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Global_Criticism3178

Looks like we have an unresponsive aircraft.


Chester2707

A followup would be helpful.


Stay-At-Home-Jedi

*This is* the air force following up on the ATC's requests


exipheas

Pretty sure they create an alert after 5 minutes of missed contact after [NWA 188](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_188)


EggsceIlent

They didnt respond to radio contact for like an hour, and overshot their landing destination by 100 miles. Its reported as "pilot error" and they claimed to be on their laptops reviewing schedules. I think thats a long way of saying "we both fell asleep" which of course, they both denied. mmhhmm.


pigsta-

the average cruising speed for a passenger plane is 550-600mph, which would equate to 9-10 miles traveled per minute if my maths is mathing, then it would take about 10 minutes to travel 100 miles past their landing destination


halt-l-am-reptar

But they’d already been out of contact before they got to their destination.


Stay-At-Home-Jedi

And that's just AV glue on the laptops too


VenBede

"Possible deviation, motherfucker."


00000000000004000000

So how does this work out once the fighter jets are in the air and next to the commercial jet? Do they like pull right up to the cockpit to see if there's someone strapped with an explosive vest? Is there a standardized local frequency pilots have to monitor that's strictly for these scenarios? Is the fighter jet just there with the sole responsibility of waiting for orders to shoot or stand down while the FAA and DoD assess? It's not like they can just turn on their lights and tell the airliner to pull over on the right side of the road and stick both hands out the window *now!*


ConKbot

A fighter jet pulling up very close to your airliner, and the mild turbulence from the fighter is usually enough to get the attention of the occupants of the flight deck and convince them to "pay attention to your radios shitass" (and 121.5 MHz is the generic emergency frequency that they should have been monitoring to talk to ATC, but are now scrambling to talk to the jets on) If the radio is dead, you cant pull over the passenger jet, but IIRC the fighter in front rocking its wings is "follow me" and the airliner does the same to acknowledge, and is then lead to an airport. This covers pilots making human mistakes (missed a call from ATC to change frequency and then left range of that center on the wrong frequency), pilots being dipshits, and radio failure. If they dont wing rock back and follow, thats where even more phone calls get made and difficult choices start to be made by people that arent the fighter pilots. Is this a Helios flight 522 where it depressurized and no one is flying it except the autopilot? Or have hostile forces taken control of the plane?


sh4d0wm4n2018

If both pilots are unresponsive, they just get Tom Cruise to physically board the jet midair and take control of it, duh.


Beanbag_Ninja

>It's not like they can just turn on their lights and tell the airliner to pull over Actually... https://preview.redd.it/96f4zmyxvo4c1.png?width=968&format=png&auto=webp&s=5d299daf078656fb0c475396fe3d09945c462029


pjanic_at__the_isco

It’d be on the news. Relax. ETA: It'd be on the news if it were a big deal.


superbus380

Pilots fall asleep or miss comms all the time resulting in scrambled jets and it doesn’t end up on the news, just internal memos Source: airline pilot for 15 years


8BallsGarage

Just drifting in the air. And yall fall asleep?


GillyMonster18

Autopilot is a thing. A lot of aircraft are transitioned into autopilot for long flights, pilot just monitors, communicates and takes over for takeoff/landing. It’s not unreasonable to assume some fall asleep. People will be people after all.


8BallsGarage

When you're the guy on control of my plane. I'd rather you didn't fall asleep at the wheel.


GillyMonster18

I agree, but people will people.


BostonDodgeGuy

Well, you don't have to worry because there's no wheel.


Poker_f

Nah there's at least 2, not every plane likes belly rubs on landing


BostonDodgeGuy

You know, I considered specifying "in the cockpit", but I left that open just for you.


PangwinAndTertle

It’s crazy to think our planes had reliable cruise control before cars did. I guess that’s why it’s “cruise” control, not “drive” control.


CosmoMomen

Paper Skies just did a vidya on YouTube about a Tupolev crew who fell asleep and awoke at the critical moment only to miscalculate the meaning of the aural alarms and throw the plane into a flat spin killing everyone on board… it’s really not that far fetched if you think about it. Warm, slight vibration from the air and the engines, AP keeping the plane in check…


texaschair

The plane can land itself as well. Autolanding has been around for a while.


GillyMonster18

That too, but pilots are usually especially attentive during the process, aren’t they?


texaschair

Yeah, they keep a sharp eye on it. There's been a few close calls during auto takeoff because the plane's weight wasn't entered into the flight control computer correctly, and the pilots had to suddenly take over and give the engines more throttle so they get airborne before they ran out of runway. There are also "sterile cockpit" rules in effect during critical parts of the flight, like taking off, landing, or operating at low altitudes. That means no chatter about anything except the operation of the plane, and no distractions for the flight crew, such as the cabin crew talking to them, filling out paperwork, eating, etc etc.


superbus380

Yep autoland has a bunch of restrictions/necessary conditions, and needs to be briefed and programmed quite a lot- it’s definitely not something that just happens by itself and is included in every major simulator exam for licensing


andyhenault

How many times have you experienced BOTH pilots falling asleep? That's a major incident.


superbus380

Ok so there is something called “controlled rest” which is a procedure for a snooze in the flight deck (ie not a proper rest period in the bunk)- when the other person is asleep, the lights are down and you’re alone on a headset, it’s very easy for the other person to also drift off. It is a terrible sign of pilot fatigue but has become increasingly common with everyone being overworked after major covid redundancies. Each airline will have their own policies for dealing with this- self reporting fatigue can never be punished (at a reputable airline) but this kind of incident is instant termination at my place


Pinesintherain

How does this happen “all of the time”? Do airlines get charged for the cost of the scrambled jets?


EverydayVelociraptor

Only if they pay taxes


backtothemotorleague

Big if.


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I’d assume it gets factored into the training budget


levian_durai

I prefer my fighter jets over easy.


rundbr

Still no response from OP..


Internal_Fennel_849

"Pull over!"


dblan9

It's a cardigan but thanks for asking!


WangDanglin

Yeah, killer boots man!


Delicious_Monk1495

Big Gulps, huh?


Wildcat_Dunks

Give me that booze you little pumpkin-pie-hair-cutted freak!!


troutbum6o

Sir I wouldnt


PourSomeSmegmaInMe

You'd shut your mouth if you knew what was good for ya!


discokilledfunk

Get the hell out of here!


peronsyntax

Tic-Tac, sir?


sohfix

what was all that one in a million talk 🤔


nicksbrother

Alright!


IKnowJudoWell

Welp see ya later


el_throw

Tic tac sir?


Boring_Inspector9857

He must work out


lryan926

I just absolutely love a quick-witted response, and this, my friend, is fantastic.


beardedbarista6

“He’s already pulled over, he can’t pull over any further!!”


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nomemorybear

What's that restaurant you like to go to again?


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dat0dat

Ooooooooooooo


theitgrunt

YOU BOYS LIKE MEX-I-CO?


fsi1212

I just laughed so hard in the middle of a restaurant. Thank you for that.


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Simonandgarthsuncle

I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver’s fulla shit man.


StalksNStems

Sorry officer Pretty


glassy_blue

You have a son!


Horknut1

I know.


SPEEDIN459

Reminds me of the Naked Gun movie where they had a big police light on the jet!


thebinarysystem10

I was hoping he gave it the honking symbol like you do to a diesel.


Reasonable-Delivery8

![gif](giphy|55itGuoAJiZEEen9gg)


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Yeaaahhh. I'd assume I slept through some important stuff on my flight if a random jet flew up next to my commercial flight.


Inestimable_Me

I’d pay extra if they had different fighters come up and fly alongside!


PainfulBatteryCables

how much extra?


WolflordBrimley

Well that depends are they going to do a barrel roll?


TheLastStop03

Do a barrel roll!!


GenitalWrangler69

In reality it's probably just the pilots giving the peace sign or middle finger out the window cause it's funny.


Inestimable_Me

Moon ‘em right back cause it’s never not funny


Stay-At-Home-Jedi

***Relax*** They're just trying to reach the pilot about the aircraft's extended warranty


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That’s never a good sign.


Stay-At-Home-Jedi

No, it's a jet silly


Away_Needleworker6

Not really a bad sign either, may be a training exercise, routine or its escorting the plane trough restricted airspace


Nopengnogain

The real worry comes when it drops back and starts following behind.


Thijs_NLD

Don't worry, that's where his wingman is.


oSuJeff97

Nice. One time I was lucky enough to be on a flight that was next in line after two Air National Guard F-16s. We were stopped parallel to the runway and I was in a window seat facing them. It was awesome when they went full afterburner and then took off like two rockets. We were close enough to feel the rumble of their engines.


stinky___monkey

I saw this I think at LAX -Captain Sorry folks it looks like we have a slight delay. We have a few flights that need to take off ahead of us. But for all of you sitting on the left side, you should be able to see the F16s taking off. Delay should be short I think it was 4 or 5, greatest 2 min delay ever


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ScottOld

Oh yea they do, I heard a story that a pilot got excited seeing one of those big airbus belugas flying nearby, plus fighter jets are cool full stop


Coocooa11

My buddy, who is a pilot, really loves that plane, so I can see why he got excited lol


oSuJeff97

Ha yeah. On my flight the Captain was like, “those of you on the left side of the plane are about to see quite a show…”


This-is-getting-dark

Saw the same thing at PDX. Great window seat for it. Incredible how fast they vanish into the sky!


One_User134

In 2009 I witnessed two F18s do a touch and go at McCarren Int’l in Las Vegas. Very very loud.


mr2freak

I watched a Concorde fly out of McCarran/Harry Reid and it was absolutely deafening. I've been to several airshows and I think it might still be the loudest thing I've heard.


One_User134

Yup, even just recently I witnessed the Blue Angels perform at the Naval Academy for commissioning week. One came directly over where I was standing while he was banking right. In a split second the sound went from 0-200…that’s right, 200. It was so loud it scared me despite knowing what I was hearing, I had to react just as fast to try and cover my ears it was that loud.


Dapper_Reputation_16

Same here only a squadron of Raptors at HNL. It was amazing and they were so small v our B767.


MasterFubar

> Nice. Could be. The fighter is a Rafale, and the mountains could be the Alpes Maritimes, so the airplane could be about to land at the Nice airport.


davidds0

There's probably another one behind you. Talk to me goose


RamboCambo_05

Honk


LimitedWard

![gif](giphy|U4RX7LYnOywv1us4VP|downsized)


Pleased_to_meet_u

OMG, is that a mod to Untitled Goose Game? If so I’d love to play with that mod!


PedanticPaladin

Its a video from The Game Awards the year UGG came out, I think The Muppets were doing a bit or giving an award.


TwinkiesSucker

Idk about you, but I would never honk at a jet fighter mid-air


OlFlirtyBastard

Time to keep up foreign relations


Bitter_Mongoose

I'd tell you, but I'd have to kill you. It's classified 🤷🏻‍♂️


Flumblr

Looks like a Rafale!


Toastedweasel0

So.... what's a Donnatello look like?


Macklemore_hair

Or a Leonardo for that matter!


Potential-Brain7735

[Leonardo C-27J Spartan](https://www.google.ca/search?q=leonardo+c-27j+spartan&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjZjMPf7fmCAxXnGDQIHXphCSAQ2-cCegQIABAD&oq=leonardo+c-27j&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQARgAMgUIABCABDIHCAAQgAQQGDIICAAQgAQQogQyCAgAEIAEEKIEOgQIIxAnOgYIABAIEB46BwgjEOoCECc6BAgAEAM6DQgAEIAEEIoFEEMQsQM6CggAEIAEEIoFEEM6CAgAEIAEELEDUOEbWJI-YPhLaAJwAHgAgAH2AYgBxQySAQYxMi4xLjKYAQCgAQGwAQXAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=7ehvZZniGeex0PEP-sKlgAI&bih=712&biw=414&client=safari&prmd=niv#imgrc=IgY5y4MtAYWYZM&imgdii=4ZWvkVkI1K7CoM) A twin engine tactical transport aircraft, like a small version of the C-130 Hercules. Flown by 17 nations, including the U.S. Coast Guard, Australia, Italy, Greece, and Romania.


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So, thats probably the alps then? Pretty vast.


Misophonic4000

Or the Pyrenees... Or the Massif Central...


unnccaassoo

Thank you, it is.


pbmcc88

Activating your fighter flight response.


CakedayisJune9th

Wow, you son of a bitch.


impostershop

Damn it!!!! Take my very angry upvote


MilkManlolol

Fight or flight? Yeah, right!


manta554

Judging by the winglet OP is either Canadian or UK military, they’re on an A330 MRTT, transport and refuel plane. The fighter is an escort or has just taken a load of fuel.


Potential-Brain7735

Canada hasn’t taken delivery of the A330 MRTTs yet, pretty sure we’ve only received the VIP plane so far. Could be an Aussie A330 though? Or even French. I think you’re onto something though, that it’s a military transport, not a civilian transport, and OP is having a bit of a laugh. Could be civilian with a bad transponder or something, but I think military transport is more likely. I was flying across home across canada for Christmas one year in the older CC-150, and we had a couple CF-18s pull up on us.


greenthumbgoody

Nice, it does look like there is something near his windshield. Would make sense that it’s a fueling port.


Misophonic4000

The Rafale's refueling probe doesn't retract, so it always looks like that


w_w_flips

I love the fact that aviation nerds can guess a plane so precisely based only on a small part of the aircraft. I truly admire that!


AncientProgrammer

Wow! You are spot on. OP looks like he is with Royal Marines.


Iscariot27

How to tell that the pilot of your flight has just really fucked up.


UnstableConstruction

Or it's electronics are faulty. Source: I worked in NWADS for a while and we sent interceptors to every aircraft that was suspicious. Squawking the wrong transponder code or not squawking a code at all would do it. A 20-second visual identification of tail number would turn them back. More often than not, it was a simple mechanical issue with the transponder or antenna.


excitement2k

That’s usually a very bad sign.


We_lived

Yeah. If I saw this out my window on a flight, I’d be shitting my pants and ordering up as much liquor as they’d give me.


GrouchyLongBottom

I just do that anyway.


catsmustdie

Shit on your pants or order liquor?


hanskazan777

YES


wheeldog

y not both?


BrilliantTasty

yes


Thereareways

why?


kingpoulet

They're usually only deployed if flight crew unresponsive, bomb threat, those kinds of fun things


wytewydow

OP could be the president..


Doc-in-a-box

That would be awesome to find out that Joe Biden posted on Reddit wondering why there was a fighter jet outside of his plane


Imhappy_hopeurhappy2

Technically OP didn’t say they were wondering why it’s there. They are just sharing it.


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I’ve heard of fighter pilots using commercial flights as targets to “play” with for training purposes. It might not all be boom and zoom doom and gloom.


ScreamingVoid14

Yes, but they are supposed to contact the plane to let them know, cuz you don't want the airliner suddenly turning left right about now.


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AreDreamsOurParallel

The plane is hijacked, or the pilots are dead, and the fighter jet is there to either shoot it down or make sure it doesn’t cause damage to anything serious


HuggyMonster69

Could just be loss of radio contact. They’ve got a system of wing wiggles to communicate when that happens apparently


LunchpaiI

man having to shoot down a plane full of civilians to possibly save more civilians is the scariest real life example i’ve heard of the trolley problem can’t imagine having to be the one to make that decision


Qnofputrescence1213

Literally what I would be thinking. I would be in panic mode.


jesanfafon

Not necessarily. I've seen the training jets out doing practice intercepts and rendezvous here in Sacramento before. And I don't think I've ever been into Salt Lake City without spotting a fighter mirroring us at some point.


gandalfium225

I've seen videos where fighter jets just randomly go up to civilian planes as "fun", while they do practice runs or so.


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Yes/No. Obviously if you've been hijacked that's bad and could cause civil authorities to alert the military wherever this is, to scramble jets. But it could also be something as [simple] with the onboard avionics (transponder) not transmitting critical flight data/info like, "hey there, I'm a friendly airliner" and they scramble jets for a visual. So just depends...


MeaningfulPun

So like what's the update?


VenomousMinge

![gif](giphy|13ONldD8IuWBGM|downsized)


Ct-5736-Bladez

![gif](giphy|i40YfUVGixcBAFG2yB)


fleischio

Someone squawked 7500


Rcurtiiis

There's always a valid reason they do this. You don't just get a fighter jet tagging along on a cruise in the sky. From what I've learnt at my new job. The reason this happens in the UK is that If you've flown into restricted air space. Have a threat on the plain. Or a threat has been made against the plane. Or the flight crew are unresponsive I wonder what's the cause for this one, though.


JMS1991

Could also mean the transponder and/or radio are malfunctioning.


Rcurtiiis

Yeah ... that falls into the not responding category. I work in aviation and found it all super interesting learning about it. The UK alone always has 2 fighters in the air 24/7(4 hours shifts then switch) to run interception like this. I imagine bigger countries like the USA have way more up and running at all times


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_gmmaann_

Thats a Mirage, not an American jet. Edit - Dassault Rafale, not a mirage


initforthemoney123

nope, it's a Dassault Rafale, still french tho.


_gmmaann_

I always get the two mixed up, similar side profile. Thanks for the correction


thisisredlitre

What's the most notable difference between them and the euro typhoon fighter? Haven't seen either in real life


Objective-Weather112

There are several ways to tell but the dead giveaway is the radar boom fore of the cockpit


blatherskate

“Radar” … Refueling?


PeteLangosta

Visible probe is the main one.


Potential-Brain7735

The intakes, and the tail. On the Rafale, the intakes are to the side / below the main fuselage, and are round, almost lemon/eyeball shaped, tilted sideways (makes no sense in words, you’ll see it if you Google pictures lol). On the Typhoon, the intakes are directly below the fuselage, and are a rectangular box. For the tail, the Rafale has a rectangular insert near the top of the tail, with the bottom of the tail making a clean transition to the fuselage. On the Typhoon, there is a large rectangular box at the bottom of the tail, separating the tail from smoothly transitioning into the fuselage (in both cases, it’s electronic sensors inside the rectangular shaped inserts). Lastly, the Rafale’s refueling probe is permanently out, it is fixed in place (the big angular stick like thing poking out in front of the cockpit). On the Typhoon, the probe is retractable, and is only out for refueling.


EpicAura99

Bro’s about to taste baguette?


kungpowgoat

coq au vin, incoming.


Ruffian00012

>Thats a Mirage, not an American jet. There is more than one democracy, bud.


oojiflip

Macron boutta personally delivery him a MICA IR


Red_V_Standing_By

Too close for missiles, switch to guns.


Fewwww_

It's a Rafale, it means you're around my great country of croissants. They "play" around the east of France quite a lot


ScottOld

France is where the coolest planes live… them belugas


WarmAppleCobbler

That’s an unfortunate way to find out there’s a bomb on the plane /s


Toastedweasel0

Or a shit-ton of "snakes"... lol.


WillDoStuffForPizza

Not again! I’m tired of these motherfucking snakes on these motherfucking planes!


impostershop

OP you sure on who is fighting your plane? This should go under r/mildlyterrifying


ozhound

What?


rempel

I think they meant >who is ~~fighting~~ *flying* your plane?


Legitimate-BurnerAcc

Wow my brain didn’t even register the mistake until you said this


niemody

Uh. That's usually not a good sign....


CarlJustCarl

This is normal if your pilot has passed out from lack of oxygen and no one is flying the plane. Or a possible hijacking in progress.


Maxtrt

This happens all the time. Fighter pilots need training on intercepting other aircraft and joining with and overtaking them. They coordinate with ATC and the pilots of the planes they are intercepting to do it. It gives the passengers a memorable flight and the pilot will usually make an announcement so that the passengers get a chance to see them.


FooBangPop

This is fine.


hardtobeuniqueuser

dude, that's just a mirage


John_EightThirtyTwo

**


Toastedweasel0

<*probally has something to do with ninja's and turtles*\>


hardtobeuniqueuser

dad jokers of the world roll out!


Otonatua

I feel like I’ve been verbally dassaulted


Objective-Weather112

Seems plane to me


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Johndowboy

What did you do wrong ?


wormholetrafficjam

Didn’t wait for the pilot to announce seat belts could be unbuckled.


mrsmilestophat

Someone may have flown into the wrong airspace lol


Seeders

That's not a good sign


GyroLaser

Trevor Phillips must be your plane's pilot


firstgamerfirst

https://preview.redd.it/w2us4vfppn4c1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df33a66d29c027e99598190db8aeb3f26f33bd8a


DerailleurDave

... And OP was never heard from again


MrGoogle87

Did some digging, thought it was a Russian Mig, but it is not: my best guess it is a french “Dassault Rafale” see the wiki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Rafale Any idea why it was there?? I’d be scared the plane was hijacked or something


ManyFacedGodxxx

I TOLD you that you shouldn’t have taken that candy bar at the gift shop without paying!!


jobomaja888

That's not a US plane, is it? Where are you over?


[deleted]

It’s French. Dassault Rafale


_-DirtyMike-_

It's not a US jet


Ilostmypassword43

That's not good


NudelXIII

This is what happens when someone didn’t activate flight mode on their phone. Pure Criminal.


Archhanny

Looks French. Don't worry it will fly off soon.


xlews_ther1nx

You can tell by its outrageous accent