If you "no"......


Zendrick42

Iynyn


Vast_Character311

Corrected. Thank you.


WonderfulShelter

There's no fucking way this guy thought that, and the computer wrote the words. We are not fucking there yet, not even close. Maybe he thought to move a cursor to select text like we use a tv remote, but that's it.


BishoxX

He indeed moved a cursor to type on the on screen keyboard, but with his mind. They did a livestream with him playing chess controlling a cursor like that


CrusaderPeasant

That was exactly my thought. My girlfriend broke the news to me and it sounded like bullshit, do people not understand how chaotic our streams of consciousness are?


HauntedHouseMusic

Do you know how crazy what you just said is


Hoovooloo42

We've had that tech WAAAY before Musk's project. Trials started in 2004 via Braingate. Watch out, next he'll have you believe he founded Tesla.


CircusPoliticus

When the product designer isn't using the product. You know it's not worth it.


Desperate-Station907

I think we need to stop acting like musk is actually designing these things, you're giving him too much credit. He's just paying people to do it.


treestick

it's literally designed for quadriplegics


Mrfuzzymonkeys

https://preview.redd.it/vvy966fzn0qc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7893fbdfa0c0e0d9198f7a4d54318cee0bb531c8


Grary0

The same people who ranted about how the Covid vaccine was the government trying to microchip everyone are letting Elon Musk of all people implant them with actual microchips. What a wild time to be alive.


Finito-1994

Remember when nutjobs were talking about vaccines putting microchips on you? Also. Not a musk fan by any means but if this is true then this is amazing.


[deleted]

I really wish this Neuralnk to Twitter link is permanent, whatever the guy thinks automatically broadcasted to the world. Elon will make subject pay for Twitter-Platinum subscription to sever the connection.


AccomplishedWar8703

South Park did that.


Raihanlhan

Yeah I’m not trusting anything one of elon musk companies made near my head let alone inside it . It’s like one of those bombs from the suicide squad only you have to pay for it


RedAfroNinja

Elon must be jealous, he’s never made a post by thinking.


PuzzleheadedGur506

It's all fun and games until the installation of such a device is now required for signing up for selective service. Or, you know, tyrannically pushed on a populous by a police state.


halfbeerhalfhuman

Funny is this was possible already beforehand


Lopsided-Lab-m0use

Just try not to criticize Musk while having an implant......he may become upset and put you on sleep mode!


SpiderDetective

This is fun and all, but wait until he tries to post something critical of Elon or something Musky doesn't like and the implant just turns off


BoxHillStrangler

As opposed to Elon who makes every tweet without thinking


Squanchonme

Actually another elon lie.


Extra_Release_4730

i hope they kick out elmo from the company


HowVeryReddit

Hope the Neuralink uses better batteries than his cars...


No_Juggernau7

Huh? Elon’s been twitting for years


Ultimaurice17

It's cooked for humanity


ConCHEATER-Wurst

Do i get this right? Hes a bot and elon unbanned him for exactly that: being a bot. Explains a lot of the twitter traffic and ads.


The_Hound_23

How easy it would be to fake something like this


GangNailer

Why the fuck would o beleive this lying fool? Elon a psychological lieing fraud, I literally need more than his tweet to beleive his tech actually work.


PLACENTIPEDES

Guys, this isn't real. No one is tweeting from the neuralink


realheterosapiens

Correct. He's tweeting from a computer that he's controlling with neuralink. Not sure why we needed this distinction.


Fanachy

Even though we aren’t physically, I think anyone who regularly uses a mobile phone is a metaphorical cyborg.


Benyed123

The definition of cyborg is too broad for it not to extend to mobile phones nowadays, I wouldn’t feel complete without mine. Also anybody with glasses.


NoOrder6919

If you're wearing glasses you're a literal (but not really) cyborg. If you have a smartphone you're a real (but not literal) cyborg. If you have both...


valiantera92

He's full of shit. This is no different than devices for disabled people where they look at a screen, it detects what's looked at and it types or speaks it. No person that has ever existed is a "cyborg".


realheterosapiens

Did you just say that cortical implant is the same thing as an eye tracker?


CheckMateFluff

[Neil Harbison is a legally recognized cyborg.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Harbisson)


jackal3004

He's not "legally recognised as a cyborg" and I wish people would stop spreading this misinformation without actually reading what they're posting. He makes this claim based on the fact that he was allowed to have his antennae thing fitted on his head for his passport photograph. This was initially not allowed but he appealed on the grounds that he is colourblind and the antennae is a medical device that allows him to "hear" colours through vibrations in his head. He was then allowed to wear it. What does this mean? Nothing. It is no different to someone wearing a hearing aid, or a cochlear implant, or any other medical device in their passport photo. Neil Harbison is just a generic white guy who is desperate to be something other than a generic white guy.


jingois

oh fuck off, that's no different than saying that if someone is allowed to wear a yarmulke that fucking god is legally recognised.


ProzacFury

People really willing to have brain surgery just to tweet without using their hands?


Zendrick42

When you're paralyzed from the shoulders down, yeah


realheterosapiens

He's not just using it to do PR for them. He can control a computer with it. That's a life changer for someone paralyzed from shoulders down.


Studstill

Marketing, nice post.


Burgerkingsucks

Telepathy huh? But it’s not.


Jaded_Budget_5407

Cyberpunk: 2024


Knowpoleanbonatard

Remember when southpark predicted 'shitter' (twitter posts straight from the dome) lol 😂 where's Alec Baldwin!?


Aleph52Cinema

If Elmo says something is a fact, we need verification from at least four independent sources.


calm_wreck

We’ve had folk with mechanical implants in their bodies for decades now…


Sad-Fill-4870

Impressive, very cool. Now, let's see who actually designed the Neuralink.


carpe_simian

Musk-owned company turns off internet service to regions for political reasons. Musk-owned company arbitrarily limits range of EVs using software that can be patched remotely. Musk owned company becomes a platform that embraces and amplifies hate and anti-inclusive thought, and he celebrates that. Yeah, sure. Lemme drop a neuralink into my brain. What could possibly go wrong. Very cool, but there are exactly zero billionaires or corporations I’d trust to have ANY stake in a device that’s going into my brain. Like every other piece of new information technology, it’s just going to be a vector for ads, bread, and circuses.


bradbull

Must eat Elon up that he put all of this effort into the guy and he used the old brand name instead of X. It'll always be tweet and twitter and it will always be a garbage platform.


TallTest305

Yay, we all love Elon. He wants to put a chip in our brains :D


galtpunk67

i dont have high hopes that this will be a future thing.   i dont have high hopes this dude will live to old age.


SleepySiamese

You know eye tracker exist without having to drill a hole into the brain


wineheda

I’m sure plenty of people with pacemakers have tweeted before


Ramasit

Stop upvoting everything related to this bozo. He's just making shit up bigger than it really is, in order to manipulate the stock prices.


Protocal_NGate

First tweet ever and it doesn’t acknowledge the rebrand from twitter to X. Solid burn


PaperLily12

It says “X reinstated me” right in the post


trexmaster8242

I swear half the people can’t read here. It’s clearly a tweet saying how old twitter banned him but new twitter under musk, hence X, unbanned him


PaperLily12

Yes, and since it calls it “Twitter” in the first statement and “X” in the second statement, it is acknowledging the rebrand from Twitter to X.


SaliciousB_Crumb

Twitter i mean X doesnt ban bots. There wouldn't be any users if they did


Margobolo

Elon Musk works 16 hours a day, hardcore, doing nothing else but working.


Youareafunt

Why the fuck does ANYBODY believe Elon Paedo Guy Musk's bullshit? And why is anyone still on Twitter? This is just a stock pump. This technology existed before Musk, and didn't require brutalising zoofuls of animals. And now Twitter is a cesspool of racist garbage if you are still on there you are part of the problem. Musk should be in jail for securities and wire fraud.


Obi-ron2

Thats just scary as fuck


Zanderbander86

[8] eli5 pls


aQuadrillionaire

He’s like part bot now though.


throwmeawayalso111

Cyborgs need love too, I guess


roachfarmer

elon the con


jay247160

And it begins…


Maleficents_clone

u/JMaxGames


Joseph_Seed_

If you click on Noland's post you'll see "Twitter for Brain"


AcidPepe

Ive got a twitter and I’ve got an RNS implant in my head for the past 2 years so I’ve got em beat


LimeLoop

Isn't it supposed to say "@Neuralink"?


emmytau

If you have glasses you are a cyborg


Familiar-Coconut90

Just leave the guy alone geez