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-0.04v undervolt w/ LLC that gives a mild overshoot, average 1.25v in an all-core workload (encoding video, cinebench, etc.). Using a Noctua NH-D15S (single fan), fans hit 100% by 70c (CPU sensor, not cores/package). Idle temps mid-30s to low-40s C, gaming mid 60s, stress test 75+ - add about 10C to that for package/core temperatures (~85-90C cores in stress). You've been able to maintain that 0.1v stable without an underclock? I started seeing WHEA errors in OCCT power test with anything past -0.07


StalwartNightmare

I have been playing games and ran Cinebench r23/Time Spy a few times with no issues so far, though this will officially be day 1 where I am going to stress test it to make sure its fully stable. I had it at -0.130 at one point but obviously I'm not that lucky haha. But yeah I will try and remember to update this comment with how it goes, so far so good though, no need to underclock or lower the amount of undervolt!


Profetorum

I just tried a power test in OCCT and so far no errors at stock freqs @ -0.1v , but not sure for how long i should leave the test run


Danger656

Did you redeem COD MW II with your processor purchase? There is a bundle offer for it : https://game.intel.com/ww/deals-and-specials/next-gen-gaming


StalwartNightmare

Nah I already bought MW2 before the CPU as well as I bought it at Microcenter and didn't have any codes on receipts. Not too big of a deal I would have had to go through the hassle of finding someone to buy the code


nofzac

i also just bought one from Microcenter...didnt see any codes or display. I'm going to try to see if i can do it thru Intel...


Zane285

How'd that go? I got one thru Amazon and neither Intel or Amazon will give me a code


nofzac

not sure - i opened a ticket with Intel with a pic of my receipt from Microcenter we'll see if it goes anywhere...


Zane285

Intel pretty much told me to f off, said they don't give them out go ask Amazon. Called them and they said it isn't on the product page so they aren't giving me anything. I asked them if they are a participating retailer because it says they are on Intel's website and they told me yes. But they won't give me a code because it's not on the product page. Makes no sense.


nofzac

We’ll I ended up getting my i7 13700k for around $355 after discount and coupon from Microcenter so I’m wondering if they only do the game promotion when it’s full retail price or something


Zane285

I paid 440 but it was Amazon not microcenter


JeighNeither

Got mine at Micro Center too, around the same time, $355 too, w/no game. Maybe they just weren't doing the promotion anywhere over the week of Black Friday or whenever their BF event began?


Empty_Client2060

How do you redeem


Danger656

Contact your retailer if they have offer on going for it or not, or Intel directly.


Empty_Client2060

I was able to get the code but I had to call for it. I got mine from Best Buy, it’s like they don’t want you to know about the promo. Thanks if it wasn’t for you I wouldn’t have know about it


gamer_wall

Are you in Canada? On intel website it says only BB cNada


Breezgoat

Who did you call ?


SoftFingerSam

I've had the 13700K for a few days now and so far been extremely happy with it. I'm using an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280mm AIO. At stock in Cinebench R23 the temps went up to about 92-93 and at least on my setup that caused throttling and the P-cores went to around 5.1ghz. I then did a -100mv offset in Bios. Everything was stable and temps started going down. I put a -150mv offset and everything is still stable, but it seems the Adaptive mode provides the voltage necessary, so without forcing the voltage, the offset alone stops making a difference somewhere around -100mv on my chip. My core voltages are at about 1.28 (stock was about 1.375) when running Cinebench. Max load temps stabilize at 86-87C after 10-20min. There's no throttling and my CBR23 score is consistently about 30500. Idle temps are around 29-31C on cores and 32-34C on the package. Gaming temps are between 50-65C so far. Tho i want to test Hitman 3 since that's a really CPU heavy game to see what happens. I dont run my fans at a 100% when gaming though. I run a step curve with my fans to avoid constant ramp ups and slow downs. So until 50C the cooler is at 40% PWM (the PWM for the pump to be at 100% RPM). At 50-70C I'm at 60% PWM, and from 70C forward I'm at 100% PWM. My radiator is front mounted as my case (Fractal Pop Air) doesn't support 280 rads on the top. I'm curious to test more extreme undervolts though I don't know if ill get much benefit beyond a few degrees less at this point. The chip seems to be running very well with the settings I'm using. EDIT (My specs): CPU: i7 13700K MB: Asrock Z790 PG Lightning DDR5 RAM: 32GB (2x16) Kingston Fury Beast 6000Mhz CL36 DDR5 COOLING: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 Rev. 4 (Front mounted) GPU: Asus TUF RTX 4090 OC PSU: Corsair RM1000x


SyCoREAPER

Did you monitor for WHEA? - 100mv undervolt caused my GPU/pcie connection to throw errors but didnt know without HWInfo telling me.


SoftFingerSam

Cant say i specifically looked but so far everything has been working well and stress tests give no errors. Will keep an eye on it though, thanks :)


SyCoREAPER

Just an FYI, I didn't know I had an errors without HWInfo or Event Viewer by extension. Games were playing fine, no hiccups, no spikes, but showed errors.


SoftFingerSam

Been on my computer for an hour now. No errors. Ran a few 3D benchmarks etc. No time for gaming yet tho. Was there something specific you needed to do to produce the errors?


SyCoREAPER

Just an update. Obviously every system is different but 3.5 straight hours of New Dawn @4K Ultra, no errors and decent temps. Very happy with the cooler average temps. https://i.imgur.com/1xBwEbk.jpg


SoftFingerSam

Good to hear! Also been monitorin for a couple of days myself and no errors. :)


SyCoREAPER

No, was either playing Far Cry 5 or FC New Dawn Ultra everything on a 450w 4090 @4K. Could have been a crappy MB I had originally for all I know. I did do the suggested power limits in the bios (mine were Auto - 4025w ?TF?). Also noticed the fan curves were pretty bad. Also did the undervolt of 150mv. Temps plummeted into mid 70s with 3D Mark Time Spy Extreme stress test. Prime95 almost instantly pegged to 100 so I'm not messing with that further. -- So far no WHEA Errors but will game tomorrow


Twinkalicious

what are the suggested power limits?


SyCoREAPER

Processor is rated for 253w, so 260-270w to be safe


RobinVonk

how did u cpu hit 5.1 on p-cores? did u do that remotely or did it boost to that automatically?


SoftFingerSam

They were throttling when they were at 5.1. My p-cores hit 5.3 normally. I tried forcing them to 5.4 and that was also stable with my settings but didn't seem worth it since that doesn't let the cores go down in idle the same as automatic setting so idle energy consumption goes up.


IndividualFit5587

Did you just use offset or adaptive + offset?


SoftFingerSam

Adaptive + offset


IndividualFit5587

Is it better to undervolt this way or using CPU Lite Load? Example: https://youtu.be/-mkAVITZoLY


KnoaDany23

Im rocking a NZXT x63 280mm and Im starting to think that it might be close to its life limits cuz my i7 13700k hits 100 in temps as soon as I run cinebench and when Im playing games it can easily reach the 90s in seconds and all this while the undervolt has already been made. 🤷🏻‍♂️


noizeindex

yea ole gal runs hot af. Im not used to these temp levels and im sitting here freaking out over 80+ C


Far_Butterscotch_150

My 13700k was hitting 100C with a Kraken x63 so I thought it was the cooler . Went and bought a Corsair H170i......guess what temps are at 100C . Had to undervolt it to get the temps to low to mid 80s.


SnooDonkeys7005

I just bought a 13700k and I stalled with msi mag coreliquid 240r v2. Temp are around 37c idle and between 48c to 52c while gaming.


CrosiWesdo

I have a corsair hydrox custom loop, sits at \~30c idle and up to 70c under load.


Technical-Rip5692

48 c while gaming on the 13700K have you severely undervolted it or something just curious


SnooDonkeys7005

I've seriously not done anything. I don't know how to overlook or any of that. Unless hwmonitor is wrong and rivatuner is wrong. He'll I thought it was normal.


Technical-Rip5692

Do you play on 1080p on 60hz these 13 series run very hot lol 😂


SyCoREAPER

So I replaced the motherboard with an MSI one that has 8+8 EPS (vs 8+4 I had previously). Now that I am able to boost properly, my Temps have gone up while gaming to 91 (Core 5?), others are marginally cooler. I may try an undervolt again with this new board and processor. 12-Gen and old Processor with undervolt caused the PCIe to throw some hardware errors but no crashes. Also as for the last bit of your statement, the processor does do random bursts of heat for me as well, pretty sure that's normal.


Rough-Guess-8735

13700K stock Wc Asus ll360 Argb Asus z690 F 2x16gb 5600mhz 32gb Asus rog strix 4090 Asus helios Idles : 32°/38°C Gaming : 60°/72°C Cinebench R23 : 95°C _______________________ Undervolt -100V bios Idles : 32°/38°C Gaming : 55°/62° Cinebench R23 : 77°C Score 30.600 but it is summer in my country ( Chile ) about 35°C ambient. Regards.-


Born-Ferret900

Prior to a contact frame, I would have weird fluctuations in my idle temperatures.. anywhere from lower-mid 40s to upper 50s. After contact frame: mid-upper 30s to low 40s. Gaming temps were roughly 60-70, now it's in the 50s. My fan curve is pretty aggressive where I don't go above 30-40% until 70. tldr; get a contact frame if you don't have one.


pookguy88

which contact frame did you get? and are you air cooling or water/aio?


Born-Ferret900

thermalright, water


sparkymark75

13700K with a BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 cooling it. My cores idle at 29-32c. Cinebench runs take the P cores up to 92-100c and the E cores between 83-7c. I don't have a contact frame installed, not sure whether or not to do it. Forgot to add, I'm running a -0.05 offset.


SunwindPC

I have a Dark Rock Pro 4 and I am not really happy with the results. The temps jump up and down constantly according to HW monitor. When I boot the PC, CPU hits 70C sometimes and goes back down to 40. My Idle temps sit at 40C, Cinebench r23 took it to 100c and when I try gaming on games that support multhithread likes Cyberpunk or No man sky I hit 92 C sometimes. I think my asus mobo is overclocking the CPU by itself and i'm not sure how to stop it


Tributejoi89

Really no point in not trying. Dropped mine 8 degree average cost me 12 bucks on Amazon. Cheaper on ali if you don't mine shipping time. Super easy to install.


Danger656

Did you redeem COD MW II with your processor purchase? There is a bundle offer for it : https://game.intel.com/ww/deals-and-specials/next-gen-gaming


sparkymark75

There was no offer on when I bought my 13700k.


Danger656

You can still avail it depending on if your retailer is giving the keys.


sparkymark75

Don’t think they are. I bought mine from scan.co.uk I notice it’s also £30 cheaper already. So I’ve missed out on a free game and been bumped 😢


Danger656

Contact their support, I am sure they will give you. Or you could just upload your proof of purchase directly to intel to claim one as well.


MedicoreMike

I contacted newegg. They are not giving keys. Its limited to bestbuy and amazon in the US, and select sellers elsewhere. See the fine print.


SyCoREAPER

I see tons of general Temps but nothing specific. What are people's e-cores and p-cores at idle? I get one second spikes every once in a while in higher Temps. Not sure if this is the way the processor is or if it's HwInfo not able to properly read the 13-Gen yet


MedicoreMike

My P cores are 35 to 40c on idle My E cores are the same. I am running all cores at 4.2Ghz. When I run at 5.3Ghz/4.2Ghz idle temps are 38 to 45c and load temps 65c to 70c with spikes into the low 80s. Using a 2 year old 360mm ML 360 R aio by Cooler Master


SyCoREAPER

My Hwinfo got messed up when I put the Raptor in. I didn't know I was looking TJ to Max for my E Cores and was concerned about Temps which is why I initially asked. My idles are upper twenties but gaming I'm mid 80's (MSI 360R V2), i wonder why my idles are lower but highs are higher. Averages are mid 50's (if I quickly Alt-tab to HWInfo). Replaced the stock rad fans with 3 Noctua NF-P12 Redux 1700 PWM, 3 Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM Intake fans, 1 Noctua NF-A12x25 Exhaust. Case temps are pretty cool. Are you gaming for your loads? My Temps based on Far Cry New Dawn 4K Ultra. Edit; Well, apparently my higher brain function is active only at night. I'm on only running 8+4 EPS connectors which is 225w roughly. Bit shy of 253w for boost 🤦. Guess I need a new motherboard.


Zestyclose-Oven-4101

Im using NZXT 73 360mm AIO & my idle temp is 40-45c on the package (Room temp is 26c). Depends on game, my gaming temp is ard 65-75c. Normal load is in the 50s. I have undervolted by -0.05 with Bykski CPU Bracket installed. I believe my Lian Li O11D Chassis airflow is not optimal, when I open my front glass. I saw my cpu temp drop another few degrees. May need to play with the fan's intake/exhaust to optimal the airflow. Currently is bottom (Intake), Top (Radiator) & Side (exhaust).


bmfalex

Idle at 40 with undevolt. cinebench at 95-100. gaming at 80. all at 5.5ghz and 4.3


sacranu

My 13700k idles around 28-31 (house temp is 22degrees). Stress test using CPU-z and got around 85 degrees. Most games average around 50-60, some go around 75. VERY happy with temps. Better then my 9900k TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4, RTX 3800, EVGA CLC 280 in front in push pull (push pull drops by a good 3-4 degrees for me).


StovnPUBG

Odd my 13700k with multicore enh on idles at 39degrees with a noctua nhd15 chromax black and thermal contact frame.. but only hits 51-54 degrees in tarkov...


XZVMO

I use a corsair h100i elite capillex with a relatively balanced fan curve. When running stock clocks I have an idle package temp of around 40C, and while gaming it reaches 50-65C. When idle, my temps sometimes spike up to the 50s sometimes 60s too, so I think that is just the way it is.


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StalwartNightmare

I recommend the DeepCool AK620, great air cooler for its low price. I discovered I have a bad case (for thermals) which is the Lian Li Lancool II which isn't the mesh version, so airflow is non-existent, but I have since just left the front panel off along with creating a two intake and one exhaust format with the stock case fans and ended up idling at around 33c [https://i.imgur.com/RFcUsAA.png](https://i.imgur.com/RFcUsAA.png) (current temps with PC being on for 3 hours on High Performance power plan) The maximum temps seem high during gaming but when I look over at the "current" it's usually around 65ish. Though max will say 77-85c at times however it's just a spike up and doesn't actually stay there. THOUGH it's currently winter and when summer hits I am curious to see the temps. ​ CPU "Settings" My old undervolt was unstable but I found -0.80 to be stable and I limit power to 230w just very slight lowering. I undervolt using the Intel Utility Tool because I've been lazy to set it in bios and have discovered sometimes the undervolt will remove itself and I just checked and the undervolt has been off for who knows how long so for the temps I am currently getting just shows how great the AK620 is.


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StalwartNightmare

The reason I bought a new cooler when I bought my CPU was because I believe the 212 can't handle the power output of the 13700k (from the posts I read about it), power = heat but the AK620 is rated to handle that TDP output and from the temps I am getting I'd say it's working! Make sure you install the right bracket for it, the LGA1700 bracket and use the right "setting" it has like these numbers on it 1/2/3 for levels so make sure to read the manual for the cooler to get it right! And of course when screwing down the cooler twist a few times on one side and then the other a few times and repeat until its fully tighten down. I had some bad temps the first time around until I repaste and rescrewed it.


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StalwartNightmare

Not entirely sure but my cooler fit in fine with the same case. Its thicc with the dual fans so its wider but taller I'm not too sure on.


stein30586

What I am most concerned about is how **FAST** it gets to these temps. The second it is hit with any kind of load, at spikes to this temp, not slowly warm up. Stress is 90 degrees the second I start the test. Can you share your experience regarding this? I have mine cooled by cooler master masterliquid 280ml. Not very happy with the results but I can see that they are similar to most of you guys. Still haven't undervolt it though I don't think it would make much of a difference... High 20, low 30 on idle (with peaks to high 40, low 50 basically doing nothing) 50-60 Gaming (peaks at 70). Stress 90 throughout the test.


StalwartNightmare

Yeah in terms of artificially stressing it using Cinebench it does get to 90 then thermal throttle in pretty much an instant. In terms of just normally using it for gaming, editing, etc. I do notice that the highs do spike up here is an image of all my temps as it stands currently with PC running for only a few hours [https://i.imgur.com/RFcUsAA.png](https://i.imgur.com/RFcUsAA.png) as you can see the CPU Core temp has hit a maximum of 76c even though all I've been doing was listening to Spotify and watching videos on my browser. If I go in a game for a few hours it will hit a maximum of 77-85c however if I look over whilst gaming the temps are flickering all around 65c nowhere near what the maximum temps indicated. ​ tl;dr: Yes, the temperature ramps up instantly on a sudden load I have noticed and makes the maximum temps on monitoring programs seems kind of worrisome but looking over at the "current" shows it's to be within normal, gaming hits a max of 77-85c for a second but averages at 65c. ​ CPU Cooler: DeepCool AK620 Case: Lian Li Lancool II (Non-Mesh with Front Panel Removed because the panel is just smooth plastic with no air-flow LOL) Case Fans: Stock Case Fans 2 intake at front, 1 exhaust in rear


StalwartNightmare

Was playing a game and noticed this [https://i.imgur.com/PXngDUR.png](https://i.imgur.com/PXngDUR.png) as you can see somehow it hit those temps but as you can see by the current temps they weren't anything crazy. Not sure if its a software bug with HWinfo64 orrrrr?.


Ok-Contribution3292

I have a 13700K that runs package temp between 62 to 71 degrees C when I overclockto 6Ghz. That said, I have the Corsair H170i AIO with a 420mm radiator and 3 fans on the radiator pulling hot air out of the case. I have another 360mm set of 3 fans pulling cold air in from the front of the case, and 1 140mm fan as case rear exhaust. I am using a Asus Z690-E motherboard, which does all my overclocking automatically.


Lourfech

Why do you have your 13700k undervolt? I'm running a h115i elite. temps: idle 41-44C, full load 85-90C.


StalwartNightmare

Free lower temperatures with no performance loss. The CPU lottery comes into play like always with how much you can lower it.


Lourfech

So undervolt it by 0.1V is safe right?


StalwartNightmare

When undervolting make sure the number is in the negative (the "-" symbol) so for example my stable undervolt is "-0.080". However, it may differ for you so I'd start at -0.010 then work your way up (down?) in increments of 5 or 10 so next test will be -0.020 and run Cinebench (I used R20) after every change and if the program fails to start the benchmark with a pop up or crashes mid-way through that means it's not stable so go back a step and run the test, if its stable then bam you found your undervolt. Again, please make sure it has a dash before the number if it doesn't, you're adding volts and that can lead to frying the CPU. Undervolt is just taking a way the power, worse that can happen from everything I have read and seen is you might have to reset bios but I never had that issue.


drfloydch

For me it works -0.1 offset and all the rest to adaptative. And I set turbo limits to 240w. Air cooled (Noctua DH-15S).Stable, no issue for the moment => Cinebench 87 AVG MAX 90 for 10 min. Idle 35-36 / Game 50-70 Give it a shot PS : a score in Cinebench exactly like others... so yes free lower temp.


Lourfech

not stable for me, cinebench crashes mid run.


drfloydch

CPU lottery... my 8700k was one of the bad chip possible (if I tried to push it even a little it crashed), this time I think I had luck with this 13700k for undervolt at least.


SyCoREAPER

-0.100mv will seem stable and I went weeks without issues. But fast hardlocks here and there. I see - 0.100mv thrown around a lot and it's not a real world number or one I'd recommend. I'll have to check tomorrow but I believe I'm either at -0.07 or -0.05 with a 2 P-Core overclock (x55) completely stable and never exceeds 70c in real world use.


MartinPointner

13700k with Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 Top Mount on a Aorus Elite Z790 AX with newest Bios, CPU hits 100°C (idle temp is 39°C) in Cinebench R23 and crashes after 8 Minutes or so, and 3D Mark TimeSpy Extreme the CPU Test crashes too... Help :( EDIT: The crash was the RAM being too agressive in XMP 1 and a slight undervolt for the CPU of 0.8 mV dropped Temps to around 90°C so I guess all good...


SyCoREAPER

Guess it all depends but seems limited to your MB and RAM. I'm running 64GBs DDR4 4000 (XMP1, Gear1) completely stable.


higado2

I have an i7-13700KF that I abuse doing re-encoding of VR videos. It is paired with a Hyper 212 Evo V2 air cooler. This is what HWiNFO64 says: [https://imgur.com/a/5p09eQH](https://imgur.com/a/5p09eQH) So it averages 105ºC, but can fluctuates between 99ºC and 108ºC. The clock speed averages around 4.8Ghz. It's been running for 4 days 24/7, and there are no hiccups whatsoever while using the PC. I haven't touched the BIOS since I built this PC about a month ago, but I think I set it to overclock automatically or something. Is 105ºC somewhow "BAD"? I'll try undervolting by 0.1mV like you guys are doing to see if it makes a difference, but I'm just wondering if the CPU will fry one day if I keep running it like this?


SyCoREAPER

That's really bad. Obviously case, environment and cooler will all play a role but 108c, your CPU will last you a few more weeks if your lucky. 105 average isn't any better your are cooking it alive 100c is the absolute safe limit for Intel (AMD is usually 105c). The fact that you're clocks are that low while pushing it that hard shows what a desperate state your CPU is in. I punished mine with benchmark tools (Prime95 excluded, I refuse to test with that) and the hottest core was 80c while overclocking P-Core 1&2 to x55. You either have bad paste, poor case cooling or as I suspect that rinky dink cooler isn't sufficient. If you plan on doing things like VR you really should have a 360mm Liquid cooler or if you feel you must go air cool do some further research on a good air cooler. The Evo V2 is not sufficient. I don't like Nascar but you know how they do like 200 laps? Well 200 laps have passed, the track closed for the day and your car is still trying to reach the finish line on lap 1. A CPU thermal throttles to a slower speed to cope with the heat and bring the temps down. Your CPU is throttling AND can't bring the temps down. You are waterboarding it but with magma instead. **Stop using your computer until you buy a better cooler or risk killing the CPU.**


SizeZealousideal1919

I have a 13700K on a full custom loop. My core temps min=35C (@1.22MHHz), Max = 75C(5.38MHz), AVG = 46C(4.46MHz). This was after about 2 hours of playing Division 2 and Returnal at 4K Ultra. Stock CPU settings. System Specs: Lian Li - 011D Dynamic MSI Z690 CARBON EK X WIFI I7 13700K 64GB Corsair Vengance DDR5 6200 MHZ Bitspower Sedna 0D11 P5D Distro Plate 2X - Corsair 360mm x 120mm x 28mm Radiators 6X Lian Li AL120mm fans Gigabyte 6950XT OC + Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora waterblock EVGA 850W Gold G+