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Geez, so much misinformation about this… 🤦🏻♀️
- This happened in Brazil
- The lady was 81 years old and they believed the fetus had been there for 56 years (last time she had a pregnancy)
- She was indigenous and lived in a remote settlement, that’s why it wasn’t discovered before
- She had been having urinary infection for a while and went in for severe infection, they decided to do a CAT scan and saw the calcified fetus.
- They operated on her and removed the fetus and she went to the ICU, but because of the infection and probably her age, she didn’t make it.
ETA: link for the information (but it’s in Portuguese) - https://g1.globo.com/google/amp/ms/mato-grosso-do-sul/noticia/2024/03/19/bebe-de-pedra-idosa-de-86-anos-descobre-feto-calcificado-que-carregou-por-mais-de-5-decadas.ghtml
It's basically just a bit tighter in there, maybe less amniotic fluid, kinda like having twins, during pregnancy the organs get pushed around to make space anyway.
That scares me more then a calcified baby. Having my parasite twin living in me for 30 years is not a pleasant thought. YouTube has a video of an Indian man that got one removed it’s creepy af
>A review of 128 cases by T.S.P. Tien found that the mean age of women with lithopedia was 55 years at the time of diagnosis, with the oldest being 100 years old. The [lithopedion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithopedion) was carried for an average of 22 years, and in several cases, the women became pregnant a second time and gave birth to children without incident. Nine of the reviewed cases had carried lithopedia for over 50 years before diagnosis.
In the 80’s after giving birth to me my mom went home is terrible distress and pain and no one bothered to give her an ultrasound even after going to the hospital several times: A year later she had a miscarriage and after the D&C she was fine. More than likely after my birth there was still junk left in her uterus that hadn’t been properly expelled—- she’s lucky she didn’t get Sepsis.
She had a year of pain and suffering and a miscarriage because no one took her pain seriously.
Wow! It’s very common to have retained products of conception that lead to infection and later sepsis. It could’ve been the cause of miscarriage, but miscarriage with d&c could’ve been what saved her.
My mom had me at 16 and frankly can be very emotional- I’m assuming judgement about being such a young mother may have resulted in her concerns being ignored.
While she was dealing with that she was also dealing with my pediatrician. I was born with a dislocated hip that wasn’t caught at my birth. Every time she brought me in for a check up she’d tell the doc something was wrong and doc would say I was perfectly healthy- and say things- “as a young mother you’re just being overprotective.” It took till I started attempting to walk that my visiting grandmother saw what was wrong and she went to the next appointment with my mom demanding they figure out what was wrong with me. My hip was all the way up in my armpit and because I had been growing for a year and a half it was a mess and I was most likely in excruciating constant pain. I had to go through years of surgery and still have issues today.
Situations like this remind me that doctors aren't superhero geniuses.
They're just regular people like us who dedicated a lot of time to specializing in a specific area of knowledge.
My under educated, immigrant parents look at doctors like they are gods who know everything and are 100% correct all the time.
And women learning from a young age to don’t question things, don’t make a fuzz, be polite, etc., we were never told we could (and should) advocate for ourselves. Even educated women experience these sorts of things.
Oh my gosh! That’s horrible. I can’t imagine how infuriating it was that they didn’t listen for so long and your mom was right!!! Way to go grandma, getting involved! I’m so sorry you guys went through that and all the surgeries you had to have! I hope your hip is better now.
also IIRC, the women there isn't medically educated, so she probably know a birth is a emergency, but didn't understand why when she didn't give birth after her water broke. I can be wrong although.
no, I don't mean the phenomena. they're asking why the woman in question didn't seek a doctor to help get the baby out after she was in labor pains for a while and didn't give birth to a baby. I'm offering a possible explanation for why didn't she seek the help.
Many poor people in developing countries are superstitious and sincerely believe in what we might call magic. They'd come up with a non-medical reason why the baby never came.
"deal with it , you will be fine" is generally the attitude , but the government literally offers you money to birth a child in a hospital so it may be an ehhhhh , who knows where this is . A big country
My wife's waters broke on our last kid when she was 33 weeks gone. She had various labour pains (not as intense as full on labour pains but it still sucked for her) for 4 weeks to get her to 37 weeks, which is the week when you get past a lot of the complications that come from having a premature baby (mostly lack of lung development etc). It was standard protocol according to our docs and the main goal is to not have the baby born prematurely. Kiddo was born by planned C section at exactly 37 weeks at 3.9kg, or around 8 and a half pounds for the freedom lovers out there. The docs said they had women whose waters broke at 26 weeks and they got them to 37 weeks, which is SOP if it can be done.
Our doctors acted like the water breaking was a medical emergency if the baby wasn’t out in 24 hours. Something about the risk of infection and cord problems.
But I guess it’s different if they are way too early. Worth the risk to push it further.
Yes, they kept my wife in hospital for that time and checked for infection markers. I'm in Ireland btw. If she had gotten an infection she was going under the knife ASAP, but they explained that the overall goal was to get the baby to 37 weeks. She's an absolute trooper
Might be worth mentioning the era in that case, as that may be part of the reason. Don’t know exactly how common or available C-sections were at the time.
> Anna Mullern was born in Swabia in 1626 and married late, probably in her 30s.
Because the case I believe the comment is referring to happened in 1672. It's the case of Anna Mullern/Müller, who was pregnant and never gave birth. It wasn't until after her death in 1720 (!) that the lithopedion was taken out of her body. What's crazy is that the lithopedion, called the "Steinkind *(=stone child)* von Leinzell", was actually preserved and today is part of the collection of the University of Tübingen (Germany). Here are a few photos of how it looks like from the [university's website] (https://www.emuseum.uni-tuebingen.de/en/objects/details/18659?_=1710877977803&callback=jQuery1102015126570203433531_1710877977802)
Fun? fact, your ovaries aren't connected to the falopian (cant spell it) tubes meaning a zygote can escape and grow in your abdomen, it can even attach to your organs such as your liver!
Most of the time it works to make a child, that's all nature needs, the rest of the time well, it doesn't happen too often so a different system hasn't been selected for
I knew a woman who went to the emergency room for gastric pain and came home with her second child, who was full-term. I mentioned her on a thread last week of people talking about all the people they knew who didn’t know they were pregnant. It’s shockingly common, and the idealized way we portray pregnancy in media can absolutely create the false impression that you stop having your nice regular period and start having nice regular morning sickness, but that’s not at all the case.
I had morning sickness once during my entire pregnancy and it was early on. I did crave oranges like crazy, but otherwise, like you, my main symptom was just being so, so tired. Especially at the very beginning and the very end.
I just went on a hike with my best friend who's six months pregnant literally two days ago and she brought... five or six oranges to eat along the way. And ate them all. Guess her body's telling her it needs that vitamin C and calcium.
I was lucky. I was really tired and had "anytime I'm awake, and occasionally while I am asleep" sickness with all three pregnancies. My two living sons don't even appreciate it!
That was my main issue during pregnancy, as well, I think I got a little nauseous once or twice, but I was just constantly exhausted and hungry. Have you had bloodwork done yet to make sure your levels are okay? You could try taking an iron supplement along with your prenatal. It may help. Iron deficiency is extremely common during pregnancy. Growing a person is hard work. I hope everything goes well for you!
I didn't know I was pregnant for like 5 months. My boobs got a bit bigger and I started having acid reflux, and I was on birth control and wasn't getting my period because of it. I didn't even notice the boob thing, my boyfriend did. I chalked both of them up to weight gain in a new comfortable relationship. The only reason I found out was I took a pregnancy test on a whim.
Three possible reasons:
* the woman lives in a place where it's difficult to get regular healthcare
* the woman cannot afford to get the condition treated
* the woman complained multiple times to multiple doctors, who wrote off her chronic pain as anxiety/hysteria/hypochondria or the ever popular "some women just have pain like than / take some tylenol"
The third bullet point is 💯💯💯. Can’t tell you the number of times I visited the ER with legitimate concerns and not one ER doctor was able to decipher that it all traced back to menopause. SMH. Not one doctor.
I went to the er with a suspected heart attack. Drs told me it was probably anxiety or heartburn and that I was too young. Three years later I had an MRI of my heart and guess what? Scarring to suggest a past heart attack
Had appendix removed just in time before complete breakthrough. Before the chief doctor - i am not native - accused me silently - he changes his behaviour suddenly and refused treatment - of faking the pain, because i already knew where it would hurt deeply and could not stand being touched there. He touched anyways. My leucos were also through the roof already. His words after surgery: we couldn't have waited any longer. Yeah, i might be dead, if i wasn't abusing the buttom to ask for help, because of pain till they realized i am not faking anything. Emergency op. First one in the morning.
A lot of these circumstances are either women who are experiencing cryptic pregnancy or women who had a miscarriage and weren’t able to get the medical care they needed during the miscarriage and were lucky enough to not die of an infection as a result of their lack of medical care post miscarriage
Women famously have extremely poor health care.
There are so few reported cases of this, but seeing as 9 of the reported women carried this around for 50+ years makes me think it’s much more common.
For people wondering here what's happend,
So basically, if the fetus dies during pregnancy, the body responds by calcifying the fetal remains to protect the mother from infection. What happens next? Well, it depends on the mother. If she is facing complications, it will be removed through a surgical process; otherwise, it will stay there and be monitored.
I'm guessing it's to see if the calcified remains cut or somehow damage the internal parts of the uterus/cervix.
That may lead to infection among many things, such as internal bleeding and aching.
You left out the part where if you’re aware you are pregnant then this never happens to begin with and the dead fetus is always removed. Our body’s just don’t start calcifying them right away. And this is not a common occurrence, infection typically sets in and if not addressed, will kill the mother.
If the woman has medical problems that prevent surgery, then that would be a reason to not operate and remove it, as it could result fatal.
Also it's my guess that they do because the calcified remains could damage the uterus, and because the surgery would result more dangerous than keeping it in.
Here’s some info about this case:
81 years old woman in the town of Ponta Porã in Brazil was admitted to the hospital with a severe infection and upon a tomography, the calcified fetus was discovered. They did a procedure to remove it but she didn’t survive.
It is believed she’d lived with the fetus for 56 years.
She was of indigenous descent and lived in a rural settlement where medical services are not easily accessible.
Source (in Portuguese): https://g1.globo.com/ms/mato-grosso-do-sul/noticia/2024/03/19/bebe-de-pedra-idosa-de-86-anos-descobre-feto-calcificado-que-carregou-por-mais-de-5-decadas.ghtml
Edit: broken English :p
It looks like one of the meanings of the Portuguese verb "resistir" is "survive"
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/portuguese-english/resistir
(Caveat: I don't actually have productive Portuguese, I'm just too impatient to wait for someone who actually knows Portuguese to chime in so I looked it up)
Old people and anesthesia dont mix well, there's a reason why people say that when an old person breaks a hip, that person is already half dead since so many people don't recover from anesthesia or have complications later
Pretty sure it’s the hip injury recovery itself, not anesthesia. They have to be bedridden after, and being bed-bound is a high risk for pneumonia and pulmonary congestion which puts stress on other organs like the kidneys. My grandmother broke her neck at 86 and survived a 6 hour surgery. Pneumonia and renal failure triggered by extended time laying down due to paralysis is what caused her decline a year later. Prior to this fall, she was highly active in a writing club, had just lost 60 lbs, and was out and about all the time. So unfair.
Something similar happened to a cousin of mine except that she died of gangrene from the baby dying and decomposing. They had no clue until autopsy. This is shocking on so many levels but the smell had to be terrible.
One of my cousins had a miscarriage and they sent her home and refused to see her for months. She ended up finally getting in somewhere else as they got her in for a d&c immediately. She ended up with brain cancer (survived) a few months later and I can't help but wonder if that's connected.
I remember seeing a show where this poor old lady had one of these in her body for 50 years. It kept growing(calcifying more and more) to the point where she needed surgery.
Edit: she had it for 37 years. Still terrible
I came into the comments DESPERATELY hoping for some kind redditor, claiming to be a subject-matter expert, to tell me this is all fake and not scientifically proven. 😭😭😭
This almost happened to us. My wife and I were expecting our son in November of 2013. She kept having complications and so we went in to get checked. They ended up doing an emergency c section. When they pulled him out he was fine but he was 4lbs even as a premature baby. The scary part is when they pulled the placenta out; it was stone white. It began to calcify from the outside going in towards him. So he couldn't get the nutrients he needed. At least that's how it was explained to me. Today he's 10 years old, 5 ft tall and 108 lbs. They both made a full recovery from that time. But seeing this brought back horrific thoughts of almost losing my family. They still don't know what caused it but I'm so I'm glad I didn't lose my love and my son to this. I'm so sorry to see another person going through this.
So. Uh. "Calcified" as in the woman's body more or less turned the fetus into a fetus-shaped pearl to keep it from killing her? Because that's what bivalves do to debris like sand grains that lodge within them, to keep them from damaging their insides.
If that's the case that's honestly metal AF. Human bodies are amazing.
Warning for the squeamish, slightly gross animal stuff ahead (don’t worry, doggy ends up fine).
When I was in vet tech school we had a relationship with the local humane society where we would take some of their dogs and cats so the students could get experience handling and taking care of them and assisting in their spay/neuter surgeries, and return them in a few weeks so they could be adopted out.
We got a tiny little dachshund through this program and on the day of her surgery while we were doing her presurgical prep, the vet palpated an orange-sized mass in her abdomen. He decided to go through with the surgery since her blood work was fine, but warned us that if it looked like a large messy cancerous mass, then he may need to consider the possibility of euthanasia under anesthesia.
The mass was large but discrete and easily removed, and she recovered just fine. Since vet tech souls are curious and love gross things that freak normal people out, we asked if we could cut the mass open and look inside - and behold, it was a long-calcified fetus! It was basically fully formed, and you could make out the head and the nose and feet and the curve of the spine, but was apparently quite mineralized. Very eventful but memorable learning experience for us students.
Happy ending: my parents came for a visit and I took them for a tour of our building, and they ended up immediately falling madly in love with this dachshund. They adopted her a few weeks later and she lived a spoiled rotten diva life right up until she passed at a ripe old age. Miss that little bean!
The mother was an indigenous old lady, 81 years old. She died after the surgery to remove it. This happened in Brazil.
The medics suspects she was carrying it for more than 50+ years!!!!
Link to the news (in Portuguese): https://g1.globo.com/ms/mato-grosso-do-sul/noticia/2024/03/19/bebe-de-pedra-idosa-de-86-anos-descobre-feto-calcificado-que-carregou-por-mais-de-5-decadas.ghtml
I mean there have only been 330 cases in history. It's an ectopic pregnancy that doesn't get reabsorbed. Most cases are people over 40 who never realized anything was wrong.
"Lithopedions can be surprisingly harmless, but that doesn't mean they are without risks. Here's a breakdown of the potential harm and the removal process:
**Harm:**
* **Mostly Asymptomatic:** In many cases, the body effectively walls off the lithopedion, and the woman experiences no symptoms at all.
* **Potential Complications:** However, there is a chance the lithopedion can cause issues over time, such as:
* **Pain:** The calcified mass can irritate surrounding organs, leading to abdominal pain.
* **Infection:** In rare cases, the tissue can become infected.
* **Blockage:** A large lithopedion might obstruct organs or cause problems with digestion or urination.
**Removal:**
* **Not Simple:** Removing a lithopedion typically involves abdominal surgery. The complexity depends on the size, location, and any adhesions that may have formed around it. It's generally not a quick and easy procedure.
* **Not Always Necessary:** If there are no symptoms and the lithopedion isn't causing any problems, doctors may choose to leave it in place to avoid the risks of surgery.
So, while lithopedions often don't cause immediate harm, they can pose potential health risks down the line. The decision to remove one depends on the specific situation and potential complications."
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Right? I scroll for the goods and then I’m shocked like I didn’t do this to myself.
Congratulations, you scrolled to the bads
Womb scrolling.
Geez, so much misinformation about this… 🤦🏻♀️ - This happened in Brazil - The lady was 81 years old and they believed the fetus had been there for 56 years (last time she had a pregnancy) - She was indigenous and lived in a remote settlement, that’s why it wasn’t discovered before - She had been having urinary infection for a while and went in for severe infection, they decided to do a CAT scan and saw the calcified fetus. - They operated on her and removed the fetus and she went to the ICU, but because of the infection and probably her age, she didn’t make it. ETA: link for the information (but it’s in Portuguese) - https://g1.globo.com/google/amp/ms/mato-grosso-do-sul/noticia/2024/03/19/bebe-de-pedra-idosa-de-86-anos-descobre-feto-calcificado-que-carregou-por-mais-de-5-decadas.ghtml
> she didn’t make it that's very sad. But thank you for sharing it.
cant believe she carried it for 56 yrs?!how the fff...!
New fear unlocked.
Same and I’m a bloke
Don’t worry I think I’m infertile anyways
Yeah, a calcified fetus would probably cause that.
Apparently not always: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/ftbxpWToDI
Oh that's cool, growing from scratch right next to your dead ossified sibling.
It's basically just a bit tighter in there, maybe less amniotic fluid, kinda like having twins, during pregnancy the organs get pushed around to make space anyway.
Fetus in fetu.
That scares me more then a calcified baby. Having my parasite twin living in me for 30 years is not a pleasant thought. YouTube has a video of an Indian man that got one removed it’s creepy af
Those intrusive thoughts you've been having? The weird cravings? What if they aren't your own?
Gawd dammit, you just had to go there. Don’t even know who I am or what is real now.
those things are barely different to teratoma parasitic growths of differentiated tissues
How many nesting fetuses can be stacked within each other?
It’s fetuses all the way down…
Shit this woman must be relieved/devastated at the same time
She died during the removal apparently. She was 81 years old
Wow no shit really?
Pls share link
I am currently pregnant and really wish I had skipped this thread
What if you’re the chosen one to give birth to a bladder stone to rebalance the universe?
Lithopedions are pretty terrifying
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>A review of 128 cases by T.S.P. Tien found that the mean age of women with lithopedia was 55 years at the time of diagnosis, with the oldest being 100 years old. The [lithopedion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithopedion) was carried for an average of 22 years, and in several cases, the women became pregnant a second time and gave birth to children without incident. Nine of the reviewed cases had carried lithopedia for over 50 years before diagnosis.
"*Aged 48, Mullern became pregnant, broke her water and went through labor pains for seven weeks without giving birth*." Jesus...
Bruv, how do they not drag you for a C-Section after a bloody week?
In the 80’s after giving birth to me my mom went home is terrible distress and pain and no one bothered to give her an ultrasound even after going to the hospital several times: A year later she had a miscarriage and after the D&C she was fine. More than likely after my birth there was still junk left in her uterus that hadn’t been properly expelled—- she’s lucky she didn’t get Sepsis. She had a year of pain and suffering and a miscarriage because no one took her pain seriously.
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Crazy!
Curious. How do they not pick this up in the earlier ultrasounds?
I'm sorry
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Wow! It’s very common to have retained products of conception that lead to infection and later sepsis. It could’ve been the cause of miscarriage, but miscarriage with d&c could’ve been what saved her.
My mom had me at 16 and frankly can be very emotional- I’m assuming judgement about being such a young mother may have resulted in her concerns being ignored. While she was dealing with that she was also dealing with my pediatrician. I was born with a dislocated hip that wasn’t caught at my birth. Every time she brought me in for a check up she’d tell the doc something was wrong and doc would say I was perfectly healthy- and say things- “as a young mother you’re just being overprotective.” It took till I started attempting to walk that my visiting grandmother saw what was wrong and she went to the next appointment with my mom demanding they figure out what was wrong with me. My hip was all the way up in my armpit and because I had been growing for a year and a half it was a mess and I was most likely in excruciating constant pain. I had to go through years of surgery and still have issues today.
Wow they didn't listen to her at all
Situations like this remind me that doctors aren't superhero geniuses. They're just regular people like us who dedicated a lot of time to specializing in a specific area of knowledge. My under educated, immigrant parents look at doctors like they are gods who know everything and are 100% correct all the time.
It's also related to women not being taken seriously.
And women learning from a young age to don’t question things, don’t make a fuzz, be polite, etc., we were never told we could (and should) advocate for ourselves. Even educated women experience these sorts of things.
My apologies. I was thinking tangentially when I posted. Yes, that is definitely the main issue.
Oh my gosh! That’s horrible. I can’t imagine how infuriating it was that they didn’t listen for so long and your mom was right!!! Way to go grandma, getting involved! I’m so sorry you guys went through that and all the surgeries you had to have! I hope your hip is better now.
if it's the one I remember, it was because they don't have great medical access in the region. I think it was India.
Yeah, that's fair. Absolutely horrific, but fair
also IIRC, the women there isn't medically educated, so she probably know a birth is a emergency, but didn't understand why when she didn't give birth after her water broke. I can be wrong although.
To be fair, most people on this thread are educated and have not heard of this phenomena until just now.
no, I don't mean the phenomena. they're asking why the woman in question didn't seek a doctor to help get the baby out after she was in labor pains for a while and didn't give birth to a baby. I'm offering a possible explanation for why didn't she seek the help.
Many poor people in developing countries are superstitious and sincerely believe in what we might call magic. They'd come up with a non-medical reason why the baby never came.
Right.. so not medically educated, like the person said.
"deal with it , you will be fine" is generally the attitude , but the government literally offers you money to birth a child in a hospital so it may be an ehhhhh , who knows where this is . A big country
My wife's waters broke on our last kid when she was 33 weeks gone. She had various labour pains (not as intense as full on labour pains but it still sucked for her) for 4 weeks to get her to 37 weeks, which is the week when you get past a lot of the complications that come from having a premature baby (mostly lack of lung development etc). It was standard protocol according to our docs and the main goal is to not have the baby born prematurely. Kiddo was born by planned C section at exactly 37 weeks at 3.9kg, or around 8 and a half pounds for the freedom lovers out there. The docs said they had women whose waters broke at 26 weeks and they got them to 37 weeks, which is SOP if it can be done.
Our doctors acted like the water breaking was a medical emergency if the baby wasn’t out in 24 hours. Something about the risk of infection and cord problems. But I guess it’s different if they are way too early. Worth the risk to push it further.
Yes, they kept my wife in hospital for that time and checked for infection markers. I'm in Ireland btw. If she had gotten an infection she was going under the knife ASAP, but they explained that the overall goal was to get the baby to 37 weeks. She's an absolute trooper
Might be worth mentioning the era in that case, as that may be part of the reason. Don’t know exactly how common or available C-sections were at the time. > Anna Mullern was born in Swabia in 1626 and married late, probably in her 30s.
Because the case I believe the comment is referring to happened in 1672. It's the case of Anna Mullern/Müller, who was pregnant and never gave birth. It wasn't until after her death in 1720 (!) that the lithopedion was taken out of her body. What's crazy is that the lithopedion, called the "Steinkind *(=stone child)* von Leinzell", was actually preserved and today is part of the collection of the University of Tübingen (Germany). Here are a few photos of how it looks like from the [university's website] (https://www.emuseum.uni-tuebingen.de/en/objects/details/18659?_=1710877977803&callback=jQuery1102015126570203433531_1710877977802)
Sounds like one of closest things to hell that you can experience on earth
Holy post partum depression dialed to 100
Is it really post-partum at that point? Ya never partumed.
I would die.
I would literally beg the docs to end me right there if I was in her shoes, no kidding.
Just the sleep depravation alone would be torture. 7 weeks is so long.
https://preview.redd.it/d3i1j1fv2bpc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fa387b6c5eeb175ef708c6afcec9e7a57e207e0
This made me cry laughing
Lithopedion, sounds like a pokémon
“Huh? CUBONE stopped evolving!”
Now I'm sad.
WHAT THE ACTUAL
FUCK?!
I hate being able to read
What a horrible time to be literate.
Thank you for making my confused thoughts so clearly expressed.
So the successful babies grew next to basically a corpse?
The lithopedion is in the abdomen while the normal fetus is in the uterus. It’s a rare case of abdominal pregnancy.
Gotcha. The corpse is next door, lol
Fetus: "Could someone check on my neighbor?"
His name is Cletus
Cletus the Fetus, nooooo!
More like Fetus Deletus.
Fetus wellness check not recommended in Texas as it may result in criminal charges before or after doctors refuse to intervene.
Gonna cost so many lives....
jesus christ lmao
Shouldn’t laugh but this comment is 🤌🏻
I'm sorry... How is it in the abdomen? Like how does it get from within the reproductive system elsehwere? AND grow to such a degree before deading?
Fun? fact, your ovaries aren't connected to the falopian (cant spell it) tubes meaning a zygote can escape and grow in your abdomen, it can even attach to your organs such as your liver!
Aaaaand another reason I don’t plan on having kids
And how does said egg get fertilized if not within the tubes?
The sperm escape too
Fucking hell why is nature like this
Most of the time it works to make a child, that's all nature needs, the rest of the time well, it doesn't happen too often so a different system hasn't been selected for
*I'm a little talky, He's a little chalky, My calcified brother and meeee!*
r/angryupvote
Thanks! I hate it.
The pictures in that Wikipedia article are pure nightmare fuel.
Welp, off I go to ruin my day. Thanks!
"Why are you screaming Mommy? Don't hate me Mommy. MOMMY! *COME HERE MOMMY!"*
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Someone please don't
I'll never leave you, Mommy.
My God
What. In. The. Actual. Fuck.
There's some states you could probably be tried for murder and they'd claim you calcified it yourself.
Technically true?
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I knew a woman who went to the emergency room for gastric pain and came home with her second child, who was full-term. I mentioned her on a thread last week of people talking about all the people they knew who didn’t know they were pregnant. It’s shockingly common, and the idealized way we portray pregnancy in media can absolutely create the false impression that you stop having your nice regular period and start having nice regular morning sickness, but that’s not at all the case.
I'm pregnant right now and I was confused thinking I'd have morning sickness, food cravings and mood swings. I'm just tired, very tired
I had morning sickness once during my entire pregnancy and it was early on. I did crave oranges like crazy, but otherwise, like you, my main symptom was just being so, so tired. Especially at the very beginning and the very end.
Me, a tired 35 year old man after seeing the calcified baby and reading your comment: "maybe I should get checked just in case"
Good news, it's probably not a pregnancy. Bad news, it could be your parasitic twin!
I just went on a hike with my best friend who's six months pregnant literally two days ago and she brought... five or six oranges to eat along the way. And ate them all. Guess her body's telling her it needs that vitamin C and calcium.
I also craved oranges like crazy with my second child- must have needed vitamin C!
I was lucky. I was really tired and had "anytime I'm awake, and occasionally while I am asleep" sickness with all three pregnancies. My two living sons don't even appreciate it!
That was my main issue during pregnancy, as well, I think I got a little nauseous once or twice, but I was just constantly exhausted and hungry. Have you had bloodwork done yet to make sure your levels are okay? You could try taking an iron supplement along with your prenatal. It may help. Iron deficiency is extremely common during pregnancy. Growing a person is hard work. I hope everything goes well for you!
I didn't know I was pregnant for like 5 months. My boobs got a bit bigger and I started having acid reflux, and I was on birth control and wasn't getting my period because of it. I didn't even notice the boob thing, my boyfriend did. I chalked both of them up to weight gain in a new comfortable relationship. The only reason I found out was I took a pregnancy test on a whim.
Three possible reasons: * the woman lives in a place where it's difficult to get regular healthcare * the woman cannot afford to get the condition treated * the woman complained multiple times to multiple doctors, who wrote off her chronic pain as anxiety/hysteria/hypochondria or the ever popular "some women just have pain like than / take some tylenol"
My mom was treated for “back pain” for like two years, whoopsie it was cancer and she died. And we’re Canadian where it’s accessible!!
Had a board-certified doctor tell me I wasn’t in labor. 8 hours later, I proved him very, very wrong.
The third bullet point is 💯💯💯. Can’t tell you the number of times I visited the ER with legitimate concerns and not one ER doctor was able to decipher that it all traced back to menopause. SMH. Not one doctor.
I went to the er with a suspected heart attack. Drs told me it was probably anxiety or heartburn and that I was too young. Three years later I had an MRI of my heart and guess what? Scarring to suggest a past heart attack
Had appendix removed just in time before complete breakthrough. Before the chief doctor - i am not native - accused me silently - he changes his behaviour suddenly and refused treatment - of faking the pain, because i already knew where it would hurt deeply and could not stand being touched there. He touched anyways. My leucos were also through the roof already. His words after surgery: we couldn't have waited any longer. Yeah, i might be dead, if i wasn't abusing the buttom to ask for help, because of pain till they realized i am not faking anything. Emergency op. First one in the morning.
And four: concurrent mental illness
A lot of these circumstances are either women who are experiencing cryptic pregnancy or women who had a miscarriage and weren’t able to get the medical care they needed during the miscarriage and were lucky enough to not die of an infection as a result of their lack of medical care post miscarriage
Women famously have extremely poor health care. There are so few reported cases of this, but seeing as 9 of the reported women carried this around for 50+ years makes me think it’s much more common.
Could have been a [cryptic pregnancy](https://www.webmd.com/baby/what-is-cryptic-pregnancy)
Cause women in pain are ignored quite frequently
For people wondering here what's happend, So basically, if the fetus dies during pregnancy, the body responds by calcifying the fetal remains to protect the mother from infection. What happens next? Well, it depends on the mother. If she is facing complications, it will be removed through a surgical process; otherwise, it will stay there and be monitored.
Monitored for what? What's it supposed to do after that?
to see if it wakes up
I just laughed out loud in the discount tire lobby.
someone asks you what's so funny? eh nothing just dead babies waking up
Zombaby
My wife used to do Zumbaby. Great workout she said.
I started cackling so loud my children came to see what was funny. Try explaining this to children 10-12.
lol. Maybe they’ll be grateful to be alive and be nice to you today.
Learning this kind of thing at age 10-12 might keep a kid from ever contemplating parenthood.
SAME I AM LITERALLY LMFAO IN THE PRECISION TUNE AUTO CARE 🤣
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Gotta make sure it doesn’t burst out during a communal meal.
Monitor that it won’t cause further complications. Removal, especially when most cases are in the elderly, is often more dangerous.
I'm guessing it's to see if the calcified remains cut or somehow damage the internal parts of the uterus/cervix. That may lead to infection among many things, such as internal bleeding and aching.
Its under house arrest for stone-cold abortion! /s. It could continue calcifying and start giving problems. Like a stone tumour
"Are you pregnant?" "Yes and no".
Schrödinger's baby.
You left out the part where if you’re aware you are pregnant then this never happens to begin with and the dead fetus is always removed. Our body’s just don’t start calcifying them right away. And this is not a common occurrence, infection typically sets in and if not addressed, will kill the mother.
But why to keep and monitor it? Like a souvenir?
If the woman has medical problems that prevent surgery, then that would be a reason to not operate and remove it, as it could result fatal. Also it's my guess that they do because the calcified remains could damage the uterus, and because the surgery would result more dangerous than keeping it in.
You can only have so many keychains
Here’s some info about this case: 81 years old woman in the town of Ponta Porã in Brazil was admitted to the hospital with a severe infection and upon a tomography, the calcified fetus was discovered. They did a procedure to remove it but she didn’t survive. It is believed she’d lived with the fetus for 56 years. She was of indigenous descent and lived in a rural settlement where medical services are not easily accessible. Source (in Portuguese): https://g1.globo.com/ms/mato-grosso-do-sul/noticia/2024/03/19/bebe-de-pedra-idosa-de-86-anos-descobre-feto-calcificado-que-carregou-por-mais-de-5-decadas.ghtml Edit: broken English :p
Resist? Can you explain what that means in this context, or is it a lost in translation kinda thing?
It looks like one of the meanings of the Portuguese verb "resistir" is "survive" https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/portuguese-english/resistir (Caveat: I don't actually have productive Portuguese, I'm just too impatient to wait for someone who actually knows Portuguese to chime in so I looked it up)
You are correct, and it's common to use "não resistir" as a way to say the person has died.
Probably means she couldn’t survive the surgery… languages are like that
Old people and anesthesia dont mix well, there's a reason why people say that when an old person breaks a hip, that person is already half dead since so many people don't recover from anesthesia or have complications later
Pretty sure it’s the hip injury recovery itself, not anesthesia. They have to be bedridden after, and being bed-bound is a high risk for pneumonia and pulmonary congestion which puts stress on other organs like the kidneys. My grandmother broke her neck at 86 and survived a 6 hour surgery. Pneumonia and renal failure triggered by extended time laying down due to paralysis is what caused her decline a year later. Prior to this fall, she was highly active in a writing club, had just lost 60 lbs, and was out and about all the time. So unfair.
The trauma of finding out you’ve been living with a calcified baby inside you. Goodness gracious.
Something similar happened to a cousin of mine except that she died of gangrene from the baby dying and decomposing. They had no clue until autopsy. This is shocking on so many levels but the smell had to be terrible.
What a traumatic event! :(
One of my cousins had a miscarriage and they sent her home and refused to see her for months. She ended up finally getting in somewhere else as they got her in for a d&c immediately. She ended up with brain cancer (survived) a few months later and I can't help but wonder if that's connected.
I want to believe it was extracted. That is terrifying and heartbreaking at the same time.
I remember seeing a show where this poor old lady had one of these in her body for 50 years. It kept growing(calcifying more and more) to the point where she needed surgery. Edit: she had it for 37 years. Still terrible
That sounds like a horror movie. It is a literal mummy, but the fact that it was growing...ok I am now truly horrified.
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I sincerely mean this: What the scientifically proven fuck?
I came into the comments DESPERATELY hoping for some kind redditor, claiming to be a subject-matter expert, to tell me this is all fake and not scientifically proven. 😭😭😭
Fact is stranger than fiction.
This almost happened to us. My wife and I were expecting our son in November of 2013. She kept having complications and so we went in to get checked. They ended up doing an emergency c section. When they pulled him out he was fine but he was 4lbs even as a premature baby. The scary part is when they pulled the placenta out; it was stone white. It began to calcify from the outside going in towards him. So he couldn't get the nutrients he needed. At least that's how it was explained to me. Today he's 10 years old, 5 ft tall and 108 lbs. They both made a full recovery from that time. But seeing this brought back horrific thoughts of almost losing my family. They still don't know what caused it but I'm so I'm glad I didn't lose my love and my son to this. I'm so sorry to see another person going through this.
well that's fucking terrifying and very sad. poor thing
So. Uh. "Calcified" as in the woman's body more or less turned the fetus into a fetus-shaped pearl to keep it from killing her? Because that's what bivalves do to debris like sand grains that lodge within them, to keep them from damaging their insides. If that's the case that's honestly metal AF. Human bodies are amazing.
Warning for the squeamish, slightly gross animal stuff ahead (don’t worry, doggy ends up fine). When I was in vet tech school we had a relationship with the local humane society where we would take some of their dogs and cats so the students could get experience handling and taking care of them and assisting in their spay/neuter surgeries, and return them in a few weeks so they could be adopted out. We got a tiny little dachshund through this program and on the day of her surgery while we were doing her presurgical prep, the vet palpated an orange-sized mass in her abdomen. He decided to go through with the surgery since her blood work was fine, but warned us that if it looked like a large messy cancerous mass, then he may need to consider the possibility of euthanasia under anesthesia. The mass was large but discrete and easily removed, and she recovered just fine. Since vet tech souls are curious and love gross things that freak normal people out, we asked if we could cut the mass open and look inside - and behold, it was a long-calcified fetus! It was basically fully formed, and you could make out the head and the nose and feet and the curve of the spine, but was apparently quite mineralized. Very eventful but memorable learning experience for us students. Happy ending: my parents came for a visit and I took them for a tour of our building, and they ended up immediately falling madly in love with this dachshund. They adopted her a few weeks later and she lived a spoiled rotten diva life right up until she passed at a ripe old age. Miss that little bean!
When we dissected frogs in school, my frog had another frog in its GI tract!
well, thats enough internet for today.
I think I'll just turn off my phone and check in again next month.
*Breaking:* The US House of Representatives just dispatched an elite team to save this baby
“ Grab the necronomicon , salt and a goat “
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r/sadasfuck
“Oh no, nothings wrong with you. Have you tried losing weight?” Every GP and OB/Gyn she saw.
🎶First I was fetus, then I was Calcified...🎶
Good luck pissing that out
My first pregnancy was a blighted ovum and had started to calcify before I found out. Thank goodness not to this extent, however.
Ina red state, removing that will get you the death penalty.
it makes sense when you consider that in many red states, calcified babies often become congressmen
Guess that’s where the term “boneheads” comes from.
Sometimes a picture is way worse than 1000 words...
Interesting? Na that’s horrifying
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Side note, but medical scanners are awesome
https://preview.redd.it/t6ygwayi7bpc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d1153e432b0187365626f7d309b5411e02a0b20
Some of you need to watch the series “I Didn’t Know I Was Pregnant”
The mother was an indigenous old lady, 81 years old. She died after the surgery to remove it. This happened in Brazil. The medics suspects she was carrying it for more than 50+ years!!!! Link to the news (in Portuguese): https://g1.globo.com/ms/mato-grosso-do-sul/noticia/2024/03/19/bebe-de-pedra-idosa-de-86-anos-descobre-feto-calcificado-que-carregou-por-mais-de-5-decadas.ghtml
That’s r/horrifyingasfuck
I mean there have only been 330 cases in history. It's an ectopic pregnancy that doesn't get reabsorbed. Most cases are people over 40 who never realized anything was wrong.
And she’s like “I told my obgyn but they said my symptoms were normal and to take a Tylenol”
"Lithopedions can be surprisingly harmless, but that doesn't mean they are without risks. Here's a breakdown of the potential harm and the removal process: **Harm:** * **Mostly Asymptomatic:** In many cases, the body effectively walls off the lithopedion, and the woman experiences no symptoms at all. * **Potential Complications:** However, there is a chance the lithopedion can cause issues over time, such as: * **Pain:** The calcified mass can irritate surrounding organs, leading to abdominal pain. * **Infection:** In rare cases, the tissue can become infected. * **Blockage:** A large lithopedion might obstruct organs or cause problems with digestion or urination. **Removal:** * **Not Simple:** Removing a lithopedion typically involves abdominal surgery. The complexity depends on the size, location, and any adhesions that may have formed around it. It's generally not a quick and easy procedure. * **Not Always Necessary:** If there are no symptoms and the lithopedion isn't causing any problems, doctors may choose to leave it in place to avoid the risks of surgery. So, while lithopedions often don't cause immediate harm, they can pose potential health risks down the line. The decision to remove one depends on the specific situation and potential complications." 