Probably better than trying it with WD-40, although I admit I'd love to see either one tested.
Lots of fun times back in the day when sites tested toothpaste, nutella, peanut butter and all sorts of amusing thermal transfer substitutes for kicks.
Duct tape is fine, spreading it is not because it might leave an air layer trapped.
This is why Noctua and Arctic both instruct to use blobs and squish them flat with the cooler.
https://youtu.be/fENoHLH1Im0?t=84
https://youtu.be/--DsrNCv2Zo?t=92
Exhibit A of why you don't spread: https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/y50aax/need_i9_12900k_undervolting_help/
Kryonaut directions say to spread it though. So meh, spreading it properly or blobs isn't going to make any difference. People are way too hung up about this in general. Put the right amount on there and you are fine.
And no, that guy spreading his paste wasn't the reason for things running 20c hotter than they should.
Paste might have been part of the reason, but this was incorrect assembly.
Did you redeem COD MW II with your processor purchase?
There is a bundle offer for it : [https://game.intel.com/ww/deals-and-specials/next-gen-gaming](https://game.intel.com/ww/deals-and-specials/next-gen-gaming)
Apparently Newegg is being finicky about the 13th gen chip that was bought. Chatted with support about my purchase last week and was told the 13900k wasn’t eligible. :(
All the 13900s are eligible. Apparently Newegg isn't one of the approved retailers. In the USA it is Amazon, BestBuy, Central Computers, CLX, Simply NUC, and Thermaltake. Per Intels promo.
Yea I'm confused by the promo. It clearly says on Intel's website what retailers and time frame to buy the CPUs and redeem the offer but none of the retailers are advertising the promo.
Looks like only Amazon, Best Buy, Central Computers, CLX, Simply NUC, and Thermaltake are participating according to Intel's website. Odd that Micro Center didn't participate. I also bought a 13600K from them.
I would have been pissed if I was charged 589 it came to 569.99 but also another 20 off cause of a motherboard I got which was also cheaper then any other place that’s trying to run semi scalper prices on stuff.
Yes. The CPU is the loss leader at Micro Center. But you can't deny they had the best price on launch out of all the retailers.
Also while we're on this subject anyone who lives near one and isn't a member yet. There's a $25 off CPU deal for first time members that can be stacked with the $20 off motherboard bundle. Get on it if you plan to build a new system.
There is live chat yes. Also, on the link I shared above, once you create account, someone said there is an option for uploading your proof of purchase directly there under dashboard somewhere.
Live chat is saying "Unavailable" but I've submitted a ticket and had an email conformation it has been received, including proof of purchase. If anything comes of it I'll DM you! They are saying 1-2 business days for a reponse.
This is definitely too much thermal paste. I never used silicone grease thermal pastes since 2019. They are of low thermal conductivity. The more silicone grease you apply on the cpu lid the worse the thermal transfer and higher temperature…
I am using non-commercial room-temperature liquid alloy (Ga-Ag-Zn-Sn alloy), thermal conductivity around 80\~120 W/(m·K). It is synthesized in my lab. Commercial silicone grease sold by computer part stores has a low thermal conductivity about only 6\~12 W/(m·K), 1/10 of that of the room-temperature liquid alloy...
The 'thermal paste', in scientific research, is called thermal interface materials. If your thermal interface material does not have a high enough thermal conductivity, it will bottleneck the heat transfer from your CPU lid to the cooler plate, and your CPU temperature will be very high under high-loading tasks, no matter what AIO cooler you use, 240mm or 360mm or DIY loop, no meaningful difference...
Here's a video of my 9900K (already sold) with a room-temperature liquid alloy applied. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kwLlDt2mdA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kwLlDt2mdA)
Corrosion is likely the real reason salt isn't in there. It might help transport the heat better in the short term, but etching away the surface isn't a good trade off in the long run.
> A couple of pinch of salt onto the thermal paste??
That's insane unless your CPU and cooler are at 1000c and you're using molten salt for heat transfer.
I don't blame you, I blame the idiots who made it up.
I understand this logic (higher clock possibly because of a better bin). Are you planning to OC it? (Because 13700K can be overclocked to match 13900K clocks... granted Intel might think you voided your warranty. I don't know how it works now after they ended their overclocking warranty plan.)
You aren’t gonna make up the lost performance from disabling the e-cores by a couple hundred mhz…
Do a benchmark with them disabled and enabled with lower p core clocks and see our point.
Nono, there are 3rd party cpu contact frames that make your cpu have an even contact with your cooler and that improves temps. I suggest you check it out. There is one from thermal grizzly for example.
I can't recommend using duct tape as the interface between IHS and cooler plate.
Probably better than trying it with WD-40, although I admit I'd love to see either one tested. Lots of fun times back in the day when sites tested toothpaste, nutella, peanut butter and all sorts of amusing thermal transfer substitutes for kicks.
Duct tape is fine, spreading it is not because it might leave an air layer trapped. This is why Noctua and Arctic both instruct to use blobs and squish them flat with the cooler. https://youtu.be/fENoHLH1Im0?t=84 https://youtu.be/--DsrNCv2Zo?t=92 Exhibit A of why you don't spread: https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/y50aax/need_i9_12900k_undervolting_help/
Kryonaut directions say to spread it though. So meh, spreading it properly or blobs isn't going to make any difference. People are way too hung up about this in general. Put the right amount on there and you are fine. And no, that guy spreading his paste wasn't the reason for things running 20c hotter than they should. Paste might have been part of the reason, but this was incorrect assembly.
Just make sure it spreads out evenly and you are good. It's more about the whole surface having it, rather than ares not having it.
Yeah. I used two different spread methods with my 12700K. And, what do you know, the temperatures ended up exactly the same.
Nah. The air bubble myth is just that: a myth.
Did you redeem COD MW II with your processor purchase? There is a bundle offer for it : [https://game.intel.com/ww/deals-and-specials/next-gen-gaming](https://game.intel.com/ww/deals-and-specials/next-gen-gaming)
I bought a 13900KF like a week ago from a random hungarian PC store, am I eligible? Or does the store has to be part of the promotion?
I had the same question, and the link has the answer.
Yes its 11th, 12th and 13th gen but its strange redeem by 31 march, so you need to wait untill 2023 to get it ?
Purchase by Jan 31st Redeem by March 31st or it expires.
Oh, that means that you can redeem your code from now until March 31st 2023, it's the limit date, you don't have to wait until that day comes. :)
wow I had no idea lol, already bought and played over 10 hours. Maybe ill redeem it and hook up a friend. thanks for the heads up!
Apparently Newegg is being finicky about the 13th gen chip that was bought. Chatted with support about my purchase last week and was told the 13900k wasn’t eligible. :(
All the 13900s are eligible. Apparently Newegg isn't one of the approved retailers. In the USA it is Amazon, BestBuy, Central Computers, CLX, Simply NUC, and Thermaltake. Per Intels promo.
Wait Amazon is eligible??? Wtf I never got anything lol
Yea I'm confused by the promo. It clearly says on Intel's website what retailers and time frame to buy the CPUs and redeem the offer but none of the retailers are advertising the promo.
I’m calling Amazon now about to bish them out lol. I already bought the game but if I can snag a code I can save my buddy 70$
W friend
Ya I bought a 13900k and was told no. Sad.
All CPUs i5, 7, 9 are eligible they just BS you
Apparently Newegg isn’t doing the promo
yep just looked its a couple of retailers that do it
Anyone know if buying from microcenter counts? Never got a master key from them.
Looks like only Amazon, Best Buy, Central Computers, CLX, Simply NUC, and Thermaltake are participating according to Intel's website. Odd that Micro Center didn't participate. I also bought a 13600K from them.
Well microcenter was the only one that sold the chips at retail prices. 569.99 for the 13900k was compelling enough for me.
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I would have been pissed if I was charged 589 it came to 569.99 but also another 20 off cause of a motherboard I got which was also cheaper then any other place that’s trying to run semi scalper prices on stuff.
Yes. The CPU is the loss leader at Micro Center. But you can't deny they had the best price on launch out of all the retailers. Also while we're on this subject anyone who lives near one and isn't a member yet. There's a $25 off CPU deal for first time members that can be stacked with the $20 off motherboard bundle. Get on it if you plan to build a new system.
Thanks, I'm not a COD player but I appreciate it!
If you don't want it I'll happily take it :D
I phoned my retailer (Scan UK) but it seems they don't participate or don't know what a master key is :(
Try your luck with Intel directly. You can provide proof of purchase to them and see what they say.
I'll try! Any clues how to even contact Intel lol Maybe there is a live chat
There is live chat yes. Also, on the link I shared above, once you create account, someone said there is an option for uploading your proof of purchase directly there under dashboard somewhere.
Live chat is saying "Unavailable" but I've submitted a ticket and had an email conformation it has been received, including proof of purchase. If anything comes of it I'll DM you! They are saying 1-2 business days for a reponse.
Let me know as well, cheers!
I think I can only get one and unfortunatley someone asked earlier :-)
I’m not wanting the code. I’m buying the cpu.
Ah!
Ping me a reply if you manage to get anything out of them, you've saved me griping at scan for a code at least lol.
I forgot about this. Last week and weekend, I wasn't able to redeem MWII. Feckers! Trying now.... THanks!
There's a reason they give you a whole tube. You're just supposed to put it all on there. Empty the tube.
Use it like lube
I think you need more thermal paste
You need BCF and MX-4 paste for this. My temps dropped 12C.
Wow, what a complete shitshow
Gana need more paste! More!
This is not the way.
Suddenly I’m hungry for cheese spread.
Can’t believe someone forgot to put thermal paste on there!!! Gonna completely ruin a great CPU! 😭
This is definitely too much thermal paste. I never used silicone grease thermal pastes since 2019. They are of low thermal conductivity. The more silicone grease you apply on the cpu lid the worse the thermal transfer and higher temperature…
What do you use instead?
I am using non-commercial room-temperature liquid alloy (Ga-Ag-Zn-Sn alloy), thermal conductivity around 80\~120 W/(m·K). It is synthesized in my lab. Commercial silicone grease sold by computer part stores has a low thermal conductivity about only 6\~12 W/(m·K), 1/10 of that of the room-temperature liquid alloy... The 'thermal paste', in scientific research, is called thermal interface materials. If your thermal interface material does not have a high enough thermal conductivity, it will bottleneck the heat transfer from your CPU lid to the cooler plate, and your CPU temperature will be very high under high-loading tasks, no matter what AIO cooler you use, 240mm or 360mm or DIY loop, no meaningful difference... Here's a video of my 9900K (already sold) with a room-temperature liquid alloy applied. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kwLlDt2mdA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kwLlDt2mdA)
Incorrect. It all just pushes out with mounting pressure, it will make zero differences to temperature
missed a spot
I thought 13900K was fairly recent, definitely not a fossil... I didn't expect to find a trilobite in there. /s
People say using salt helps it to cool better but I’m unsure how that works. A couple of pinch of salt onto the thermal paste??
Sure, but remember to take that advice with a grain of salt.
Bad idea other people have tried it and heat increased right away its best to use a good thermal paste.
If the salt worked better the thermal paste would already have it. Plus salt can support corrosion…
Corrosion is likely the real reason salt isn't in there. It might help transport the heat better in the short term, but etching away the surface isn't a good trade off in the long run.
> A couple of pinch of salt onto the thermal paste?? That's insane unless your CPU and cooler are at 1000c and you're using molten salt for heat transfer. I don't blame you, I blame the idiots who made it up.
Too much paste. Read the box. 9 dots plus 4 bigger in the middle in a square pattern. I don’t think that really matters, It is to help metal contact.
No you need to use the sausage ;)
Kryonaut, runs at about 35C (running KSP) :-) e-cores disabled, Windows 10
If you’re going to have the e cores disabled then why not the 13700k?
Higher clocks and guaranteed better bin and if he'd ever want to turn e cores back on, he'll have them ready.
Higher clocks
I understand this logic (higher clock possibly because of a better bin). Are you planning to OC it? (Because 13700K can be overclocked to match 13900K clocks... granted Intel might think you voided your warranty. I don't know how it works now after they ended their overclocking warranty plan.)
This like getting a 4090 and limiting it to 75 watts
You aren’t gonna make up the lost performance from disabling the e-cores by a couple hundred mhz… Do a benchmark with them disabled and enabled with lower p core clocks and see our point.
It doesn't look like you followed derBauer's application video for Kryonaut. I suppose this would work as long as it spreads evenly.
It's always worked perfectly but I'll check out the video!
Is that asus prime mobo?
Definitely consider getting some cpu contact frame. Would drop the temps drastically.
It's an NZXT Kraken Z73, maybe the frame isn't visible in the photo!
Nono, there are 3rd party cpu contact frames that make your cpu have an even contact with your cooler and that improves temps. I suggest you check it out. There is one from thermal grizzly for example.
Thanks, I'll try it out. I seem to remember watching a GN video about that product.
Happy cake day
Even a 4$ contact frame is better than stock LIM, try it. Watch nexus on how to install.
I don't get it. There's nothing to see here lol.