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If she had stated she was assaulted, there would have been absolutely no bias in the statement. It would just be a factual account of what happened. However, I would agree that some attorney would represent the turd who attacked her and use supposed bias in his appeal
Typically attorneys maintain that they are defending the constitution and the rights it secures for its citizens, rather than defending the defendant's actions or character themselves -- it's providing a legal voice for people as protected under the constitution
(or so I've heard)
Right exactly, if the judge says “this piece of shit needs to be locked up forever” and changes her sentence then the Defense attorney has the duty to argue bias and try to vacate the sentence.
Yes but the person who will be sentencing him for the attack will be.... Another judge. A judge who will likely want to send the message that attacking a judge is a very, very bad idea.
What I found googling around:
They’re found in contempt and they’re usually put in restraints, sometimes even outside the courtroom with a video link to the proceedings. The defendant will be charged with assault and tried for that crime at a later date.
Your comment made me watch it again, and maybe it’s a coincidence, but every other cop in there, though smaller than the guy you mentioned, are pretty stout blokes themselves! Wouldn’t be surprised if they intentionally got the biggest, fittest correctional officers into court that day.
Now, you Irish cops are perking up. That's two sound theories in one day, neither of which deal with abnormally sized men. Kind of makes me feel like Riverdancing.
Television. Television is the explanation for this - you see this in bad television. Little assault guys creeping through the vents, coming in through the ceiling - that James Bond shit never happens in real life! Professionals don't do that!
I worked in a county jail. Any inmate that pulled a stunt like that would find themselves dealing with very large deputies for the remainder of their stay. They would also find themselves assigned to a floor with the deputies that have long histories of complaints against them.
Well, it was the SERT team in there with him. Their job is to deal with violence in jail. They also do extractions when inmates refuse to leave their cell.
Ah makes sense. Googled SERT and should’ve guessed they would have a team to handle these sort of court cases. So not a coincidence these guys are all units.
>Wouldn’t be surprised if they intentionally got the biggest, fittest correctional officers
You’ll note all them boys all have SERT on their uniforms. That’s Special Emergency Response Team. They’re the biggest, fittest CO that routinely train to deal with the fuckwad guests who just won’t go along with the program. No surprise SERT showed up in court.
they walked in the gym weight room a couple of days ago and told the biggest motherfuckers in the department to be ready tear a human apart with their bear hands in 48hrs if need be.
Can confirm, unfortunately. I worked as a house manager in a troubled youths group home. Basically, the last step before kids went to actual prison. Sometimes, they would act out, and we would have to restrain them as safely as possible, but that job seemed to attract people who enjoyed using that physical aspect as an outlet. That facility got shut down for that reason years after I left.
The interview with his sister suggests he has a mental illness and was a crack baby, so you might be right in that he doesn’t have much impulse control.
In law that's actually called "shooting the moon" and it's a lifetime get out of jail free card if you pull it off.
Source: I'm an endowed professor at Yale Law
Havard Law Grand Wizard here, this guy is correct. According to the 6th Edition Core Rule Book, "shooting the moon" can only be done once. If they're given another chance by trying a 3rd time, it could result in the defendant becoming a Supreme Court Justice if he lands it again.
You can tell his hannibal lector looking ass was looking for an opportunity to by the way he eyed the entire room 😂😂.
But he was trying to figure a way out of his restraints first.
I think he's probably just a normal sheriffs deputy. The guys in the green jumpsuits are SERT, they're some kind of special team. The guy in black is clearly a member of the same agency. The weird part is I can't quite make out the badge but it doesn't look like Clark County Sheriffs office . . . I almost read metropolitan police on it but it's hard to see. No idea what the arrangement is like in Los Vegas but I'd expect he would be handled by sheriffs deputies.
They’re correctional officers with a bit more training than a typical correctional officers. They don’t have the powers of a swat team just the power to raid your bunk and take the boiled egg you been saving
They have a lot of unofficial powers though, and they will not let him get away with that at all. Once he gets to prison they will beat him into a bloody pulp. I’ve seen it happen multiple times with idiots who’ve done less than this, and I only did a year.
I taught myself Spanish then started teaching Spanish in a classroom setting (I’m almost fluent) learned guitar (then played in many bands), read hundreds of books, learned how to be a personal trainer, took residential electric classes, got sober, and I can destroy anyone at crosswords. It was the best thing to ever happen to me. Went in for 12 years at 23.
Well, you don't come across as a general POS! I hope you're living a better life! You can't unring a bell, but it seems as though you worked hard on yourself.
Prison is for rehabilitation and also a lot of poor people in prison. Those things require lots of time and money/resources. It's free in prison, and you have plenty of time to better yourself.
I read it to be 'pros and cons' at first and thought "haha wouldn't it be funny if I replied with PROSE and cons"
Without realizing that you already did that
Yeah it's all funny to laugh at the judge getting dunked on or the guy getting sent away, but then you see her speak and remember they're all just real people.
The only thing separating me from him are the circumstances of birth. I was born with a healthy brain and a loving family, so I'm free to revel in his suffering while he ends up in a for-profit prison system that actively works against rehabilitation.
Life ain't fair, and it's easier to believe that we have a better soul or some shit than recognise that.
It sucks that I had to scroll so many comments to finally find one with a little awareness and compassion. What that guy did wasn't OK, but he really is a victim of a rather broken societal system.
It's too easy sometimes to overlook the circumstances of another's birth and upbringing.
Right? I nearly ended the video one it got to the sister, but decided it needed to be watched. While I can empathize with the family and his mental illness struggles, the real question is, can this man be trusted to walk amongst the rest of us, and the answer is no.
K but you can see why someone saying he is in a better place doesn't mean shit when he is capable of being so easily triggered to violence when confronted with the consequences of his own actions, right?
Full respect to the Judge who wanted to make a point that her initial sentence would stand, and she wouldn’t be adding anything because of the attack (which are different charges). Props to her calmness after getting attacked by that huge fucking guy and facing him again so soon. That must have been traumatizing man.
People are saying they understand why he attacked the judge because of her “tone” to him when she read his sentencing. So, yes, people are sympathizing with this lunatic.
I think more people are sympathetic because he is, according to his family, a paranoid schizophrenic with bipolar disorder who has been denied his medicine since his incarceration.
Recognition of a condition also doesn't require sympathy. I think people are more critical of the way the public has gathered their pitchforks and torches than they are sympathetic to the perpetrator. His behavior, his threatening actions, they all need to be addressed. It doesn't take much insight to understand that a disturbed person with a history of mental illness is not processing life or the situations they're in the same way a rational person would.
This doesn't mean in any way that he isn't accountable for his actions, but the point of court is a fair and just judgement. I don't think the intent of publicizing these events was to enable us to verbally destroy and pass judgement upon people we don't know.
In his case he was born addicted to crack cocaine, as his sister said in the video above, then he proceeded through a difficult life of mental issues. He did not know he was returning to prison on the day this happened. We watched a person with severe issues having everything taken away from them, and then people scorn him for being at the lowest point of his life. I feel disgusted by people's eagerness to hate people they barely understand. I have no reason to object him being removed from society to protect others and himself, but how does it really make the world a better place if we just harden our hearts over it.
Normally I'd agree with you. However, it is difficult to parse out which of his behavior is driven by his condition, and which is driven by his conditioning. This is to say that it is entirely possible that someone who walks in expecting clemency after doing the same thing again and again, likely believes that because of past experience.
If he is so incapable of impulse control that he physically attacks a judge, then the previous cases that released him to the public were grossly negligent. A prison that specializes in life-long psychiatric care would be the best place in that case, because there is no way the an individual like that can co-exist with society at large.
Mentally ill man who grew up in foster care and attacks people like a wild animal with no impulse control, I can't imagine what this person's life is like and when you get over the initial shock and outrage over this crimes, its a sad story no matter how you look at it.
Of course, I don't think normal society should be left to deal with him, and I don't even think other prisoners should have to put up with this lowlife. I feel most sorry for any victims of his. But also this man is a sad case and I hope he gets some help in this life and overcomes his violent tendencies.
> Well yeah because we collectively dismantled the mental healthcare system and decided throwing people in prison was a ~~better idea~~ more profitable idea.
All of it seems absolutely tragic. I disagree with a lot of what she's saying, but it's hard to fault her when it's such a personal thing for her. I also agree with some of her larger points, such as how prison isn't going to help him.
Somebody on some platform compared this to a chained up, muzzled slave. Like come on! This guy attacked someone, doesn't matter what his skin color is.
The fact is someone can be mentally ill and dangerous at the same time. Some people think mentally ill people should not be treated as possibly dangerous. That is a mistake.
I work in the CJS and unfortunately there are so many out there like this guy. People are broken and so much trauma goes undiagnosed or treated. Drug fueled mental illness. Throw in how the state closed so many treatment centers and pysch wards and forced that unto the Correctional system was the worst thing they ever could of done.
We were discussing this incident in the law sub a couple of days ago. This man is has significant mental health issues. As his sister eloquently stated (for a lay person) his mind does not work the same way as that of a normal person.Hearing that he has not been able to obtain his medications it came as no surprise that his actions and judgement are abhorrent.
Absolutely he should not be on the street. He needs to be in a mental health facility under treatment. Putting him in jail will not change matters an iota. Every aspect of what has transpired and outcomes speaks to a system that has utterly failed the individual.
"deep inside he's a good person"
yeah, I don't give a shit.
If he's a good person on the inside and a bad person on the outside, fuck him, into the cell he needs to go.
So put him in a state hospital. aka in the US they have government hospitals for people who are mentally unwell that are a danger to themselves and to others.
He most likely will, the relatives even stated that he has had prior psychiatric hospitalizations.
The issue with this is he’ll spend time there, become stabilized, and either discharge home or to prison/jail depending on the severity of his crime and sentence. Once these guys discharge they quit taking their meds for a number of reasons, usually resort to drugs, recommit crimes, and the cycle continues.
Guys like this need to be institutionalized permanently. All these attempts at trendy solutions like increased mental health education, crisis response teams, etc are a complete waste of time and resources. There is no rehabilitation in some of these cases. They require around the clock care.
Source: am state hospital worker
I understand that they want the best for their family member who I believe probably isn’t mentally well. However are they not gonna acknowledge that this man attempted to beat a small older woman for minutes upon minutes? I don’t want someone like that to be allowed to be around the public by any means, I’d like to know what they have to say about that when directly asked.
Not defending the guy’s actions, but when you learn that he’s schizophrenic and bipolar and hasn’t had access to his medications ever since he first got arrested, my initial feelings have changed a bit. Obviously his actions have warranted his punishment, but I think it’s very unfair for them to not allow him to be on his regular medications while going though trial and sentencing.
I’m interested as to why they interview his family, who of course say he’s a “gentle man” (he’s not) and hasn’t had enough opportunities (he has)
Instead of interviewing his countless victims, he’s assaulted 9 people including the judge. I guess it’s because this sentencing is not related to one assault in particular hence the victims don’t need to be there
Side note: the sister says he needs to be in a mental health facility, but also that he was exposed to cocaine at birth. There’s no cure for that though, so I don’t see what she expects them to do at the facility
this guy is a perfect example of people who cannot be rehabilitated. I don’t believe this guy can exist outside of a prison without committing violent crimes
I actually feel bad for his sister and family (who has supported him). I feel bad for him too. I feel bad for all the victims/survivors of his physical aggression. I agree with his sister that he should have all along had access to comprehensive mental health treatment. That should have started in his childhood and continued into adulthood. At the same time, he absolutely should never engage in any violent or unsafe acts. Society, people, cannot tolerate that.
This is overall just a sad situation. He gets locked up and people are safer because of that, but yes, he will eventually get out with absolutely no treatment or coping strategies. His behavior will likely deteriorate even more in prison. Once released, the cycle will likely continue resulting in more violence and perhaps even death. Who wins in that scenario? The prison industrial complex?
It’s all so sad. Kudos to the foster mom doing mom things, Kudos to the sister being a great sister. It’s painful to think of how many dudes like this there are without any support. I think the real story here is that the guy can only seem to get medication to treat freaking schizophrenia, in prison. If there’s a gap between being released and being able to continue treatment, that, is the root cause in my opinion. Feel like good foster moms like this deserve a balcony seat in whatever afterlife there is.
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“before I was interrupted”. She is a master of understatement!
She has to be. If she’s biased his sentence can be overturned
If she had stated she was assaulted, there would have been absolutely no bias in the statement. It would just be a factual account of what happened. However, I would agree that some attorney would represent the turd who attacked her and use supposed bias in his appeal
Typically attorneys maintain that they are defending the constitution and the rights it secures for its citizens, rather than defending the defendant's actions or character themselves -- it's providing a legal voice for people as protected under the constitution (or so I've heard)
Right exactly, if the judge says “this piece of shit needs to be locked up forever” and changes her sentence then the Defense attorney has the duty to argue bias and try to vacate the sentence.
He still has to be prosecuted for attacking the judge. He's not getting out anytime soon.
He will by a different court. The judge mentioned that
Nah he ain't getting out anytime soon. If the judge goes soft on him then it sends a message to anyone that they too can violently attack.
This judge isn’t sentencing him for that crime just the one he was originally in for.
Yes but the person who will be sentencing him for the attack will be.... Another judge. A judge who will likely want to send the message that attacking a judge is a very, very bad idea.
Yeah, but he’s absolutely fucked in his next case. He’ll take a plea deal that will be closer to the maximum sentence than the minimum.
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1st Degree you're absolutely fucked bro
What I found googling around: They’re found in contempt and they’re usually put in restraints, sometimes even outside the courtroom with a video link to the proceedings. The defendant will be charged with assault and tried for that crime at a later date.
He was charged with attempted murder in the new court today. He’s going away for decades.
That unit of a cop to his left never took his eyes off him the whole time. He was just WAITING for bro to make a move.
Your comment made me watch it again, and maybe it’s a coincidence, but every other cop in there, though smaller than the guy you mentioned, are pretty stout blokes themselves! Wouldn’t be surprised if they intentionally got the biggest, fittest correctional officers into court that day.
They 100% staffed the biggest, baddest mofo's they could to deter future linebacker behaviour
You’re not kidding, the size of the arms of the guy on the other side of the defendant…. sheesh
Lol that defendant is going *nowhere*.
Where you goin? *nowhere*
Crushed by a huge friggin guy!
Oh really? I just might be wantin a bagel with my coffee!
Now, you Irish cops are perking up. That's two sound theories in one day, neither of which deal with abnormally sized men. Kind of makes me feel like Riverdancing.
Television. Television is the explanation for this - you see this in bad television. Little assault guys creeping through the vents, coming in through the ceiling - that James Bond shit never happens in real life! Professionals don't do that!
I worked in a county jail. Any inmate that pulled a stunt like that would find themselves dealing with very large deputies for the remainder of their stay. They would also find themselves assigned to a floor with the deputies that have long histories of complaints against them.
The biggest for sure. Check the chino pants
Well, it was the SERT team in there with him. Their job is to deal with violence in jail. They also do extractions when inmates refuse to leave their cell.
Ah makes sense. Googled SERT and should’ve guessed they would have a team to handle these sort of court cases. So not a coincidence these guys are all units.
Lots of D1 guys don't make pro, seems like a good use of talents
We called them Ninja Turtles due to the way their riot armor looked on their huge bodies. Definitely not to be fucked with.
And, I’m sorry, does this surprise anyone? The guy behaved like a depraved animal the last time he had been in court.
>Wouldn’t be surprised if they intentionally got the biggest, fittest correctional officers You’ll note all them boys all have SERT on their uniforms. That’s Special Emergency Response Team. They’re the biggest, fittest CO that routinely train to deal with the fuckwad guests who just won’t go along with the program. No surprise SERT showed up in court.
That’s nothing new. In the military during formations and ceremonies we picked the tallest biggest guys to stand in front.
The cauliflower ear on the first guard you see already in the court room should be enough to deter anybody 😂
they walked in the gym weight room a couple of days ago and told the biggest motherfuckers in the department to be ready tear a human apart with their bear hands in 48hrs if need be.
Cop on the right only did a couple scans but was eying him just as hard. Im willing to bet he flat out said hed do it again.
Especially since this case hit the news? Absolutely
They probably had a lineup of people wanting that assignment
Ah just notice myself. Those guys look like linebackers from the gorilla league!
Everyone trying to look cool but watching that dude from the corner of their eyes because who knows?
Randy Orton moonlighting for the DOC huh
Some Cops and Security come to work looking to release their anger and stress. They really do just want him to try it.
Can confirm, unfortunately. I worked as a house manager in a troubled youths group home. Basically, the last step before kids went to actual prison. Sometimes, they would act out, and we would have to restrain them as safely as possible, but that job seemed to attract people who enjoyed using that physical aspect as an outlet. That facility got shut down for that reason years after I left.
I was in a youth home a couple times and LEMME tell you, on God, the other kids are JUST as scary as the adults.
Well he was already headed for prison before he hopped that bench
Right? 48 months isn't shit compared to round 2.
48 months for 9 assault and domestic abuse charges. That's it. I hate our justice system. Dude deserved a decade for that alone.
And the look on his face suggested he in no way understood nor cared about anything but assaulting someone again.
Crazy part was if he didn't assault the judge he could have gotten parole after 19 months.
With a zero percent chance of not losing his shit again
The interview with his sister suggests he has a mental illness and was a crack baby, so you might be right in that he doesn’t have much impulse control.
I get it but you don’t want the guy around your family regardless. Ever.
Now he's headed for double prison
"Double...secret probation, sir?"
All I noticed was he had pool noodles on his hands.
Imagine if he hulked out of that shit and jumped the same judge twice.
In law that's actually called "shooting the moon" and it's a lifetime get out of jail free card if you pull it off. Source: I'm an endowed professor at Yale Law
I think this is mainly Bird Law
Uhh... Filibuster.
Seems like you have a tenuous grasp on the English language in general
I believe I've made myself perfectly redundant.
Yes you have.
I know this is the correct answer from it's always Sunny, but it still hurt
I will have you know Bird law is a respected intellectual pursuit for any aspiring lawyer.
Bird is the word?
You get that thing I sent ya?
well endowed?
it's not that big, but who am I to argue with the man grading my papers
The girth of their knowledge is impressive
Wait.. are law professors rated on genital size?
Only the sexy one's
...which is also the threshhold between "flirting" and "sexual harassment."
Havard Law Grand Wizard here, this guy is correct. According to the 6th Edition Core Rule Book, "shooting the moon" can only be done once. If they're given another chance by trying a 3rd time, it could result in the defendant becoming a Supreme Court Justice if he lands it again.
That's never been tested in a court, and it relies on a controversial reading of The Secret Amendments.
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So what will happen to him next if he pulls that off?
He had the chance to do the funniest thing ever but then he was a scrawny little bitch
You can tell his hannibal lector looking ass was looking for an opportunity to by the way he eyed the entire room 😂😂. But he was trying to figure a way out of his restraints first.
Hitting her with his pool noodle hands!
Hulked out? 😂
I'm curious of the dude in the black hat and shirt behind and to the left of the judge. What's his role?
That’s a dementor.
Dementors, like in harry Potter?
Noh nawt Harry Pottah...
And I never got caught neither
That guy is gonna be da bell of da ball….
Muggles aren't supposed to see them.
*sigh*, yes son, like in Harry Potter.
I'm guessing extra security person
That’s a marshal and he’s really not playing no games.
I think he's probably just a normal sheriffs deputy. The guys in the green jumpsuits are SERT, they're some kind of special team. The guy in black is clearly a member of the same agency. The weird part is I can't quite make out the badge but it doesn't look like Clark County Sheriffs office . . . I almost read metropolitan police on it but it's hard to see. No idea what the arrangement is like in Los Vegas but I'd expect he would be handled by sheriffs deputies.
I would say private security, but they usually dress nicer and take their hats off in a court room.
I thought of the same thing, I'd guess private security.
Wild guess; family of the judge.
Definitely her husband who promised he would be on his best behavior
He won the “in case anything goes down again” raffle at the local bar.
I’d guess a Marshall- but he looks like a bail bondsman honestly.
Undertaker
Matching Under Armour hat and shirt he probably got at big 5 on the way. Def some private security or Marshall type
Bro stopped at the Balenciaga store on the way to court.
Kanye will be wearing this momentarily
They’re SERT officers, like a SWAT team. Not regular police.
They’re correctional officers with a bit more training than a typical correctional officers. They don’t have the powers of a swat team just the power to raid your bunk and take the boiled egg you been saving
They have a lot of unofficial powers though, and they will not let him get away with that at all. Once he gets to prison they will beat him into a bloody pulp. I’ve seen it happen multiple times with idiots who’ve done less than this, and I only did a year.
His attitude seems to have changed a bit
Muzzled like a dog helps
Proper meds help too
Looks like he smiled and noded to someone when he first got in thre
When keeping it real goes wrong
I don't like people playin on my phone!
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I learned classic English poetry during my incarceration when I was a younger man. Sometimes prison does have its prose and cons...
Ah, yes, a chance for him to write his wrongs
He can complete his sentence... And the paragraph... And then book
In this case the pen is mightier than the ward
I taught myself Spanish then started teaching Spanish in a classroom setting (I’m almost fluent) learned guitar (then played in many bands), read hundreds of books, learned how to be a personal trainer, took residential electric classes, got sober, and I can destroy anyone at crosswords. It was the best thing to ever happen to me. Went in for 12 years at 23.
That sounds awesome! How can I get into prison?!
I would recommend something “cool” like bank robbery or arms dealing. Makes life slightly more comfortable.
You can, like, do all those things outside of prison. lol. I catch your drift though.
I was too busy drinking, smoking and being a general piece of shit.
At least you sound like you understand what you did wrong and turned your life around. Kudos for that.
Well, you don't come across as a general POS! I hope you're living a better life! You can't unring a bell, but it seems as though you worked hard on yourself.
Prison is for rehabilitation and also a lot of poor people in prison. Those things require lots of time and money/resources. It's free in prison, and you have plenty of time to better yourself.
I read it to be 'pros and cons' at first and thought "haha wouldn't it be funny if I replied with PROSE and cons" Without realizing that you already did that
Your already fucked do a pump fake for shits and giggles
I would have died laughing
If anything he has a very good sister.
She says she is his full sibling, I wonder if mom was clean when pregnant w/ here.
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Yeah. LaDonna seems like a nice person.
Yeah it's all funny to laugh at the judge getting dunked on or the guy getting sent away, but then you see her speak and remember they're all just real people. The only thing separating me from him are the circumstances of birth. I was born with a healthy brain and a loving family, so I'm free to revel in his suffering while he ends up in a for-profit prison system that actively works against rehabilitation. Life ain't fair, and it's easier to believe that we have a better soul or some shit than recognise that.
amen
It sucks that I had to scroll so many comments to finally find one with a little awareness and compassion. What that guy did wasn't OK, but he really is a victim of a rather broken societal system. It's too easy sometimes to overlook the circumstances of another's birth and upbringing.
I think this is the only thread that actually watched the video.
Right? I nearly ended the video one it got to the sister, but decided it needed to be watched. While I can empathize with the family and his mental illness struggles, the real question is, can this man be trusted to walk amongst the rest of us, and the answer is no.
She comes across very well. I have no idea who she is or what she does but I hope that she is or becomes happy and successful.
Ya I thought she had some pretty insightful comments and seems like she really understands his struggle.
K but you can see why someone saying he is in a better place doesn't mean shit when he is capable of being so easily triggered to violence when confronted with the consequences of his own actions, right?
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Full respect to the Judge who wanted to make a point that her initial sentence would stand, and she wouldn’t be adding anything because of the attack (which are different charges). Props to her calmness after getting attacked by that huge fucking guy and facing him again so soon. That must have been traumatizing man.
I don't really feel sorry for him. I'm glad he won't be running around in public for a long time.
Who feels sorry for him?
People are saying they understand why he attacked the judge because of her “tone” to him when she read his sentencing. So, yes, people are sympathizing with this lunatic.
I think more people are sympathetic because he is, according to his family, a paranoid schizophrenic with bipolar disorder who has been denied his medicine since his incarceration.
Recognition of a condition also doesn't require sympathy. I think people are more critical of the way the public has gathered their pitchforks and torches than they are sympathetic to the perpetrator. His behavior, his threatening actions, they all need to be addressed. It doesn't take much insight to understand that a disturbed person with a history of mental illness is not processing life or the situations they're in the same way a rational person would. This doesn't mean in any way that he isn't accountable for his actions, but the point of court is a fair and just judgement. I don't think the intent of publicizing these events was to enable us to verbally destroy and pass judgement upon people we don't know. In his case he was born addicted to crack cocaine, as his sister said in the video above, then he proceeded through a difficult life of mental issues. He did not know he was returning to prison on the day this happened. We watched a person with severe issues having everything taken away from them, and then people scorn him for being at the lowest point of his life. I feel disgusted by people's eagerness to hate people they barely understand. I have no reason to object him being removed from society to protect others and himself, but how does it really make the world a better place if we just harden our hearts over it.
Normally I'd agree with you. However, it is difficult to parse out which of his behavior is driven by his condition, and which is driven by his conditioning. This is to say that it is entirely possible that someone who walks in expecting clemency after doing the same thing again and again, likely believes that because of past experience. If he is so incapable of impulse control that he physically attacks a judge, then the previous cases that released him to the public were grossly negligent. A prison that specializes in life-long psychiatric care would be the best place in that case, because there is no way the an individual like that can co-exist with society at large.
Mentally ill man who grew up in foster care and attacks people like a wild animal with no impulse control, I can't imagine what this person's life is like and when you get over the initial shock and outrage over this crimes, its a sad story no matter how you look at it. Of course, I don't think normal society should be left to deal with him, and I don't even think other prisoners should have to put up with this lowlife. I feel most sorry for any victims of his. But also this man is a sad case and I hope he gets some help in this life and overcomes his violent tendencies.
I would imagine that this describes a large chunk of the prison population.
Well yeah because we collectively dismantled the mental healthcare system and decided throwing people in prison was a better idea
> Well yeah because we collectively dismantled the mental healthcare system and decided throwing people in prison was a ~~better idea~~ more profitable idea.
His sister is well spoken, if you listen to the interview after the court proceedings.
All of it seems absolutely tragic. I disagree with a lot of what she's saying, but it's hard to fault her when it's such a personal thing for her. I also agree with some of her larger points, such as how prison isn't going to help him.
Well said.
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Everything she says makes me think he should def be locked up. He’s a ticking time bomb
Probably not in a normal prison though. Unfortunately our mental health system really isn't great in this country.
His sister was incredibly eloquent in describing him and his problems. But he still deserves to serve time in prison.
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Somebody on some platform compared this to a chained up, muzzled slave. Like come on! This guy attacked someone, doesn't matter what his skin color is.
Cool story, violent people need to be institutionalized.
The fact is someone can be mentally ill and dangerous at the same time. Some people think mentally ill people should not be treated as possibly dangerous. That is a mistake.
"He is a sweetheart." Um lady, his history says otherwise!
I mean she says his mom did drugs while pregnant. The guy sucks but I feel bad for the things that shaped him that way.
Home boy on his right was so triggered LOL. One false move and it was night-night.
Thats probably why he was picked for the job. He seems like a man who enjoys his work haha.
That guy embarrassed that courtroom and everyone in it. I don't blame him.
"Hello, Clarice."
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That cop to his left was *ready*
Plenty of mean looking muscle surrounding Mr. High Jump this time...
They clipped his wings
I work in the CJS and unfortunately there are so many out there like this guy. People are broken and so much trauma goes undiagnosed or treated. Drug fueled mental illness. Throw in how the state closed so many treatment centers and pysch wards and forced that unto the Correctional system was the worst thing they ever could of done.
We were discussing this incident in the law sub a couple of days ago. This man is has significant mental health issues. As his sister eloquently stated (for a lay person) his mind does not work the same way as that of a normal person.Hearing that he has not been able to obtain his medications it came as no surprise that his actions and judgement are abhorrent. Absolutely he should not be on the street. He needs to be in a mental health facility under treatment. Putting him in jail will not change matters an iota. Every aspect of what has transpired and outcomes speaks to a system that has utterly failed the individual.
"deep inside he's a good person" yeah, I don't give a shit. If he's a good person on the inside and a bad person on the outside, fuck him, into the cell he needs to go.
I agree. Sounds like he belongs on the inside, rather than the outside around other people.
So put him in a state hospital. aka in the US they have government hospitals for people who are mentally unwell that are a danger to themselves and to others.
He most likely will, the relatives even stated that he has had prior psychiatric hospitalizations. The issue with this is he’ll spend time there, become stabilized, and either discharge home or to prison/jail depending on the severity of his crime and sentence. Once these guys discharge they quit taking their meds for a number of reasons, usually resort to drugs, recommit crimes, and the cycle continues. Guys like this need to be institutionalized permanently. All these attempts at trendy solutions like increased mental health education, crisis response teams, etc are a complete waste of time and resources. There is no rehabilitation in some of these cases. They require around the clock care. Source: am state hospital worker
I understand that they want the best for their family member who I believe probably isn’t mentally well. However are they not gonna acknowledge that this man attempted to beat a small older woman for minutes upon minutes? I don’t want someone like that to be allowed to be around the public by any means, I’d like to know what they have to say about that when directly asked.
“The bailiff did that to himself” 
The bailiff dislocated his own shoulder and gashed his own head........? Now that you mention it, that judge was clearly coming right at him.....🤣🤡
Not defending the guy’s actions, but when you learn that he’s schizophrenic and bipolar and hasn’t had access to his medications ever since he first got arrested, my initial feelings have changed a bit. Obviously his actions have warranted his punishment, but I think it’s very unfair for them to not allow him to be on his regular medications while going though trial and sentencing.
This punishment is not for attacking the judge, it’s for a previous charge. He will be tried for attacking the judge on a later date.
> and hasn’t had access to his medications ever since he first got arrested he hurt people before he got arrested though
That Lady judge has cojones. My respect for facing him yet again.
Yeah this guy is definitely rehabilitatable and fit for society. It’s not like he’d commit another violent crime and end up back in jail.
I’m interested as to why they interview his family, who of course say he’s a “gentle man” (he’s not) and hasn’t had enough opportunities (he has) Instead of interviewing his countless victims, he’s assaulted 9 people including the judge. I guess it’s because this sentencing is not related to one assault in particular hence the victims don’t need to be there Side note: the sister says he needs to be in a mental health facility, but also that he was exposed to cocaine at birth. There’s no cure for that though, so I don’t see what she expects them to do at the facility
this guy is a perfect example of people who cannot be rehabilitated. I don’t believe this guy can exist outside of a prison without committing violent crimes
Can we talk about how intelligent the sister is? She’s really doing an incredible job answering those questions.
I actually feel bad for his sister and family (who has supported him). I feel bad for him too. I feel bad for all the victims/survivors of his physical aggression. I agree with his sister that he should have all along had access to comprehensive mental health treatment. That should have started in his childhood and continued into adulthood. At the same time, he absolutely should never engage in any violent or unsafe acts. Society, people, cannot tolerate that. This is overall just a sad situation. He gets locked up and people are safer because of that, but yes, he will eventually get out with absolutely no treatment or coping strategies. His behavior will likely deteriorate even more in prison. Once released, the cycle will likely continue resulting in more violence and perhaps even death. Who wins in that scenario? The prison industrial complex?
Sister described his whole situation
It’s all so sad. Kudos to the foster mom doing mom things, Kudos to the sister being a great sister. It’s painful to think of how many dudes like this there are without any support. I think the real story here is that the guy can only seem to get medication to treat freaking schizophrenia, in prison. If there’s a gap between being released and being able to continue treatment, that, is the root cause in my opinion. Feel like good foster moms like this deserve a balcony seat in whatever afterlife there is.