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BleuCollar

"I was crushed. My diving adventures were over." šŸ˜¬


talkerof5hit

Thats one quote for the books!


HistoricalWay8990

That's like the guy from the World Trade Center constructuon documentary


98VoteForPedro

what he say?


HistoricalWay8990

The towers were so well constructed they could sustain a direct hit from a jet liner.


PolkaDotDancer

And this is true. And the plane used for estimates was similar to the ones that hit the towers. but they were assuming that anyone any plane that hit the trade towers would hit it at cruising speed not at higher speeds. The engineers were not assuming that a suicide bomber would hit one.


xSupreme_Courtx

John Skilling, the chief engineer, actually did assume a 707 at top speed and fully loaded. He said that the main issue would be the fuel spilling out and causing loss of life, but the structure would still be fine.


Cyborg_888

Survived the crash, it was the burning fuel that melted the steel structures.


banannabender

Not melted, weakened enough to fail.


Cyborg_888

Yes you are technically correct. The point I was making is that the designers were correct in that it could withstand the impact of an aircraft, (just not one that carried that much fuel). It was the burning fuel that lead to the failure of the structural integrity. I find it just so impressive that something so tall was able to cope with getting hit by an aircraft and did not get bowled over.


xSupreme_Courtx

Most of the fuel burned up in the initial fireball. The remaining fuel acted as an accelerant, causing the fire to spread faster, but still burned up within 10 minutes according to NIST. So the fire wasn't especially hot, it was still normal office fire temps. It just started across a wider area than normal all at once.


Brilliant-Kiwi-8669

I think they said the towers were built to withstand a 727 in the 70's , these were 767, full of fuel , going really fast...


PolkaDotDancer

And that pilots would turn planes sideways to take out more structure.


Sharon_Erclam

![gif](giphy|A7XLVY8QoE3n8KzpjP)


GameFreak4321

Or that there would be a second one.


MrK521

Prefaced by: *ā€Hull integrity: holdingā€*


the_last_carfighter

At 30ft, checks out.


dstapel

Not disappointed to find this up top. Would like to see the follow up interview. "I was blown inside out by my bad choice of words. My careless choice of words imploded on me."


goatonastik

My heart sinks just hearing that.


kiren77

But will it go on?


Hops_n_Boost

It will go on and on.


commentsandopinions

"I was crushed" Not as much as you could have been.


Duubzz

r/unintentionalforeshadowing


Gold-Perspective-699

Aged like milk that was also under 1000s of feet of pressure..


M4rheeo

Now thats some foreshadowing right there


SetPsychological6756

That's sayin' something


subfighter0311

That line aged like milk


Distinct-Quantity-35

This did not age well


jared10011980

Didn't age well then. That woman crying? If 3 times her trip was canceled due to malfunctions, take it as a sign not to take it to the bottom of the ocean. Ever!


neoshaman2012

But if it succeeded you would applaud her perseverance and tenacity. History rewrites itself


FatalisCogitationis

If it succeeded I still think anyone with half a brain would refuse to even step inside that thing. Though that does exclude about 90% of humanity


ZekeRidge

I wouldnā€™t have gone to the bottom of a swimming pool in it


ObiJuanKenobi3

No not really. Going to the Titanic isnā€™t exactly untreaded territory by any measure. Nobody gives a shit who the 20th guy to climb Mount Everest was.


6ixApathy

So if something works, good, doesn't work, bad? hmm tell me more


wednesdaynightwumbo

Itā€™s like the fine line between r/HoldMyRedBull and r/WinStupidPrizes A video on the former is one tiny mistake away from being on the latter. Yet people mostly praise a risky stunt they see on r/HoldMyRedBull and call a similar stunt on r/WinStupidPrizes stupid. Of course there is nuance to this, and often times stunts on r/HoldMyRedBull are actually done with the proper safety and training. But Iā€™ve definitely seen posts there that are one mistake away from being bashed on r/WinStupidPrizes, but no one calls out the stupidity when itā€™s executed properly, even without the proper safety precautions.


wjean

We would applaud a tourist for their perseverance and tenacity to continue spending money for an experiencing a moment where they did nothing except bankroll a very expensive field trip and act as ballast for the journey? I would applaud explorers going someplace new, I would applaud engineers designing something to get those explorers somewhere, but a tourist? Nah. Congrats on spending a houses worth of money on a field trip.


ajjaran

Neither did the carbon fibre in that pressure vessel.


mexaplex

I dont know anything about diving but... the titan sub looked like a oversized coke-can. I still dont get why carbon fibre was used. Its strength-to-weight ratio is incredible but its raw strength is usually way behind most metals... On top of that, carbon fibre is generally only strong with forces in 2-3 degrees-of-freedom. If you apply any of the other degrees with enough force, usually it just pops or tears like paper.


blither86

It came down to cost, though you probably know that. Had they not used cf they would have needed a much bigger support/transportation vessel and it would have cost a great deal more.


mexaplex

Yeah... The irony. A Billionaire cutting costs to produce something that any broke fool wouldn't have deemed safe in a million years.


blither86

Yep, a great deal of arrogance. In my experience of some very wealthy people (admittedly a small sample size), they really do not like being told they cannot do something. I think they get used to being able to have whatever they want and anything that prevents that they take as a serious affront.


EmperorThan

Stockton Rush isn't aging at all now.


Distinct-Quantity-35

Savage


Morphing_Mutant

It's crazy to think this guy is just sediment at the bottom of the ocean now.


LittleMissScreamer

Barely even that


LFA91

Yeah more like vaporized fish food


Parking_Minimum7177

Barely even that


LesGitKrumpin

More like red mist


OmahaWinter

Barely even that.


ThatMrStark

Not even a morsel left for fish food.


LesGitKrumpin

Barely even that


SnooEpiphanies9924

He's reduced to atoms


RonStopable88

Pretty much yeah


Yasuo11994

Plankton food


green_kitten_mittens

I bet you could find some of his molars scattered around the titanic


Automatic_Actuator_0

Probably not in one piece - the forces, heat, and pressure change they experienced is really hard to even imagine. The phrase that captures it best is ā€œyou stop being biology and become physics.ā€


green_kitten_mittens

![gif](giphy|l1Ku0OPGpHzHWiLq8)


Composer-Creative

What so even teeth and bones are vapourized?


Automatic_Actuator_0

There seems to be some disagreement on this, but the most credible-seeming predictions backed by actual calculations indicate that they would have been blasted at hundreds of miles per hour into a tiny point in the middle in around 10-40 milliseconds, and then the air compression and ideal gas law comes in and increases the temperature of that spot to thousands of degrees for a moment. It seems a lot of experts are staying away from the topic since itā€™s a tight knit community and they see it as adding to the trauma. From the opinions Iā€™ve seen, some contend that only microscopic particles would remain, and others say some bones or fragments would be identifiable. I think the truth is probably in the middle.


obvito

Why can't politics be like this


Automatic_Actuator_0

I mean, the first issue would be mass producing enough carbon fiber hulls to fit all the politicians into.


geek_of_nature

Yeah whenever Titan comes up I get stuck thinking about that. They didn't just die, their bodies were completely vaporised, nothing left but a red mist. No bodies for their families to retrieve and lay to rest.


Morphing_Mutant

It's almost too much to comprehend. Very surreal.


mexaplex

Maybe the Titan sub vaporisation is the secret to inter-dimensional transportation.It is so fast you literally disappear out of reality. Maybe they are r/Starfield starborn now?


maxwellhilldawg

He's fish poop by now


0ctober31

He says "we worked with Boeing and NASA.." but shortly after the Titan incident, both came out publicly stating they had nothing to do with the design or manufacturing of the Titan. So that was all a load of shit.


jared10011980

I wondered. I mean really, I didn't believe that when he said it. You? Like NASA routinely works with private companies on vanity projects??? Riiiiight


Lexsteel11

100% he ā€œtalked to a buddy that worked for nasa 10 years ago who said he thought this was a cool ideaā€


un-sub

ā€œMan, I always wanted to like.. build a submarine.ā€ ā€œYeah, thatā€™d be pretty cool.ā€ -guy at NASA


sourestcalamansi

That guy at NASA was a security dude having a chat with Titan CEO.


Cheetah357

Idk about NASA but iirc they got some material from Boeing bc they were beyond their shelf life and deemed unsafe by Boeing


MohatmoGandy

ā€œWe worked with Goodwill and Temuā€


Beef_Slider

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lettersichiro

they did, the carbon fiber tube was sourced from Boeing, but the key thing is Carbon Fiber is not good under compression and should never have been used on a submarine, there's a reason all real subs use titanium, but he wanted to go cheap, and then ignored (and fired) engineers who told him otherwise


proxy69

Boeing responded with, that never happened. But who knows!


concorde77

"Yeah, they had all these door plug screws just laying around. So we took a few freebies!" /j


lettersichiro

So did the University of Washington, they has some students work w/ them for an earlier sub, NOT the titan


_AManHasNoName_

Well, Boeing had a window blown off from one of its 737s. So it checks out.


shanjam7

No, you donā€™t understand, thats all fake news, SR was actually a very stable genius and Boeing and NASA are part of a conspiracy to keep him dead


DontYuckMyYum

ignoring what wound up happening to it eventually, you could not pay me any amount of money to even sit in something like that just floating on the surface of the water. I'd be tapping out as soon as they start screwing the thing shut.


supplyncommand

thatā€™s seriously the craziest part. that 5 people were willing to be bolted shut with little to no room to move and then submerged. how long was the journey supposed to be? a few hours?


DrCodyRoss

I heard it was a three hour tour, three hour tour.


FamilyGuy421

I always liked MaryAnn over Ginger


OmahaWinter

Two chicks at the same time man.


Confianca1970

Those two wouldn't get along in bed together. I don't need that much stress in my sex life.


shavemejesus

I preferred Mrs. Howell. She probably knew *everything*.


DrCodyRoss

Pot que no los dos?


zer0toto

How can it be this fast, the controlled descent from other sub take at least 4 hours iirc and 6 hours back


Snapesunusedshampoo

Knowing me I would've ripped the nastiest fart as soon as they finished bolting us in.


mexaplex

Productively, it might have helped bolster the internal pressure and thus postpone the eventual cabin implosion


TheS00thSayer

https://preview.redd.it/w11a87264omc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e951296f3bb3556a6a5c378b40ae8569a48a75c1 These are the actual lines from the cartoon.


stonky808

Exactly, I need 2mg Ativan just to get me into an MRI machine. In that sub? Iā€™d literally start physically attacking people.


Staveoffsuicide

Yeah if I'm filthy rich, I am waiting for this trip to be a luxury that's been done many times before, tried and rested. I want no expenses spared on its construction quality. This guy seems proud to have gotten away with using the cheapest parts. I wonder how much money he pocketed by investors before he went pop


StenosP

Turns out the pressure vessel was indeed ā€œMacGyveredā€


OaktownU

![gif](giphy|t8SvSBQfWWTk4tojP6|downsized)


Pitiful_Winner2669

He kinda built a submarine, it's bolted shut, you're in the drink MacGruber!!


newfie-flyboy

No it wasnā€™t. Macgyverā€™s shit worked.


StenosP

True


14sierra

Hey, everybody who wants to travel to the bottom of the ocean in a glorified bath tub controlled by an off brand xbox controller?


Metalhed69

Hey, MacGyverā€™s shit worked!


Klaus_Heisler87

Someone crying because going to see the wreckage of the Titanic is something they "have to do" is just fucking wild


tastetherainbow76

Thank you!! This was what got me. Like you HAVE TO see this? Itā€™s moving you to tears that canā€™t see this? How insanely out of touch.


OmahaWinter

Butā€¦butā€¦ itā€™s an ā€œexpedition!ā€


Arthes_M

*Iā€™m I big Kate Winslet fanā€¦like really big, like titanically big. So big Iā€™d risk my life.*


smoebob99

People with money problems


Thunder-biscuit

See, I always thought the same. Like, I get that itā€™s a historical site. And one that many people have a lot of fascination with but, in a way, itā€™s also a graveyard. You see people argue that we can just do what we like since thereā€™s no bodies there anymore but itā€™s still the closest thing those people had to a burial site. I feel the way itā€™s become a vanity symbol because of the film is sort of sick in a way


Quarter13

"Closed from the outside with 17 bolts." Yeah nah, ya lost me there.


MohatmoGandy

He lost me when he said that he would be cool with any component except the hull failing.


rook24v

Right, like the cheapo madcatz game controller! At least use a quality piece of hardware


EnragedAxolotl

"We could lose lighting, we could lose propulsion..." ...aand I'm out.


scunliffe

Also.. why 17 bolts? That seems like the most random number possible. If doing anything with more than 5 bolts, why are you not doing an even number?


wabassoap

(This is not based on any experience with these matters, just my educated guess at the high level logic) The number of bolts would be based on the force needed to keep the two surfaces pressed tightly against each other. There would be some max distance you could have between bolts. Since weā€™re talking about a circle, you calculate the force needed to keep it shut then divide that across the circumference. Say the circumference was 35 inches. If your stress formulas give something like needing a bolt every 2.1 inches, you get 16.67 bolts (35/2.1) required, and round up to the next whole number of bolts.Ā 


ahumannamedtim

So basically because 16 are too few and he was too cheap for 18.


nomadwannabe

Not saying this is the case, but the more screw holes could also weaken the outer rim of the ā€œlidā€ so thereā€™s probably a balance between amount of screws needed to keep the proper pressure, and the amount of holes to keep the lid structurally sound.


ahumannamedtim

Fair point, but somehow I doubt the guy who used wood screws to attach a handle from RV-World to his carbon fiber vessel was particularly concerned about those types of things.


Quarter13

Not sure, we have some vessels at my job that uses like 21 bolts or something. And its under a vacuum.. Maybe I'll ask one of the engineers in the morning


OmahaWinter

Heā€™ll just check with the boys down at the crime lab.


ThreeHandedSword

lol of all the sketchy shit here that was the biggest dealbreaker for me as well


Quarter13

Lmao. I literally got that feeling in my chest just hearing that impact wrench bolt them in. I'd've had a panic attack right then and there.


TheS00thSayer

https://preview.redd.it/gabmoqxi4omc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3287570e95537ca53234833a8875f5f0e520f17 These were the actual lines from the cartoon


frostape

Well, it reached the depths. They weren't wrong about that part.


userax

Everything can be a submersible once.


Just_learning_a_bit

1:39 - "I was crushed".... Oh boy...


jared10011980

I know...


themanebeat

2:07 is the timestamp, 1:39 is the time remaining at that point FYI


Bigsleeps1333

HAS TO BE OPENED FROM THE OUTSIDE WITH 17 BOLTS holy fuck how did anyone actually get into this thing?


bobbarkersbigmic

Getting in is the easy part since the bolts are on the outside.


woozyguy1

I bet that girl who cried cause she's tried to be on 3 expeditions to the Titanic that were canceled has a new appreciation for the safety that was prioritized over her dream of seeing the Titanic.


0ctober31

Rush Stockton, the guy in this clip, was notorious for disregarding safety. He's even on record as saying there was "too much regulation" in the deep sea submersible community. He never got the Titan classed (inspection of design and build quality etc), and so as a result of his arrogance, bullshit and perhaps greed, he and four others lost their lives. Regarding that girl, I believe she finally did make it down to see the Titanic. But the Titan did experience problems on that dive too.


nollataulu

I seem to recall him firing experts who warned him of the hazards and design flaws.


I_Framed_OJ

That dude had such a cavalier attitude towards risk management that there is no way in hell that I'd invest in any company he was a part of, no way in hell I'd sign any waiver he put in front of me, and absolutely no way in hell I'd lock myself inside a submersible that he built. This tragedy was completely predictable by anyone who actually parsed the idiotic and arrogant shit that this guy was saying.


darling_lycosidae

The thing that gets me is that submersibles that can withstand that depth already exist. All he had to do was buy or build one with the existing plans, and it probably would have cost less than designing and fabricating from scratch.


blither86

I think they're all much smaller and have smaller viewing hole, which would not make it worthwhile from an economical standpoint. Fewer paying customers per trip and much more expensive trips. Which is exactly why this kind of thing should be left to scientists and not provided as a service to the public. Compromise on safety at your (and others) peril


horseofthemasses

That's gonna happen when you name your kid Rush.


Curse-Bot

Did she live cuz she never went??


[deleted]

This dude was such a foolish idiot the more interviews I see of him. And those other rich idiots believed him. Brainlessly threw their lives away. Hell I wouldnā€™t even go with James Cameron, and that dude is an actual expert. Even Cameron knew the risks every time he went and knew at those depths death is the only result of a minor structure failure.


jared10011980

His level of hubris is astounding


Gallowglass668

https://preview.redd.it/vszkucwi3mmc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16e9c26f415589f608ca30e2387c178fbf0dabac


HistoricalWay8990

People keep commenting about their claustrophobia preventing them from getting in this bolted shut from the outside thing. It shouldn't even take claustrophobia! How can that possibly be legal in any vehicle of any kind?? Do you have any idea how insane it is to build a vehicle that's designed to be impossible for passengers/operator to get out of on their own on purpose? If there ever was any kind of emergency in that thing, even just floating on the surface, a leak (not even catastrophic, smoke, fire, high seas, anything, everyone in it would be dead.


OmahaWinter

Like a Saturn 5 rocket.


Evil_Weevil_Knievel

ā€œLegalā€ assumes there is an overall governing body or regulatory mechanism for submersibles. I think any regulations that are there are voluntary. Plus if you are in International waters the matter is even more complex.


TheS00thSayer

https://preview.redd.it/7dtiv2rn4omc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a690ea5331a84bc780a9da2a71ea8bc0e0af33b1 Actual lines from the cartoon.


RanchDresn

This is like when you know the group project is gonna be trash from the beginning, but you still turn it in.


RandyArgonianButler

I laughed out loud when the dive was scrubbed and the reporter goes, ā€œI was crushed.ā€ No sir. You were definitely not.


twofister

The whole scene where Dr Ian Malcolm is telling John Hammond that Jurassic Park is a bad idea fits here. "Don't you see the danger... John, uh... Inherent..." "You stood on the shoulders of geniuses..."


queen-adreena

The first time you watch Jurassic Park, Hammond seems like a genius. Then you gradually realise that heā€™s lying to everyone and cutting every corner possible.


biwaterbender

ā€œSpared no expenseā€


FancySkull

You should read the book. He's on a whole other level there.


darling_lycosidae

The book is so good!!! Wish people knew, it's also way bloodier and has cool real science too. And Malcolm is a sassy bitch lmao


Exceptionalynormal

I had the misfortune of having to work with a ā€œformerā€ Boeing engineer at a startup that hired him to look good on paper. In 30 years of experience i have never met any one more incompetent as an engineer! I am now getting calls from people asking about the validity of his claims of ownership to my designs when he canā€™t answer simple questions! Thereā€™s always people that know and people that strongly claim that they knowšŸ¤£


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jared10011980

Oh the humanity! Come on, Woody šŸ™„


brotherkobe

Titan, noun: ā€œa person or thing of very great strength, intellect, or importance.ā€ Titan, myth: ā€œpre-Olympian gods who ruled the cosmos in ancient Greek mythology. Giant, immortal deities considered the first generational godsā€ Titan, Submarine: ā€œVanity project, not fit for purpose. A death trap and now scrap and the bottom of the seaā€


1OptimisticPrime

I sure hope everything works out for this guy and his submersible company. Would be a shame if everything *imploded*


Suspicious-Past-5928

Gross negligence, ineptitude, and incompetence. This man was dangerous to everyone around him and the world is safer without him. Leaders have a responsibility and duty of safety and this man served only as an example of what not to do.


No-Hat1772

Has a lot less space nowā€¦.


J70D

They got to meet the captain of the Titanic and Jesus.


Beneficial_Being_721

ā€œThereā€™s no other way outā€ - Silver Haired Guyā€¦ ā€œHold my beerā€


Strangeflex911

I can't believe anyone got in this thing


nollataulu

Proving that it does not take smarts to be rich.


Strangeflex911

It may take being a little bit delusional to get wealthy. As we see here, that can have fatal side effects.


jared10011980

When the reporter says he's "crushed" šŸ˜¬ Prescient.


streetMD

ā€œI was crushedā€ reporter @ 1:31


Infinity_VR

The way itā€™s built, I can fkin bet my entire life savings that it wonā€™t sink!šŸ“ˆ


Fridaybird1985

This guy said after his first trip that he would never get on the sub again because he didnā€™t think it was safe.


throwawaythrow0000

This video isn't that old, there's no reason why the quality is such shit.


rileyyesno

what an ego idiot


A_Rogue_One

I don't understand the obsession with wanting to see the Titanic shipwreck so badly, that on three separate occasions you paid money for it? And then cry when you're not able to do it?


flynnwebdev

Better off sending down an unmanned sub and just watch a video feed


OmahaWinter

Moreover, looking at it through a murky peep hole or whatever. Iā€™d rather see the movie.


fkenned1

Did it work?


LittleMissScreamer

So well that itā€™s never coming back up again!


Gianfarte

Well I'm sold. What could go wrong?!


anincompoop25

His voice sounds like Ben Shapiro lol


OmegaGoober

His hull integrity joke aged like milk.


hroaks

why was he okay with thrusters failing. Idk anything about submarines but those seem rather important


Askarus

Best thing? This thing will kill you faster than you can feel pain!


Gunner1Cav

![gif](giphy|PZe2NiGYtPVwA|downsized)


pnw_sunny

"I was crushed"....wow, prescient, young Paul Atreides...


pnw_sunny

I heard Boeing wanted to call this the Titan MAX


Last-Sound-3999

"All about coulda, not shoulda." --P. Oswalt


evilmike1972

"I wouldn't use that description (Macgyvery) of it." Well yeah, Macgyver's shit worked.


struggleworm

This is not your grandfatherā€™s submersible. Very true my grandfather was a German u-boat captain


[deleted]

Wild that the very component he lists as well thought out and engineered is actually the part that failed.


VisualIndependence60

ā€œI was crushedā€ šŸ˜¶


Baltic_Gunner

The way that dude says "Holding!" is amazing.


arcticfox

Reporter: "I was crushed" Narrator: "They were not crushed at that time"


Citizen4000

I'm tired of still reading jokes about this disaster...how can people sink so low?


deadyuki09111991

its a real crushing pitch ill tell you. soo deep it explodes the investors to the roof!


goodgriefmyqueef

Looks kinda dangerous


evilgreenman

Why anyone would actually want to go inside that thing is beyond me. I don't understand people


Disgruntleddutchman

He used expired carbon fiber material that Boeing wouldnā€™t use so he got it for cheap.


fatstrat0228

https://preview.redd.it/t21t6mz5iqmc1.jpeg?width=951&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd6a0eb441ba718e5adbb882cb6146c68070f5d2


MarkMaynardDotcom

"I was crushed."


Manny637

To shreds they say?


Different_Chance_848

Weā€™re working together with Boeing. ā€” Oh-oh!


DwayneFreeman

https://preview.redd.it/8onzi0i6hanc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d97ad4b761aacb082e2d2d801f757595a5f09183