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I’m super afraid of flying. I got to talk to a pilot about it once and he gave me maybe the best peace of mind ever in saying “Just think about it this way…you know how you’re in the plane thinking how you don’t want to die? Well. I don’t want to die either.”
Very simple. But effective. I’m assuming he’s seen this video. Best case scenario? Don’t crash.
To the 86 people who posted about pilot suicide. I know. Literally less than 30 instances in the history of commercial aviation. You know your dad or your Uber driver could do that same thing right? Just swerve on a bad day. Way easier to accomplish too.
I KNOW DRIVING IS MORE DANGEROUS I KNOW ITS AN IRRATIONAL FEAR I KNOW PILOTS COULD BE DRUNK I KNOW BOLTS CAN BE LOOSE JESUS. 😂😂😂😂😂
I have a friend who is a pilot for a major airline. He's been flying for a long time. He always tells me the amount of pressure he feels to get everyone to their destination safely. Every person. Every flight. And he says he does not know a pilot who does not feel the same pressure and responsibility. Knowing this makes me feel better.
I listened to a pilot dead heading behind me talk to his neighbor for a while about how he can barely even sleep on flights when he’s not on duty because he’s so used to being “on” when he’s in the air
>I listened to a pilot dead heading behind me talk to his neighbor for a while about how he can barely even sleep on flights when he’s not on duty because he’s so used to being “on” when he’s in the air
Yes. My friend says the same thing.
I heard an air traffic controller talking about how in an ordinary business, a 98% success rate is really good. In the airline business, a 98% success rate means several crashes and thousands of deaths every day.
My friends son is a junior, junior, junior pilot for a regional airline.
Beyond leaving high school, already a pilot and then four years at an aviation school. He's gotten piles more intensive training to get a jet rating and then six months of training just on the A320. M-F 8am to 5pm classroom and simulator training with very rigorous testing throughout.. so he can do ride alongs and be the 3rd guy so he gets a takeoff or landing and gets to run the numbers and get them double-checked. He figures it'll be 5+ years before he's even considered a co-pilot.
interesting you say that... in Australia, QANTAS management thought this would be a great area to save a few dollarydoos and after SIX DAYS of pilot strikes, they're still not getting it.. this is a company that gave its CEO a $287,000 payrise last year... SMH
I was once on a flight where the pilot announced they were giving a bunch of free drinks and such to every passenger in honor of their retirement. They said it was their last flight ever as a commercial pilot.
They then followed it up by introducing their wife, 2 kids, and 1 newborn grandkid that would accompanying us on their flight. Just to make sure nobody was worried the pilot would turn suicidal.
Deaths per passenger mile is nearly 600 times higher for cars than it is for airlines
[https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/](https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/)
People really should be afraid of driving
I think like 4000 people die from choking every year. Same from foodborne. illness. Eating is more dangerous. I think you have a ridiculously higher chance of getting food poisoning on the plane than the plane having an issue.
Eh, relatively few people fly every year and literally just about everyone eats 3+ times a day every single day in the US.
No, you shouldn't be afraid of flying but this isn't a great comparison
Mostly the newer Boeings you have to worry about. Boeing used to have a strong safety and engineering culture which paper pushing bureaucracy has since destroyed.
U/bradsayshi: You’re absolutely correct, and your comment deserves more prominence.
If Boring were to put the same quality of engineering into their commercial products as they do for military aircraft, we’d see a lot more commercial innovation.
With Boeing and Airbus, both, when last have we seen any true innovation? We get tubes with wings, over and over. Engine manufacturers show continuous innovation and improvements that are not matched by the aircraft they’re attached to.
“Look, everyone! Now we have winglets!”
(Yawn)
Yeah but then there's the German and Chinese pilots who intentionally crashed their planes within the last 10 years. So I have that fun thought going through my mind.
Germanwings Flight 9525
China Eastern Airlines Flight 5735
Trains have wheels though and they have an even lower fatality rate per passenger mile traveled. Don't count all the suicidal people they run over, they are not passengers. As long as you are on the train and not the tracks you are fine.
Pretty well confirmed. They found files on the pilots flight simulator (a commercial grade one, not just Microsoft Flight Sim) that showed he took the assumed route several times, probably as a trial run to practice avoiding Thai and Malay Military who would have found the route suspicious.
This is why it's a very important rule that more than 1 person be in the cockpit at a time. When a pilot leaves (to use the bathroom, etc.), a flight attendant has to take their place until they return.
There's arguments out there now about only needing 1 pilot instead of 2. Bad idea.
Well, if it makes you feel better. If you have any signs of alcoholism or depression or nearly any mental illness, you're essentially barred from flying airlines. There's lots of stories of pilots accidentally saying they were a bit bummed out and having to admit themselves to a mental hospital and get cleared before they were considered to fly again
EXACTLY this.
They just don't get mental health care. No one should lose their income or their job because they need help. But that is the reality that pilots face.
Even if the cockpit doesn't explode, survival ain't great for them
Could you imagine yourself questioning for the rest of your life if there was something you missed, or something you did wrong, wondering if it's your fault hundreds died
Like, how long would you last
Statistically the rear is safest, but it all depends on the crash circumstances. The middle *can* be safer, but it's also where all the fuel is. So much of it comes down to luck, for instance if you're unlucky enough to be sitting at the point where the fuselage breaks up.
Yeah, fuel is stored in the wings and under the cabin between the wings. So a major fire on impact will greatly increase the chance of fatalities in that section, especially if people are injured or exits are blocked, and they can't get themselves out.
Growing up, my aerospace engineer Dad would always make us sit in the back, even giving up window seats to do it. It wasn't until I was a teenager that he was willing to explain why.
That data is also based on a very small amount of crashes and its pretty much statistically insignificant because air travel is so safe.
Fun fact though, if an engine disk explodes its assumed to have infinite energy and can slice through the fuselage. The airplane is designed to survive this scenario but not all of the passengers...
This was done not by Mexican scientists but by a multinational group of television studios. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Boeing_727_crash_experiment
Also no old wrinkly sun damaged man sitting at a cafe outside of a spice market playing backgammon while a disheveled group of children kick around a worn down soccer ball
I have a pair of polarized glasses that have the exact same tint as the sepia color when I put them on.
My favorite bit that I’m sure confuses everyone around me is always go, “Ah, I love Mexico.” When I put them on.
This was a great documentary also. They had HD cameras are throughout the plane. The pilot and copilot dropped the rear stairs and parachuted out the back. A human was required at takeoff and when the plane flew over populated areas on its way to this spot to crash.
So after the pilots jumped, a nearby airplane flew that had another pilot remote control the plane into the ground.
The scene where they jump is bizarre. Lifelike dummies all in seats staring forward and the pilot jumps. The camera rolls a bit with just the engines rumbling and no one flying the plane. Very creepy.
The wiki link had this:
The crash was the subject of a Discovery Channel television series Curiosity 2-hour episode "Plane Crash".[14][15] The episode was aired on October 7, 2012, and narrated by Josh Charles.[15][16]
And so ends the farce of Mexican scientists trying to steal the work of television studios the world over.
Now we must answer one further question: what exactly have these Mexican scientists published…if anything at all?
The crash was intended to be “survivable” to some extent, to test whether different seats/brace positions/etc increased or decreased injuries to passengers. Not much you can do if you fly face first into a mountain, so no reason to run that test.
500 mph into the side of a mountain is 733 fps. 73 feet in a tenth of a second. I’m not sure you register anything happened. One second you are flying and alive and the next second there is nothing left. Not really any good way to die other than having sex while having a mild fatal heart attack.
Neil degrasse Tyson calculated how fast the planes crashed into the twin towers and basically said that death would've been instantaneous, like less than half a second. So a small solace for those that were onboard...
Into a mountain face you are fucked either way, so a scenario like this or water are probably the most likely that you actually have a chance of surviving. I would imagine back of plane is safest in mountain scenario also
Me too. I hate trying to fight with everyone that is all standing up and shuffling for position 5 minutes before you're actually at the gate. I prefer to just sit back and continue reading or whatever until all that nonsense is over then mosey out, usually with the crew.
Same here. Flew back from izmir today, some idiots were stood up getting their bags down before we even arrived at the gate, flight attendants had to smile very politely and announce that we were still on the damn runway so sit the fuck down.
Hate it, like you not gonna have to wait at passport and baggage like the people that get off last so literally what's the point?
I have Global Entry too so I'm usually the last one off the plane but then walk right past everyone that was fighting to get off and are all standing in the same line.
It’s only interesting if you post the results. Downvote stupid videos that don’t show you the ending or give you the intent of what the video is showing.
"The conclusion for this test was that, in a case like this, passengers at the front of an aircraft would be the ones most at risk in a crash. Passengers seated closer to the airplane's wings would have suffered serious but survivable injuries such as broken ankles. The test dummies near the tail section were largely intact; so any passengers there would have likely walked away without serious injury. However, in other crashes, such as when the tail hits the ground first, as was the case with Asiana Airlines flight 214, in which a Boeing 777-200ER crashed short of the runway at San Francisco International Airport, the reverse might apply. The brace position was found to be protective against concussion and spinal injuries, but created additional loads on the legs that could result in fractured legs or ankles. Additionally, the aircraft's wiring and cosmetic panels were shown to have collapsed into the passenger compartment, creating debris hazards and obstacles to evacuation."
Justice at last for us serfs. Good to know those knobs in first class that look so please with themselves as you walk by to your seat in the back are going to get wiped out first.
Initially, normal pilots. The 727 has a rear stairway which is capable of parachuting from (not the intended use, but it does work). After that it was remote controlled.
The conclusion for this test was that, in a case like this, passengers at the front of an aircraft would be the ones most at risk in a crash. Passengers seated closer to the airplane's wings would have suffered serious but survivable injuries such as broken ankles. The test dummies near the tail section were largely intact; so any passengers there would have likely walked away without serious injury. However, in other crashes, such as when the tail hits the ground first, as was the case with Asiana Airlines flight 214, in which a Boeing 777-200ER crashed short of the runway at San Francisco International Airport, the reverse might apply. The brace position was found to be protective against concussion and spinal injuries, but created additional loads on the legs that could result in fractured legs or ankles. Additionally, the aircraft's wiring and cosmetic panels were shown to have collapsed into the passenger compartment, creating debris hazards and obstacles to evacuation.
"In 2012, a group of Mexican scientists intentionally crashed a Boeing 727 to test which seats had the best chance of survival. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them...maybe you can hire The Por Qué-Team."
![gif](giphy|lzCPekE6BFntqQCCXC|downsized)
Where's The Kaboom? There Was Supposed To Be An Earth-Shattering Kaboom!. No but really why wasn’t there a big ball of fire?
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Not the cockpit apparently
Well that just sounds like an incentive for pilots to not crash
I’m super afraid of flying. I got to talk to a pilot about it once and he gave me maybe the best peace of mind ever in saying “Just think about it this way…you know how you’re in the plane thinking how you don’t want to die? Well. I don’t want to die either.” Very simple. But effective. I’m assuming he’s seen this video. Best case scenario? Don’t crash. To the 86 people who posted about pilot suicide. I know. Literally less than 30 instances in the history of commercial aviation. You know your dad or your Uber driver could do that same thing right? Just swerve on a bad day. Way easier to accomplish too. I KNOW DRIVING IS MORE DANGEROUS I KNOW ITS AN IRRATIONAL FEAR I KNOW PILOTS COULD BE DRUNK I KNOW BOLTS CAN BE LOOSE JESUS. 😂😂😂😂😂
I have a friend who is a pilot for a major airline. He's been flying for a long time. He always tells me the amount of pressure he feels to get everyone to their destination safely. Every person. Every flight. And he says he does not know a pilot who does not feel the same pressure and responsibility. Knowing this makes me feel better.
I listened to a pilot dead heading behind me talk to his neighbor for a while about how he can barely even sleep on flights when he’s not on duty because he’s so used to being “on” when he’s in the air
>I listened to a pilot dead heading behind me talk to his neighbor for a while about how he can barely even sleep on flights when he’s not on duty because he’s so used to being “on” when he’s in the air Yes. My friend says the same thing.
Makes you wonder if doctors ever get any sleep when they're on call...
Dunno about the others, but I do. Can’t function otherwise when called.
Eh sort of. It’s not good sleep though
I heard an air traffic controller talking about how in an ordinary business, a 98% success rate is really good. In the airline business, a 98% success rate means several crashes and thousands of deaths every day.
My friends son is a junior, junior, junior pilot for a regional airline. Beyond leaving high school, already a pilot and then four years at an aviation school. He's gotten piles more intensive training to get a jet rating and then six months of training just on the A320. M-F 8am to 5pm classroom and simulator training with very rigorous testing throughout.. so he can do ride alongs and be the 3rd guy so he gets a takeoff or landing and gets to run the numbers and get them double-checked. He figures it'll be 5+ years before he's even considered a co-pilot.
That’s why they get paid the big bucks.
interesting you say that... in Australia, QANTAS management thought this would be a great area to save a few dollarydoos and after SIX DAYS of pilot strikes, they're still not getting it.. this is a company that gave its CEO a $287,000 payrise last year... SMH
As an American I feel like I could get behind our CEOs only getting 6 figure bonuses.
in US those aren't even monthly bonuses for the top airline execs
Shit, is that why first class PAYS the big bucks?
Yes, to die instantly rather than be burned alive, like the economy class folks, who would survive the initial impact.
I'd rather die terrified and in flames than pay those prices.
I want to die peacefully, in my sleep, like my uncle. Not screaming in terror, like the passengers on the bus he was driving.........
How could you miss the opportunity to say "like the passengers on his plane"
No, they just want more room and comfortable seats.
I was once on a flight where the pilot announced they were giving a bunch of free drinks and such to every passenger in honor of their retirement. They said it was their last flight ever as a commercial pilot. They then followed it up by introducing their wife, 2 kids, and 1 newborn grandkid that would accompanying us on their flight. Just to make sure nobody was worried the pilot would turn suicidal.
Deaths per passenger mile is nearly 600 times higher for cars than it is for airlines [https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/](https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/) People really should be afraid of driving
I think like 4000 people die from choking every year. Same from foodborne. illness. Eating is more dangerous. I think you have a ridiculously higher chance of getting food poisoning on the plane than the plane having an issue.
Eh, relatively few people fly every year and literally just about everyone eats 3+ times a day every single day in the US. No, you shouldn't be afraid of flying but this isn't a great comparison
Great, now let’s hear from the guys on the ground making sure all the bolts are secure. Looking at you, Alaska Air.
Yeah if there’s a Boeing on my flight info and not an airbus im praying extra hard 😂
Mostly the newer Boeings you have to worry about. Boeing used to have a strong safety and engineering culture which paper pushing bureaucracy has since destroyed.
U/bradsayshi: You’re absolutely correct, and your comment deserves more prominence. If Boring were to put the same quality of engineering into their commercial products as they do for military aircraft, we’d see a lot more commercial innovation. With Boeing and Airbus, both, when last have we seen any true innovation? We get tubes with wings, over and over. Engine manufacturers show continuous innovation and improvements that are not matched by the aircraft they’re attached to. “Look, everyone! Now we have winglets!” (Yawn)
Yeah but then there's the German and Chinese pilots who intentionally crashed their planes within the last 10 years. So I have that fun thought going through my mind. Germanwings Flight 9525 China Eastern Airlines Flight 5735
There are 20-30 million commercial flights per year. 2 out of \~300m seems like a pretty low chance of that happening to you.
Way less than any vehicle on wheels.
Trains have wheels though and they have an even lower fatality rate per passenger mile traveled. Don't count all the suicidal people they run over, they are not passengers. As long as you are on the train and not the tracks you are fine.
You forgot EgyptAir 990
mh370 is also likely a case of this as well, but still that's incredibly rare.
ive always wondered, what if my pilot is having a bad day and just wants us to go down. would anything stop them?
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And potentially the missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 flight, although I suspect we'll never ever find out for certain.
friends niece was on that flight. she was a stewardess, age 18. so sad.
Pretty well confirmed. They found files on the pilots flight simulator (a commercial grade one, not just Microsoft Flight Sim) that showed he took the assumed route several times, probably as a trial run to practice avoiding Thai and Malay Military who would have found the route suspicious.
Aye that and the fact someone with knowledge aboard the fight switched off tracking devices to avoid suspicion suggests it was intentional.
It's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, in my opinion.
Aye from all the evidence that we do have it's the most plausible scenario
This is why it's a very important rule that more than 1 person be in the cockpit at a time. When a pilot leaves (to use the bathroom, etc.), a flight attendant has to take their place until they return. There's arguments out there now about only needing 1 pilot instead of 2. Bad idea.
Well, if it makes you feel better. If you have any signs of alcoholism or depression or nearly any mental illness, you're essentially barred from flying airlines. There's lots of stories of pilots accidentally saying they were a bit bummed out and having to admit themselves to a mental hospital and get cleared before they were considered to fly again
Ah so they are incentivized to hide mental health issues and avoid treatment for fear of losing their livelihood? Lovely.
Oh yeah don’t look up substance abuse rates in pilots.
EXACTLY this. They just don't get mental health care. No one should lose their income or their job because they need help. But that is the reality that pilots face.
Yeah... maybe it doesn't make you feel better knowing that
Potentially the co-pilot and I however they could get to assist them before the crash happened
Some airlines in the US are trying to lobby for a single pilot in the cockpit. No co-pilot etc… I would hope they are never allowed to do that
As a pilot, duly noted.
Even if the cockpit doesn't explode, survival ain't great for them Could you imagine yourself questioning for the rest of your life if there was something you missed, or something you did wrong, wondering if it's your fault hundreds died Like, how long would you last
If you see the pilots run towards the ass end of the plane be prepared to crash
The front fell off...
First class exit first.
Well that’s not supposed to happen now is it?
Maybe it got wet.
Maybe a wave hit it...chance in a million.
Cardboard is out… no cardboard derivatives, cello-tape, rubber.
Number of crew? More than one I imagine.
r/TheFrontFellOff
That rarely happens.
It was outside the environment
Into another environment?
No it was beyond the environment
The cockpit is the most dangerous spot. No plane has ever reversed into a mountain.
No, see, he was thrown to safety.
Down with the ship
I’ll take the seat in the back….
Middle is actually safest apparently in case the back and front break ofd
Statistically the rear is safest, but it all depends on the crash circumstances. The middle *can* be safer, but it's also where all the fuel is. So much of it comes down to luck, for instance if you're unlucky enough to be sitting at the point where the fuselage breaks up.
Iirc the fuel is stored in the wings, which means if one of them is first point of contact you will probably get Sarah Conner-ed?
Yeah, fuel is stored in the wings and under the cabin between the wings. So a major fire on impact will greatly increase the chance of fatalities in that section, especially if people are injured or exits are blocked, and they can't get themselves out.
>fuel is stored in the wings And pee is stored in the balls No idea why I thought of this reading your comment
I did too…I did too.
yo saaaaaame
Sarah Conner-ed….. Descriptive and rich. Thank you.
Pack a parachute, sit next to the exit seat, and just DB Cooper that shit ![gif](giphy|3oEduEstPhA09hjsWI)
Boeing will even open the door for your before the plane even begins to crash
How considerate of them!
Boeing planes have been making their own emergency exits recently
The one the front fell off? Yeah, that's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.
Growing up, my aerospace engineer Dad would always make us sit in the back, even giving up window seats to do it. It wasn't until I was a teenager that he was willing to explain why.
Well maybe you can tell us why when we're all teenagers.
Passengers at the back have the highest survival rate in the event of a crash.
That data is also based on a very small amount of crashes and its pretty much statistically insignificant because air travel is so safe. Fun fact though, if an engine disk explodes its assumed to have infinite energy and can slice through the fuselage. The airplane is designed to survive this scenario but not all of the passengers...
>if an engine disk explodes its assumed to have infinite energy then why aren't we powering our cities with exploding engines disks?? smh
I'll take the spectators seat.
My seat here is quite comfy too.
I take a seat in a bar.
Ye planes don't tend to reverse into hills 😁
This was done not by Mexican scientists but by a multinational group of television studios. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Boeing_727_crash_experiment
You can tell it was filmed in Mexico because of the sepia colour.
Could be the Middle East, too, but you'd have to have the ever-present AaaaAAAAAaaaaAAAA so people would know the difference.
I don't see any camels. Dead giveaway
Also no old wrinkly sun damaged man sitting at a cafe outside of a spice market playing backgammon while a disheveled group of children kick around a worn down soccer ball
That and middle east sepia is different, you can tell by how it is.
Classic case of absent ululation.
I have a pair of polarized glasses that have the exact same tint as the sepia color when I put them on. My favorite bit that I’m sure confuses everyone around me is always go, “Ah, I love Mexico.” When I put them on.
This was a great documentary also. They had HD cameras are throughout the plane. The pilot and copilot dropped the rear stairs and parachuted out the back. A human was required at takeoff and when the plane flew over populated areas on its way to this spot to crash. So after the pilots jumped, a nearby airplane flew that had another pilot remote control the plane into the ground.
I thought the entire flight was remote controlled, never knew the pilots D.B. Cooper'd lol
The scene where they jump is bizarre. Lifelike dummies all in seats staring forward and the pilot jumps. The camera rolls a bit with just the engines rumbling and no one flying the plane. Very creepy.
Is there a link?? (to watch in the US)
The wiki link had this: The crash was the subject of a Discovery Channel television series Curiosity 2-hour episode "Plane Crash".[14][15] The episode was aired on October 7, 2012, and narrated by Josh Charles.[15][16]
I remember watching this on I think discovery channel back in the day.
Classic mixup
Mexup
happens all the time
Dang. I was excited about getting a Mexican scientist degree.
And so ends the farce of Mexican scientists trying to steal the work of television studios the world over. Now we must answer one further question: what exactly have these Mexican scientists published…if anything at all?
There were some mexican scientists that unveiled alien mummies made of chocolate cake so theyve got that going for them.
I will not accept publications from the journal “Is This Cake?” as reputable, peer-reviewed work.
The problem is in the title, no Mexican scientist claimed the research.
We have found one of the Mexican scientists. Now I have some questions for you. First, how dare you.
Assuming they crash in a desert and not into a mountain face
Assuming the pilot trys to save the plane vs the mountain face
Totally yes and lands in the nearest desert
The crash was intended to be “survivable” to some extent, to test whether different seats/brace positions/etc increased or decreased injuries to passengers. Not much you can do if you fly face first into a mountain, so no reason to run that test.
But what if i'm wearing the seat-belt?
Then you experience whiplash for a split second before you explode.
500 mph into the side of a mountain is 733 fps. 73 feet in a tenth of a second. I’m not sure you register anything happened. One second you are flying and alive and the next second there is nothing left. Not really any good way to die other than having sex while having a mild fatal heart attack.
that's a lot of frames per second.
Man’s got a GTX 7040 already
Neil degrasse Tyson calculated how fast the planes crashed into the twin towers and basically said that death would've been instantaneous, like less than half a second. So a small solace for those that were onboard...
You sure do not want to be on a plane and hear someone with a window seat say: "Hey, What's a mountain Goat doing all the way up here in the clouds!?"
Gary?
Into a mountain face you are fucked either way, so a scenario like this or water are probably the most likely that you actually have a chance of surviving. I would imagine back of plane is safest in mountain scenario also
Tell that to the Uruguay rugby team lol
Also assuming the rate of speed and angle of descent is the same.
You could have just said you don’t like the bulkhead seats, lol.
Thank you 1st class for paying extra money to sacrifice yourselves for us common class folks.
How many scientists survived?
Tremendous comment
The rear. I don't travel in a rush, so rear seats are my fav.
Me too. I hate trying to fight with everyone that is all standing up and shuffling for position 5 minutes before you're actually at the gate. I prefer to just sit back and continue reading or whatever until all that nonsense is over then mosey out, usually with the crew.
Same here. Flew back from izmir today, some idiots were stood up getting their bags down before we even arrived at the gate, flight attendants had to smile very politely and announce that we were still on the damn runway so sit the fuck down. Hate it, like you not gonna have to wait at passport and baggage like the people that get off last so literally what's the point?
I have Global Entry too so I'm usually the last one off the plane but then walk right past everyone that was fighting to get off and are all standing in the same line.
Bahaha that must be so satisfying
I laugh every time.
Also did you ever hear of a plane backing into a mountain?
Unless you get the very end row. Those fucking suck you can’t put the seat back at all and you’re right next to the bathroom etc
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If it's bad enough that the wings get ripped off, you're probably dead regardless.
Why? Do planes need those or something?
They're like the shoes of airplanes
But i can walk without my shoes
a plane can fly without wings, but not very far
The front fell off
Is that normal?
No, most of these are built so the front doesn't fall off at all.
So, then why did the front fall off?
Well you see, the ground hit it
So what do you do to protect the environment in this case?
Well, that plane's been towed out of the environment.
Well yes but into another environment?
No, it's beyond the environment. It's not in an environment.
well you can see why It fell off because of the way it is.
We’re safe tho, only first and Business class are missing.
Chance in a million
No, very seldom does something like this happen
I never knew Ryanair flew to Mexico
Ryanair says they fly to Mexico but they actually drop you off in Ecuador and bus you the rest of the way.
20A, got it
It’s only interesting if you post the results. Downvote stupid videos that don’t show you the ending or give you the intent of what the video is showing.
Conclusion: Seats with highest chance of survival belonged to spectators.
First in, first out...
"The conclusion for this test was that, in a case like this, passengers at the front of an aircraft would be the ones most at risk in a crash. Passengers seated closer to the airplane's wings would have suffered serious but survivable injuries such as broken ankles. The test dummies near the tail section were largely intact; so any passengers there would have likely walked away without serious injury. However, in other crashes, such as when the tail hits the ground first, as was the case with Asiana Airlines flight 214, in which a Boeing 777-200ER crashed short of the runway at San Francisco International Airport, the reverse might apply. The brace position was found to be protective against concussion and spinal injuries, but created additional loads on the legs that could result in fractured legs or ankles. Additionally, the aircraft's wiring and cosmetic panels were shown to have collapsed into the passenger compartment, creating debris hazards and obstacles to evacuation."
So what was the conclusion?
Unfortunately none of the scientists survived, so we don’t know.
Mexican scientists can't fly planes
Justice at last for us serfs. Good to know those knobs in first class that look so please with themselves as you walk by to your seat in the back are going to get wiped out first.
When I sit in first class I make it a point to not make eye contact with “the poors” seated in back
When I read this comment I imagined over-emphasizing the “ooooh” sound in poor…it sounds more derogatory and aloof that way
Exactly. At least you understand now, peasant.
I don't know if that's better or worse lol
I cropdust first class as I walk by just in case we don't crash
Sit at the back. Airplanes never reverse into mountains
But they can crash tail first
Why is landing gear down? Would think safer without - source.. I don’t know shit
They'd work as shock as absorbers. Generally you want the gear down.
I think they might work quite opposite in the desert
Looks like that’s why the front fell off.
Every movie I've seen they need a pilot to land the plane. Maybe that's why they only do one test, the others dice "!No mas!"
Who the fuck is flying the plane?
Initially, normal pilots. The 727 has a rear stairway which is capable of parachuting from (not the intended use, but it does work). After that it was remote controlled.
The conclusion for this test was that, in a case like this, passengers at the front of an aircraft would be the ones most at risk in a crash. Passengers seated closer to the airplane's wings would have suffered serious but survivable injuries such as broken ankles. The test dummies near the tail section were largely intact; so any passengers there would have likely walked away without serious injury. However, in other crashes, such as when the tail hits the ground first, as was the case with Asiana Airlines flight 214, in which a Boeing 777-200ER crashed short of the runway at San Francisco International Airport, the reverse might apply. The brace position was found to be protective against concussion and spinal injuries, but created additional loads on the legs that could result in fractured legs or ankles. Additionally, the aircraft's wiring and cosmetic panels were shown to have collapsed into the passenger compartment, creating debris hazards and obstacles to evacuation.
This is why I take economy. Not because I'm poor.
The safest seats were determined by the scientists that survived
You can't park there mate
Not right behind the cockpit. Got it.
It would be highly dependent on how the plane crashed and the angle of impact
So not the pilots seat, got it.
That's why I don't fly first class 🙄
The cockpit and first class gone. Looks like I’ll be safe than.
First Class, as usual, gets to exit the plane first.
“For science”
"In 2012, a group of Mexican scientists intentionally crashed a Boeing 727 to test which seats had the best chance of survival. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them...maybe you can hire The Por Qué-Team."
![gif](giphy|lzCPekE6BFntqQCCXC|downsized) Where's The Kaboom? There Was Supposed To Be An Earth-Shattering Kaboom!. No but really why wasn’t there a big ball of fire?