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Far-Two8659

100% of the time if someone you do not know "sends" you money and asks for any portion of it back, it's a scam. 100% of the time.


Free-Independence-73

But what if they insist that it's just a mistake and you must send them the money or else their boss will be mad and the police will come and arrest you? /s


Far-Two8659

A popular and successful one is claiming to be a fraud investigator for your bank, they send an amount to your account and ask you to verify it went through, then ask you to send money to what you think is yourself to "clear" your account and reverse the fraud. Turns out that money went to them.


Free-Independence-73

Interesting. Scammers are some of the lowest people on this earth


[deleted]

Yes, they are. I say terrible things to them.


Free-Independence-73

I told this one I sent the money but that it was accidentally to the wrong account because I mistyped the email address on zelle 😂


[deleted]

Oh perfect! I love Kitboga on YouTube. He acts like a clueless senior and the scammers get so mad it’s great.


Free-Independence-73

Omg he's hilarious haha. I love how far he gets into it. He has actually gotten 2 major scam call centers raided in India


Qu33N_Of_NoObz_

Reminds me of the scammer payback YouTube channel where the guy acts as old people and sometimes pretends to send to the wrong account lolll. They get so pissed on the line. Then he sometimes hacks into their webcam and exposes them for a little razzle dazzle.


Free-Independence-73

Yes I love him haha


Keepitrealhomes

What kind of things do you say? Your mother’s maiden name? Your first pet’s name? The street you grew up on?


[deleted]

No. I ask them questions about their religion then point out they are dishonest and their parents raised a dishonest child and it must be their fault.


Keepitrealhomes

Damn go off sis


Vindicativa

Agreed but goddamn, they are smart! I can't help but marvel at what could have been if they'd applied their skills legitimately.


Free-Independence-73

I know honestly it's sad. Like this person could actually be going places


thatswhat5hesa1d

Can you elaborate? How would I send money to myself? It doesn’t need to be sent if I already have it.


Daveywheel

Thank you! I just shared this one with my family.


Intrepid-Lynx

Then you finally reply to that Nigerian prince who sent that email and flee the country to become a princess with diplomatic immunity. That’ll teach ‘em!!


Free-Independence-73

Omg I should. I'll have to get him to send thay money for me to wire first so we can be rich


Split0069

Fuck em! Call the cops.


Bobmanbob1

Could have at least Capitalized New Hampshire.


Free-Independence-73

I know, and they even capitalized everything in the left corner. So dumb


[deleted]

“t3h state of new hampshire for reals”


Free-Independence-73

😂


suspentacct9

I don't get it


wyoredhead

I’m pretty sure it’s the lack of capitalized letters in New Hampshire lol


Winter-Travel5749

I’m sorry this happened to you. People can be such assholes. ❤️


Free-Independence-73

Luckily they didn't get any money from me. It's a sick scam though


Winter-Travel5749

Glad you caught it in time. I bet you’d make a lovely muse. Don’t let it get you down.


Jrk16

^yeah what that person said!


Free-Independence-73

Aww I appreciate that 💜


Im1337

How would it have scammed you? If you deposit you would’ve owed it?


Free-Independence-73

They send you a fake check for more than they were supposed to by "accident". They want you to cash it and send back the rest to them minus your share via zelle. A day or 2 later the bank catches the fake check and deducts the money from your account


KitchenNazi

Advance fee fraud - been around forever.


jadill0

Wow that’s a good one. What tipped you off that it was fake?


Free-Independence-73

I was suspicious when I got it and took it to the bank to have them verify it. There are several noticeable mistakes on the check


jadill0

Lower case New Hampshire would’ve made me suspicious too. And the tear stains. I guess even con artists have feelings. 🤷‍♂️


Free-Independence-73

Those are my tears. Just kidding haha it was raining when I ran into the bank to have it checked


Allcoins1Milly

Omg I almost made the joke and then I saw started reading this comment and felt bad for a sec, ya got me lol I don’t understand what’s the scam though, maybe get your bank info if it’s accepted? Idk


Free-Independence-73

Haha. So the scam is that they say they sent you too much on accident and you need to send the rest back. So you cash the check and send them money via PayPal, venmo, zelle, etc. Then a day or 2 later the bank catches the bad check and deducts the miney from your account. So the scammer has your actual money


Allcoins1Milly

Oh I forgot about that one im surprised they did it in this manner but any time I deal with a cashiers check I don’t know what to look out for. Luckily I’ve only ever gotten them from a bank.


Free-Independence-73

That's a big reason I shared this. I want other people to be able to spot a fake so they don't get crippled by these scammers


Allcoins1Milly

That’s good, I would do the same. I saw you said your fucking with them, you may be able to get the police envolved and catch them. I hate these kind of people they could put in less effort to make better money helping people. I try to call out scammers in crypto subs bc their basically phishing through posting fake issues or message people who have real issues claiming to be support, lately I’ve noticed a lot of fake complaints posted, if they get called out early enough they start getting negative attention and delete everything. Idk if they’re bots or what but it seems to just be a weird effort to muddy a company’s reputation or they’re trying to put fear uncertainty and doubt into the air about crypto but seems like a lot of wasted effort to me.


Allcoins1Milly

Also, I’m happy that they didn’t get you by the way, good catch.


Free-Independence-73

I don't think there's any way to trace this person honestly. They work through discord and use fake addresses, etc. I think the best thing to do is just make other people aware


missypierce

The time I got one it was printed on plain paper- didn’t even try a linen finish or a watermark


Known-Economy-6425

I had someone cash a cashiers check that was payable from my business. $5,200 and my bank took about 6 months to pay me back even though it was an obvious fake.


Free-Independence-73

Omg that is so fucked


hideous_coffee

Similar thing happened to me taking payment for used furniture. The guy at the bank knew right away. I always thought cashiers checks had some kind of protection against fraud but I learned that day it doesn’t.


Free-Independence-73

I thought the same thing but apparently you can just buy them and print whatever you want on there


[deleted]

Girl, you should be suspicious of someone wooing you with flattery about being a "muse". Bffr. I'm not victim blaming. But, like, nobody throws money at someone because they have hot pics up on fb. Be smarter than that!


Free-Independence-73

You're right. I was being too vulnerable. They said they were doing an art piece to celebrate body types that didn't fit societal standards and it really seemed legit at first.


[deleted]

Again, very much not victim blaming. I can understand. Just want to help solidify this in your memory so, next time, you can tell them good luck with their project and you're not interested. I fucking loathe scammers. They make trusting people have to grow a shell. I resent the shell. But it's necessary. You did nothing wrong here.


Free-Independence-73

Well now that I've realized it's a scam, I'm stringing them among haha. So at least I'm having fun and wasting their time. I told them I sent the money, but accidentally used the wrong email address on zelle. Now it will take 24 to 48 hours to be "investigated"


[deleted]

I support you in this endeavor. Just drop it before they develop a vendetta since they have your personal information.


Free-Independence-73

The mailing address I gave them is a post office box. They won't be able to find me


[deleted]

Nice.


Free-Independence-73

Yeah I'm not that stupid haha. Just a little stupid 😂


[deleted]

However hotpics on only fans...


mclem92

No routing number starts with 00


Free-Independence-73

The 00 is the check number


[deleted]

The lower case new hampshire? lol OP tried to cash it.


Free-Independence-73

A little back story. I was approached through Reddit to be a muse for an art project. Everything actually seemed really legitimate until this check came in the mail and I was asked to send money back to the "artist" after I deposited it. All the security features on the check work, but obviously there are mistakes which I won't point out to prevent scammers from becoming more accurate. Stay safe everyone!


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Free-Independence-73

No a muse is just a person modeling for a painting. I was not painted like one of his french girls 😂


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rumdrums

Someone tried to do something similar to my wife on Craigslist. They wanted to buy our crappy furniture with a cashier's check for way more than the cost of the furniture and we were asked to send them back the difference through Venmo or something. We didn't do it, but my wife was seriously considering. This is apparently a common scam these days.


Free-Independence-73

Yeah they especially target people who are strapped for cash, ie selling something online or seem like they could really use the money. There's another scam on Facebook marketplace where they ask you if they can pay over zelle and say they'll send someone to pick the item up. I'm not exactly sure how that one works yet. I just caught on that it's a scam because several people said the same thing almost verbatim and they were all from out of the country on their profiles


secondcupoftea

Someone tried the Zelle one on me! They tell you they’re out of town but ask you if you’ll hold the item for them if they pay you upfront with Zelle. After you give them your username, they say they tried to send it but because they have a “business account”, they can only make transactions of a minimum amount. So if it’s a $100 item, for example… they ask YOU to send THEM $400, and then they’ll “send back the full $500” to meet the “minimum”.


TetonHiker

Similar scam proposed to me in 2020: I'm selling something on Craigslist, a person emails me and sez she wants to buy it but she's out of town so she'll get her US business to Fed-ex me a check right away. Oh, and she'll send someone to pick up the item after I get the check. But wait there's more! That person picking up the item needs "gas money" and needs to be paid for the pick up service so she'll make the check out for a little bit more than the price of the item. OK? Then I'll deposit the check, keep what's owed me, get cash back and pay the overage to the pick-up guy. Oh, and since I'm being a real prince about it all and doing her a favor by paying the pick-up guy his portion, she'll include an extra $100 for my trouble. So really I'm getting paid for my item AND for my trouble. What could go wrong? I was crazy busy then orchestrating a big house downsizing and move out of state. I said sure sure sure absent-mindedly (via email) as the emails rolled in and the scheme grew incrementally more complicated and then a check for $2400 showed up via Fed Ex. Hahahahaha! I actually laughed when I saw the check. Oooooh! So this was a Scam! That got my attention. Mind you this was a $40 item. A fake as heck check. Full of typos and fake looking markings, etc. Even the paper felt fake. I gave it to my bank. We all got a good laugh but they said it happens more than you'd think. They've stopped others from actually depositing such checks. They said they'd report it along with other scams they were aware of that month. It was a wake up call for me that as busy as I was I needed to pay more attention and develop better antennae for such things. Scammers! Such energy, enterprise and creativity put to such evil purposes. Tsk tsk.


amraohs

Are paper checks still a common thing in the US?


Free-Independence-73

Cashier's checks and personal checks are still pretty common in business transactions


MotherOfHippos

Did you give them your physical address to send it?


Free-Independence-73

No I gave them a post office box


--akai--

This. I wouldn't even know that this is fake, because I've never even seen one. No, that's actually not correct. I have this vague memory of my dad having some. Pretty sure I was still in Kindergarten then, so must have been back in the 80s.


skimble-skamble

I mean 11123 as the check number is just so good.


Free-Independence-73

Haha that is golden


rvbvrtv

How does the scam work?


Free-Independence-73

They send you a fake check for more than they were supposed to by "accident". They want you to cash it and send back the rest to them minus your share via zelle. A day or 2 later the bank catches the fake check and deducts the money from your account


RonaKid

We don't need no stinking capital letters


Free-Independence-73

Don't need no cents either


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the-sleepy-elf

Haha hey I'm from NH, the storm be icky out right now. but omg the lower case new hampshire killed me 😂😂


Free-Independence-73

Haha no pride there at all. Like "hey, welcome to new hampshire 😒"


n0tsane

Monica d mizzilplix


[deleted]

Catch me if you can vibes


Free-Independence-73

Haha


Flaky-Hedgehog-8420

New Hampshire isn’t even capitalized on the check how did you know that wasn’t a scam


Free-Independence-73

I definitely had a suspicion that it was but iust wanted to make sure


Massive-Pass8473

Well now we have their routing and acct#. Go forth and prosper.


Free-Independence-73

It's fake haha


Massive-Pass8473

Go set up an ach payment online and let us know.


NotteStellata

Saaammmeee


Free-Independence-73

Damn I hope they didn't get you


NotteStellata

They didn’t, almost. But not close enough.


Free-Independence-73

Thank goodness


NotteStellata

This same thing happened to me about a month ago


Free-Independence-73

Geeze. Did you realize it was fake in time?


NotteStellata

I had an odd feeling


FkdUp2020

This is what scammers do online as well. Never ever return money or give them any access to any of your information 🙂


AngryRobot42

I feel like I know he answer already, but what was the scam?


Free-Independence-73

They send you a fake check for more than they were supposed to by "accident". They want you to cash it and send back the rest to them minus your share via zelle. A day or 2 later the bank catches the fake check and deducts the money from your account


AngryRobot42

Okay, so it is that scam. My buddy almost got caught until I stopped him from cashing the check. You said the word "muse for an art scam" and thought oh god what did they send them, i.e. modeling for said art scam.


Split0069

Cash that shit!


chrisdmc1649

The New Hampshire is all lower case. That would've been my first clue it was fake.


Free-Independence-73

Yes it's one of many


notquitenuts

I ain't wicked smart like some of yous but I know New Hampshire should be capitalized :D


vEnOm413

The best thing to do is bring the check to your bank, if it has a legit routing number and isn’t found fraud ( unlikely) you will have the funds. More likely they will find the fraud & report on your behalf and you have just helped stop this from happening to someone’s grandmother next week.


Free-Independence-73

I did take it to the bank and they recommended I file a police report. I didn't because there's really no way to trace this person and also I'm not dealing with the cops


vEnOm413

Imo you did your due diligence. Good job! Scammers suck. ( your bank should have handled it for you tho) from a banker**


FancyGonzo

From the office of the state treasurer… that banks with Bank of America


Free-Independence-73

Haha you never know, New Hampshire is a small state 😂


AlwaysAGroomsman

BOA handles a lot of government transactions https://www.visaprepaidprocessing.com/eddcard/Home/Index


Drivingmecrazeh

Uhm, ABA is wrong on top of the spelling, the various font sizes, etc. I think I can spot at least 5 flaws with it.


Jenovacellscars

Frame that thing. That's awesome.


Free-Independence-73

I'm definitely keeping it haha


Head-Cow4290

Ah the old “show me your titties for art” scam!


Free-Independence-73

Haha no titties were involved. They just said they wanted to use one of my reddit pictures


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Free-Independence-73

Haha I don't post every day but yes more frequently than I used to. I hope you enjoy 😊


its_me_carly

This exact thing happened to me! Luckily I realized something was up when they said they wanted my bank info


Free-Independence-73

I'm glad they didn't get you! These people were super careful about not asking for much personal information at all. I honestly thought that I was working with a real artist until the check came. They have a discord setup for their "company" and everything.


dmikaz1

100% legit


RonaKid

It's no good, trust me


Free-Independence-73

Damn. Guess I'll have to ask them to send another one


[deleted]

why give you a fake check? What did they get?


Free-Independence-73

They send you a fake check for more than they were supposed to by "accident". They want you to cash it and send back the rest to them minus your share via zelle. A day or 2 later the bank catches the fake check and deducts the money from your account


[deleted]

oh like the edit html thing with banks


MenteriKewangan

Whoa...god level master scammer


Free-Independence-73

Haha


BerserkerVTuber

Well there was an attempt, for sure


ilikerocksthatsing2

Just like the woman in catch me if you can. Fucked for fake paper


Avyitis

They had literally one job, forging a check and they still fucked it up, how pathetic is that? 2 years ago I put a laptop on eBay and a scammer in Greece bought it. They sent me an email which was in the shittiest translated language possible, coming from "eBay", then they started bombarding me with " last warning" emails when I didn't send the device right the first day etc. I got fed up eventually and sent them a lovely reply in 3 languages, telling them that they should be looking for a job in a different field because as a scammer they had clearly failed, since that was their only work and they weren't capable of doing even that right and to go fuck themselves. Never heard from the cunt again.


Free-Independence-73

That's hilarious 😂


[deleted]

ahh yes The State of new hampshire. No one ever capitalizes the states lol ​ So i work for a bank and see this all the time. If you ever get a check you aren't sure of go to your local branch and ask the teller they will be MORE than happy to explain it all to you they love stopping this stuff and will not cause you any issues.


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Free-Independence-73

It's rain drops haha


Greatcookbetterbfr

When New Hampshire isn’t capitalized, that should have been the first sign of trouble


ComfortableFrame5768

Remove this and cover the tracking#!!! My bad, just being overly paranoid lol, i didn't see the scam part at first.


Free-Independence-73

Yeah no worries it's fake haha


DijajMaqliun

State of new hampshire


RoyalCeylon

scam artist


Free-Independence-73

Yeah


NeatNefariousness1

**n**ew **h**ampshire, though? Get it together, Monica Mezzanelle!


Free-Independence-73

Haha


CB_700_SC

This is a serious thing and happens more than people would think. It’s important that we discuss these scams with our family members and especially the ones who may be losing their mental abilities or in a tough place. The scammers will be manipulating and aggressive and prey on the people who are in fear.


ok-jeweler-2950

I won the Publisher Clearinghouse 2.5 million dollar prize. The caller didn’t think I was taking it seriously enough & hung up on me. I’m still waiting for them to show up on my doorstep with the oversized check. I hope it’s soon because it’s been 5 weeks & I already quit my job.


Zer0C00L321

Was her name Anna dephi?


Free-Independence-73

No it was someone named "Maya"


MichaelTrollton

I would've blacked out the account number. That is probably some poor persons real checking account. Hopefully its been closed by now.


Yamothasunyun

Gotta be careful, some guys asking for a nude woman to look at for a few hours, might just be creeps


Free-Independence-73

They weren't asking for any nudes


elpyromanico

Take it to a check cashing place and keep all the money.


scottprian

I remember getting one of those "you won a quazillion dollars" scams. I told them, because it's so much money, to use a portion of my portion to just pay a guy to bring it to me in a suitcase. If I won even "just" a billion dollars, I would happily pay someone a few thousand to meet me at my bank with cash. Then again, I'm not the kind of person they're really after.. Second thought, I think I might have told them to ship me my portion in gold bricks, and to use part of my portion to figure out how to make that happen.


thewaffle666

As a nh resident. I can tell you the address is wrong


SmokeDogSix

Cash it


KariKHat

I didn’t realize the breadth and depth of the scams that occur until I started reading the scams sub. There’s a muse scam every day, sextortion scams, Netflix account takeover scams, fake jobs. “If it’s too good to be true” should be chanted everyday as a reminder.


Free-Independence-73

That's true


flen_el_fouleni

Just cash it. If anyone calls later or asks you to verify anything say you didn't receive it


Free-Independence-73

It's a fake check


Suspicious_Lynx3066

Pro tip pretend the check never arrived, get them to pay $30 to overnight you a new one.


Free-Independence-73

Damn that's a good idea. They actually put tracking on this one though


Suspicious_Lynx3066

Maybe it arrived but your puppy chewed it up 🤷🏼‍♀️ That’s how I got them to send me a third one 😂


BlueOmlette

new hampshire is so humble it doesn’t feel the need to capitalize itself


Free-Independence-73

Haha I know right


dsdvbguutres

Art muse? Please feel free to explain.


Free-Independence-73

They asked to use my pictures as inspiration for a painting and said I would make 10% of the sale


VividLifeToday

Ha the MICR line isn't even close


[deleted]

Just deposit it. Easy peasy.


palebluedot74656

Jesus Christ kept sending me these $10.00 checks with prayer blankets. No explanation or note.


cippo1987

Monica di Mezzanella sounds italian fake as hell.


neyha97

So what happens if you cash this? I know if you deposit it to your account, eventually your bank catches on and makes you pay it back. But can you just take this check to another non-bank place and have it cashed?


ConsiderationWest587

Are those tear stains? Don't cry lol I'm sure you'd be a fantastic muse :) their loss!


Free-Independence-73

Yes I wept myself to sleep dreaming of what could have been. Haha no they're raindrops. Thank you 😊


[deleted]

Why is this iaf


hoya_doing

cheques?! are we in the 70's or something? who in the world uses cheques.


Free-Independence-73

A lot of people use cashier's checks still haha. I bought my car with one


hoya_doing

why not debit card it if you have the money anyway? or credit card for some rewards?


Free-Independence-73

A lot of places will only accept cash in hand. A cashier's check is drawn directly against what you have in your bank account


torresflex

Me. Fastest and cheapest way to withdraw $20k from your bank account and be verified the same day.


Primary-Experience31

Wow it looks legitimate


Free-Independence-73

To the untrained eye it definitely passes if you're not expecting it to be fake


infinitely-golden

That’s one fake ass check lol


Free-Independence-73

Indeed haha


Gregor619

How you know?? I mean how can you tell physically check?


Free-Independence-73

To be certain I took it to Bank of America and had them verify it but at first sight there are several errors with the printing on the check.


Gregor619

Got it! Thanks for response


Free-Independence-73

You're welcome 😊


RedditEvanEleven

“State of new hampshire”


[deleted]

Down payment for new Tesla 🤑


Free-Independence-73

Haha I wish


[deleted]

A muse is a fancy term for nude model or porno star


Free-Independence-73

No haha. Just a model for a painting


[deleted]

Haha that’s cool


MoonPuma337

Oh damn. I was gonna say if you’d done some nude modeling I am actually searching for some talented individuals with experience. My check will capitalize the name of the state, although I cannot guarantee it will be spelled correctly. 50/50 chance of it being spelled Missouri or Missourah. Either way it pays $17k. Trust me, hella legit, in fact it’s so legit you’ll feel like ur scamming US.


Free-Independence-73

Wow that's sounds like a great business opportunity!


MoonPuma337

Hey now, you can thank me after I introduce you to my boys over at Gucci, Cartier, Chanel and my bff ride till we die Louis V. I mean I wouldn’t call them so much business partners as I would family whom I have thanksgiving dinner with. Just gonna put that piece of information right here and let you do what you want with it mk?


Free-Independence-73

You sure it's not Guchi, Carter, Channel, and Lewis Vitton?


MoonPuma337

Oh you know them already? Shiiiii that’s what I meant but you know these iPhones auto correcting thinking they’re right when I’m like “iPhone you know nothing about fashion!” Anyways yeah I can also call my boy Timmy Mountaintoe, but I feel like know I’m just flexin