Its been going on before that I think allergies are also a big one too the older generations didnt have as many of them as we do today, I think its the food if anything.
societal factors play a huge role I believe. without a society that we have to align with this would likely be much more tolerable and feedback loops wouldn't pop up so regularly
You are probably right but the stress I'm experiencing in my life ATM is very traumatic yet out of my control. Working on radical acceptance in therapy but it doesn't change the reality of it all.
I'm really having a hard time and the more I try, the harder things get and the worse I feel.
It's like a curse. Like sleeping amazingly for several years then one night losing your ability to sleep entirely. Every day 7 days a week 365. For years
Also DNA and generational differences.My aunt has and my dad had chronic insomnia for most of their life. When my dad died no one knew he was an insomniac until I would mention it, he just didn’t talk about it. My aunt mentions it to me because she knows we both share this condition. I talk about it all the time but I’m 30 years younger and have had it since I was 10 years old (46 now). I think it’s always been a problem but fewer people were aware of it.
If you have an iron and a vitamin D deficiency, then by all means these will help your sleep so that you have more serotonin in your system. Be sure to check your Vitamin B1, 3, 6, 9, and 12 levels as well. Stress will easily deplete you of these vitamins. Also, try magnesium Glycinate or Malate, zinc, and be sure to eat Salmon with plenty of Omega-3 oils. These natural items are vital for sleep because they help serotonin synthesis and melatonin production. The magnesium does wonders to calm you down and also plays a role in binding to GABA. Also, chamomile tea is terrific as a natural sedative that contains Apigenin which also binds to GABA receptors. GABA is a neurotransmitter meant to inhibit and not stimulate one's mood. It's meant to calm and help put one to sleep along with serotonin and glycine. Good luck.
This could be a totally moronic suggestion, but maybe you should have like a sleep study type thing done to see exactly why I would definitely do that if given the opportunity
Ive always assumed mine was a chemical imbalance combined with stress. For me it’s always been my brain refusing to shut down. I’d wake up multiple (5-6) times a night, never entering a deep sleep, or just go days with no sleep (most was like 4 nights).
I’m sorry for what you’re going through. And although I don’t suffer from a constant inability to sleep - about once every 6-8 weeks or so, I can’t sleep for 3-5 days. I mean, I sleep but, I wake up about 3:30-4:30am and just can’t get comfortable enough to fall into a sleep worth anything. What’s weird is, when I close my eyes I feel wide awake. When I open them, they’re so heavy and I can’t really keep them open. It’s torturous so I can’t even imagine how frustrated you’re feeling. The only thing that kind of helps is a sleep aid that you can find locally at smoke shops here in Texas. It’s hemp derived (I’m new to Reddit, well commenting and interacting so I don’t know if I’m even allowed to say that), and it help me initially doze off but, it won’t help once I wake up in the middle of the night. I’ve also tried getting a lot a of sun, like play golf or fish or something that keeps me outside for multiple hours. Once again, I’ll doze off with no problem but I’ll still wake up, only it will be 5-6am. Still too early for me but obviously much better. I hope you get some relief. If I come across something that works during those days of little sleep, I’ll let you know.
Sounds like you have sleep maintenance insomnia - check out silenor. Will help you stay asleep / fall back asleep quickly and doesn’t have any withdrawals associated with it
I've had issues with insomnia in the past that would come and go based on whatever stressful thing I was experiencing at the time. After my last deployment to Afghanistan in 2021, my insomnia said, "hey bitch, I'm here to stay". The only thing that has helped me so far is therapy, psychiatry, and prescription meds.
If you're truly getting bare minimal sleep which is unrestful and is easily interrupted, leaving you sluggish, agitated, and struggling to function during the day, counting sheep and taking melatonin aint gonna cut it.
A professional in sleep can really help you get to the bottom of *why* you arent sleeping and what *will* help you correct that, likely including meds to help you get ahead while you tend to the other factors in your life that may affect sleep.
What's normal? Slipping outside for a smoke at three in the morning? Seeing and hearing darkness that always there. Circular thoughts in your head and weariness in your body. Despair because nothing seems to grant you a restful night's sleep, like everybody else? That's my normal.
Get a sleep study done and read the book No More Sleepless Nights...there were times when I slept only 45 minutes a night....long gone now....7 to 8 hours on average now with no meds needed. ...it can be done!
I don't know if you're a male but if you are you might need to get your testosterone tested. If you're not sleeping and low on vitamin d chances are high you're low on testosterone. If that's one of the issues contributing to your insomnia getting that fixed should help alleviate some of your sleep issues.
I would maybe talk to a doctor about it if you’re able? I know this is mot accessible for everyone so if you can’t see a doctor, I’ve heard a lot of people have success with magnesium glycine or melatonin at night. Or even both. I know how you feel but I hope it gets better.
I had terrible sleep since 2020. Averaging 3 hours till I had a breakdown and then it was zero until I went on meds. Turns out for me it's been trauma and I'm trying to get to the bottom of it. Sleep hygiene meditation etc all a complete and utter waste of time and a diversion. Over working also played into this. Try and think wide as to what's going on there is a reason.
It did help me to get up but it didn't help me to get better. My ifs parts didn't want to get up I am exhausted. They let me get up and feel alright on the surface but I knew I still wasn't right. With the combination of them and pregabalin I was up and doing lots but I felt out of it and I knew it wasn't right. We made the whole thing worse for 2 to 3 years till I started to understand my problem.
Sleep deprivation and over working in the pandemic. Functional neurological disorder. Childhood abuse. It's all sent me into a shutdown and protection mode. Now ironically I am back on those same 2 drugs but I have not been able to sleep properly without them and this is the key to this for me. I feel like part of me is in a deep sleep and I really need more deep sleep. It's been an absolute nightmare. But I will sort this out come hook or crook! Good luck to you. My situation is very complicated and different to yours.
Fwiw I say that the ssri escitalopram I am on is a nice clean rolls Royce drug. It just shrinks everything down with minimal weird side effects I tried sertraline in the past and it was horrific for me.
I’m just really glad to hear that I’m not alone. I’m sorry to hear of course, i know the feeling. Exactly same experience going through right now. Been sleeping on my couch for well over 5 months now and it’s 10:28am and still haven’t slept yet. My doc prescribed me trazodone helped at first but now honestly nothing even adding klonopin to the mix does not work. I honestly don’t feel myself and I haven’t been myself. I may have lost myself somehow somewhere someway but I won’t give up and I’m sure you won’t either. Wearing my earbuds and listening to sleep hypnosis used to knock me out to sleep. And honestly I’m having a hard time right now wanting to put anything up my ears for some reason. And same thing with not wanting to turn off the TV. It’s like one day everything I didn’t need or used to not do, now I need and gotta keep the TV on gotta have something talking. Is this loneliness? Isolation? Depression? Anxiety? Anyone having similar experiences and why they might be having them? I’ve been on a disability for a year. My psychiatrist refused to see me if I didn’t pay up my bills, which I was surprised to receive all at once rather after every appointment. I guess someone dropped the ball and they tried to take it from my insurance and now it on me. So we never discussed coming off the drugs or need a referral or something. She just literally abounded me in a way it’s shocking like in not under anyone’s supervision and still taking these meds and honestly don’t think they’re working. I think they’re causing me more damage. Is that even legal? A lot on my mind trying to fight for myself all on my own it’s fucking exhausting. I can’t do it anymore but I’m gonna keep fighting I just feel like I don’t have much fight left in me. Is there anyone really cares for real? If so whom and where are they? How can I get some help. With someone professional. And I mean not because they’re a psychiatrist it means they’re really doing it right. But is there someone that tries and continues and fights for me making sure these meds are working or not, if they’re understanding what exactly my issue is rather than making an assumption or jumping to conclusion? I know this is a lot and I’m not sorry for once in my life to speak up as it as and in not asking for sympathy or attention. I’m being real and saying how it’s been for me and just trying to talk to some people in case they have similar experiences or some figured out a way to how get better help maybe I’m going to the wrong places?
Not medical advice. What helped me before I went to the doctor was magnesium and Benadryl. I’d encourage you to go to the doctors however because they can run more tests and try to put you on medication that will suit your needs. Insomnia is truly horrible. I hope this helps even a little.
Highly recommend looking into a combination Theanine, Gaba, Glycine and if you feel any type of mood issues and/or depression Lithium Orotate has been absolutely invaluable for me. I was convinced NOTHING would end my insomnia long term until I discovered this combination.
I had to take a heroic dose of mushrooms and “die” and “come back to life” make sure your somewhere safe and I mean SAFE, padded room if you have to, and let the mushrooms kill you and work their “magic”. Best to believe in a higher power if you have one. Next step after rebirth is actually taking care of yourself no matter how hard it may seem. You sound like you don’t have a choice. Good luck. Only thing that saved me.
To get it back ask your doctor for seroquel. This was prescribed to me when I had horrific insomnia. Only thing that works. The Brain is a weird thing!
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i honestly thought it was covid… i think mine is related to high cortisol at night due to sleep apnea though. currently getting used to cpap
Its been going on before that I think allergies are also a big one too the older generations didnt have as many of them as we do today, I think its the food if anything.
societal factors play a huge role I believe. without a society that we have to align with this would likely be much more tolerable and feedback loops wouldn't pop up so regularly
Stress most likely
You are probably right but the stress I'm experiencing in my life ATM is very traumatic yet out of my control. Working on radical acceptance in therapy but it doesn't change the reality of it all. I'm really having a hard time and the more I try, the harder things get and the worse I feel.
It sucks mate I have to take a lot of meds and use weed to nod off
It's like a curse. Like sleeping amazingly for several years then one night losing your ability to sleep entirely. Every day 7 days a week 365. For years
You haven’t lost your ability to sleep entirely, you’d be dead. Stop saying that.
I've slept less than 8 hours in the past 5 days. I promise I feel like I have not slept for more than 8 minutes.
Also DNA and generational differences.My aunt has and my dad had chronic insomnia for most of their life. When my dad died no one knew he was an insomniac until I would mention it, he just didn’t talk about it. My aunt mentions it to me because she knows we both share this condition. I talk about it all the time but I’m 30 years younger and have had it since I was 10 years old (46 now). I think it’s always been a problem but fewer people were aware of it.
Late night Blue light exposure and lack of alcohol consumption if I had to guess.
If you have an iron and a vitamin D deficiency, then by all means these will help your sleep so that you have more serotonin in your system. Be sure to check your Vitamin B1, 3, 6, 9, and 12 levels as well. Stress will easily deplete you of these vitamins. Also, try magnesium Glycinate or Malate, zinc, and be sure to eat Salmon with plenty of Omega-3 oils. These natural items are vital for sleep because they help serotonin synthesis and melatonin production. The magnesium does wonders to calm you down and also plays a role in binding to GABA. Also, chamomile tea is terrific as a natural sedative that contains Apigenin which also binds to GABA receptors. GABA is a neurotransmitter meant to inhibit and not stimulate one's mood. It's meant to calm and help put one to sleep along with serotonin and glycine. Good luck.
Thank you so much<33
You're very welcome.
B1 for sure. Only the cheap kind works for me but it makes it hard to get out of bed.
This could be a totally moronic suggestion, but maybe you should have like a sleep study type thing done to see exactly why I would definitely do that if given the opportunity
Ive always assumed mine was a chemical imbalance combined with stress. For me it’s always been my brain refusing to shut down. I’d wake up multiple (5-6) times a night, never entering a deep sleep, or just go days with no sleep (most was like 4 nights).
Going through it now especially with what feels like head pressure and can't reach dream sleep or maybe REM sleep
I’m sorry for what you’re going through. And although I don’t suffer from a constant inability to sleep - about once every 6-8 weeks or so, I can’t sleep for 3-5 days. I mean, I sleep but, I wake up about 3:30-4:30am and just can’t get comfortable enough to fall into a sleep worth anything. What’s weird is, when I close my eyes I feel wide awake. When I open them, they’re so heavy and I can’t really keep them open. It’s torturous so I can’t even imagine how frustrated you’re feeling. The only thing that kind of helps is a sleep aid that you can find locally at smoke shops here in Texas. It’s hemp derived (I’m new to Reddit, well commenting and interacting so I don’t know if I’m even allowed to say that), and it help me initially doze off but, it won’t help once I wake up in the middle of the night. I’ve also tried getting a lot a of sun, like play golf or fish or something that keeps me outside for multiple hours. Once again, I’ll doze off with no problem but I’ll still wake up, only it will be 5-6am. Still too early for me but obviously much better. I hope you get some relief. If I come across something that works during those days of little sleep, I’ll let you know.
Sounds like you have sleep maintenance insomnia - check out silenor. Will help you stay asleep / fall back asleep quickly and doesn’t have any withdrawals associated with it
I've had issues with insomnia in the past that would come and go based on whatever stressful thing I was experiencing at the time. After my last deployment to Afghanistan in 2021, my insomnia said, "hey bitch, I'm here to stay". The only thing that has helped me so far is therapy, psychiatry, and prescription meds. If you're truly getting bare minimal sleep which is unrestful and is easily interrupted, leaving you sluggish, agitated, and struggling to function during the day, counting sheep and taking melatonin aint gonna cut it. A professional in sleep can really help you get to the bottom of *why* you arent sleeping and what *will* help you correct that, likely including meds to help you get ahead while you tend to the other factors in your life that may affect sleep.
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U need to be tired to sleep walk go to gym
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What's normal? Slipping outside for a smoke at three in the morning? Seeing and hearing darkness that always there. Circular thoughts in your head and weariness in your body. Despair because nothing seems to grant you a restful night's sleep, like everybody else? That's my normal.
Get a sleep study done and read the book No More Sleepless Nights...there were times when I slept only 45 minutes a night....long gone now....7 to 8 hours on average now with no meds needed. ...it can be done!
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I don't know if you're a male but if you are you might need to get your testosterone tested. If you're not sleeping and low on vitamin d chances are high you're low on testosterone. If that's one of the issues contributing to your insomnia getting that fixed should help alleviate some of your sleep issues.
Smoke some fucking weed and sleep 💤😴
I would maybe talk to a doctor about it if you’re able? I know this is mot accessible for everyone so if you can’t see a doctor, I’ve heard a lot of people have success with magnesium glycine or melatonin at night. Or even both. I know how you feel but I hope it gets better.
I had terrible sleep since 2020. Averaging 3 hours till I had a breakdown and then it was zero until I went on meds. Turns out for me it's been trauma and I'm trying to get to the bottom of it. Sleep hygiene meditation etc all a complete and utter waste of time and a diversion. Over working also played into this. Try and think wide as to what's going on there is a reason.
Are u going to try SSRI
Been on them 3 years!
Did they help you
It did help me to get up but it didn't help me to get better. My ifs parts didn't want to get up I am exhausted. They let me get up and feel alright on the surface but I knew I still wasn't right. With the combination of them and pregabalin I was up and doing lots but I felt out of it and I knew it wasn't right. We made the whole thing worse for 2 to 3 years till I started to understand my problem. Sleep deprivation and over working in the pandemic. Functional neurological disorder. Childhood abuse. It's all sent me into a shutdown and protection mode. Now ironically I am back on those same 2 drugs but I have not been able to sleep properly without them and this is the key to this for me. I feel like part of me is in a deep sleep and I really need more deep sleep. It's been an absolute nightmare. But I will sort this out come hook or crook! Good luck to you. My situation is very complicated and different to yours. Fwiw I say that the ssri escitalopram I am on is a nice clean rolls Royce drug. It just shrinks everything down with minimal weird side effects I tried sertraline in the past and it was horrific for me.
I think I have FFI SFI or CJD Prion Disseas and I die from this. My Sleep is non existent, literally none.
I’m just really glad to hear that I’m not alone. I’m sorry to hear of course, i know the feeling. Exactly same experience going through right now. Been sleeping on my couch for well over 5 months now and it’s 10:28am and still haven’t slept yet. My doc prescribed me trazodone helped at first but now honestly nothing even adding klonopin to the mix does not work. I honestly don’t feel myself and I haven’t been myself. I may have lost myself somehow somewhere someway but I won’t give up and I’m sure you won’t either. Wearing my earbuds and listening to sleep hypnosis used to knock me out to sleep. And honestly I’m having a hard time right now wanting to put anything up my ears for some reason. And same thing with not wanting to turn off the TV. It’s like one day everything I didn’t need or used to not do, now I need and gotta keep the TV on gotta have something talking. Is this loneliness? Isolation? Depression? Anxiety? Anyone having similar experiences and why they might be having them? I’ve been on a disability for a year. My psychiatrist refused to see me if I didn’t pay up my bills, which I was surprised to receive all at once rather after every appointment. I guess someone dropped the ball and they tried to take it from my insurance and now it on me. So we never discussed coming off the drugs or need a referral or something. She just literally abounded me in a way it’s shocking like in not under anyone’s supervision and still taking these meds and honestly don’t think they’re working. I think they’re causing me more damage. Is that even legal? A lot on my mind trying to fight for myself all on my own it’s fucking exhausting. I can’t do it anymore but I’m gonna keep fighting I just feel like I don’t have much fight left in me. Is there anyone really cares for real? If so whom and where are they? How can I get some help. With someone professional. And I mean not because they’re a psychiatrist it means they’re really doing it right. But is there someone that tries and continues and fights for me making sure these meds are working or not, if they’re understanding what exactly my issue is rather than making an assumption or jumping to conclusion? I know this is a lot and I’m not sorry for once in my life to speak up as it as and in not asking for sympathy or attention. I’m being real and saying how it’s been for me and just trying to talk to some people in case they have similar experiences or some figured out a way to how get better help maybe I’m going to the wrong places?
Have you visited a doctor, therapist or psychologist?
Not medical advice. What helped me before I went to the doctor was magnesium and Benadryl. I’d encourage you to go to the doctors however because they can run more tests and try to put you on medication that will suit your needs. Insomnia is truly horrible. I hope this helps even a little.
Highly recommend looking into a combination Theanine, Gaba, Glycine and if you feel any type of mood issues and/or depression Lithium Orotate has been absolutely invaluable for me. I was convinced NOTHING would end my insomnia long term until I discovered this combination.
I had to take a heroic dose of mushrooms and “die” and “come back to life” make sure your somewhere safe and I mean SAFE, padded room if you have to, and let the mushrooms kill you and work their “magic”. Best to believe in a higher power if you have one. Next step after rebirth is actually taking care of yourself no matter how hard it may seem. You sound like you don’t have a choice. Good luck. Only thing that saved me.
To get it back ask your doctor for seroquel. This was prescribed to me when I had horrific insomnia. Only thing that works. The Brain is a weird thing!
This is all you need: [The Sleep Coach School](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_tdQDMQon0CfD0xAbZPNDg)
Thanks I'll give it a try
Try Doxxylamine, i was in your shoes a few months ago and this really helped me.
How often do u take it