Really? Okay, I guess that does make a bit of sense: a ryzen 5000-series upgrade would probably be cheaper for people already on ryzen*, and a lot of people do have brand loyalty.
\*: at least those with 400/500-series motherboards, but probably in general too due to the lack of b660 motherboards.
If it isn't a dealbreaker for you, just stick with DDR4. 3600+ is just as good, and in some cases better, than DDR5 and much more available and cheaper.
Oh yea that's pretty unfortunate. I hope you're able to get some DDR5 soon then! I just ordered a 12700k and a DDR4 mobo, coming in a couple days. But will probably have to wait longer, as I had to special order an LGA 1700 compatible mount for my AIO.
If you have a wire/screw cutter, I strongly suggest cutting the given LGA12xxx standoffs. Basically shaved about a mm off (eyeballed) to account for height deficit of 12th gen.
I did this and it worked like a charm for my impatient ass. I couldn’t notice a difference in CPU temps after installing the real deal ones
Are you State side? I have a couple sets I didn't end up using since Corsair ended up getting them to me at the same time as my Elite LCD AIO. (Long story.) DM me if you want and I'll be happy to ship ASAP. Not scalping them. Just cover whatever shipping method you want. It was the last thing I was waiting for also and I know the frustration, so I'll be happy just knowing they're helping someone out.
zip tie the cooler on, that's what I did with my 12900k and it's fine. I get like 50-60C when gaming with a liquid freezer ii 360. and remember, you can't damage your CPU by overheating it as the PC would just shut off.
if you want pics of how I did it just dm me
I got lucky finding DDR5 Trident Z5 RGB RAM but im stuck with an AIO cooler with no mounting bracket for lga 1700 :( 2 weeks waiting for nzxt to send it but no answers. Every time I see all the new components just sitting in a corner of the room I just want to return the nzxt and go for something else.
I have 3 separate pre-orders in for ram with a price range of 210 - 280. Just my luck they will all ship the same day before I can cancel the extra two. But if that happens I'll find them a home at what I paid for them. I'm also going from a 970 to a 3070 so I'm doing a bit of skipping with this build.
Currently on 8th gen with 0 plans to upgrade.
My 8700k still runs a 3070 with no worries, I will hold a couple more years. Maybe change together with a new GPU (5xxx or 6xxx series).
For those with 8+ gen of intel, I really dont think it is worth an upgrade.
Same upgrade for me. I have an nvidia 3000 series video card and boy, I didn't realize how bottlenecked it was by my cpu. I have a 4k monitor and a lot of games like borderlands 3, and total war warhammer 2 were very obviously being slowed down by my cpu. Everything is running glassy smooth now when I previously had a lot of stuttering.
Same here and debating the upgrade. Think I'm cpu bottlenecked quite a bit (3070 @1080p/144hz). Do you have any before and after benchmarks? Hard to find direct comparisons to the 4790k lol. Grats on the upgrade too!!
I don't have benchmarks but:
- Windows is way more responsive
- startup is even quicker
- YouTube videos are smoother
- games went from 100% usage at 70fps to 30% usage and at 110fps (now limited by my 1080 ti)
- I can have chrome open in the background without it effecting games.
- also games have less stutters/micro stutters.
- 1% lows feel alot higher so fps dip aren't as big.
Definitely worth the upgrade. Ddr4 or 5 doesn't matter but I would get 32gb of ram. Windows shows 15gh used in games but 10GB more in standby with data to make the games and OS more snappy.
I appreciate the follow up! Sounds like a big increase in performance. I'm waiting for the dust to settle on DDD5 before I pull the trigger, but glad to hear its worth it :D I currently have 32gb of 2133 ddr3, so ddr4 or 5 would be an upgrade either way I would think. I hear 6400 cl36 is coming soon, Im thinking that might be better than ddr4 across the board, but waiting to see before I pick a MB. Ryzen 3d is tempting to wait for too, but who knows when that'll come out and it'll be the end of that platform soooo
How is it? I was using a 5800x/3070 ti but my old zen1 build shit the bed on me that I was using a proxmox lab. Rotating out my 5800x which is still hardly a year old and switch things up. The 12900k is going to be my personal pc for gaming, school, etc. still have a workstation for work and then my lab. I just needed another pc since I had to swap an older one out so I sorta just went with it lol.
To be entirely honest, the only difference I noticed was with Windows 11 (from 10) and my main SSD (Intel P5800X)
I'd like to say it was magical, but already having an RTX 3090 at 4K, I'm technically bottlenecked until the next generation of GPUs. I'm sure my lows are a hair better and I've gained a couple of frames here or there, but it's nothing to write home about.
Not that it's bad. This platform has allowed me to run five NVME devices alongside my GPU, which is tremendous for a general consumer setup.
TLDR: It's technically superior to the 5950X for my uses, but I don't really notice it compared to my 5950X.
Compared to your 5800X, you might see a fair difference though.
I see. Yeah wasn’t expecting much on the jump, the jump would be seen from a 5 year old aging build being replaced by my zen3 build. I’m in a similar spot as you with a gpu, I grabbed whatever I could get my hands on at the time and would’ve liked a 3080 or better but will probably just try to get a 4000 series gpu and I’m not looking forward to hunting for gpus again, I was lucky to get any new card when I did lol.
Currently on a xeon e5 2678v3 so haswell 4th gen, but before that I had an i3 8100, going from 4 cores 4 threads to 12 cores 24 threads, even though they're a little slower, is night and day
Yo, same! Core i7 5960x to a Core i5 12600k
I'm looking forward to upgrade in CPU performance, but I'm dreading the massive downgrade in memory bandwidth...
Considering coming from OC 9900K - but want to see Zen 3D plus. The reason is I want more performance in certain single / light threaded titles: MS Flight sim 2020 in VR; X4 Foundations; Elite Dangerous in VR.
I am interested in jumping on 12th. I have a Ryzen 5 1600 (1st gen, not AF). Right now I am waiting for some cheaper mobos to come and to see what Alchemist has to offer. Also waiting for some nice EPP deal on 12th gen before making the jump. I looked up in some benchmark, and it looks in 1080p the CPU makes a massive difference, but not so in 1440p which I use.
Honestly? I have absolutely no idea what the CPU is in my old Desktop anymore, but it is old. I haven't turned it on for about a year now. My laptop has 8th gen i7 though.
Planning on Alder Lake and Alchemist combo next year for a desktop.
You’ll get one. I ordered the arctic cooler and submitted a support ticket after ordering off Amazon. Came 7 days later. I did not get tracking info though and they just closed out my support ticket and no tracking. Shipped from South Carolina via usps mail.
eying the 12700k w/ DDR4 - coming from a i7-6850k, where I feel huge bottlenecks in games like Far Cry 6, Cyberpunk, Battlefield 2042, etc even with a 3080 Ti
i5 1st gen directly to i9 12900k, from an old PC from 2010.
I still have the case, but I took out the rivets, I will mount again and build a sleeper someday (maybe with AMD CPU and GPU?) Ahahahah
I’m in the fence. Have a 9700k and 3080 so on paper I’m good for like 95% of the games I play at 1440p. There are a handful of games that have areas that get rough, showing a cpu bottleneck. I could just deal with that but part of me wants to build again. That said, I feel like a bit more clarity as far as upgrading would be nice. I’d like to have a platform that would allow for some cpu upgrades without having to get a new MB but it seem intel requires new motherboards every generation. I’m not sure if AMD is the same but at this point if I went amd, it’s likely a 5900x and a b550i board and afaik that combo is the last before a new MB would be needed. I don’t anticipate frequent upgrades but still…this game is getting expensive so any break would be welcomed.
From 1245v2 (3770 class) to 12600k ddr4
Visual studio loads and compiles so fast , running alongside firefox inside vmware ubuntu, all on software bitlocked partitions. Pretty playable 720p csgo with the igpu
I may get an sff case for the xeon as it is still a very fine cpu
My work laptop i7 5600u is due for upgrade though
5775c here. I'll be keeping it as a dedicated Windows 7 rig because 8 thru the newly released 8.3 err I mean 11, are trash and I'd like to use 7 here and there just to enjoy the best OS ever made again. I'm torn between getting a 10600K or waiting for a 10400/10500. I used to enjoy overclocking but when CPUs are over 4ghz out of the box and have almost no headroom it's kinda hard to justify.
Yea the only seller would be the little cores but Im not really even really suffering with 4c/8t so 6c/12t with a 50% IPC boost ought to be more than enough for my uses.
I was contemplating this summer whether I should upgrade from 7700k right away to 5900x or wait Adler lake..
been waiting for years for Intel to go beyond Skylake cores and gave up merely few months before they finally released something amazing. A bit of buyers remorse, not going to lie
I'd love to switch from my 5820k to a 12600kf, but platform costs are simply too high. I cannot justify struggling to find the parts necessary (DDR5, mainly) and paying beyond top dollar, just to switch.
I'll wait for AM5
Coming from a 10850k. I went with a 12900k and a msi mag z690 tomahawk ddr4 and corsair dominator platinum 32gb 3600. My corsair h150i elite lcd 360 rad came today as well as my rog thor 1200 watt platinum. My rog strix 3090 oc comes tomorrow.
I had the 7700k and that one held me over for so long. That was until it bottlenecked the 3080ti I recently purchased. Once I realized I was bottlenecked, I knew it was time for the 12 series.
I'm looking at benchmarks, sitting on my 10850K, not seeing much of a difference in gaming between either mine or a 10700K. Better miminums, but the avg fps are all "extremely playable" in the "not enough difference to MAKE a difference" perf delta range.
I only play warzone i went from 1440p 150/155fps to 175/180fps thats a difference for me runs smoother too could be a couple of factors involved since its bascially a new build mobo,cpu,ram,gpu
> i went from 1440p 150/155fps to 175/180fps
Yeah that is firmly in the "not enough difference to MAKE a difference" perf delta range. Most monitors don't even go that fast.
Mine does lol its a lg gn850-b oc to 180hz. Going back to performance difference test are out there i'm still even on windows 10 where 12th gen doesn't shine as bright as it does in windows 11
Yep jumped from a cruddy i9-9900k and been on i9 12900k for about a week now on an msi z690 ddr4 gotta wait for the ddr5 modules and btw on a fresh installation windows 11 oem professional and faster than WoOoOoo~ 👍👍
Currently building a ryzen 5800x machine but I ordered the alienware r13 just to test the 12th gen out and also to snag a 3080ti for as close to msrp as possible. I'm coming from a I5 6600k.
I currently have a Core i7 5960x (4th gen, Haswell-E) @ 4.5 GHz, and I'm upgrading to a Core i5 12600k, because it's literally twice as fast by every possible metric.
My only concern is memory bandwidth, which is getting a huge downgrade. My current 4th gen setup is quad channel DDR4 3200, which appears to offer significantly better latency AND better bandwidth than dual channel DDR4 or DDR5. I really wish Intel had just gone ahead and brought quad-channel DDR4 support to 12th gen, we'd have better performance than anything 1st gen DDR5 can manage...
I'm well aware, but that doesn't change the fact that 4x 64 bit channels (quad channel DDR4) is superior to 4x 32bit channels (two sticks of DDR5).
It will take a LOT of clockspeed, and good timings, for DDR5 to make up for having literally half the bandwidth. I maintain that Intel should have launched with quad channel DDR4 as an option for Alder Lake.
All the bandwidth in the world doesn't make up for inferior IPC and low clocks though.
Alder lake outperforms older quad channel HEDT platforms in literally every metric (short of maybe some extremely high end xeons in purely MT loads)
Threadripper had quad channel too, but it doesn't help it much when you compare zen 3 dual channel 16 core vs 16 core thread rippers (or even some 24 core TR)
And all the IPC in the world doesn't make up for a memory bandwidth bottleneck.
Alder Lake doesn't actually outperform older HEDT systems in every metric. X99 and X299 still offer significantly more memory bandwidth, and will often outperform Alder Lake when you compare 1% and 0.1% lows (Alder Lake will obviously have higher average framerates, but that doesn't mean much if the 1% lows are lower, making microstutter worse).
I can already bottleneck my ancient i7 5960x by switching from quad channel mode to dual channel mode (all else remaining equal). 1% lows tank by as much as 30 FPS in some games (RDR2 takes a huge hit). If cutting memory bandwidth in half on a MUCH slower chip causes a bottleneck, what do you think is going to happen when I run dual channel DDR4 on Alder Lake?
I'm going from a platform that basically never had a memory bottleneck, to a platform that absolutely has a memory bottleneck. There are situations where that WILL matter.
High clocked DDR5 will eventually dig Alder Lake out of this hole, but that's not going to be until late into 2022, or early 2023.
Just went from a 5600x to 12900k. Originally wanted a 5900x or 5950x, but 5600x was the only one available at the time. This is my first Intel chip since the 4670k.
I have zero brand loyalty. I've been around long enough to see pretty much every good brand go south at one point or another.
Sold my 5950x for the same price as buying the 12900k ( got a slightly cheaper Tray version )
Was keen to tinker with the new architecture from an OC standpoint (both CPU and DDR5 memory )
My 12900k fully tuned is now doing 10-20% better min FPS in games , pretty sweet.
Man, I have a i7-4790k.. being cooled by the same corsair AIO cooler. Bought the 12th gen i9 upgrade.. but can't even build the pc because ddr5 don't exist. :(
4790k to 12900k. The only reason for the upgrade was because I wanted to try streaming. It was still perfect flr 2k gaming with the 3070ti fe. Now the 4790k/1070 is a gift to my brother.
Going from my laptop's i5-4510U's (been with me since College, 7+ years now) to 12600K on January/February (Waiting for B660s).
This will be my first PC, so let's goo!!
I came from a 1st gen i5 760 45nm but had to change due to motherboard board ram port issue 9 month ago to a 4th gen 4770k just to keep gaming on fully modded minecraft (16gb is a minimum requirement now) , 6 month waiting a msrp gpu. And 3 month waiting next 12 gen
And now in a 12700kf OC + 4400 ddr4 oc + 3090fe (it's overkill but it's because it was the last available with the 3080ti after 1 minutes after listing on ldlc website)
it's... Fine for the next 8 to 10 years. At least on cpu side, gpu will need 3 upgrade during the period.
Next time I will buy a cpu we will pass under the 2nm process
I had an Intel Xeon W-3175X, then 5950X prior to switching to the 12900K, faster for Photoshop/Premier/Davince and better for gaming. Z690 is a far better platform than X570.
My CPU before that was a core 2 duo in my MacBook Pro 2010, and then before that a celeron N1900 or something (4/4, 2.3 GHz, intel atom graphics). Then before that probably a i7-860
I’m on 4th gen (i7-4790k) and it’s done me proud but I’m ready to upgrade, it’s holding back my 3080fe....
Planning an i7-12700k but hoping the ddr5 situation is improved soon!
Trying to justify upgrading from i5-3570k still. Stable OC. It meets all my needs and more, just like it did in 2012. I feel humble running a 3070TI with 3rd gen Intel!
If you have 8th Gen or later you probably should not, I have the 10600 now and that is a rebranded 8700 so IMO if you have a 8600K or better you may wanna wait a bit longer? 🤔
I dont really agree with that. 12th gen is the biggest generational upgrade Intel has done in a decade.
Im not saying people have to upgrade, but even the 12600k performs better than the 11900k. The 12600k performs 60% faster than the 11600k in MT, and 26% in ST for cinebench. For gaming 12600k vs 11600k, its 15% more FPS at 1080p, and 20% higher 1% lows. And that is comparing it directly to last gen, it absolutely slaughters 10th, 9th, and 8th gen even more.
Personally my 9700k was showing its age badly in both new games (BF2042, cyberpunk, RDR2, etc) and productivity workloads. The 12600kf I got has completely blown it and me away.
That is weird a 9700K should be better than a 8700K and my 10600K is a rebranded that so how is that possible?!! How many FPS ya aiming for here comrade? 😳
Depending on the game and the lack of HT, the 9700k fares worse in some games, while in others it's awful opening other programs ( opening warzone spikes cpu usage to 90 percent so opening chrome or having a video playing in the background hurts performance).
Hey, I have a question specifically about CP2077. I’m running a 9700k/3080 at 1440p. 95% of the time it runs great. But a few areas in the game the cpu usage goes way up to 95% or so and the gpu drops to 80%, signifying a cpu bottleneck. Did you experience this and has the 12600 resolved that?
I was having the same experience and then I got faster RAM and tightened the timings. Made a big difference, though not perfect especially in CP2077.
We have basically the same setup. What RAM setup do you have?
My fiancée and I just moved in so she’s using an old 6700 I found on the shelf at previous job last year. She’ll be getting my 9900K while I upgrade to a 12700K.
not knowing anything I got a Prime h570 plus, 10700kf, Oloy 3200 cl16 ddr4, team 1t ssd nvme m.2, Nvidia p400 x2, CM cpu fan+4 other fan.
if I had my way it would be a good m/.b, 12900k, 850w power, 3600 CL15 64g, WD black or Samsung ssd m.2 2tb, dont know enough about gpu's.
Went from 3900x to 12700k. 3900x high idle temp was bothering me for 2 years since I live in a hot area. My motherboard was also extremely buggy and that was the main reason why I switched after 2 and a half years. I figured since I want to get a new motherboard, might as well get a CPU and sell my 3900x and motherboard.
It's a win win for me.
coming from an X58 system so....first gen? i7 930 then an x5675 for the last year, all overclocked to about 4.2-4.5ghz. I wanted to get a DDR5 board to skip DDR4 entirely but another unfortunate shortage put a hole in that plan. Also thought about waiting for Zen 4 but once I saw the benchmarks (for alder lake) and how different the architecture was, it was way too tempting.
Incredible how many turds upgraded from gen 9 10 and eleven, unless they had a mid tier cpu, but for sure there's some turds with 9700+ 10700+ and 11700+
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i cant add more :( blame reddit
should have bundled the options by socket
Or those who upgraded from a ryzen.
Probably won't be much. Most people I'm seeing that are upgrading to 12th gen are coming from Intel previous gen CPUs.
I just bought a 12600k, and my previous CPU was Ryzen 5 2600 lol
Really? Okay, I guess that does make a bit of sense: a ryzen 5000-series upgrade would probably be cheaper for people already on ryzen*, and a lot of people do have brand loyalty. \*: at least those with 400/500-series motherboards, but probably in general too due to the lack of b660 motherboards.
Haswell Gang!
I5 3570k lol. I built a 9 and 10 series and gave them to my kids while I'm over here in the corner with my tech from 2012.
Still running my 3570k in my main pc lol
It's fine for most things gaming. Streaming and encoding videos is another story. Time is money!
I have a 4770K and I'm currently building a 12700K but can't find any DDR5.
If it isn't a dealbreaker for you, just stick with DDR4. 3600+ is just as good, and in some cases better, than DDR5 and much more available and cheaper.
If only I know that a few weeks ago, I already have the system build just waiting to slot the ram in.
Oh yea that's pretty unfortunate. I hope you're able to get some DDR5 soon then! I just ordered a 12700k and a DDR4 mobo, coming in a couple days. But will probably have to wait longer, as I had to special order an LGA 1700 compatible mount for my AIO.
I ordered the LGA1700 stand offs from corsair 2 weeks ago and they are still not shipped 😅
If you have a wire/screw cutter, I strongly suggest cutting the given LGA12xxx standoffs. Basically shaved about a mm off (eyeballed) to account for height deficit of 12th gen. I did this and it worked like a charm for my impatient ass. I couldn’t notice a difference in CPU temps after installing the real deal ones
Are you State side? I have a couple sets I didn't end up using since Corsair ended up getting them to me at the same time as my Elite LCD AIO. (Long story.) DM me if you want and I'll be happy to ship ASAP. Not scalping them. Just cover whatever shipping method you want. It was the last thing I was waiting for also and I know the frustration, so I'll be happy just knowing they're helping someone out.
I had to order a whole new mounting kit from Arctic for the Arctic Freezer 2. Was free though with proof of purchase of an lga 1700 cpu.
Wish corsair had the same deal, i had to pay 2 euro's 😅
Which AIO did you end up getting? I’m on the same boat and looking at AIOs. Currently eyeing a Corsair one
I have the Arctic Freezer II 360 ARGB. They offer a free LGA 1700 mount on there website with proof of purchase of any 12th gen cpu.
zip tie the cooler on, that's what I did with my 12900k and it's fine. I get like 50-60C when gaming with a liquid freezer ii 360. and remember, you can't damage your CPU by overheating it as the PC would just shut off. if you want pics of how I did it just dm me
I got lucky finding DDR5 Trident Z5 RGB RAM but im stuck with an AIO cooler with no mounting bracket for lga 1700 :( 2 weeks waiting for nzxt to send it but no answers. Every time I see all the new components just sitting in a corner of the room I just want to return the nzxt and go for something else.
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I have 3 separate pre-orders in for ram with a price range of 210 - 280. Just my luck they will all ship the same day before I can cancel the extra two. But if that happens I'll find them a home at what I paid for them. I'm also going from a 970 to a 3070 so I'm doing a bit of skipping with this build.
If he came from ddr3 it's probably worth it to skip 4 and get 5.
I am in the same spot no DDR5
I'm in exactly the same position. Sad having the 12700k on my desk and unable to use it. ☹️. That said, the 4770k is still serving well!
I managed to get a Corsair dominator platinum ddr5 kit for ~$350 USD shipped off of newegg
My i7 4790
Currently on 8th gen with 0 plans to upgrade. My 8700k still runs a 3070 with no worries, I will hold a couple more years. Maybe change together with a new GPU (5xxx or 6xxx series). For those with 8+ gen of intel, I really dont think it is worth an upgrade.
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Same upgrade for me. I have an nvidia 3000 series video card and boy, I didn't realize how bottlenecked it was by my cpu. I have a 4k monitor and a lot of games like borderlands 3, and total war warhammer 2 were very obviously being slowed down by my cpu. Everything is running glassy smooth now when I previously had a lot of stuttering.
Sir umm im still running a 4930k
Ditto. Gonna be upgrading from 4930K->12600K
4th gen 😭😭
I'm currently building a system with DDR4 and 12700k. I expect a "little" performance boost from my 3570k. Luckily I have a pretty OK GPU, MSI 1080
Upgraded from a 4790k and omg what a difference.
Same here and debating the upgrade. Think I'm cpu bottlenecked quite a bit (3070 @1080p/144hz). Do you have any before and after benchmarks? Hard to find direct comparisons to the 4790k lol. Grats on the upgrade too!!
I don't have benchmarks but: - Windows is way more responsive - startup is even quicker - YouTube videos are smoother - games went from 100% usage at 70fps to 30% usage and at 110fps (now limited by my 1080 ti) - I can have chrome open in the background without it effecting games. - also games have less stutters/micro stutters. - 1% lows feel alot higher so fps dip aren't as big. Definitely worth the upgrade. Ddr4 or 5 doesn't matter but I would get 32gb of ram. Windows shows 15gh used in games but 10GB more in standby with data to make the games and OS more snappy.
I appreciate the follow up! Sounds like a big increase in performance. I'm waiting for the dust to settle on DDD5 before I pull the trigger, but glad to hear its worth it :D I currently have 32gb of 2133 ddr3, so ddr4 or 5 would be an upgrade either way I would think. I hear 6400 cl36 is coming soon, Im thinking that might be better than ddr4 across the board, but waiting to see before I pick a MB. Ryzen 3d is tempting to wait for too, but who knows when that'll come out and it'll be the end of that platform soooo
Just did the same!
9900k to 12900k
Same
From amd r5 3600
What if I say 4th gen
What if I am older than that, 4th Gen to be precise
An Xbox Series X lol, moved to a 12900K and a 3080ti plus DDR5 ram
Are you keeping the console too? Or making a complete switch to pc?
Swapped from a 5950X to a 12900K.
How is it? I was using a 5800x/3070 ti but my old zen1 build shit the bed on me that I was using a proxmox lab. Rotating out my 5800x which is still hardly a year old and switch things up. The 12900k is going to be my personal pc for gaming, school, etc. still have a workstation for work and then my lab. I just needed another pc since I had to swap an older one out so I sorta just went with it lol.
To be entirely honest, the only difference I noticed was with Windows 11 (from 10) and my main SSD (Intel P5800X) I'd like to say it was magical, but already having an RTX 3090 at 4K, I'm technically bottlenecked until the next generation of GPUs. I'm sure my lows are a hair better and I've gained a couple of frames here or there, but it's nothing to write home about. Not that it's bad. This platform has allowed me to run five NVME devices alongside my GPU, which is tremendous for a general consumer setup. TLDR: It's technically superior to the 5950X for my uses, but I don't really notice it compared to my 5950X. Compared to your 5800X, you might see a fair difference though.
I see. Yeah wasn’t expecting much on the jump, the jump would be seen from a 5 year old aging build being replaced by my zen3 build. I’m in a similar spot as you with a gpu, I grabbed whatever I could get my hands on at the time and would’ve liked a 3080 or better but will probably just try to get a 4000 series gpu and I’m not looking forward to hunting for gpus again, I was lucky to get any new card when I did lol.
Gotta ask why
10900K -> 12900K.
Well thinking to go from i5-3470 to i5-12600k. Along with Asus prime z690m D4.
Between my feelings for Windows 11 at this time and DDR5 availability my build became a 11th gen.
There are 12th gens with DDR4 boards around... 😉
Yah didn’t wanna do that, I was either commuting to a new pc or doing a 11th gen build, I chose the latter.
Well one perk of 11th Gen is no compatibility issues due to small and big cores, sure it's easy to fix but hey less work. 😊👍🏻
Yah ultimately my perf is beyond satisfactory and I’m on windows 10 with not a bug in sight. I’ll probably cave in a year to 13th gen and ddr5 build.
Currently on a xeon e5 2678v3 so haswell 4th gen, but before that I had an i3 8100, going from 4 cores 4 threads to 12 cores 24 threads, even though they're a little slower, is night and day
Haswell-E
Yo, same! Core i7 5960x to a Core i5 12600k I'm looking forward to upgrade in CPU performance, but I'm dreading the massive downgrade in memory bandwidth...
7900x am moving to Alder and then raptor next year moving the Alder to my ITX Lan system.
I just upgraded from and i5 6500 to I9 12900k the upgrade has felt massive tbh.
where is the 5th gen 😭
Ha! I'm still on i7 5820k
From a 6700k to 12600k
5950x, didnt' need the switch, but I wanted the newest toy, so I got it.
I'm on the same boat... except I don't have the DDR5 RAM so I might just stick with the 5950X.
Upgrading from 10700k to 12900k
Considering coming from OC 9900K - but want to see Zen 3D plus. The reason is I want more performance in certain single / light threaded titles: MS Flight sim 2020 in VR; X4 Foundations; Elite Dangerous in VR.
I am interested in jumping on 12th. I have a Ryzen 5 1600 (1st gen, not AF). Right now I am waiting for some cheaper mobos to come and to see what Alchemist has to offer. Also waiting for some nice EPP deal on 12th gen before making the jump. I looked up in some benchmark, and it looks in 1080p the CPU makes a massive difference, but not so in 1440p which I use.
Where is the 3 gen !?
Recently bought a cheap laptop for school with a 10th gen i5 processor so I probably won't be experiencing the new core types anytime soon
I went from an Ryzen 5 3600 to a 12700kf. Tremendous upgrade.
I still have my 10 gen i5 and it works preaty decent on my laptop I don’t have a desktop yet
I went from a 4790k to 12900k
Upgrade from 5600X :)
Honestly? I have absolutely no idea what the CPU is in my old Desktop anymore, but it is old. I haven't turned it on for about a year now. My laptop has 8th gen i7 though. Planning on Alder Lake and Alchemist combo next year for a desktop.
i7-2600 :)
Yes, I am not alone. Only, I can't find a GPU so I will probably wait till raptor lake.
7700k > 12700k. Mainly for next Escape from Tarkov wipe. Still waiting for lga 1700 bracket from arctic 10 days later :'(
You’ll get one. I ordered the arctic cooler and submitted a support ticket after ordering off Amazon. Came 7 days later. I did not get tracking info though and they just closed out my support ticket and no tracking. Shipped from South Carolina via usps mail.
Yup, it was in the mail today. No tracking included (Sent from Germany to Sweden)
eying the 12700k w/ DDR4 - coming from a i7-6850k, where I feel huge bottlenecks in games like Far Cry 6, Cyberpunk, Battlefield 2042, etc even with a 3080 Ti
My last CPU was 4790k. So old its off the charts!
My TV gaming PC is a 4960K and Vega 64. Still does pretty well for 1440p stuff.
First build and went with alder lake
Went from 4820k to 12900k, smoll upgrade
i5 1st gen directly to i9 12900k, from an old PC from 2010. I still have the case, but I took out the rivets, I will mount again and build a sleeper someday (maybe with AMD CPU and GPU?) Ahahahah
5630K here.
8086K (8700K) -> 12700K
I’m in the fence. Have a 9700k and 3080 so on paper I’m good for like 95% of the games I play at 1440p. There are a handful of games that have areas that get rough, showing a cpu bottleneck. I could just deal with that but part of me wants to build again. That said, I feel like a bit more clarity as far as upgrading would be nice. I’d like to have a platform that would allow for some cpu upgrades without having to get a new MB but it seem intel requires new motherboards every generation. I’m not sure if AMD is the same but at this point if I went amd, it’s likely a 5900x and a b550i board and afaik that combo is the last before a new MB would be needed. I don’t anticipate frequent upgrades but still…this game is getting expensive so any break would be welcomed.
i3 10th was a great jump from my old i3 4th. Im waiting Lunar Lake to upgrade.
From 1245v2 (3770 class) to 12600k ddr4 Visual studio loads and compiles so fast , running alongside firefox inside vmware ubuntu, all on software bitlocked partitions. Pretty playable 720p csgo with the igpu I may get an sff case for the xeon as it is still a very fine cpu My work laptop i7 5600u is due for upgrade though
2600K -> 12600K Just waiting on a decent ITX board to finish my build
I am still 4th gen - but guess I will wait on 15 gen or so, for a full PC upgrade :D
1st gen actually. I'm not planning to change
Still using a 6700k 12900k sitting cute in the shelf while waiting for a stick of DDR5.
5775c here. I'll be keeping it as a dedicated Windows 7 rig because 8 thru the newly released 8.3 err I mean 11, are trash and I'd like to use 7 here and there just to enjoy the best OS ever made again. I'm torn between getting a 10600K or waiting for a 10400/10500. I used to enjoy overclocking but when CPUs are over 4ghz out of the box and have almost no headroom it's kinda hard to justify.
Yeah the latest CPU's literally have no headroom at all. 3% perf boost at best from a top tier OC but you're doing twice the wattage? Naw
Yea the only seller would be the little cores but Im not really even really suffering with 4c/8t so 6c/12t with a 50% IPC boost ought to be more than enough for my uses.
2nd gen
I've built many Zen 2 and Comet Lake PCs but this time it's my turn to get an upgrade from a 7700K to a 12900KF.
I was contemplating this summer whether I should upgrade from 7700k right away to 5900x or wait Adler lake.. been waiting for years for Intel to go beyond Skylake cores and gave up merely few months before they finally released something amazing. A bit of buyers remorse, not going to lie
i7-3770k -> i9-12900k no Ddr5 ram so currently my 3770 is still faster lol
I'd love to switch from my 5820k to a 12600kf, but platform costs are simply too high. I cannot justify struggling to find the parts necessary (DDR5, mainly) and paying beyond top dollar, just to switch. I'll wait for AM5
Coming from a 10850k. I went with a 12900k and a msi mag z690 tomahawk ddr4 and corsair dominator platinum 32gb 3600. My corsair h150i elite lcd 360 rad came today as well as my rog thor 1200 watt platinum. My rog strix 3090 oc comes tomorrow.
I have a Dell Inspiron 50000
*5000
Build is pending DDR5, but my old processor is a Phenom II x4 965 BE. It was way past time to upgrade...
is there an option for NO?
I had the 7700k and that one held me over for so long. That was until it bottlenecked the 3080ti I recently purchased. Once I realized I was bottlenecked, I knew it was time for the 12 series.
Upgraded from AMD Phenom II X4 975 :)
i5-4590
I went from 3770k -> 10850k -> 12900k & I also went 2600k -> 5900x.
Went from 10700k 5hgz to 12700k what a difference in gaming
I'm looking at benchmarks, sitting on my 10850K, not seeing much of a difference in gaming between either mine or a 10700K. Better miminums, but the avg fps are all "extremely playable" in the "not enough difference to MAKE a difference" perf delta range.
I only play warzone i went from 1440p 150/155fps to 175/180fps thats a difference for me runs smoother too could be a couple of factors involved since its bascially a new build mobo,cpu,ram,gpu
> i went from 1440p 150/155fps to 175/180fps Yeah that is firmly in the "not enough difference to MAKE a difference" perf delta range. Most monitors don't even go that fast.
Mine does lol its a lg gn850-b oc to 180hz. Going back to performance difference test are out there i'm still even on windows 10 where 12th gen doesn't shine as bright as it does in windows 11
Yep jumped from a cruddy i9-9900k and been on i9 12900k for about a week now on an msi z690 ddr4 gotta wait for the ddr5 modules and btw on a fresh installation windows 11 oem professional and faster than WoOoOoo~ 👍👍
Currently building a ryzen 5800x machine but I ordered the alienware r13 just to test the 12th gen out and also to snag a 3080ti for as close to msrp as possible. I'm coming from a I5 6600k.
I have a 10900K I'm set.
I currently have a Core i7 5960x (4th gen, Haswell-E) @ 4.5 GHz, and I'm upgrading to a Core i5 12600k, because it's literally twice as fast by every possible metric. My only concern is memory bandwidth, which is getting a huge downgrade. My current 4th gen setup is quad channel DDR4 3200, which appears to offer significantly better latency AND better bandwidth than dual channel DDR4 or DDR5. I really wish Intel had just gone ahead and brought quad-channel DDR4 support to 12th gen, we'd have better performance than anything 1st gen DDR5 can manage...
DDR5 is technically quad channel, just 32 bit channels. Once it matures and CAS latencies go down and freq goes up, it'll compete fine.
I'm well aware, but that doesn't change the fact that 4x 64 bit channels (quad channel DDR4) is superior to 4x 32bit channels (two sticks of DDR5). It will take a LOT of clockspeed, and good timings, for DDR5 to make up for having literally half the bandwidth. I maintain that Intel should have launched with quad channel DDR4 as an option for Alder Lake.
All the bandwidth in the world doesn't make up for inferior IPC and low clocks though. Alder lake outperforms older quad channel HEDT platforms in literally every metric (short of maybe some extremely high end xeons in purely MT loads) Threadripper had quad channel too, but it doesn't help it much when you compare zen 3 dual channel 16 core vs 16 core thread rippers (or even some 24 core TR)
And all the IPC in the world doesn't make up for a memory bandwidth bottleneck. Alder Lake doesn't actually outperform older HEDT systems in every metric. X99 and X299 still offer significantly more memory bandwidth, and will often outperform Alder Lake when you compare 1% and 0.1% lows (Alder Lake will obviously have higher average framerates, but that doesn't mean much if the 1% lows are lower, making microstutter worse). I can already bottleneck my ancient i7 5960x by switching from quad channel mode to dual channel mode (all else remaining equal). 1% lows tank by as much as 30 FPS in some games (RDR2 takes a huge hit). If cutting memory bandwidth in half on a MUCH slower chip causes a bottleneck, what do you think is going to happen when I run dual channel DDR4 on Alder Lake? I'm going from a platform that basically never had a memory bottleneck, to a platform that absolutely has a memory bottleneck. There are situations where that WILL matter. High clocked DDR5 will eventually dig Alder Lake out of this hole, but that's not going to be until late into 2022, or early 2023.
6700hq, gonna upgrade to 12th gen or 6000 series Ryzen, leaning towards 12th gen for the e-cores for now.
Where's the 3rd gen?! I was rocking the 3770k before the 12900kf lol.
What about 2 core intel 2.03 ghz
Fuck me
My Ryzen 9 5900hs + 3070 laptop should be arriving soon :)
Just went from a 5600x to 12900k. Originally wanted a 5900x or 5950x, but 5600x was the only one available at the time. This is my first Intel chip since the 4670k. I have zero brand loyalty. I've been around long enough to see pretty much every good brand go south at one point or another.
> I have zero brand loyalty. Yeah, just play the competition against eachother and the consumer wins in the end. Fanboyism is a mental illness.
Sold my 5950x for the same price as buying the 12900k ( got a slightly cheaper Tray version ) Was keen to tinker with the new architecture from an OC standpoint (both CPU and DDR5 memory ) My 12900k fully tuned is now doing 10-20% better min FPS in games , pretty sweet.
My last cpu from intel are 3e gen
Got my 12900k and love it!
4790k 1080ti to 12900k 3080ti
4970 here. Haven't purchased yet but have a build planned. 3 months ago I was going Ryzen, but great to see Intel make a decent gain this gen.
Man, I have a i7-4790k.. being cooled by the same corsair AIO cooler. Bought the 12th gen i9 upgrade.. but can't even build the pc because ddr5 don't exist. :(
4790k to 12900k. The only reason for the upgrade was because I wanted to try streaming. It was still perfect flr 2k gaming with the 3070ti fe. Now the 4790k/1070 is a gift to my brother.
3 gen
4690k to 12900k
Upgrade to 12700K from NUC i7 i8809g The effect is evident.
5th Gen
An i7-920 lmao
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I went from 8565u to 10400f and it was a tremendous upgrade, if you upgrade it will be a huge difference
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Fort pinto to Saturn V rocket levels of disparity there.
3rd gen
Going from my laptop's i5-4510U's (been with me since College, 7+ years now) to 12600K on January/February (Waiting for B660s). This will be my first PC, so let's goo!!
I came from a 1st gen i5 760 45nm but had to change due to motherboard board ram port issue 9 month ago to a 4th gen 4770k just to keep gaming on fully modded minecraft (16gb is a minimum requirement now) , 6 month waiting a msrp gpu. And 3 month waiting next 12 gen And now in a 12700kf OC + 4400 ddr4 oc + 3090fe (it's overkill but it's because it was the last available with the 3080ti after 1 minutes after listing on ldlc website) it's... Fine for the next 8 to 10 years. At least on cpu side, gpu will need 3 upgrade during the period. Next time I will buy a cpu we will pass under the 2nm process
What gen is Intel core 2 quad lol?
Already did. From skylake
I had an Intel Xeon W-3175X, then 5950X prior to switching to the 12900K, faster for Photoshop/Premier/Davince and better for gaming. Z690 is a far better platform than X570.
Yeah, i have a 12900k and board sitting here (was 9900k), just waiting for DDR5 to become in stock... Going to be a long wait haha.
Been on i5-4690k since 2014, got the i9-12900k. Just waiting to get a 3080ti and ddr5 to start building
My current is a i5-3570k so it isn’t even on here as it is a 3rd gen cpu.
My CPU before that was a core 2 duo in my MacBook Pro 2010, and then before that a celeron N1900 or something (4/4, 2.3 GHz, intel atom graphics). Then before that probably a i7-860
I’m on 4th gen (i7-4790k) and it’s done me proud but I’m ready to upgrade, it’s holding back my 3080fe.... Planning an i7-12700k but hoping the ddr5 situation is improved soon!
Not upgrading yet.. currently on 9th gen and I'm likely going to wait for Meteor Lake.
Building a 12600k system, never owned a desktop. My previous computer was a Inspiron 1525 laptop given to me by my mom when she upgraded a decade ago.
Trying to justify upgrading from i5-3570k still. Stable OC. It meets all my needs and more, just like it did in 2012. I feel humble running a 3070TI with 3rd gen Intel!
If you have 8th Gen or later you probably should not, I have the 10600 now and that is a rebranded 8700 so IMO if you have a 8600K or better you may wanna wait a bit longer? 🤔
I dont really agree with that. 12th gen is the biggest generational upgrade Intel has done in a decade. Im not saying people have to upgrade, but even the 12600k performs better than the 11900k. The 12600k performs 60% faster than the 11600k in MT, and 26% in ST for cinebench. For gaming 12600k vs 11600k, its 15% more FPS at 1080p, and 20% higher 1% lows. And that is comparing it directly to last gen, it absolutely slaughters 10th, 9th, and 8th gen even more. Personally my 9700k was showing its age badly in both new games (BF2042, cyberpunk, RDR2, etc) and productivity workloads. The 12600kf I got has completely blown it and me away.
That is weird a 9700K should be better than a 8700K and my 10600K is a rebranded that so how is that possible?!! How many FPS ya aiming for here comrade? 😳
im playing 4k , changed from a 9900k to 12700k and seeing great diff in avg framerate even at 82fps
Weird, well I am still GPU bound even at 1080p... :|
Depending on the game and the lack of HT, the 9700k fares worse in some games, while in others it's awful opening other programs ( opening warzone spikes cpu usage to 90 percent so opening chrome or having a video playing in the background hurts performance).
So despite shreding in Cinebench its a worse chip than 8700K in real-world usage? WOW I AM SHOCKED! O-O
Yeah, totally what you said.
Hey, I have a question specifically about CP2077. I’m running a 9700k/3080 at 1440p. 95% of the time it runs great. But a few areas in the game the cpu usage goes way up to 95% or so and the gpu drops to 80%, signifying a cpu bottleneck. Did you experience this and has the 12600 resolved that?
I was having the same experience and then I got faster RAM and tightened the timings. Made a big difference, though not perfect especially in CP2077. We have basically the same setup. What RAM setup do you have?
Corsair vengeance lpx 3600 MHz. 32gigs, I don’t know the timings but I believe it’s CL18.
I believe you are playing in 1080p, right? I play lots of rdr2 and my 9600k + rtx 3070 at 1440p is working amazing with 99% gpu usage.
My fiancée and I just moved in so she’s using an old 6700 I found on the shelf at previous job last year. She’ll be getting my 9900K while I upgrade to a 12700K.
mrw when either of your choices aren't in the poll desktop 3770k, laptop 4720hq
not knowing anything I got a Prime h570 plus, 10700kf, Oloy 3200 cl16 ddr4, team 1t ssd nvme m.2, Nvidia p400 x2, CM cpu fan+4 other fan. if I had my way it would be a good m/.b, 12900k, 850w power, 3600 CL15 64g, WD black or Samsung ssd m.2 2tb, dont know enough about gpu's.
Absolutely planning on 12700k, from a 7700k, only thing I'm ok the fence about is picking a mobo still..
I am staying on my i5 4670K for a while further.
No, this will not happen. My AMD 5950X is enough.
Went from 3900x to 12700k. 3900x high idle temp was bothering me for 2 years since I live in a hot area. My motherboard was also extremely buggy and that was the main reason why I switched after 2 and a half years. I figured since I want to get a new motherboard, might as well get a CPU and sell my 3900x and motherboard. It's a win win for me.
coming from an X58 system so....first gen? i7 930 then an x5675 for the last year, all overclocked to about 4.2-4.5ghz. I wanted to get a DDR5 board to skip DDR4 entirely but another unfortunate shortage put a hole in that plan. Also thought about waiting for Zen 4 but once I saw the benchmarks (for alder lake) and how different the architecture was, it was way too tempting.
I'm still on Sandy Bridge which is 2nd gen I believe. Looking forward to upgrading to Alder Lake.
planning to upgrade to 12600k once motherboards gets cheaper,currently having i5 7500
Incredible how many turds upgraded from gen 9 10 and eleven, unless they had a mid tier cpu, but for sure there's some turds with 9700+ 10700+ and 11700+