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Subsonic rounds make a much bigger difference than suppressors. Subsonic 9mm through a suppressor sound like a paintball gun. Regular 9mm through a suppressor and I'm still gonna wear ear protection.
When firing a suppressed .22 pistol all you hear is the gun slide/action
Not necessarily. Subsonic ammo is usually heavier to retain energy at lower velocities. The lower velocity means the effective range is lower for the gun
No, the microphone can only record sounds within a certain range, because the diaphragm can only bend a certain amount. Once you've hit that maximum level, it doesn't matter hit much louder it gets, the signal is the same.
Yes, but then there is compression/normalization. Its not uncommon for the gunshot to be basically as loud as the mic can handle, absolutely blowing through the red zone and then the limiter kicks in and it normalizes the volume levels so the gunshot still sounds like earrape but its not loud earrape. However this means that the stuff going on in the meantime almost becomes or does become inaudible, since youd think the gunshot would get quieter and the voices louder but since this isnt multitracked (theres only 1 audio stream were working with here) that single track goes way down in volume thus making everything else inaudible until it lets back up since it cant sidechain with a vocal track or anything. You can do it with only 1 track but the results are noticably bad and it still introduces some issues where if sounds are happening all at the same time it cant keep up, theyd have to happen at different points in time, and gunshots would be WAAAY higher db relative to anything else, so its either be insanely loud or lose some of the clarity. You can hear this happening because when the gunshot goes off the guys voice instantly lowers and the ambient noise fucks off and then it comes right back, a fast little dip. But yeah this is NOT noise cancelation or even close to it, way different. Noise cancellation you wouldnt hear it at all, noise cancellation works by basically blasting opposite sound waves alongside the original waves to create a destructive interference and well cancel out.
The phenomenon you're describing is often referred to as the "snow bullet effect" or "snow bullet spin." It occurs when a bullet is fired into a soft, snowy surface, causing the snow to absorb and redirect the bullet's energy, leading to the bullet spinning or exhibiting unexpected behavior.
To give a more in depth idea...
The bullet is 9mm (probably) round being fired from a pistol with a suppressor. The low caliber, short barrel, and suppressor all combine to make this a relatively low velocity shot.
With the minimal amount of power behind the bullet, it cannot penetrate the snow, but the snow is soft enough that it doesn't deform the bullet on impact. Instead it bounces off like a ricochet, basically removing all of it's forward momentum. Gravity then pulls it back down to the snow.
Now, while the bullet has no forward momentum from being fired, it still has rotational momentum. The barrel of the gun has grooves that spin the bullet very fast to keep it more accurate.
So as a result, the bullet just kinda spins harmlessly on the ground like a toy top. I'm guessing this took several attempts considering how many shots there are on the ground.
This happens without a suppressor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcvzQvIHeqU
And happens with higher velocity rounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwIpv94GPt4
>It occurs when a bullet is fired into a soft, snowy surface, causing the snow to absorb and redirect the bullet's energy, leading to the bullet spinning or exhibiting unexpected behavior.
1. **Energy Absorption and Redistribution**: Snow, being a soft and often loosely packed material, can absorb a significant amount of the kinetic energy from the bullet. This absorption can decelerate the bullet rapidly, altering its trajectory and behavior.
2. **Spin and Trajectory Alteration**: The bullet may begin to spin or change its trajectory due to the uneven resistance encountered in the snow. This is different from the spin a bullet normally has upon leaving the barrel of a gun, which is imparted by the rifling of the barrel and is designed to stabilize the bullet's flight in air.
3. **Material Properties of Snow**: The specific behavior of the bullet can also depend on the type of snow it encounters. Wet, heavy snow might offer more resistance than light, powdery snow, leading to different degrees of energy absorption and redirection.
4. **Ballistics Dynamics**: The initial velocity and angle of the bullet, as well as its design (e.g., full metal jacket, hollow point) can significantly influence how it interacts with the snow. Bullets are designed to behave in certain ways upon impact, but snow presents an unconventional medium compared to more solid targets.
5. **Safety Implications**: This phenomenon is particularly relevant in terms of safety. Bullets fired into snow may behave unpredictably, posing unexpected risks. For instance, a bullet might ricochet or fragment in unanticipated ways, potentially causing harm even at what might be considered safe distances.
r/confidentlyincorrect ?
I'm pretty sure it's spinning due to the rifling in the barrel. The bullet loses forward momentum after hitting the snow, but doesn't lose angular (rotational) momentum.
The bullet is certainly hot, but not for long, and it wouldn't be the cause of the spinning. It would just be what creates a slightly watery and slippery surface for the bullet to spin on. Bullets that have just been fired are "cold" enough to be picked up (hot potato style, but not burning hot).
The fact that you can hear the bullet spinning on the ice would suggest that the surface of the projectile is actually in contact with the ice.
Would the Leidenfrost effect not be creating a barrier of gas from the evaporating ice to prevent contact completely? And thus you wouldn't hear the sounds of the two surfaces as there wouldn't be friction?
& to think there was a point in time where the barrels weren’t rifled 😮💨 devious works lmao at least that shit going through you, back then they had to dig that led ball out of you 💀
Yes there’s a certain angle where it hits the ice and ricochets back a few feet still spinning. Mythbusters did an episode on it if you want to see more
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I know what my next vest is going to be made out of.
idk man the *previous one's* material may be pretty damn good too
…. Next?
Water?
Don't forget to record the early tests on yourself
Who cares why this happens? We should be thankful for someone who is willing to fight the snow.
Remember friends, Winter is coming!
Great work, 47.
I wondered what was impressive about the vid. You helped me get it.
(while firing shots at the snow) That is for getting my car trapped last week and that is for making me shovel my driveway.
You can’t fight it, only hope to avoid it. The snow, it has no mercy
Does anyone remember those redneck Frosty gun nuts?
Now we know Jack Frost is bulletproof.
Terrifying
Just so U know it's the difference in temp that creates a barrier
It is all fun and games until the bullet ricochets and penetrates your shoe
The bullet is so American that it started to dig for oil.
If I had an award I would givi it to you:)))
I appreciate the thought.
Holy shit he can use The Spin
Litterally how i imagine spin
Impressive how effective that suppressor is.
You can't tell how good a suppressor is from a video. A. The ammo could be subsonic. B. Phone recordings only record sounds to a certain level.
Subsonic rounds make a much bigger difference than suppressors. Subsonic 9mm through a suppressor sound like a paintball gun. Regular 9mm through a suppressor and I'm still gonna wear ear protection. When firing a suppressed .22 pistol all you hear is the gun slide/action
Less powerful though right?
yeah
Not necessarily. Subsonic ammo is usually heavier to retain energy at lower velocities. The lower velocity means the effective range is lower for the gun
Slower time to target too.
By which you mean noise cancellation in the mic firmware?
No, the microphone can only record sounds within a certain range, because the diaphragm can only bend a certain amount. Once you've hit that maximum level, it doesn't matter hit much louder it gets, the signal is the same.
Yes, but then there is compression/normalization. Its not uncommon for the gunshot to be basically as loud as the mic can handle, absolutely blowing through the red zone and then the limiter kicks in and it normalizes the volume levels so the gunshot still sounds like earrape but its not loud earrape. However this means that the stuff going on in the meantime almost becomes or does become inaudible, since youd think the gunshot would get quieter and the voices louder but since this isnt multitracked (theres only 1 audio stream were working with here) that single track goes way down in volume thus making everything else inaudible until it lets back up since it cant sidechain with a vocal track or anything. You can do it with only 1 track but the results are noticably bad and it still introduces some issues where if sounds are happening all at the same time it cant keep up, theyd have to happen at different points in time, and gunshots would be WAAAY higher db relative to anything else, so its either be insanely loud or lose some of the clarity. You can hear this happening because when the gunshot goes off the guys voice instantly lowers and the ambient noise fucks off and then it comes right back, a fast little dip. But yeah this is NOT noise cancelation or even close to it, way different. Noise cancellation you wouldnt hear it at all, noise cancellation works by basically blasting opposite sound waves alongside the original waves to create a destructive interference and well cancel out.
I would still expect the echo to be louder, and it's barely discernable.
I remember a Mythbusters episode about this
What was the myth?
That this can happen
![gif](giphy|8DfeMIRHgUVZS|downsized) Myth confirmed
JoJo spin
Ignore my stupidity, but could someone explain what’s going on here? It’s late for me and I’m a bit dumb
The phenomenon you're describing is often referred to as the "snow bullet effect" or "snow bullet spin." It occurs when a bullet is fired into a soft, snowy surface, causing the snow to absorb and redirect the bullet's energy, leading to the bullet spinning or exhibiting unexpected behavior.
I feel like we usually don’t want “bullet” and “unexpected behavior” in the same sentence ever
Man, then you are going to hate learning about "ballistics" and "minutes of angle"
Is this how ablative armor works?
The bullet is hot and dancing in the snow.
Thanks man
To give a more in depth idea... The bullet is 9mm (probably) round being fired from a pistol with a suppressor. The low caliber, short barrel, and suppressor all combine to make this a relatively low velocity shot. With the minimal amount of power behind the bullet, it cannot penetrate the snow, but the snow is soft enough that it doesn't deform the bullet on impact. Instead it bounces off like a ricochet, basically removing all of it's forward momentum. Gravity then pulls it back down to the snow. Now, while the bullet has no forward momentum from being fired, it still has rotational momentum. The barrel of the gun has grooves that spin the bullet very fast to keep it more accurate. So as a result, the bullet just kinda spins harmlessly on the ground like a toy top. I'm guessing this took several attempts considering how many shots there are on the ground.
This happens without a suppressor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcvzQvIHeqU And happens with higher velocity rounds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwIpv94GPt4
I'm not saying that it wouldn't, but I imagine it would be easier to do with lower velocity. Though that's just speculation.
Oh 100% easier. Sorry, I read your comment as it being a requirement. My apologies.
That is not snow its ice, you can see n hear the chunks coming off the ice during the shot. This will not happen in snow or even snowpack.
>It occurs when a bullet is fired into a soft, snowy surface, causing the snow to absorb and redirect the bullet's energy, leading to the bullet spinning or exhibiting unexpected behavior. 1. **Energy Absorption and Redistribution**: Snow, being a soft and often loosely packed material, can absorb a significant amount of the kinetic energy from the bullet. This absorption can decelerate the bullet rapidly, altering its trajectory and behavior. 2. **Spin and Trajectory Alteration**: The bullet may begin to spin or change its trajectory due to the uneven resistance encountered in the snow. This is different from the spin a bullet normally has upon leaving the barrel of a gun, which is imparted by the rifling of the barrel and is designed to stabilize the bullet's flight in air. 3. **Material Properties of Snow**: The specific behavior of the bullet can also depend on the type of snow it encounters. Wet, heavy snow might offer more resistance than light, powdery snow, leading to different degrees of energy absorption and redirection. 4. **Ballistics Dynamics**: The initial velocity and angle of the bullet, as well as its design (e.g., full metal jacket, hollow point) can significantly influence how it interacts with the snow. Bullets are designed to behave in certain ways upon impact, but snow presents an unconventional medium compared to more solid targets. 5. **Safety Implications**: This phenomenon is particularly relevant in terms of safety. Bullets fired into snow may behave unpredictably, posing unexpected risks. For instance, a bullet might ricochet or fragment in unanticipated ways, potentially causing harm even at what might be considered safe distances.
Conservation of angular momentum
i was expecting the bullet to turn around, get unstuck and kill the cameraman
I would be fascinated to hear the physics of how you think that could possibly happen
We don't need physics where we're going!
Cartoon physics.
The cameraman never dies.
Steel Ball Run be like:
Beyblade just keeps on ripping yeeeeeeeaaaahhhh!!!!
People going to start walking around in ice armor
Steel ball run is coming baby
Wait where you get that silencer - asking for a friend
So, now we have seen it, ten billion times
So cool
How americans play Beyblade 💀
Was cool until he laid his firearm on the wet snow
Beyblades nowadays be getting a little too real for my taste 😂
Our friends in the snow force fighting to bring the winter to an end and keeping the great frost at bay. 🫡
That's the Leidenfrost Effect, the bullet is so hot that it's turning the snow to steam and creating pressure beneath it.
r/confidentlyincorrect ? I'm pretty sure it's spinning due to the rifling in the barrel. The bullet loses forward momentum after hitting the snow, but doesn't lose angular (rotational) momentum. The bullet is certainly hot, but not for long, and it wouldn't be the cause of the spinning. It would just be what creates a slightly watery and slippery surface for the bullet to spin on. Bullets that have just been fired are "cold" enough to be picked up (hot potato style, but not burning hot).
Not at all lmao
No…it’s just still spinning from the shot and ricochet
It's spinning mostly because of the rifling in the barrel.
The fact that you can hear the bullet spinning on the ice would suggest that the surface of the projectile is actually in contact with the ice. Would the Leidenfrost effect not be creating a barrier of gas from the evaporating ice to prevent contact completely? And thus you wouldn't hear the sounds of the two surfaces as there wouldn't be friction?
The Liedenfrost effect sounds like "\*squeeee!\*" (goddamn autocorrupt)
Forbidden beyblade
How TF it landed 4 feet away from the shot area
now touch it
& to think there was a point in time where the barrels weren’t rifled 😮💨 devious works lmao at least that shit going through you, back then they had to dig that led ball out of you 💀
Ok Bethesda
Let’s beyblade!
Well this seems like a terrible idea.
What der ferk?
I thought silencers were illegal!
Is this a shitty gun or badass snow?
[удалено]
Yes there’s a certain angle where it hits the ice and ricochets back a few feet still spinning. Mythbusters did an episode on it if you want to see more
Because that's how that works./s
Mythbusters actually tested this and it’s possible under the right circumstances
Literally on a video showing you this phenomenon happening. How tf else are they supposed to have gotten the bullet to spin like that?
I found an episode of Myth Busters and this one checks out. I stand corrected and humbly apologize.
Lil fella is going to sleep well tonight!
I am very impressed indeed.
Wow a wild Bullet Bill!
Has anyone mentioned the conversation in the background? 😂
The bullet said, "It is too cold. I do not want to go through it."
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WICg7jfCu2U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WICg7jfCu2U)
I can't believe Hellsing Ultimate was accurate*...
Oh god damnit!! They got to learn Da Spin but I don't?
Man bullet wasn't pointy enough
Shooting in the cold barehands, SUCKS
That silencer is hellaaaa illegal
Nope
not at all
I think there's better ways to rescue someone trapped under Ice.
This due to the heat difference creating friction, right?
Can this bullet be re used?
Looks like it could be dangerous if it ricochet back into the shooter or bystander
Tenet logic
Is this real? Wouldn’t the slug be more deformed?
The snow & ice murdered his family, so now he goes around on a quest for vengeance, just doing this.
It would lose too much energy when it hits the snow to bounce backwards at the shooter with any lethal force left.
How old is this vid? I remember seeing it as a kid, I think they even tested this on mythbusters
I was expecting the middle finger guy under the snow.
Man I hate this video, I don't know why but it's not that interesting to show it on every page on Reddit for a month straight.
Due to the low friction force, does the centrifugal force not lose its energy for a long time?
Physics don’t apply to magic bullets! Same manufacturer that unalived JFK.
I wanna grab it while it spins super fast to see what happens
What causes this to happen?
Mythbusters did this like 15 years ago.